The reason no weldors talk about this kind of weld is because you’re doing what’s called tack welding, which most weldors don’t do. Most weldors would do a continuous weld on each side instead of a tack welding because it will last longer and will be stronger.
@@TheMathieu2011you don't have to tack weld thin metal just turn down your voltage and you can just hold a beat on it what do you like why would you do this?
Why not just learn how to run a bead. Or if you insist on tacking it clean the slag off after each tack. With this process the weld is full of slag inclusions and is basically like Swiss cheese.
I was thinking the same thing and I've only done sick welding once. I've done a lot of MIG but I still know that there would be too much crap if you stick weld like that.
@@wrenchbender66 yea, I don’t weld much anymore but I was 6-G GTAW certified and did mig and stick as well. These videos are like torture to watch, but they get people talking about it and that causes their videos to get more views so I guess it works for them.
He’s running 6013 which has similar characteristics as 6010 which both run hit so the the material he’s using is pretty thin, so most likely to burn through. What he can do is lower the amperage and go at a faster pace to successfully run a bead
@@somerandomname9252it's meant to be used for smoothing out a dent after it's roughly shaped, this comment is talking about filling in a dent the size of a human skull instead of pushing it out to get it close enough first
@@robi4783 if you like to learn how to weld correctly , go to a college or school , and get taught by a professional tradesmen boilermaker teacher ..... what you see here is not correct , need to weld continuous , not this stop start welding . Thay think their pros , but their not .
What about thin tubing and welding at the ends with a stick welder? Isn't tacking better in this situation or what solution do u do to stop the melting of the tubing on a constant weld.
@Blue Sapphire turn your amperage as low as possible and try to weld. If your having issues with that then turn your amperage up accordingly. You're not gonna lay dimes on thin metal with a stick.
@@Blue1Sapphire depends. If it’s only stick we are talking about, I personally would run 1/8in 7018 rod, dc+, 70amps. And tac all 4 corners, run a consistent bead wrapping all 4 corners.
Because tack welding is a weak weld is why they don't talk about it. "Tack" welding when put under stress will break. There is little to no penetration, and you'd be fired on the spot for this rookie welders do not do this.
I'd like to see how much penetration is on the back side of the weld. Why not just use correct amperage and run a bead forhand rather than back hand that way it won't burn thru
ah yes... the long lost secret of how to guarantee a slag inclusion in your weld joint. to be honest I think you're trying to show that welding something in sections can keep it from overheating, but even then, to do so properly, you'd weld a stitch, clean it, and then do a proper tie in with your next stitch
This is like the guy who says he can weld but really cant, to each his own but bring that shii to a real welding shop or any real welder and you will get walked out or maybe even kicked in the ass on the way out...
@@migstickwelder1992 hes 100% correct. If this is your idea of welding, i wouldnt pay you 10 cents an hour for your welds. You tacked the entire joint with a stick and didnt even bother cleaning the slag after each tack. You trapped a bunch of it in every tack. This is absolutely the worst possible way to "weld". Anyone whos taken a day of training could tell you that
@@skipads5141 no, no its not. Its not extremely thin, and its not the way its done. This is not welding, its tacking. Period. End of story. Tacking something has a fraction of the strength that a weld does. Hes also trapping slag and shit inside his tacks because he doesnt know wtf hes doing and making this weaker and 100% more prone to failure. Proof: Years and years of welding as a job, not a hobby, with 100s of people who also weld....not a damn 1 of them would tell you this is the way its done
@@migstickwelder1992 yeah homie youre not fooling anyone thats actually welded before, you clearly have no idea what youre doing or how to properly weld lmao
No one talks about it because you aren’t welding it. You just tacked it over and over and didn’t clean each pass. Shits going to be full of slag and is way weaker than a normal weld.
If you approach all welding with this method, supervision will be giving you all money you’ve earned from show up time to right after they saw you weld.
Apparently no one here has had to weld very thin metal with a stick. Trying to run a bead on thin wall tubing is very difficult and quite often burns through causing internal sags. Tack welding thin metal produces cleaner, stronger welds. Been doing it for forty years.
@@garethmccullough390 not with the 6013. If I remember correctly the 6013 stays a little wet and will drop through the gap. But I would gap and root it with 6010 the cap with 7018 lo hi.
Yes, but some rods work well on material with a primer or galv on it, 6010, 6011 and 6013. I prefer 6010. And qlwith wire, coreshield if fine also being a gasless fcaw.
@@ML-ks2ljyoud run two passes on a 1/8 tubing how useless is that 😂 here a trick. Take a 3/32 7018 rod and run a bead the heat alone will almost melt straight through.
1) You’d be better off TIG welding that thin metal because the TIG process allows you to be far more precise with the amount and rate of heat and filler metal that you add to your weld. Too much heat and you piece warps or you burn through. Too much filler metal and it excessively builds up on either side of the bead which just increases the time you have to spend cleaning it up with the grinder. 2) Tac welding is temporary and only meant to hold something together long enough to properly weld it
No penetration, those little tack weld’s will break if that tubing gets hit hard. And why not 7018 rods? I fab handrails with a little bit thicker tubing than that all the time and if we can’t mig it we use the 7018’s on carbon
@@troberts2009 yea lol it’s safe to say this guy has no clue what he’s doing, I got maybe 5 years experience I’m no expert that’s for damn sure but I got a little bit of common sense lol
That there looks like Mexican Trailer factory welding to me, do the other 3 sides, itll hold for at least 15 years, which will prolly be the life of the product anyway lol
Lots of haters saying to run a beadbat low amps, i tried at 30amps amd 40 amps and my machine wont arc, just spark, stick and glow, i try to strike an arc to start but it sparks so weak and sticks, this vid helped me weld with 70amps doing tacks on thin metal, thanks!
This is the equivalent of dip your toes to check if the waters too cold. Just jump right into it, and you’ll f*ckin’ adjust to it so you wont have to worry about your stick tap dancing. 😃
>Be me >Watch video >Be unsure as to whether the weld is good or not >Come to comments to find out whether thr weld is good or not >Have to scroll for 5 solid minutes to find an actual explanation that this is a hella good weld >Video loops that entire time
Pls tell me this is only a demo to start on thin metal, to run a bead on this type of metal your amps, speed and angel must compliment each other to avoid burning holes or overheat the metal and disforrm the end product strength. Remember each welder has hir/ her own style to perfect their trade
Welders don’t talk about this because as you let it cool that slag sits at the top and if you keep doing that you’re trapping slag every time you tack it
Welders don’t talk about it cause it ain’t a weld, it’s a tack it’s meant to hold a piece of metal together whilst you bind them. It’s not gonna last or hold well.
Welder's DO talk about it... about how bad it is. That's a good way to get porosity. We talk about the many welding processes that are possible for particular applications, the pros and cons, and we decide which process is best. This one shown is not something that a professional welder would choose for such thin material.
When u tack, a little air bubble is left behind in the center of the tack. A tack weld is meant to temporarily hold pieces together before u weld it all the way out. All the air bubbles u left all the way down the weld is basically a connect the dots for a crack that will eventually form.
The reason no welders talk about this is because it will kill someone if done wrong, like my guy you were welding over a cooled of puddle… slag trap city
The reason no weldors talk about this kind of weld is because you’re doing what’s called tack welding, which most weldors don’t do. Most weldors would do a continuous weld on each side instead of a tack welding because it will last longer and will be stronger.
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@@migstickwelder1992 you are teaching horrible habits. Stop it.
@@6.7powerstroke13 His wasting sticks power and our time 🤣
spot welding like that does keep the square tubing from getting hot and flexing out from being straight...
@@sheanaroe4391 you have no idea what your talking about. That's a fact.
this isn’t a secret it’s called crappy welds
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or Tack welding, so you don't blow through thin metal?
dab dab method?
@@tuxnoel On sheet metal yes, but bout 2mm pipe if you dont have the correct stick then sure why not.
@MMattes You too🙂
Most welders don't talk about this because it's counter-productive.
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True
Why please?
I am still learning welding and want to know all the hate comments on tack welding thin metal
@@TheMathieu2011you don't have to tack weld thin metal just turn down your voltage and you can just hold a beat on it what do you like why would you do this?
@@deathninja16cheers man that pretty helpful as i am also learning to weld
Why is if so difficult to run a fucking bead?!
Material is very thin and will burn a hole
Palms get sweaty
Mom's spaghetti
@@R.DeMora8 MIIIILE
@@badrinathrs use a smaller rod and turn the power down
That doesn't sell on you tube!
Why not just learn how to run a bead. Or if you insist on tacking it clean the slag off after each tack. With this process the weld is full of slag inclusions and is basically like Swiss cheese.
I was thinking the same thing and I've only done sick welding once. I've done a lot of MIG but I still know that there would be too much crap if you stick weld like that.
@@wrenchbender66 yea, I don’t weld much anymore but I was 6-G GTAW certified and did mig and stick as well. These videos are like torture to watch, but they get people talking about it and that causes their videos to get more views so I guess it works for them.
@@SkidzFPV That's true. But at least if people talk about it, then maybe they will find out the correct way to do this stuff, right?
@@wrenchbender66 let’s hope so
He’s running 6013 which has similar characteristics as 6010 which both run hit so the the material he’s using is pretty thin, so most likely to burn through. What he can do is lower the amperage and go at a faster pace to successfully run a bead
This is the equivalent of an auto body dent repair with 2 pounds of bondo.
This will hold on thin metal. Been there.
Wait a min... 🤔 so you're NOT supposed to use 1 can of bondo per dent?
Don't knock bondo. I use it to repair accident cars. Hides every dent and crease.
@@somerandomname9252it's meant to be used for smoothing out a dent after it's roughly shaped, this comment is talking about filling in a dent the size of a human skull instead of pushing it out to get it close enough first
@@somerandomname9252try using lead!!!! It’s better
I’ve never come across a welding video where the comment section is happy
I agree. I want to learn how to weld properly and I didn't find a single video where the comment section wasn't toxic
I have, from reputable welding areas
@@robi4783just do a continuous weld 3mm from the metal and keep your pace. And learn from there.
Then may I introduce you to weldingtipsandtricks.
Its the channel everyone respects
@@robi4783 if you like to learn how to weld correctly , go to a college or school , and get taught by a professional tradesmen boilermaker teacher ..... what you see here is not correct , need to weld continuous , not this stop start welding . Thay think their pros , but their not .
Penetration is the reason nobody talks about it😂
These have to be purposely made to bother most of us
Or burying a fuckton of slag into his bead(s) 😂
Channel’s trolling 😡
@@ebfproductions2029what more penetration do you expect from that 1.2mm steel ?
As a welder I wouldn’t recommend anyone who is learning or would like to weld to do this. Tac to hold it together, so you can run your bead.
What about thin tubing and welding at the ends with a stick welder? Isn't tacking better in this situation or what solution do u do to stop the melting of the tubing on a constant weld.
@@Blue1Sapphire always use the right welding process 🤗
@Blue Sapphire turn your amperage as low as possible and try to weld. If your having issues with that then turn your amperage up accordingly. You're not gonna lay dimes on thin metal with a stick.
@@Blue1Sapphire depends. If it’s only stick we are talking about, I personally would run 1/8in 7018 rod, dc+, 70amps. And tac all 4 corners, run a consistent bead wrapping all 4 corners.
@@Blue1Sapphire but it all depends on the metal honestly
No welders talk about it because only non welders do it. You just buried a bunch if slag in your bead(s) 😂
I thought they were gonna do circles at first, but no, it's far worse.
TAKE ME DOWN TO THE POROSITY WHERE THE PLATES ARE CLEAN AND THE WELDS ARE SHITTY,
OH WON'T YOU PLEASE TAKE ME HOMEEEE
Because tack welding is a weak weld is why they don't talk about it. "Tack" welding when put under stress will break. There is little to no penetration, and you'd be fired on the spot for this rookie welders do not do this.
Tack welding is still useful for aesthetics, though. Given the area isn't under force, and that it's on the edge.
@@gozinta82 well you can still get the aesthetic of a wip and pause from a 6010 or 6011 though.
doing this on something like a table at home or shop..but not on a job for maintenance..governments job just want get it done.
@barbarasteed3966 well you can still get it done fast even if government and still make it look good.
Never welded a day in my life and I knew this was completely wrong.
Now please do the break test wanna bet i break on the weld and not the material
My welding instructor would roast this guy for what he is doing
Welding is a process. Part of the process is matching your tools and their settings to the job.
Obviously because big weld doesnt want you to know. Jokes aside , doing an uninterupted weld will hold much longer and look much better
it seems he's avoiding making potholes,
the bar was thin obviously
Big Weld.
That's funny, sir.
We dont talk about rhat because there is nothing to talk about. It's not welding.
watch full video on my chanel! 🫡
@@migstickwelder1992 no. why would i want to see more of that
@@nickstachowiak5717😂😂
@@migstickwelder1992you are not a welder there is now gap means there is no pen you are a cowboy 💯🏴
@@nickstachowiak5717 omg bruv u ended his life
This integrates slag into the "bead." The only "proper" way to use this technique would be to clean off the slag after each tack weld.
Exactly. And not even nearly all sticks are approved to be welded on the slag of previous bead.
My guess is the guy can't lay a bead
u have full video on my chanel, please watch it , thank you 🫡
I'd like to see how much penetration is on the back side of the weld. Why not just use correct amperage and run a bead forhand rather than back hand that way it won't burn thru
I've done welds this way on thin materials before and trust me, the weld burns and fully penetrates to the back due to how thin the material is.
@@JarrenW83 Lower your amperage
😂 just lay a continuous weld instead of just “tacking” it together
Welders talk about this during joke time
Us farmers joke about all so-called professional weld jobs,when we have to repair them, this "tacking" works in the real world
ah yes... the long lost secret of how to guarantee a slag inclusion in your weld joint. to be honest I think you're trying to show that welding something in sections can keep it from overheating, but even then, to do so properly, you'd weld a stitch, clean it, and then do a proper tie in with your next stitch
This is like the guy who says he can weld but really cant, to each his own but bring that shii to a real welding shop or any real welder and you will get walked out or maybe even kicked in the ass on the way out...
okay mr.welder 🫡🫡 🤣
@@migstickwelder1992 hes 100% correct. If this is your idea of welding, i wouldnt pay you 10 cents an hour for your welds. You tacked the entire joint with a stick and didnt even bother cleaning the slag after each tack. You trapped a bunch of it in every tack. This is absolutely the worst possible way to "weld". Anyone whos taken a day of training could tell you that
@@d8l835: It's extremely thin metal. This is how that's done.
@@skipads5141 no, no its not. Its not extremely thin, and its not the way its done. This is not welding, its tacking. Period. End of story. Tacking something has a fraction of the strength that a weld does. Hes also trapping slag and shit inside his tacks because he doesnt know wtf hes doing and making this weaker and 100% more prone to failure.
Proof: Years and years of welding as a job, not a hobby, with 100s of people who also weld....not a damn 1 of them would tell you this is the way its done
@@migstickwelder1992 yeah homie youre not fooling anyone thats actually welded before, you clearly have no idea what youre doing or how to properly weld lmao
Keep posting these plz👌🏽 welds like that is why I have a job🤣🤣
Most welders don’t talk about because it won’t pass a test
I welded like this once. Then I graduated kindergarten and it got all better.
No one talks about it because you aren’t welding it. You just tacked it over and over and didn’t clean each pass. Shits going to be full of slag and is way weaker than a normal weld.
We need a internet welder that doesn’t do just 2432 TACK WELDS 😡😂
The reason welders don’t talk about that is because it traps slag and is not near as strong as weld as just running a bead.
Yeah NO , tack corners straight bead weld
Well damn. Where was this video when I was in high school autocad building go-karts?
The comments on this video are probably saving alot of people from going "I saw this guy weld like this so it must be right" 😂
This guy's welds are like his coffee, one grind makes it weak
That's like teaching a bird to aim while s##tting on a pipe!
So... this man has commitment issues with the amount of fish eyes. 😂😂😂
If you approach all welding with this method, supervision will be giving you all money you’ve earned from show up time to right after they saw you weld.
If I showed this kind of weld to my boss I would be fired on the spot the weld looks good but it’s the most shittest weld you can do
The weakest part of a weld is the ends, this weld has like 10 weak points
Walk into a shop and interview with that and see what happens.
Revoke this man's welding permission
Me who has never welded in his life before 😮
Because tack welding is for tacking things together.
Most welders don’t talk about this because ✨slag inclusion✨it significantly weakens the weld
Really great tacks you hack!
Not a secret, and not the best weld....
Apparently no one here has had to weld very thin metal with a stick. Trying to run a bead on thin wall tubing is very difficult and quite often burns through causing internal sags. Tack welding thin metal produces cleaner, stronger welds. Been doing it for forty years.
yea , true ,some time u just cant run a bead ,and they dont understand some people dont have good machine for thin metal 😁
Apparently, those calling this out as bad welding are correct. This is how it’s done…czcams.com/video/71pkFS-d7uI/video.html
DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS GUY HAS BEEN..WELDERS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR OVER ONE HUNDRED YEARS.
Doesn't anyone clean the metal before welding anymore ???
😂 I do lol. A little gap would also help here too wouldn’t you say ?
@@garethmccullough390 not with the 6013. If I remember correctly the 6013 stays a little wet and will drop through the gap. But I would gap and root it with 6010 the cap with 7018 lo hi.
At least the chinese videos start with new steel. I've been getting pakistani "welding" videos lately. Oh. My. God.
Yes, but some rods work well on material with a primer or galv on it, 6010, 6011 and 6013. I prefer 6010. And qlwith wire, coreshield if fine also being a gasless fcaw.
@@ML-ks2ljyoud run two passes on a 1/8 tubing how useless is that 😂 here a trick. Take a 3/32 7018 rod and run a bead the heat alone will almost melt straight through.
If he's a welder im an astronaut
1) You’d be better off TIG welding that thin metal because the TIG process allows you to be far more precise with the amount and rate of heat and filler metal that you add to your weld. Too much heat and you piece warps or you burn through. Too much filler metal and it excessively builds up on either side of the bead which just increases the time you have to spend cleaning it up with the grinder.
2) Tac welding is temporary and only meant to hold something together long enough to properly weld it
Or just crank your amps down and use a 3/32 inch rod and don’t use 6013 or variants of the 60 family because they’re all deep depositing rods.
No penetration, those little tack weld’s will break if that tubing gets hit hard. And why not 7018 rods? I fab handrails with a little bit thicker tubing than that all the time and if we can’t mig it we use the 7018’s on carbon
i was about to say the same but looked to see if anyone else said it first lol.
@@troberts2009 yea lol it’s safe to say this guy has no clue what he’s doing, I got maybe 5 years experience I’m no expert that’s for damn sure but I got a little bit of common sense lol
This guy definitely still drinks budlight
Man just tryna get the most out he can out of his rods😂
no
That there looks like Mexican Trailer factory welding to me, do the other 3 sides, itll hold for at least 15 years, which will prolly be the life of the product anyway lol
Tack welding don’t burn in man if your calling yourself a welder you should be able to weld stuff that thin with a consistent ark
Lots of haters saying to run a beadbat low amps, i tried at 30amps amd 40 amps and my machine wont arc, just spark, stick and glow, i try to strike an arc to start but it sparks so weak and sticks, this vid helped me weld with 70amps doing tacks on thin metal, thanks!
yea , this tacks are for thin metal and home work , not for some construction , buth some people are just rude 😁😁 thanx for the comment 😎
My favorite part is how he doesn't bother to clean slag and just keeps tackin' away! Im a hobby welder and could teach better than this....
we are waiting ur videos !to show us 🫡🫡🫡
@@migstickwelder1992he's not saying he will make videos, he is just saying that you should improve your content
для качественного и крепкого шва должен быть зазор хотя бы 0,5 мм для тонкого металла
Нафига для такого тонкого металла зазор, корень шва все равно будет, металл то тонкий.
Что это за електрод???
Hola yo comencé hace poco con esto de la soldadura, osea como sería lo que decís?🤔 Por favor explícame mejor!!!
I've been welding for 15 years and this is definitely the best way to do this type of joint
Nice tutorial of how absolutely not to stick weld 🤦
I mean literally everything made wrong in one short clip is some kind of achievement, bravo!
😂 you actually got your mum to mark out circles beside where each tack should go
For a newbie like me and just want to diy non essentially technical and so productive job, this was so great 😂. Thanks so much for sharing ❤
This is the equivalent of dip your toes to check if the waters too cold. Just jump right into it, and you’ll f*ckin’ adjust to it so you wont have to worry about your stick tap dancing. 😃
tach is only to hold til a weld comes along
>Be me
>Watch video
>Be unsure as to whether the weld is good or not
>Come to comments to find out whether thr weld is good or not
>Have to scroll for 5 solid minutes to find an actual explanation that this is a hella good weld
>Video loops that entire time
You didn’t weld, you tried to start welding 15 times.
Pls tell me this is only a demo to start on thin metal, to run a bead on this type of metal your amps, speed and angel must compliment each other to avoid burning holes or overheat the metal and disforrm the end product strength. Remember each welder has hir/ her own style to perfect their trade
I actually looks great good job 😁
Now kids grind it smooth an put a continuous weld so it can be stronger
“Nobody hates welders more than other welders” - Sun Tzu
Welders don’t talk about this because as you let it cool that slag sits at the top and if you keep doing that you’re trapping slag every time you tack it
😂I didn’t catch we welders don’t talk about , but actions speak louder than words
Can't believe you exposed this super secret welding technique..
This is terrible
Most welders dont talk because....shaaaddafakupp🤣🤣🤣
Welders don’t talk about it cause it ain’t a weld, it’s a tack it’s meant to hold a piece of metal together whilst you bind them. It’s not gonna last or hold well.
As soon as he started tacking that thing instead of just welding it, I paused that shit.
Everytime you see a welding video In this TikTok format you already know what time it is.
how to identify structural dangers 101
Porosity calling
Welder's DO talk about it... about how bad it is. That's a good way to get porosity. We talk about the many welding processes that are possible for particular applications, the pros and cons, and we decide which process is best. This one shown is not something that a professional welder would choose for such thin material.
That's not welding, that's just tacking 😂😂😂
🔥❤️🔥 like a bunch of spot welds in a row???❤️🔥🔥
Is that porosity at the end of those tacks?
Boeing: “looks good to me!”
I suppose this could be useful when stick welding sheet metal
That second arc strike made me cry
When u tack, a little air bubble is left behind in the center of the tack. A tack weld is meant to temporarily hold pieces together before u weld it all the way out. All the air bubbles u left all the way down the weld is basically a connect the dots for a crack that will eventually form.
The reason no welders talk about this is because it will kill someone if done wrong, like my guy you were welding over a cooled of puddle… slag trap city
You just blinded me.. the eye doctor is closed
Because the only time welders talk abt this is when they talk about what not to do
stick welding...living in the past.
stick welding is still most used welding technique ,till today
@@migstickwelder1992 stick welding went out with the rotary dial telephone.
Stick welding is history. Slow, expensive and difficilt.
I know why there is a serious shortage of welders in the real world. They are all here commenting
It's really hard to run beads on really thin materials because it can burn a hole through it while still trying to get good penetration too.
Mom I can stick metal together look!! 😂
Wow!!! Amazing best welder!!
Its one of his better spot welds