Have a 23’ S1000XR Mpackage w/extended warranty and just Brentune 2+ and 1 year & 6k miles of ownership absolutely love the bike, the tuning was done at the dealership and the benefits are well worth it!
I understand the worries about flashing. I did flash my vstar also , actually before the warranty was up. It made a great difference as I was going to sell it. I think you have to figure out if your happy with the bike as is, and how much happier would having the changes make you. That takes time and digging research, at least that way the decision will be the one your most happy living with.
I have the same bike just over 3000 miles on it and have had the same stalling issue. It has gone away so far. Temperature is climbing fast here in south Tx hope it doesn't come back. I will call my local dealer for any possible updates to the ECM. Love the channel keep up the good work.
Really appreciate the comment and support. Definitely keep me posted as to your situation. I am hoping after 5,500 miles it is in my rearview but if it resurfaces I will be working closely with BMW to get it straight and will share what I find out.
Hi mate, Just a little update since our last talk: it 's getting hotter here in France, and last time I took my bike for a trip the stalling issue were back (it was 79°F outside). So, yes: I also believe that is a mapping issue. My dealership has contacted BMW which is gonna send a kind of "black-box" to put on my bike: it will record all data when I use the bike to find out where does the issue come from. I'll tell you if they find anything :) Have a good day
Thanks for posting. I have a 2023 S1000XR. No issues with stalling. This tuning / flashing sounds great, but like you, I don’t want any issues voiding my warranty. The power on this bike is just fine for me. My previous bikes included the S1000RR and the R1200RS.
@@JulioVillavicencio-ru2sn Yeah, I always had inline four bikes including my S1000RR before the XR so I am not sure if the boxer engine would do it for me...
My 21 S1000RR stalled twice today in 80F Ohio weather here. Have a full exhaust/sprint air filter/stage 2 Brentune flash. At stops going into first gear and pulling the clutch in and stalls. Have 750 miles on the bike and this is the first time it’s ever stalled on me.
It is very tempting but I also went for extended warranty. The stage 1 sounds great but..... It's awesome that you have such a good dialogue with your dealer. One of the best mods available! Also, why only 480p??!
I would do mine in a second if I didn't have the warranty to think about. So...about 480p...My videos are currently shot in 1080 but I need to do some work on settings. I know YT compresses the crap out of videos but I am not satisfied with all the blur/pixelization I see. Revzilla did a great article on the settings they use for Daily Rider. My issue with shooting at such high quality is my cheap laptop and the time it will take to edit/upload. I am going to play around a bit in the coming weeks/months to work on making some improvements to find the best quality that still yields a reasonable amount of time on editing/uploading. I know when I shot in 2.7k the time was significant. I think I might give 4k a try though and see how long it takes just for giggles and see what the end result looks like. I really want to make some improvements in this area.
I get my new s1000xr te m sport in a week and will get it flashed by bren when the 1st service has been completed. If you buy the bren handheld, it will store the original factory settings and you can simply restore these just before any visit to the bmw dealer .Then when you get it back re-install the bran flash from the handheld. Also my gen 1 XR has covered 30000 miles without any issues or engine warranty problems so maybe this is a factor for you whether to get the flash done. Also on Cubans website , 3 years ago he had stage 1 and 2 bren on his gen 1 xr and rings the hell out of the bike all of the time and no problems with the engine. Life’s too short to worry about something that might not happen
Yeah...You are like that little devil on my left shoulder, hahaha. I don't disagree with anything you have stated...I think I am playing this one too conservatively but based on my convo with my dealer will just wait for the time being and probably wish later on I did it sooner!
I have a 2016 S1000XR well out of warranty, I really don't go to BMW for service since they charge INSANE prices to do simple work. I do most everything myself. I just ordered the tune from Brentune, my bike is difficult to ride below 20 mph and I can really tell how damped the throttle is in the first few gears. I really just want it uncorked. Plus better fueling sounds great and can't hurt.
If the stalling resurfaces and BMW doesn't address I will be doing it regardless of warranty issues. I can't have it stalling...it happened in an intersection one time and could ultimately be a safety problem which is why I am confident BMW will get it addressed. They can't have footage like I have turned in and ignore it...too much liability.
I just got the handheld remap done with Brentune, much better at city speeds now & smoother throttle application throughout all rpms. Now when you fire it up, it doesn’t rev at 2000rpms for 30 seconds, it just goes directly to around 1350rpms. Overall very happy, with a full system steel Akra and BOS exhaust in my case. I was looking for that smoother throttle response, didn’t care too much about the extra power, but it is definitely welcome. Before any servicing, I’ll reflash it to stock (it just takes a few minutes). My Service guys at the dealership said that shall I reflash it back to stock before servicing, it should be ok. At the moment no stalling issues, but in NYC it is still cooler... will keep an eye out. Brentuning vid below explaining the whole process: czcams.com/video/91uQF3BWBf0/video.html Keep up the great job! ✌️
Awesome response, much appreciated! I think it is a fantastic mod and I would have done it by now if I didn't have the longer warranty. I am hoping to put some serious miles on the bike if my work life permits so will hold off for the time being. The whole process sounds really easy. I am interested to hear if you notice the bike running cooler in the summer. I have noticed that it throws a fair amount of heat in the warmer months.
I have a 2021 S1000XR from the beginning of May. So far mine also stalls when downshifting in lower gears like going to a stoplight , but only in Dynamic Pro riding mode where I adjusted the settings for max torque. I still have to go to the dealership with it , I really wonder what they are going to say about this.
My immediate personal reaction is: If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. All BMW bikes are manufactured in Berlin, Germany. This stalling issue is confined to North America, therefore there must be something happening over there that is causing this problem. You mentioned a possible air-fuel mixture issue. Here in Belgium I am unaware of this issue. But I would never ever fiddle with the software of my BMW S1000XR model 2020, if there was even the slightest chance of voiding the warranty.
Yeah...I don't want to mess with the warranty so any tuning will only be done as a last resort and I fully expect BMW to get it straight based on what I heard.
@@ThrottleBackRubberDown You also keep mentioning that this stalling issue possibly only occurs in high ambient summer temperatures. Again, this points to the possibility of fuel and air being the cause, but why only in North America? Make sure you buy your fuel from very trustworthy sources, if possible always from the same ones. The cooling liquid of the S1000XR easily reaches the boiling point of water - even in the cold of winter - and that’s where its fan kicks in. Surely your summer temperatures never get that high. BTW, the S1000XR’s air filter should be replaced every 10,000 km (6,000 miles).
I had a 2020 S 1000 XR and had the same stalling issues with the dealership could not replicate four different times I brought it in. It did seem to happen in warmer or hot weather‘s as I’m out here in California. Between the dealership BMW North America and myself we came to an understanding that they would take the bike back and got me a brand new triple black 2022 which I have had no issues with and I’m already at 1000 miles
I've been so bogged down lately...getting caught up on some comments this afternoon. Currently getting her ready for the 6000 mile service which, work permitting, I should hit that mark in the next week or two.
Sounds like a lot of work to get it tuned, and mapped. Surprised that a simple boosterplug could fix the issues, if you purchased one for $159.95. I don't know if they have one for the year of vehicle though. Take care, ride safe.
Yeah...The tune is pretty cool and I haven't heard an unhappy customer yet. If the issue returns and BMW drags their feet or can't address it I will pull the trigger, warranty be damned.
Off topic but has anyone changed the rear fender/hugger? I wouldn't mind something a bit longer to keep off more muck. I see Wunderlich do a carbon one which looks a bit longer and I also saw a cheap fender extender from someone else.
I have given this idea some thought as I get quite a bit of spray all over the back and top case. Which one were you looking at? Carbon is always a nice option as it looks awesome but usually pricey.
@@ThrottleBackRubberDown Wunderlich do carbon replacement bits for absolutely everything. But yes...about 280 euros just for a fender isn't really my ticket. I might try the 30 Euro (or was it Pound) little extender which comes with screws and also sticky pads if you don't want to put holes in the original. I forget the brand. Sending carbon bits to the US would help push up those costs
Knowing BMW, I'd bet they'll void it at least in terms of engine issues. I know with some vehicles, if it's flashed at all, when the dealer hooks up the diag and finds that out, instant void and that can't be changed/challenged. My BMW is older, so there's nothing like this for mine, even if I wanted to. Do they make a AF-XiED for the S1000XR? Sometimes that can smooth things out and wouldn't void a warranty, at least I don't think so. I know people that get this just to raise the speed governed on the K1600GA which is limited to 101 or something like that. BMW does some kooky things that IDK if I'd buy another. I go back and forth.
Yeah...I love my dealer so much that I have a hard time walking away from them. I will see how things progress with BMW and make a decision on the next bike based on how things work out with them. Definitely some weird stuff...overall I am still really satisfied with the bike so that is a good thing.
@@ThrottleBackRubberDown My only advice is follow the maintenance like it’s an aircraft. Especially the brake fluid. flush every 2 years or less. If you do that it will do well.
Is the stalling issue widespread ? Is it all bikes around the world or is it just a few ? I’ve had my bike about month with no issues, admittedly I’m in the UK and it’s been very cool so far I’m March and April. Does it happen in all the riding modes or just a specific one ? I was thinking about a BrenTune after reading up on it, however, I’m not going to do this after reading it might void the warranty. One of the reasons for buying new was the warranty, I had a Multistrada that was out of warranty and it cost me a fortune, once bitten twice shy and all that.
I purchased my S1000XR at the beging of August 2020 here in Belgium, and I have never ever had these stalling issues either mentioned by TBRD. We have had temperatures of well in excess of 30°C here during that August of 2020, but still no stalling issues. My bike was not recalled either. An Internet search revealed that these stalling issues are confined to North America, but why this is so is unclear until now.
I couldn't objectively measure it but I will say this. I have had many people reach out watching my content saying they are experiencing the same thing and the dealer told me they suspect that BMW will be addressing soon with a TSB or even a possible recall.
@@ThrottleBackRubberDown What puzzles me with this stalling issue is that it only occurs in North America. Why not in Europe? Are you guys using moonshine fuel or does your fuel contain methanol instead of ethanol?
@@ThrottleBackRubberDown Here in Europe all high-octane fuel is unleaded and blended with at least 5% of ethanol. I believe that only a small batch of bikes was concerned by this stalling issue right at the beginning and mainly in North America. I have never had my S1000XR stall on me unexpectedly.
If BMW can fix it, roll with the stock tune. I don't tune any of my vehicles. I figure if I wanted a faster vehicle, I would've bought a faster vehicle. That's just my perspective though. I ride a Harley and drive a truck though, so I am unfamiliar with fast :D
Funny you say that...I feel the same way as far as the speed goes. The bike is stupid fast as it it...I certainly don't need more speed out of her but I do like the idea of it running more efficiently and cooler. That being said...I am not risking the warranty being voided...unless the dealer can't fix the stalling if it does in fact return. Pretty cool that we have these options though.
@@ThrottleBackRubberDown yeah, having options is good, warranty is better. I like that my vehicles don't get out of hand unless you've got whiskey throttle.
@@ThrottleBackRubberDown Also you may want to try a different dealer. We have dealers out here in California likeIrv Seaver that will not touch bren tune, while Long Beach BMW Bren tunes these bikes all the time. They don’t worry about warranty issues
I don’t think using the “it could void your warranty“ argument is valid. BMW will look for any excuse to not honor a warranty. If you over rev and the engine blows up, they’re going to blame you. So that argument just does not hold water with me. There are obviously some tuning flaws with the 2020+ XR that I experienced and I resolved with the Bren tune I’m very happy with the results. But they can’t just willy-nilly void your warranty because you had a tune down to it. I tuned my bike for drivability issues caused by BMWs and I’ll be damned if I’m going to accept them not owning up to it because something else goes wrong. You also forgot to mention that since you purchased the handheld you can always flash it back to stock so they will never know, and cannot use it as an excuse for the warranty. So you can either live with the screwed up tune that BMW put on the bike, or you can fix it the choice is yours…
Have a 23’ S1000XR Mpackage w/extended warranty and just Brentune 2+ and 1 year & 6k miles of ownership absolutely love the bike, the tuning was done at the dealership and the benefits are well worth it!
Gave up flashing back in the '70's. Everybody lost their sense of humor and I got a bad sun burn.
Seriously, interesting info. Thanks. Love that bike.
Hahaha. Cheers mate. I appreciate the support and stalling issue aside I wouldn't trade this bike.
I understand the worries about flashing. I did flash my vstar also , actually before the warranty was up. It made a great difference as I was going to sell it. I think you have to figure out if your happy with the bike as is, and how much happier would having the changes make you.
That takes time and digging research, at least that way the decision will be the one your most happy living with.
I have the same bike just over 3000 miles on it and have had the same stalling issue. It has gone away so far. Temperature is climbing fast here in south Tx hope it doesn't come back.
I will call my local dealer for any possible updates to the ECM.
Love the channel keep up the good work.
Really appreciate the comment and support. Definitely keep me posted as to your situation. I am hoping after 5,500 miles it is in my rearview but if it resurfaces I will be working closely with BMW to get it straight and will share what I find out.
Has the stalling returned or just a run in thing ?
Great video, considering an s100xr next
What mic are you using/deadcat?
Hi mate,
Just a little update since our last talk: it 's getting hotter here in France, and last time I took my bike for a trip the stalling issue were back (it was 79°F outside).
So, yes: I also believe that is a mapping issue.
My dealership has contacted BMW which is gonna send a kind of "black-box" to put on my bike: it will record all data when I use the bike to find out where does the issue come from. I'll tell you if they find anything :)
Have a good day
Got the same bike brother. Went stage 2 and decat. Its amazing.
Hi! Did you have any warranty problems?
Thanks for posting. I have a 2023 S1000XR. No issues with stalling. This tuning / flashing sounds great, but like you, I don’t want any issues voiding my warranty. The power on this bike is just fine for me. My previous bikes included the S1000RR and the R1200RS.
How does the XR compare to the RS? I'm thinking about the RS. I'm currently on the 2021 XR. Thank you.
@@EEEBA1 I prefer the engine on the XR as I lived my S1000RR. Smooth, forgiving and powerful.
@@JulioVillavicencio-ru2sn Yeah, I always had inline four bikes including my S1000RR before the XR so I am not sure if the boxer engine would do it for me...
Trust me - my bike has been transformed. Completely different ride ;-) You won't regret it. BUT, my bike STILL stalls, even after the stage one tune..
Still have stalling? Have you seen stage 2? I believe it may have come out after you commented this
My 21 S1000RR stalled twice today in 80F Ohio weather here. Have a full exhaust/sprint air filter/stage 2 Brentune flash. At stops going into first gear and pulling the clutch in and stalls. Have 750 miles on the bike and this is the first time it’s ever stalled on me.
It is very tempting but I also went for extended warranty. The stage 1 sounds great but..... It's awesome that you have such a good dialogue with your dealer. One of the best mods available!
Also, why only 480p??!
I would do mine in a second if I didn't have the warranty to think about. So...about 480p...My videos are currently shot in 1080 but I need to do some work on settings. I know YT compresses the crap out of videos but I am not satisfied with all the blur/pixelization I see. Revzilla did a great article on the settings they use for Daily Rider. My issue with shooting at such high quality is my cheap laptop and the time it will take to edit/upload. I am going to play around a bit in the coming weeks/months to work on making some improvements to find the best quality that still yields a reasonable amount of time on editing/uploading. I know when I shot in 2.7k the time was significant. I think I might give 4k a try though and see how long it takes just for giggles and see what the end result looks like. I really want to make some improvements in this area.
I get my new s1000xr te m sport in a week and will get it flashed by bren when the 1st service has been completed. If you buy the bren handheld, it will store the original factory settings and you can simply restore these just before any visit to the bmw dealer .Then when you get it back re-install the bran flash from the handheld. Also my gen 1 XR has covered 30000 miles without any issues or engine warranty problems so maybe this is a factor for you whether to get the flash done. Also on Cubans website , 3 years ago he had stage 1 and 2 bren on his gen 1 xr and rings the hell out of the bike all of the time and no problems with the engine.
Life’s too short to worry about something that might not happen
Yeah...You are like that little devil on my left shoulder, hahaha. I don't disagree with anything you have stated...I think I am playing this one too conservatively but based on my convo with my dealer will just wait for the time being and probably wish later on I did it sooner!
Thanks for the information 👍. Have a good day 😊
Thanks for the support brother.
I have a 2016 S1000XR well out of warranty, I really don't go to BMW for service since they charge INSANE prices to do simple work. I do most everything myself. I just ordered the tune from Brentune, my bike is difficult to ride below 20 mph and I can really tell how damped the throttle is in the first few gears. I really just want it uncorked. Plus better fueling sounds great and can't hurt.
Hey TBRD, 100% been thinking about getting this done.
If the stalling resurfaces and BMW doesn't address I will be doing it regardless of warranty issues. I can't have it stalling...it happened in an intersection one time and could ultimately be a safety problem which is why I am confident BMW will get it addressed. They can't have footage like I have turned in and ignore it...too much liability.
@@ThrottleBackRubberDown Yeah man, you gotta be confident in the bike at all times. Gotta stay safe too.
I just got the handheld remap done with Brentune, much better at city speeds now & smoother throttle application throughout all rpms.
Now when you fire it up, it doesn’t rev at 2000rpms for 30 seconds, it just goes directly to around 1350rpms.
Overall very happy, with a full system steel Akra and BOS exhaust in my case.
I was looking for that smoother throttle response, didn’t care too much about the extra power, but it is definitely welcome.
Before any servicing, I’ll reflash it to stock (it just takes a few minutes). My Service guys at the dealership said that shall I reflash it back to stock before servicing, it should be ok.
At the moment no stalling issues, but in NYC it is still cooler... will keep an eye out.
Brentuning vid below explaining the whole process:
czcams.com/video/91uQF3BWBf0/video.html
Keep up the great job! ✌️
Awesome response, much appreciated! I think it is a fantastic mod and I would have done it by now if I didn't have the longer warranty. I am hoping to put some serious miles on the bike if my work life permits so will hold off for the time being. The whole process sounds really easy. I am interested to hear if you notice the bike running cooler in the summer. I have noticed that it throws a fair amount of heat in the warmer months.
I have a 2021 S1000XR from the beginning of May. So far mine also stalls when downshifting in lower gears like going to a stoplight , but only in Dynamic Pro riding mode where I adjusted the settings for max torque.
I still have to go to the dealership with it , I really wonder what they are going to say about this.
My immediate personal reaction is:
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
All BMW bikes are manufactured in Berlin, Germany.
This stalling issue is confined to North America, therefore there must be something happening over there that is causing this problem.
You mentioned a possible air-fuel mixture issue.
Here in Belgium I am unaware of this issue.
But I would never ever fiddle with the software of my BMW S1000XR model 2020, if there was even the slightest chance of voiding the warranty.
Yeah...I don't want to mess with the warranty so any tuning will only be done as a last resort and I fully expect BMW to get it straight based on what I heard.
@@ThrottleBackRubberDown You also keep mentioning that this stalling issue possibly only occurs in high ambient summer temperatures.
Again, this points to the possibility of fuel and air being the cause, but why only in North America?
Make sure you buy your fuel from very trustworthy sources, if possible always from the same ones.
The cooling liquid of the S1000XR easily reaches the boiling point of water - even in the cold of winter - and that’s where its fan kicks in. Surely your summer temperatures never get that high.
BTW, the S1000XR’s air filter should be replaced every 10,000 km (6,000 miles).
I had a 2020 S 1000 XR and had the same stalling issues with the dealership could not replicate four different times I brought it in. It did seem to happen in warmer or hot weather‘s as I’m out here in California. Between the dealership BMW North America and myself we came to an understanding that they would take the bike back and got me a brand new triple black 2022 which I have had no issues with and I’m already at 1000 miles
@@jl088 I rode 25,000 km with my 2020 S1000XR, but I have never ever experienced any inexplicable stalling on that motorcycle.
Ok you still have that beautiful bike. Hahaha.. Glad to see your out .. still watching.
How many miles are you up to now ?
I've been so bogged down lately...getting caught up on some comments this afternoon. Currently getting her ready for the 6000 mile service which, work permitting, I should hit that mark in the next week or two.
Thanks for the video 👍
Appreciate your support.
Sounds like a lot of work to get it tuned, and mapped. Surprised that a simple boosterplug could fix the issues, if you purchased one for $159.95. I don't know if they have one for the year of vehicle though. Take care, ride safe.
Yeah...The tune is pretty cool and I haven't heard an unhappy customer yet. If the issue returns and BMW drags their feet or can't address it I will pull the trigger, warranty be damned.
Off topic but has anyone changed the rear fender/hugger? I wouldn't mind something a bit longer to keep off more muck. I see Wunderlich do a carbon one which looks a bit longer and I also saw a cheap fender extender from someone else.
I have given this idea some thought as I get quite a bit of spray all over the back and top case. Which one were you looking at? Carbon is always a nice option as it looks awesome but usually pricey.
@@ThrottleBackRubberDown Wunderlich do carbon replacement bits for absolutely everything. But yes...about 280 euros just for a fender isn't really my ticket. I might try the 30 Euro (or was it Pound) little extender which comes with screws and also sticky pads if you don't want to put holes in the original. I forget the brand. Sending carbon bits to the US would help push up those costs
Knowing BMW, I'd bet they'll void it at least in terms of engine issues. I know with some vehicles, if it's flashed at all, when the dealer hooks up the diag and finds that out, instant void and that can't be changed/challenged. My BMW is older, so there's nothing like this for mine, even if I wanted to. Do they make a AF-XiED for the S1000XR? Sometimes that can smooth things out and wouldn't void a warranty, at least I don't think so. I know people that get this just to raise the speed governed on the K1600GA which is limited to 101 or something like that. BMW does some kooky things that IDK if I'd buy another. I go back and forth.
Yeah...I love my dealer so much that I have a hard time walking away from them. I will see how things progress with BMW and make a decision on the next bike based on how things work out with them. Definitely some weird stuff...overall I am still really satisfied with the bike so that is a good thing.
@@ThrottleBackRubberDown My only advice is follow the maintenance like it’s an aircraft. Especially the brake fluid. flush every 2 years or less. If you do that it will do well.
Is the stalling issue widespread ? Is it all bikes around the world or is it just a few ? I’ve had my bike about month with no issues, admittedly I’m in the UK and it’s been very cool so far I’m March and April. Does it happen in all the riding modes or just a specific one ?
I was thinking about a BrenTune after reading up on it, however, I’m not going to do this after reading it might void the warranty. One of the reasons for buying new was the warranty, I had a Multistrada that was out of warranty and it cost me a fortune, once bitten twice shy and all that.
I purchased my S1000XR at the beging of August 2020 here in Belgium, and I have never ever had these stalling issues either mentioned by TBRD.
We have had temperatures of well in excess of 30°C here during that August of 2020, but still no stalling issues.
My bike was not recalled either.
An Internet search revealed that these stalling issues are confined to North America, but why this is so is unclear until now.
I couldn't objectively measure it but I will say this. I have had many people reach out watching my content saying they are experiencing the same thing and the dealer told me they suspect that BMW will be addressing soon with a TSB or even a possible recall.
@@ThrottleBackRubberDown What puzzles me with this stalling issue is that it only occurs in North America.
Why not in Europe?
Are you guys using moonshine fuel or does your fuel contain methanol instead of ethanol?
@@marcos.1771 Well...I've heard about it in Australia as well so hard to say. Unfortunately we also have the Ethanol blended fuel.
@@ThrottleBackRubberDown Here in Europe all high-octane fuel is unleaded and blended with at least 5% of ethanol.
I believe that only a small batch of bikes was concerned by this stalling issue right at the beginning and mainly in North America.
I have never had my S1000XR stall on me unexpectedly.
I remember when it was just a jet kit and a pipe. So much easier
Hahah, so true. A pretty cool time though in that all these services are available remotely.
If BMW can fix it, roll with the stock tune. I don't tune any of my vehicles. I figure if I wanted a faster vehicle, I would've bought a faster vehicle. That's just my perspective though. I ride a Harley and drive a truck though, so I am unfamiliar with fast :D
Funny you say that...I feel the same way as far as the speed goes. The bike is stupid fast as it it...I certainly don't need more speed out of her but I do like the idea of it running more efficiently and cooler. That being said...I am not risking the warranty being voided...unless the dealer can't fix the stalling if it does in fact return. Pretty cool that we have these options though.
@@ThrottleBackRubberDown yeah, having options is good, warranty is better. I like that my vehicles don't get out of hand unless you've got whiskey throttle.
@@ThrottleBackRubberDown Also you may want to try a different dealer. We have dealers out here in California likeIrv Seaver that will not touch bren tune, while Long Beach BMW Bren tunes these bikes all the time. They don’t worry about warranty issues
I don’t think using the “it could void your warranty“ argument is valid. BMW will look for any excuse to not honor a warranty. If you over rev and the engine blows up, they’re going to blame you. So that argument just does not hold water with me. There are obviously some tuning flaws with the 2020+ XR that I experienced and I resolved with the Bren tune I’m very happy with the results. But they can’t just willy-nilly void your warranty because you had a tune down to it. I tuned my bike for drivability issues caused by BMWs and I’ll be damned if I’m going to accept them not owning up to it because something else goes wrong. You also forgot to mention that since you purchased the handheld you can always flash it back to stock so they will never know, and cannot use it as an excuse for the warranty. So you can either live with the screwed up tune that BMW put on the bike, or you can fix it the choice is yours…