So far, the comments about going through Customs between the USVI and the US mainland have not been correct. According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection Public affairs officer Jeffrey Quinones (in an online article): "What is seldom known is that the U.S. Virgin Islands is outside what is called 'Customs territory.' Since the acquisition of the Virgin Islands by the U.S. from Denmark (in 1916), by treaty, customs fees are assessed using local law. When traveling to one of the U.S. insular possessions, such as the U.S. Virgin Islands, American Samoa or Guam, you are required to clear Customs and Border Protection and are entitled to a $1,600 duty-free exemption, as long as you are there for 48 hours or more." You also don't need a passport if you are a US citizen. Any government-issued ID is acceptable.
@@GreenerGrass Being from the US Virgin Islands I can verify Rick Poster's explanation but to touch on the topic of the condition of the airport...the USVI was leveled by two category 5+ hurricanes within two weeks of each other in September of 2017 and FEMA funding for recovery has been based on certain priorities. Even though things look a lot better, things like the rebuilding of condemned schools have not started as yet but they are working on it and Covid-19 hasn't done us any favors in that endeavor. Hope you come back soon.
Hey Jeb I’m Julio and I currently work at STX for Envoy Air that handles the ground operations for AA and i am deeply sorry on ur finding on that snack bag that was left onboard in your seat pocket. We strive hard to make sure that the aircraft is cleaned properly per our clean commitment. I am deeply sorry!
Just a note, this is an Oasis 737 max. AA has been going through and updating Oasis jets to "Kodiak". A few minor changes, mostly in first class: -Changed position of bar underneath first class seats for more storage -The divider between first and coach (seen at 4:53) has been extended down so you can't see behind you back to main cabin -More seat back padding -Another drink holder on console between seats
Regarding your video only, honestly I think your voice is so correct for these videos. Secondly, you are always honest, but so respectful. I wish everyone could do that. Meanwhile, I have to be a subscriber, because I have to listen to your next one. Thanks JB.
The answer is yes that this aircraft should have been built. May have been rolled out prematurely. Most likely will be flying an AA 737 Max from EWR to Costa Rica via MIA in September. Very excited.
@@Gez492 while criticism of an aircraft is acceptable, your comment is quite inappropriate - especially to those that lost family members and friends on those flights
@@GrantWMULLEN10 I'm telling it as it is mate. Boeing maybe operating a "Max" charm offensive but I am not buying into their propaganda. As far as I'm concerned they are Guilty of the Corporate murder of 347 human beings. They have tried smearing and denigrating the pilots of Indonesia and Lion Air when they knew there were major issues with this fatally flawed aircraft. The US FAA were complicit and have lost any credibility they may have had, if this had been US citizens on a United or Delta internal flight or a EU flight over London the actions and reaction would have been entirely different. In my view 737Max should have been ordered to scrap and have already had issues with it on its return but instead they are duping passengers into a flying Russian roulette airways. Don't criticise the messenger, if you are genuine about caring that 347 people needlessly lost their lives to Boeing's corporate greed then save your minor outrage for them.
@@RailsandSky okay? Boeing is definetly trailing in the narrowbody...but tell me, who is selling more widebodies on nearly a 1.5:1 scale? Who is selling more cargo aircraft on a 14:1 scale? Who is selling military versions of their commercial aircraft on a 4.2:1 scale?
Some of my friends who work for American’s regional carriers went back to 25 minute turn times last summer despite any logical person knowing that isn’t enough time for a thorough cleaning. Thankfully at Delta we still have had at least 45 minute turns on my schedules since the pandemic started, and usually longer.
Watched this while I was about to take my SWA flight #44 from DAL to PHX it was a 737 MAX 8, Reading the comments and other comments made me so nervous to fly it, to the point where I asked a pilot sitting down and non-reving to PHX in my flight if it’s really safe and I’m his words “oh man you’re in great hands these are one of if not the safest plane out there right now, you have nothing to worry about,” he then went on how our protocols in the states how much different than foreign protocols, and it was probably the most quietest smoothest fly I took in a while, we were also fighting against to wind too; nonetheless it breaks my heart knowing that those people perished on that flight and Ethiopian airlines and flying airlines, my deepest condolences to them and there family’s. Under no conditions should anyone discover how to improve safety of aircrafts through bloodshed, I pray the best for their families and many others who lost their lives in aviation incidents.
The pilots 100% forgot about the seatbelt sign. Happens to me all the time. That likely also explains the absence of flight attendants as they are also generally supposed to remain seated when the belts are on
I live on St. Croix and the airport is currently going through a much needed renovation. There are other bathrooms at the airport, but the one you used has to be the best, despite its unusual appearance. Also, the boarding process was really unusual. I've never had that happen before, but I've learned to get used to the little surprises. I'm happy you enjoyed St. Croix and hope to see you back one day!
I booked a business trip on Alaska from PDX to PHX specifically choosing a 737-800 for both legs of my flight due to the well-documented issues the MAX had when new. As it turned out, my return flight aircraft was changed without any notification and I boarded a MAX. I'll have to say, the MAX is a much nicer aircraft than the nearly 30 year old dash 800. Better seats, overhead switchgear, engine noise/performance, personal device management, and ambient lighting scenes. I'll be switching my flight search criteria in the future looking for MAX aircraft especially after the FAA has given them the green light and my recent experience.
The MAX is one of the most scrutinized planes ever. That alone makes it less risky than others. But as you rightly point out, commercial air travel is far and away the safest way to get from one place to another. There's far more risk going to and from the airport than there is in the air.
@@thomasmccourt215 With all due respect, you seem to be suggesting that you've never made a mistake. As Howard Cosell observed many times, "Hindsight is always 20/20."
Flew with united February 20th from Orlando to Houston on a 737-9 max. It was the best 737 I have ever been on. Comfy seats, nearly silent aircraft. I would fly on a max 9 any day of the week if it weren't airworthy the faa would have kept it grounded.
4:14 "at the behest of Southwest Airlines." Maybe you know something I don't Jeb, but I think it was AA that strong-armed Boeing into building the MAX when they made a giant order for a Boeing re-engined narrow-body that didn't exist yet in 2011, when they were bulk ordering both A320ceos and A320neos. WN is a 737 operator through and through so they were probably expecting a new 737 variant, but they did not make the first order.
AA went with the A320's for a couple of very simple reasons, Airbus was one of the companies that financed their exit from bankruptcy and availability, they get new planes quicker than going with just one manufacturer. And yes WN did make the first order, Dec 13th 2011, next order was NAS Jan 24th 2012.
@@lvthud You are correct on two points. WN made the first order, and AA made the A320 order for valid reasons. I stand corrected on those facts. But it was AA's bulk order of Airbus that forced Boeing into making a re-engined 737. Even though WN made a tentative order on a 737 re-engine, it was still Boeing's intention to make a new plane from scratch, until AA forced Boeing's hand.
@@edmanuelrodriguez8326 I never said that AA sent Boeing to build the MAX, though perhaps at first I was vague in my language. I intended to say that while WN made the first order, it was extremely tentative (WN's first order at least). Boeing was still trying to decide what it wanted to do. I said that AA strong-armed Boeing, or put Boeing in a corner, to where it had no choice but to build it.
@@intergalactic_butterfly but you wrote very well but I think AA is american airlina who forced boeing to build the max is your write I answered you it was not the AA from american airlines it was southwest
Hey Jeb, I'm from the USVI, you need to go through customs because of agricultural policy. This is due to the red soil there being used to grow many things both beneficial and illegal.
USDA screenings and customs are different things entirely, though are often done through the same process. What you are referring to is the USDA screening. Hawaii, PR, and many others require them. Customs are something else entirely. Insular US territories (USVI, Guam, American Samoa, etc.) lie outside of the US Customs Zone and thus retain their local customs policies. When traveling between them there is no immigration check, but there is a customs check.
My understanding this the max was much more due to AA than WN. It was AA (which was all 737 in the size at the time) that was purchasing a number of A320 neos. Boeing attempted to run interference and were told by AA that they would buy half a320 and half 737 if the 737 met certain goals such as the needing the same type rating as the NG and being done by a certain date. WN wanted a new 737 but didn't put the same restrictions, specifically in regards to the fairly rushed production schedule.
Jesus. Those CFM Leap engines look like they're scraping the ground. HUGE. This airframe should've have had its own type rating and not even called a 737. But they did it on the cheap by installing the MCAS system and didn't bother to tell the pilots.
They really should've made a new airframe. I commend Boeing for trying to keep the same airframe for over a half-century, but there are limits to it. The 737 NG was a great economical way to compete with the A320ceo, but that should've been the last series.
Fantastic review! I love your videos! Thank you for providing us with these flight reviews while the rest of us can't fly due to the pandemic. You keep all of our aviation spirits strong!
Yes, I believe that the 737 Max deserves to be built. I think it's a wonderful airplane from what I have heard about it. It just had 1 or two terrible accidents and that doesn't mean it's not flyable anymore. Boeing fixed all the technical issues and since then hasn't had any serious issues to talk about. But it's going to take time for many people to trust flying on that plane again.
Yes that's true but some of them are still flying around the world. Its an issue that Boeing will fix. The only thing is if there are more issues with the airplane and it has to be grounded again it would only hurt Boeing's claim that the plane is safe to fly.
It may look beautiful but I'll still avoid the 737 Max like the plague. 346 souls lost their lives in two crashes that should've never happened, and all because of corporate greed. In protest to the reluctance of our government to prosecute those responsible, I'll continue to boycott any airline who fly these.
My understanding is that they DIDN'T redesign the landing gear. They moved the larger engines out further on the wing so that they could then mount them higher (also retaining the flat bottom of the older NG 737's). You're pictures of the 737 NG and MAX show this different engine placement well. Thus the center of thrust moved some, which was was the reasoning behind MCAS to help maintain the same characteristics of older 737's, therefore pilots wouldn't need separate additional training for the 737 MAX if they already were qualified on the 737.
In hindsight the extreme cost of redesigning the landing gear (meaning the underside entirely) Would outweigh the reputational and economic damage they sustained from the MCAS incidents.
I flew the max last month from Ecuador to Miami American airlines was a bit scared at first but everything was fine haha. Quiet engines and even economy was roomy. I just don't get why they don't have screens for entertainment these are brand new planes
cheaping out forcing us to use their damn useless in flight entertainment apps on our devices and destroying our necks doing so. seriously, I can't stand looking down like that
@@Sassycat757 you figure one plane was going one way at about 450 miles an hour… And the other plane going the opposite direction around the same speed… It makes it look really really fast!
I had the same experience taking American when leaving Dublin, customs was in Ireland and I think it is because the terminal we used was all US based airlines so the terminal may have been payed for an built by the US from the airlines involved.
I wonder, if Boeing could have a do-over knowing what they've had to pay for the problems with the MAX, if they would have instead developed a clean-sheet replacement. I know they wanted to maintain the type certificate to avoid training costs, but now they'll have to provide that training anyway, and they would have been able to avoid the issues that led to the development of MCAS in the first place.
My Island 🏝 St.Croix U.S. Virgin Islands 🇻🇮 But going to the airport is a very terrible and chaotic experience. Poor customer service from certain airlines workers and staff can really hinder the process of making things a little easier for tourists when they travel to the island. The Virgin Islands Tourism Department and Virgin Islands Port Authority needs to see this video!! Thanks for visiting our island and hope you come back soon 😊😊
you really out here showcasing the luxury life for us peasants to live vicariously thru you! damn i really thought the only perk of first class was a bigger seat and priority boarding. i had no idea first class were getting whole ass meals with desserts while us in economy aren't even given the opportunity to purchase snacks most of the time let alone a meal
If you fly Any carrier from Aruba to the USA you must do customs first thid includes Transit passenger from any other carrier . It saves time in US and reduces stress on the customs in America.
Honestly, the Boeing 737 Max is probably the best plane to be used at a bus gate. Just so you can look at those massive engines up close. I would love to board a 737 Max via the air stairs. This should be on every aviation geeks bucket list. It certainly is on my bucket list. I'm visually impaired and I usually get to pre-board. If I ever got the chance to board via the air stairs on a 737 max, I would request to not pre-board just so I could spend as much time as possible down on the ramp staring at those massive engines and taking in the views.
I’ve watched about half of your videos and I love them all. I have to go through the app and like each video. I’ve been watching on the TV and can’t do it there. So be ready for several “Like” notifications.
Rick Poster has the best response. Note, however, that although an insular area IIRC, Puerto Rico does not have the same restrictions. The customs provisions no longer benefit the US Virgin Islands as they did when limits for other places were $200. So the customs zone should be changed.
I flew the 737 max on a united flight. Smooth; so much better ride then the e175 I arrived in just a day before… it was my first time on a max and I was pleasantly surprised.
@@Jack3md I always encourage my friends who fly DFW-ORD to take AA's daily 787/777, and they look at me like I'm crazy. Once onboard and in the PE seats sold as MCE, they admit that not all planes are equal.
@@ktjmitchell7722 How can it be? It still has on-going issues, like electrical now. The trouble is that the aircraft design is so ancient. Boeing fell behind Airbus and it had to try and make a quick fix. Boeing management, its relation to the NTSB - need I say more.
@@RailsandSky literally all aircraft have small issues like that, but because its a MAX it is just pushed way too far by people trying to bash Boeing in anyway possible
I'd be nervous flying on the 737 MAX family but flying is the safest way to travel. Still, two crashes of the same plane six months apart is worrying. Great video, Jeb!
That was prior to the fixes and updates to the plane, all MAX's use two Angle of Attack sensors instead of one, and the software updates always give the pilots full control, overriding the MCAS. It's by far incredibly safe now, those two crashes cannot occur again due to the changes made.
Jebb: Regarding the cleanliness of the aircraft. you have to "remember man because you are in the Caribbean" It is the third world (even American Virgin Islands!). I heard countless hours of this form my son who was in medical school on St Vincent. Like the way you do your travel videos. I enjoy air travel. I am a Southwest loyal customer. (Will probably not eve fly Delta ever again!)
What is seldom known is that the U.S. Virgin Islands is outside what is called 'Customs territory.' Since the acquisition of the Virgin Islands by the U.S. from Denmark [in 1916], by treaty, customs fees are assessed using local law. When traveling to one of the U.S. insular possessions, such as the U.S. Virgin Islands, American Samoa or Guam, you are required to clear Customs and Border Protection and are entitled to a $1,600 duty-free exemption, as long as you are there for 48 hours or more." The duty-free allotment of $1,600 in the Virgin Islands is twice as much as nearby Caribbean countries. In other words, you may want to pack an extra bag for tax-free purchases the next time you head to this tropical paradise. (For more information on duty-free rules in the
Max was not built at the behest of SWA. It was AA that informed Boeing that they were about to place a major order for A320/321 NEO and if Boeing was to offer a comparable product,. that they would consider splitting the order. Max was the only thing Boeing could do in a short time to match Airbus's delivery schedule.
Boeing was pressured to build the max buy the release of the a320 neo. Boeing would have built a 737/757 replacement but could not and they instead built the max. In about 4/7 years I expect Boeing to announce a 797 which will be a plane that has variants that can replace both the 737 and the 757. The new plane with take the technology from the 787 and implement it into the 797. I do expect the max to be a successful plane although maybe not as well as the ng. Prob about 5000-6500 units.
Thanks for the video, beautiful scenery! Qantas domestic business has already returned to full crockery, glassware, choice of meal including hot, wines, tea/coffee and that’s on a 60 minute flight, shame about the AA catering but maybe it will return soon.
Love the video Jeb! Background music was great in particular. I think the answer to whether the MAX should have been built requires highlighting the two perspectives. From an engineering perspective, probably not. The aircraft is based on a 50+ year-old airframe and so this was not the best circumstance in which to stuff technology into it that would compromise its aerodynamics. We've seen what has happened as a result. Nevertheless from a business and economic perspective, it seemed to be a necessary decision to build the MAX. If you're on this channel you're probably already aware of the war between Airbus and Boeing over their respective narrow body jets and Boeing's decision to introduce the MAX upon the announcement of Airbus' A320neo. I personally don't think either perspective is wholly right or wrong but somewhere in the middle. While Boeing must make decisions to remain competitive and desirable to airlines, they must never ever compromise their engineering and safety principles. The MCAS debacle is the price they paid (and continue to pay) for their negligence and oversight in that regard. I'll always remain a big fan of Boeing. I just hope they stop cutting corners and follow best practices. They are critical to the industry.
Was just on a United Flight from Las Vegas to Houston and they actually had coffee service. It was so nice. My American Airlines flight though had just bottled water, no coffee.
To answer the question on whether the 737 max should've been built, it shouldn't have. And Boeing wasn't even planning on doing another re engine to their 737 in the first place. They were developing a brand new clean sheet narrow body plane to replace their 737 NG. But, American Airlines ordering the A320 neo family and then asking Boeing for a re engined 737 to replace the 737 NG put pressure on Boeing hence they ditched a clean sheet narrow body and re engined this dinosaur one more time. Because of that, it was no surprise to me that AAL were the first to resume 737 max flights in the US.
Jeb, Its not real customs, Puerto Rico has the same thing, USFDA checks your baggage to make sure that ur not brining unwanted food or plants back to the mainland because the islands have bugs we dont have on the mainland
You wouldn't be such a fan if someone you loved had perished on those two planes that crashed. What Boeing did was unforgiveable. They gambled with customers lives.
Hey Jeb, I'm Nick, it would probably be good to leave the camera running for a few minutes, as the aircraft is getting pushed back, on the tarmac, & getting set to go down the taxiway. You'd probably understand that if you watch another CZcams show titled: Trip Report. It's this guy, his name is Dylan, whose also a aviation fanatic. 😊✈️. I've been a aviation fanatic pretty much my whole life.
I love these videos, being an aviation-crazed kid. I can't wait for my travel this summer, flying Fairbanks-Anchorage-Seattle-Nashville. Lots of flying, planespotting, and fun to be had! Keep up the good work. Can't wait until you can start flying internationally again!
So far, the comments about going through Customs between the USVI and the US mainland have not been correct. According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection Public affairs officer Jeffrey Quinones (in an online article):
"What is seldom known is that the U.S. Virgin Islands is outside what is called 'Customs territory.' Since the acquisition of the Virgin Islands by the U.S. from Denmark (in 1916), by treaty, customs fees are assessed using local law.
When traveling to one of the U.S. insular possessions, such as the U.S. Virgin Islands, American Samoa or Guam, you are required to clear Customs and Border Protection and are entitled to a $1,600 duty-free exemption, as long as you are there for 48 hours or more."
You also don't need a passport if you are a US citizen. Any government-issued ID is acceptable.
Thanks for the clarification!
@@GreenerGrass Being from the US Virgin Islands I can verify Rick Poster's explanation but to touch on the topic of the condition of the airport...the USVI was leveled by two category 5+ hurricanes within two weeks of each other in September of 2017 and FEMA funding for recovery has been based on certain priorities. Even though things look a lot better, things like the rebuilding of condemned schools have not started as yet but they are working on it and Covid-19 hasn't done us any favors in that endeavor. Hope you come back soon.
Propaganda. How much did AA pay you to promote this unsafe aircraft? You are legally obliged to disclose if they paid you or not...
@@carocarochan What does AA have to do with my comments? If you wanted to make that statement then start your own comment thread.
@@carocarochan he doesn’t get paid unless otherwise stated explicitly in the video
Hey Jeb I’m Julio and I currently work at STX for Envoy Air that handles the ground operations for AA and i am deeply sorry on ur finding on that snack bag that was left onboard in your seat pocket. We strive hard to make sure that the aircraft is cleaned properly per our clean commitment. I am deeply sorry!
Way to go Julio! 👍🏼
Just a note, this is an Oasis 737 max. AA has been going through and updating Oasis jets to "Kodiak". A few minor changes, mostly in first class:
-Changed position of bar underneath first class seats for more storage
-The divider between first and coach (seen at 4:53) has been extended down so you can't see behind you back to main cabin
-More seat back padding
-Another drink holder on console between seats
Regarding your video only, honestly I think your voice is so correct for these videos. Secondly, you are always honest, but so respectful. I wish everyone could do that. Meanwhile, I have to be a subscriber, because I have to listen to your next one. Thanks JB.
The answer is yes that this aircraft should have been built. May have been rolled out prematurely. Most likely will be flying an AA 737 Max from EWR to Costa Rica via MIA in September. Very excited.
I flew the MAX yesterday on Southwest and i must say i was impressed with how smooth and quiet the ride was
Smooth and quiet all the way to the scene of a corporate murder for other passengers
How do you identify a 737 max look for the blood dripping from it
@@Gez492 while criticism of an aircraft is acceptable, your comment is quite inappropriate - especially to those that lost family members and friends on those flights
@@GrantWMULLEN10 I'm telling it as it is mate. Boeing maybe operating a "Max" charm offensive but I am not buying into their propaganda. As far as I'm concerned they are Guilty of the Corporate murder of 347 human beings. They have tried smearing and denigrating the pilots of Indonesia and Lion Air when they knew there were major issues with this fatally flawed aircraft. The US FAA were complicit and have lost any credibility they may have had, if this had been US citizens on a United or Delta internal flight or a EU flight over London the actions and reaction would have been entirely different. In my view 737Max should have been ordered to scrap and have already had issues with it on its return but instead they are duping passengers into a flying Russian roulette airways. Don't criticise the messenger, if you are genuine about caring that 347 people needlessly lost their lives to Boeing's corporate greed then save your minor outrage for them.
What about the safety sir. You know what happened to passengers of Ethiopian and lion air 737 max. It was a smooth and quiet ride to heaven sir.
Yes. 737 Max is just fine.
Awesome video. I recently flew the MAX 9 on United First Class, it was a very comfortable aircraft :)
You can have the "comfort." I'll take the safety on an Airbus.
The MAX is more likely safer than any Airbus plane now
@@ktjmitchell7722 You are really talking crap now. Take a look at the sales of both manufacturers.
@@RailsandSky okay? Boeing is definetly trailing in the narrowbody...but tell me, who is selling more widebodies on nearly a 1.5:1 scale? Who is selling more cargo aircraft on a 14:1 scale? Who is selling military versions of their commercial aircraft on a 4.2:1 scale?
@@ktjmitchell7722 there is no evidence to confirm that. It's just speculation.
Some of my friends who work for American’s regional carriers went back to 25 minute turn times last summer despite any logical person knowing that isn’t enough time for a thorough cleaning. Thankfully at Delta we still have had at least 45 minute turns on my schedules since the pandemic started, and usually longer.
I went on a 737 Max-8 from CMH to PHX on southwest and it was very quiet and fast and I definitely recommend it if you ever do.
Watched this while I was about to take my SWA flight #44 from DAL to PHX it was a 737 MAX 8, Reading the comments and other comments made me so nervous to fly it, to the point where I asked a pilot sitting down and non-reving to PHX in my flight if it’s really safe and I’m his words “oh man you’re in great hands these are one of if not the safest plane out there right now, you have nothing to worry about,” he then went on how our protocols in the states how much different than foreign protocols, and it was probably the most quietest smoothest fly I took in a while, we were also fighting against to wind too;
nonetheless it breaks my heart knowing that those people perished on that flight and Ethiopian airlines and flying airlines, my deepest condolences to them and there family’s. Under no conditions should anyone discover how to improve safety of aircrafts through bloodshed, I pray the best for their families and many others who lost their lives in aviation incidents.
Delta Airlines finally brought back food and drink service on their flights!!!
Hot meal service, like the good ole days in 2019?
@@christravels5218 yup aka renaissance of air travel now until the end of April
I flew delta one lsx-jfk on 4/23 and still snack boxes.
buy your own food and snacks before you get on the flight!!!!!!
The pilots 100% forgot about the seatbelt sign. Happens to me all the time. That likely also explains the absence of flight attendants as they are also generally supposed to remain seated when the belts are on
I live on St. Croix and the airport is currently going through a much needed renovation. There are other bathrooms at the airport, but the one you used has to be the best, despite its unusual appearance. Also, the boarding process was really unusual. I've never had that happen before, but I've learned to get used to the little surprises. I'm happy you enjoyed St. Croix and hope to see you back one day!
You're a brave man flying on the 737 MAX
Or he’s just educated
I booked a business trip on Alaska from PDX to PHX specifically choosing a 737-800 for both legs of my flight due to the well-documented issues the MAX had when new. As it turned out, my return flight aircraft was changed without any notification and I boarded a MAX. I'll have to say, the MAX is a much nicer aircraft than the nearly 30 year old dash 800. Better seats, overhead switchgear, engine noise/performance, personal device management, and ambient lighting scenes. I'll be switching my flight search criteria in the future looking for MAX aircraft especially after the FAA has given them the green light and my recent experience.
The MAX is one of the most scrutinized planes ever. That alone makes it less risky than others. But as you rightly point out, commercial air travel is far and away the safest way to get from one place to another. There's far more risk going to and from the airport than there is in the air.
My only thought is if it had been properly "scrutinised" prior to being introduced 346 people will still be alive
@@thomasmccourt215
With all due respect, you seem to be suggesting that you've never made a mistake. As Howard Cosell observed many times, "Hindsight is always 20/20."
I flew on a MAX yesterday and loved it
Glad you were able to record where I live ST.Croix🇻🇮🇻🇮🇻🇮
Flew with united February 20th from Orlando to Houston on a 737-9 max. It was the best 737 I have ever been on. Comfy seats, nearly silent aircraft. I would fly on a max 9 any day of the week if it weren't airworthy the faa would have kept it grounded.
oh ya how come 2 crashed then?
4:14 "at the behest of Southwest Airlines." Maybe you know something I don't Jeb, but I think it was AA that strong-armed Boeing into building the MAX when they made a giant order for a Boeing re-engined narrow-body that didn't exist yet in 2011, when they were bulk ordering both A320ceos and A320neos. WN is a 737 operator through and through so they were probably expecting a new 737 variant, but they did not make the first order.
AA went with the A320's for a couple of very simple reasons, Airbus was one of the companies that financed their exit from bankruptcy and availability, they get new planes quicker than going with just one manufacturer. And yes WN did make the first order, Dec 13th 2011, next order was NAS Jan 24th 2012.
I understand it was not american airlines that sent boeing to build the max, it was southwest airlines that sent boeing to build the 737max
@@lvthud You are correct on two points. WN made the first order, and AA made the A320 order for valid reasons. I stand corrected on those facts. But it was AA's bulk order of Airbus that forced Boeing into making a re-engined 737. Even though WN made a tentative order on a 737 re-engine, it was still Boeing's intention to make a new plane from scratch, until AA forced Boeing's hand.
@@edmanuelrodriguez8326 I never said that AA sent Boeing to build the MAX, though perhaps at first I was vague in my language. I intended to say that while WN made the first order, it was extremely tentative (WN's first order at least). Boeing was still trying to decide what it wanted to do. I said that AA strong-armed Boeing, or put Boeing in a corner, to where it had no choice but to build it.
@@intergalactic_butterfly but you wrote very well but I think AA is american airlina who forced boeing to build the max is your write I answered you it was not the AA from american airlines it was southwest
Hey Jeb, I'm from the USVI, you need to go through customs because of agricultural policy. This is due to the red soil there being used to grow many things both beneficial and illegal.
Thank you. That makes sense. Appreciate you watching and taking the time to explain!
Yeah, they also have it in Hawaii
And in Puerto Rico, but they just call it USDA and takes like 30 seconds to ge the sticker
Interesting
USDA screenings and customs are different things entirely, though are often done through the same process. What you are referring to is the USDA screening. Hawaii, PR, and many others require them. Customs are something else entirely.
Insular US territories (USVI, Guam, American Samoa, etc.) lie outside of the US Customs Zone and thus retain their local customs policies. When traveling between them there is no immigration check, but there is a customs check.
My understanding this the max was much more due to AA than WN. It was AA (which was all 737 in the size at the time) that was purchasing a number of A320 neos. Boeing attempted to run interference and were told by AA that they would buy half a320 and half 737 if the 737 met certain goals such as the needing the same type rating as the NG and being done by a certain date.
WN wanted a new 737 but didn't put the same restrictions, specifically in regards to the fairly rushed production schedule.
Jesus. Those CFM Leap engines look like they're scraping the ground. HUGE. This airframe should've have had its own type rating and not even called a 737. But they did it on the cheap by installing the MCAS system and didn't bother to tell the pilots.
They really should've made a new airframe. I commend Boeing for trying to keep the same airframe for over a half-century, but there are limits to it. The 737 NG was a great economical way to compete with the A320ceo, but that should've been the last series.
Evan Wilson I could not agree more!
Fantastic review! I love your videos! Thank you for providing us with these flight reviews while the rest of us can't fly due to the pandemic. You keep all of our aviation spirits strong!
I've been on a 737 MAX before it was grounded. The blue light was great as it was a nighttime flight.
Yes, I believe that the 737 Max deserves to be built. I think it's a wonderful airplane from what I have heard about it. It just had 1 or two terrible accidents and that doesn't mean it's not flyable anymore. Boeing fixed all the technical issues and since then hasn't had any serious issues to talk about. But it's going to take time for many people to trust flying on that plane again.
except that a load of them have just been grounded again due to electrical faults
Yes that's true but some of them are still flying around the world. Its an issue that Boeing will fix. The only thing is if there are more issues with the airplane and it has to be grounded again it would only hurt Boeing's claim that the plane is safe to fly.
@@acl1976 possible faults. It’s not all the max planes
It may look beautiful but I'll still avoid the 737 Max like the plague. 346 souls lost their lives in two crashes that should've never happened, and all because of corporate greed. In protest to the reluctance of our government to prosecute those responsible, I'll continue to boycott any airline who fly these.
My understanding is that they DIDN'T redesign the landing gear. They moved the larger engines out further on the wing so that they could then mount them higher (also retaining the flat bottom of the older NG 737's). You're pictures of the 737 NG and MAX show this different engine placement well. Thus the center of thrust moved some, which was was the reasoning behind MCAS to help maintain the same characteristics of older 737's, therefore pilots wouldn't need separate additional training for the 737 MAX if they already were qualified on the 737.
In hindsight the extreme cost of redesigning the landing gear (meaning the underside entirely) Would outweigh the reputational and economic damage they sustained from the MCAS incidents.
I flew the max last month from Ecuador to Miami American airlines was a bit scared at first but everything was fine haha. Quiet engines and even economy was roomy. I just don't get why they don't have screens for entertainment these are brand new planes
cheaping out forcing us to use their damn useless in flight entertainment apps on our devices and destroying our necks doing so. seriously, I can't stand looking down like that
Just a change on the term tail cone that's actually the APU exhaust port 😉 and I'm qualified to turn that APU on and off which is beautiful
We call them tail cones, but you are right it is where the APU exhaust comes out
9:34 LOVE the shot of the JetBlue plane flying by over the Caribbean!
That was pretty cool. He or she was flying..lol
@@Sassycat757 you figure one plane was going one way at about 450 miles an hour… And the other plane going the opposite direction around the same speed… It makes it look really really fast!
I had the same experience taking American when leaving Dublin, customs was in Ireland and I think it is because the terminal we used was all US based airlines so the terminal may have been payed for an built by the US from the airlines involved.
I wonder, if Boeing could have a do-over knowing what they've had to pay for the problems with the MAX, if they would have instead developed a clean-sheet replacement. I know they wanted to maintain the type certificate to avoid training costs, but now they'll have to provide that training anyway, and they would have been able to avoid the issues that led to the development of MCAS in the first place.
My flight on the oneworld partner Alaska air today was amazing. Had incredible Mountain View’s in Alaska my home!
I've flown on the MAX 8 about 40 times now. No issues.
I had to see if you flew a Boeing Max. Glad there were no issues.
I work for AA in AUS and man, so many new routes, so many more PAX, AA is doing so much to over come!!
Can agree, being the fueler at AUS. Well not me personally, I usually fuel at the United gates lol.
@@marcusbean6003 I feel that, it’s just in general from AA, and southwest, AUS is getting busy
Your creative director deserves a round of applause!!
MAX is awesome! 4 rides since the FAA cleared it and will ride it anyday.
You should most definitely return to the island of St. Croix again. The airport terminal has updated and looks better than EVER before.
My Island 🏝 St.Croix U.S. Virgin Islands 🇻🇮 But going to the airport is a very terrible and chaotic experience. Poor customer service from certain airlines workers and staff can really hinder the process of making things a little easier for tourists when they travel to the island. The Virgin Islands Tourism Department and Virgin Islands Port Authority needs to see this video!! Thanks for visiting our island and hope you come back soon 😊😊
you really out here showcasing the luxury life for us peasants to live vicariously thru you! damn i really thought the only perk of first class was a bigger seat and priority boarding. i had no idea first class were getting whole ass meals with desserts while us in economy aren't even given the opportunity to purchase snacks most of the time let alone a meal
Those window views are stunning 🤩
If you fly Any carrier from Aruba to the USA you must do customs first thid includes Transit passenger from any other carrier .
It saves time in US and reduces stress on the customs in America.
Honestly, the Boeing 737 Max is probably the best plane to be used at a bus gate. Just so you can look at those massive engines up close. I would love to board a 737 Max via the air stairs.
This should be on every aviation geeks bucket list. It certainly is on my bucket list.
I'm visually impaired and I usually get to pre-board. If I ever got the chance to board via the air stairs on a 737 max, I would request to not pre-board just so I could spend as much time as possible down on the ramp staring at those massive engines and taking in the views.
I’ve watched about half of your videos and I love them all. I have to go through the app and like each video. I’ve been watching on the TV and can’t do it there. So be ready for several “Like” notifications.
Rick Poster has the best response. Note, however, that although an insular area IIRC, Puerto Rico does not have the same restrictions.
The customs provisions no longer benefit the US Virgin Islands as they did when limits for other places were $200. So the customs zone should be changed.
Well that bathroom at St. Croix airport was quite something!
Never getting on a Max, but nice video. Thank you.
Jeb,
By having US customs pre-clearance in St. Croix allows you to arrive as a domestic passenger in Miami which is more convenient for everyone.
I work for American Airlines
I Nonreved on it from PHX TO JFK and experienced it in coach Emergency Row
It’s also neat that at the very end you caught the AA B737-800 in the TWA heritage livery, I’d love to ride that one day!
always bring your own food and snacks on a flight!!!
Feces too !
After being on 6 flights on American in the last 10 days between MIA/UVF/ANU & CUN, there is little cleaning happening never mind sanitizing
I fly in American 737 max the best about 12 times New York Chicago nices services the planes is confortable.never have problems.the best air planes.
Yesterday I was supposed to fly on a 737 Max but it was grounded due to something in the wing. Then I got moved to a 737-800 so I'm sad
I flew the 737 max on a united flight. Smooth; so much better ride then the e175 I arrived in just a day before… it was my first time on a max and I was pleasantly surprised.
This airport is going through it 😭😂😂
“it’s just a stage”
LOL!
My flight got canceled just now after waiting 5 hours welp I will have to try Tuesday but anyways this really made me feel better
YAY new max
Very detailed review on 737max but I still prefer flying on a321neo
I sorta figured that the average passenger wouldn’t know the different between the max or any other 737s
The majority of passengers are not avgeeks, and have no care in the world about the type of plane
@@Jack3md true.
@@Jack3md I always encourage my friends who fly DFW-ORD to take AA's daily 787/777, and they look at me like I'm crazy. Once onboard and in the PE seats sold as MCE, they admit that not all planes are equal.
Don’t forget to rate the other US airlines with 737max aircraft like Southwest Airlines, United Airlines, and Alaska Airlines.
I flew a 737-max 8 in January 2019 on the now defunct Jet Airways in India. I am flying the UA 737-max next week !
Let’s goooo the 737 MAX is making a comeback!
First class isn’t worth it for domestic flights unless it’s a free upgrade or paid with points.
ya it's better on international flights
Jeb…I’m a flight attendant and always have my eye out for you! You are my favourite travel influencer. Love your videos
What a great airplane. I am very glad to see it back in the air.
You are joking. It's a flying death bed.
No, you are joking, it’s one of the safest aircraft now
@@ktjmitchell7722 How can it be? It still has on-going issues, like electrical now. The trouble is that the aircraft design is so ancient. Boeing fell behind Airbus and it had to try and make a quick fix. Boeing management, its relation to the NTSB - need I say more.
@@RailsandSky literally all aircraft have small issues like that, but because its a MAX it is just pushed way too far by people trying to bash Boeing in anyway possible
@@RailsandSky you don’t know 💩
Love the MAX!
Hope they have the avionics fix AND trained the flight crew...
It should be illegal to not identify the equipment type in full. Especially on the EIC.
I really love this fantastic, modern-designed cabin. Seats are awesome, too!
If we knew where Jeb’s house was we should walk up to his house shouting, Jeb is the Best!
Just flew on a max , first time first class. It was awesome.
I’m booked for my first MAX flight May 3rd!
I will only go on American Airlines… and the last few trips I have flown I have gone first class. Treated my Sophomore in high school in October
I'd be nervous flying on the 737 MAX family but flying is the safest way to travel. Still, two crashes of the same plane six months apart is worrying. Great video, Jeb!
That was prior to the fixes and updates to the plane, all MAX's use two Angle of Attack sensors instead of one, and the software updates always give the pilots full control, overriding the MCAS. It's by far incredibly safe now, those two crashes cannot occur again due to the changes made.
Wow, Jeb was that a real-time flight crossover it looked like it really flew past. Yes pun intended
I love the Buccaneer Hotel in St Croix.
Jebb: Regarding the cleanliness of the aircraft. you have to "remember man because you are in the Caribbean" It is the third world (even American Virgin Islands!). I heard countless hours of this form my son who was in medical school on St Vincent. Like the way you do your travel videos. I enjoy air travel. I am a Southwest loyal customer. (Will probably not eve fly Delta ever again!)
Ryan Air and Maxes. Love it ❤️
What is seldom known is that the U.S. Virgin Islands is outside what is called 'Customs territory.' Since the acquisition of the Virgin Islands by the U.S. from Denmark [in 1916], by treaty, customs fees are assessed using local law.
When traveling to one of the U.S. insular possessions, such as the U.S. Virgin Islands, American Samoa or Guam, you are required to clear Customs and Border Protection and are entitled to a $1,600 duty-free exemption, as long as you are there for 48 hours or more."
The duty-free allotment of $1,600 in the Virgin Islands is twice as much as nearby Caribbean countries. In other words, you may want to pack an extra bag for tax-free purchases the next time you head to this tropical paradise. (For more information on duty-free rules in the
been on them a few times, no problems
Max was not built at the behest of SWA. It was AA that informed Boeing that they were about to place a major order for A320/321 NEO and if Boeing was to offer a comparable product,. that they would consider splitting the order. Max was the only thing Boeing could do in a short time to match Airbus's delivery schedule.
Boeing was pressured to build the max buy the release of the a320 neo. Boeing would have built a 737/757 replacement but could not and they instead built the max. In about 4/7 years I expect Boeing to announce a 797 which will be a plane that has variants that can replace both the 737 and the 757. The new plane with take the technology from the 787 and implement it into the 797. I do expect the max to be a successful plane although maybe not as well as the ng. Prob about 5000-6500 units.
Jeb! U must go to St Thomas to get the true USVI experience man! ❤️💪🍻 great content
Also St.John, that's also an experience.
Thanks for the video, beautiful scenery! Qantas domestic business has already returned to full crockery, glassware, choice of meal including hot, wines, tea/coffee and that’s on a 60 minute flight, shame about the AA catering but maybe it will return soon.
Build the Max - of course! Good basic platform, now with improved performance.
I had flown 2 times in 737 Max business class on Jet Airways more than 2 years back . The earlier business class of Jet Airways was much better.
Love the video Jeb! Background music was great in particular.
I think the answer to whether the MAX should have been built requires highlighting the two perspectives.
From an engineering perspective, probably not. The aircraft is based on a 50+ year-old airframe and so this was not the best circumstance in which to stuff technology into it that would compromise its aerodynamics. We've seen what has happened as a result.
Nevertheless from a business and economic perspective, it seemed to be a necessary decision to build the MAX. If you're on this channel you're probably already aware of the war between Airbus and Boeing over their respective narrow body jets and Boeing's decision to introduce the MAX upon the announcement of Airbus' A320neo.
I personally don't think either perspective is wholly right or wrong but somewhere in the middle. While Boeing must make decisions to remain competitive and desirable to airlines, they must never ever compromise their engineering and safety principles. The MCAS debacle is the price they paid (and continue to pay) for their negligence and oversight in that regard.
I'll always remain a big fan of Boeing. I just hope they stop cutting corners and follow best practices. They are critical to the industry.
I would watch this video now, but I need something to watch at school for lunch tomorrow lol
Was just on a United Flight from Las Vegas to Houston and they actually had coffee service. It was so nice. My American Airlines flight though had just bottled water, no coffee.
Love the script you read out at 9:05. Obviously, boeing have given you some money
To answer the question on whether the 737 max should've been built, it shouldn't have. And Boeing wasn't even planning on doing another re engine to their 737 in the first place. They were developing a brand new clean sheet narrow body plane to replace their 737 NG. But, American Airlines ordering the A320 neo family and then asking Boeing for a re engined 737 to replace the 737 NG put pressure on Boeing hence they ditched a clean sheet narrow body and re engined this dinosaur one more time. Because of that, it was no surprise to me that AAL were the first to resume 737 max flights in the US.
Jeb, Its not real customs, Puerto Rico has the same thing, USFDA checks your baggage to make sure that ur not brining unwanted food or plants back to the mainland because the islands
have bugs we dont have on the mainland
Thats awesome you was in st croix, i am watching this video in st thomas! I flew on the 737 MAX 8 in January. Very nice.
I’m a MAX fan, and I have no worries flying it
You wouldn't be such a fan if someone you loved had perished on those two planes that crashed. What Boeing did was unforgiveable. They gambled with customers lives.
@@twobins2060 🤡
Hey Jeb, I'm Nick, it would probably be good to leave the camera running for a few minutes, as the aircraft is getting pushed back, on the tarmac, & getting set to go down the taxiway. You'd probably understand that if you watch another CZcams show titled: Trip Report. It's this guy, his name is Dylan, whose also a aviation fanatic. 😊✈️. I've been a aviation fanatic pretty much my whole life.
I flew American to SJU on the 737 MAX from MIA
I love these videos, being an aviation-crazed kid. I can't wait for my travel this summer, flying Fairbanks-Anchorage-Seattle-Nashville. Lots of flying, planespotting, and fun to be had! Keep up the good work. Can't wait until you can start flying internationally again!
Only been on one Max flight so far. IST-FCO on a Turkish 737MAX8. Great flight!