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Animation isn't a genre, it's a medium. The entire concept of a "best animated picture" award shows how much the academy doesn't respect or understand what animation is
I wholeheartedly agree!
Legit like “best animated” could be an anime movie, a cartoon movie like boss baby, an adult animated film, a horror animated film.. like those are all vastly different movies, they only share their medium.. it would be like having a “best movies with human actors”.. that’s such a broad spectrum that fits several things.
@@KingOfGaymes if they don't want to include animation among traditional film (because animation would win 9/10 awards) then I would fully support having an entire show exclusively dedicated to animation
@@KingOfGaymes yep. And for some reason 99% of these films are still from the 3/4 major studios out there, I guess Ghibli being the only major exception. Let's say... "best film with music in it", or "best film with sky". Oscars are a sham.
@@LylaTheLich A fully animation centered award show would be incredible, I imagine the characters from the movies being in the audience like how they used to do
Animation was not originally "intended for children". That was a stigma that was created by Hannah Barbera in the 70s when they effectively cornered the market of televised animation with nonstop clones and copies of the same shows. Why? Because it was cheap to recycle backgrounds and cels from previous episodes using the same run cycles.
And that's why it continues to have this stigma. Easier to poorly pay animators by constantly treating animation like it doesn't matter.
I would say it was even earlier. In the 60s, cheap cartoons were already used in tv ads to sell cereal to children. All in all, the cheapness and banality of these cartoons erased respect for animation in the collective mind. The poor impression that lots of adults hold for children to this day might have helped to settle this sentiment
@@celestee2264 100 percent agree but even more so with Disney
@@celestee2264 Honestly that's a good point. But I feel the dozens of Scooby-Doo clones really didn't help.
actually around when animation was really starting to be born in the 30s with black and white cartoons, they were originally for adults to watch in theatre’s even if they weren't matured or had bad language it was still targeted to adults for animation to create an income. the characters being what we're most familiar with like oswald, mickey, bugs, daffy, porky, felix, and others that have been forgotten.
While it didn't get "Best Animation" in the Oscars, it did get 8 ANNIE AWARDS! Which included "Best Animated Film" (Annie Awards are basically the Oscar for animated movies)
Yeah, which is why I believe Encanto also deserved the Oscar accolades and why people just aren’t getting they both deserve a cut of how good they are.
@@thelanktheist2626 yeah, that's true. I still would prefer Mitchell's to win, but it's more that I saw it first and had more of a connection emotionally, but I just saw Encanto for the first time a few days ago and yeah, film's great!
@@andrefelipe7865 Well, the people saying Mitchell’s should’ve won are the same people saying the Oscars suck and are bad, which yes the Oscars suck and are bad, but it’s the hypocrisy, you know? Encanto won a few best animated films, but one of the most falsely prestigious ones that don’t even matter is the one that sends them into a frenzy.
@@thelanktheist2626 For me at least, I'm okay with it winning, but as I said, I preferred the Mitchells, and this combined with the decline in quality of the Oscar (to me, at least, not speaking for others) just makes me want to complain about, even if it's not the best or smartest move
@@thelanktheist2626 most of the frustration isn’t coming from Encanto winning in the Oscars, but more so that the Oscars doesn’t really care about animation as a whole. Like Pig said Encanto is by no means a bad movie and it winning the Oscars isn’t something bad.
When Boss Baby won more awards than A Silent Voice, I was convinced the Oscar’s was garbo for animations.
I’m sorry, what!?!??!! A Silent Voice literally had me crying like a baby back bitch, and it’s got less awards than WHAT!!?!??
I don't follow award ceremonies but god damn when I heard that, it really pissed me off. :/
A slient voice was a beautiful heart wrenching film too! it actually makes you feel emotions other than "lol thats funny" or "oh not a bad guy" because instead of having villians it just focused on real world topics like hearing problmes, depression, anxiety etc and working through those issues in an understanding way. whilst boss baby was mostly toilet humor and goofyness (not saying boss baby was bad as i do enjoy it and its sequal im just saying that in comparison to an animation like a silent voice it shouldnt have been a competition between the two. as a silent voice should have been in its own catergory to be properly rated as most people watching the oscars who did vote are more opt to vote the mainstream movie over the lesser known anime movie of a completely different genre. the oscars are going to more opt to push movies they want to be watched rather than movies made by lesser known companies that dont have the amount of backing most block busters are)
You’re saying boss baby didn’t deserve the awards? Boss baby defined a generation and single handedly ended racism.
@@Zoo77 what was the plot again?
Oh yeah, it's about "being a better big brother to a baby"
Very compeling and well written
Can't believe it's made by the same company that made shrek and httyd
Agree so hard with animation not being for kids. It's a form of media, not a genre.
Not just media, it’s art!
@@TheBearWithOrangeFur Exactly and precisely
Imagine Coco, Spirited Away, Over the Garden Wall the same genre as Sausage Party, Rick and Morty, Bojack Horseman
tokyo ghoul an excellent example of animation not meant for kids
there should be multiple genres like kids animation and anime and best nonverbal storytelling through animation
Animation in general needs way more respect
Hey, Vali.
You can prove that statement by saying it in 12 different voices.
@@AnimationFanboy2k4 It's Vail not Vali
So does the main writer and director of this movie, Michael Rianda! He wrote and directed The Mitchells versus the Machines, but the marketing only focused on the producers, Christopher Miller and Phil Lord's previous work in animated films from Sony and Warner Brothers. You were a HUGE fanatic of Gravity Falls when it aired new episodes and you made plenty of videos speculating about things or predicting what would happen in the next episode to come. You should be all over this bad news related to a film you covered in several videos when it first came out, when it is written and directed by somebody with a name and a voice that YOU would recognize from being a lesser-known writer/voice actor in Gravity Falls like Alex Hirsch! If you did not know that the name Michael Rianda exists, then who was the writer, the director, and the voice of Aaron Mitchell in The Mitchells versus the Machines? Few people ever talk about Michael Rianda in all of this, Gravity Falls or Mitchells versus The Machines. Who is he, Bruno Madrigal?
the "animation is for kids" thing was even more of a slap in the face because I'm pretty sure one of the movies nominated was literally a masterpiece & a true story of a refugee escaping violence/war, but animated to show his narration, experiences, and feelings throughout the experience. It's only pg-13 but ffs those are big topics and pg-13 is still not for little kids😭😭 the other stuff is enjoyable for adults too, but that especially... wow. I didn't see it but I've heard good things.
And instead of THAT movie, we got a movie about FUCKING COLOMBIA instead! Like, I get that it's about generational trauma, but fuck that movie, ESPECIALLY when the other movies were WAY better than a movie about bootleg equador.
@@notmariolevi2863 dude, what's your problem with colombia?
flee was done in animation for practical uses, and not just for the sake of it. it’s so that the identity of the protagonist remains unknown due to the nature of the documentary. the people that made flee didn’t just think that “oh let’s animate this so that kids would try to watch it as well”. it’s 2022 and this stigma on animation still exists smh
@@notmariolevi2863 what-
@@notmariolevi2863 Sounds more like a you problem and projecting then anything.
I am an animator, and I originally heard the generalization of the speech, "animation is for kids to enjoy and for parents to endure", by people on twitter and tiktok. At first I though that someone at the Oscars said that exact quote and I was just mad and annoyed.
But then I actually saw what was actually said and I started to cry. It made me feel as if all of the work that I have done or will do will only be background noise to adults and time wasters for kids.
In the moment I felt ashamed of my career choice, but now I'm more determined to improve my skills in spite of what others may think.
The work that I do to improve my animation and story telling skills matter and I hope that one day I'll create something that will inspire others to do the same.
If someone says that my interests is a cheap kids gimmick, I just wouldn’t take them seriously.
Well done animation is as intelligent if not more intelligent than the bulk of sitcoms. And "kids stuff" can't use cheap vulgarity, sex, and drug jokes as "humor" and has to limit the potty humor or parents will get upset. And skilled artists can make great visuals.
@@travissmith2848 yep but according to those princesses: movies like flee, I lost my body, loving Vincent and Anomalisa are the peak of kids entertainment.
those people are dumb anyways. idk if my words will help but animation is so amazing, the skill and years of training and broken back that go into it is honestly just so insane, animation captures things that live actions can never and i always turn to animations when i feel sad
what a goat
I think what’s cool about this movie is that it does representation perfectly. It’s not a selling point like Disney movies.
Disney has done representation properly, but like everything else they do, they end up virtue signaling for the sake of profit, because they want to capitalize on the representation instead of just letting it speak for itself.
Yeah they treat it as something that's just part of life rather than "look at us we have an lgbtq character"
it's nice how they just went "oh yeah if you didn't know she's also a lesbian, okay anyway back to her family".
I keep wondering, is Katie actually the first LGBT protagonist in a mainstream animated film? Y'know, one that's actually canonically stated as such
@@Shalalacls Ah! Hmm...
I don’t understand why people act surprised when I mention among my favorite movies : Megamind, Mitchell and the machines, Spiderverse, Rango and The Lego Movie… not only the stories are visually stimulating but the stories moved me or gave me such an enjoyable moment that I was almost thankful (feeling I don’t remember having with a live action in a while), the dialogues were on point and there’s so much passion going behind it there’s no way not to love them ! And I definitely feel like another movie could’ve won best animated picture but Disney/Pixar has the academy in the palm of their hand it seems.. Plus I showed my two 7 years old cousins this movie (and Moana and that Chinese/modern version of Aladdin on Netflix) and they were barely interested so what do they mean animation is for kids 💀
You have taste. Those are some of my favorite movies
Yo you remember Rango?
That’s pretty based
@@acemarvel1564 what does “based” mean ? I’m not a native english speaker and I don’t understand the meaning here 😂
3/5 of those movies are actually made by the same people! Mitchells vs the Machines, Spider-Verse, and the Lego Movie were all made in some form or another by Phil Lord and Christopher Miller! I recommend Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs, it's also by them.
@@oranplan1630 I know I love the mind of Lord and Miller !! Cloudy with a chance of meatballs is so underrated as well I need to watch it again soon
Glad to see you’re talking about this movie because as an artist, I LOVE animation. The medium can do so much that live action can’t, and the different art styles bring so much to the table.
I loved this movie immensely, and really related to Katie and Rick's struggle to understand each other. Plus, I loved how they causally implied that Katie was gay, showing that it's not a big deal.
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Trina darling, you are *everywhere*
When did they imply she was gay?
@@justeasygaming5795 katie has a gay flag pin on her hoodie, and her mom asks her questions about a girl she met (implying that there's some form of romantic interest there)
I've watched this movie multiple times and it's never been close to saying that, she's just an akward teen with the want of being accepted and understood by her parents not her being gay.
The Oscar’s was a pain with the hole kids watch animated films things. But over all great review I haven’t gotten around to watching this film but I might have to.
the only good part was being angry at Amy Meerschaum and watching famous youtuber Will Smith slap a zebra
@@Dingy-doodles agree I love seeing a fish slapping a zebra that was the only part that brought the Oscar’s back for 2 seconds
Here Timmy here’s Rick and morty since animation can only be for kids and just kids only there’s nothing wrong with this
I really wanna watch this movie too, it sounds frickin amazing!
Animation wasn't focused on kids at the start. It was entertainment for _all ages._ To completely shorten the history, when it veered towards more risqué animations, the government and religious sentiment at the time attacked it leading to an overcorrection into kid- and family-friendly content.
Wasnt this also the case with comics until the 80s?
@@jonathand.t.5051 From what I remember, you are absolutely correct.
Man religion really does ruin everything it reaches
Or stuff like Fantasia just failed spectacularly in terms of making $$$
I love that the giant Godzilla furby has a normal voice and not super low since the regular sized ones have high pitched voices
Wow they really got all the little details down
I love how Aaron said “what’s a furby” it made me feel old!😂
I really like how the mom was the perfect level of extra. like some movies go overboard but she was just lively and fun to watch
I agree with you 100%until she went "incredible hulk" which ripped me right out of the movie. It was not as charming for me as it was for everyone else as I bsolutel loved her up until that point.
A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THE HAIR, REST IN PEACE
Finally someone said it!!!
@@kikiuovaeriso903 if anybody is gonna say anything about the hair its me, mine is 3.5 feet long
Thought for a second Bionic was gonna pull a Cr1tikal and let his hair grow out
@@ARG0T idk about that
NO ONE IS SAYING IT
Your commentary and editing is so beautiful.
Truthfully though this movie truly shows how communication and differences between each person are not only normal but it's so heartwarming and entertaining. In addition to some representation without it being the main focus of a character it's just calmly normalized.
But as for the animation with main stream public in general everything is targeted towards children for the safety of revenue. And most of the times looks the same unless it's a series online that expands the stylization because there are no limits to creativity. As an aspiring animator myself it's understandable for people to go into animation with that safety blanket but it's not the only form of expression animation can bring with topics that can be discussed visually. Hell even CN or Disney animation tackles adult topics like Infinity Train, Amphibia, Owl House.
Part of it too is that giving movies with these styles Oscar wins means that we're encouraging a new era of animation- one where people are less afraid to experiment with style, especially when it comes to CGI. Spider-Verse was praised for it's animation, and I'm sure that'll encourage companies in the future to try new things. Hell, Pixar released Turning Red recently, and that's somewhat different from the typical 'non-offensive' CGI we see in, for example, Encanto.
I said it before, I'll say it again, Lord Miller got that TOUCH. So much of what they make is just absolutely wonderful. Clone High, Cloud with a chance of meatballs, Lego Movie(s), Into the Spiderverse, and now Mitchells versus the Machines. I absolutely simp for that duo.
Two things:
One, Mitchells verse the Machines great
Two: congrats on the house!
Animation needs way better recognition. All my favorite shows and movies are animated, and I really don’t believe it’s even close to being “just for kids” since they all have themes and messages kids can’t understand because they don’t have the experiences needed to understand them.
The dad character design in this movie is honestly one of the best I have seen since Flint Lockwood's Dad.
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Was Mitchell’s vs. the Machines underrated? VERY much so. Does that mean Encanto didn’t deserve the accolades and praise it received? Absolutely not. We can’t really pit these two movies against each other when frankly their only big similarity is that they’re both animated
His point was that it was refreshing to see a movie that has a different animated style where as Encanto looks like just another Pixar movie.
True but honestly encanto is not as unique as tMatM, it's a good movie but disney pumps out similar ones routinely
Encanto was great and I was hoping it’d get best animated feature, but Mitchell’s was done in such a fantastic animation/editing style that I think it’s better from a technical standpoint. Mega furby haunts my dreams.
Though to be fair, Encanto had a LOT of fun visuals. The musical sections of the movie took a lot of creative liberties and I absolutely loved it.
Encanto was painfully average what do you mean
The problem with the best animated feature category is that it's too broad. It's basically the best picture for animation but then does that mean best story, best animation, best USE of animation, most innovative animation, best overall, etc, etc. there just isn't enough for us to know. I still think Mitchell's should've won this year but for example, if it was most innovative animation then Loving Vincent (which was animated by having a gajillion OIL PAINTINGS. EACH FRAME WAS AN INDIVIDUAL OIL PAINTING) should've won by a long shot
lets face it, its "best animated Disney movie" at this point, since Disney has the monopoly over everything nowadays.
@@tornadodee148I don’t think the Oscars are biased towards Disney anymore seen as they have the most recent Oscar to Del Toro’s Pinocchio
Also Encanto was objectively better than Mitchell’s and deserved the win.
I agree that Mitchell’s vs the Machines should’ve. I also thought it was unfair that Disney completely saturated the animated movie market. Kinda felt like it was a setup for them to win considering half the nominations were their movies.
There are years where Disney didn’t really deserve best animated feature
But 2021 is not one of them
Encanto deserved the Oscar because it has more powerful writing and fewer flaws than MVTM
I am heartbroken that this movie hasn't gotten as enough attention as it did.
One thing I love about 2D animation is how there are so many distinct styles across films, and I think maybe since Into the Spiderverse, maybe studios are a bit more willing to take risks and create stuff that doesn't look like all the other 3D animated films. (Not that I don't also love those films.)
I love animation with mixed media, which is why I loved this one and Spiderverse sooo much. The colors and emphasis on actions or expressions were amazing. TBH it’s upsetting that people are still saying animation is for children only when there are so many examples where it’s not. My dad always tells me animation is for kids- and he set up one of my childhood movies as Watership Down. Even if animation was only for children it’s sucks to have a mindset where you hole it down for only one age, when animations like Encanto and Turning Red represent many generations of relatability.
The academy: "animation is for kids"
Half of anime: "What am I then? A walrus?"
"I am the Walrus, Googoo gachoo"
This is an AMAZING movie. It was a bit awkward feeling at the beginning when the movie had the doodle art that popped up because it was SO different from typical animation movies. That little piece became my favorite part because it was not typical. It didn't feel sterile and a cookie cutter movie
This movie is the closest fictional family to mine I’ve ever seen and I loved that. It’s very diffrent from my family but a dad who loves nature and wants to live in the woods but cant (and is very good at survival skills) a smart blond younger brother, a brunette mom who is a teacher and a creative older sibling with red hair going to college is relatable. My family luckily accepts my job but my mom is still struggling with the idea of me leaving for college in less than 2 years and we all felt somthing special about this movie while the whole thing is also just super entertaining. It’s great and it’s diffrent.
Sony has been honestly my favourite studio when it comes to animated movies in recent times. The Mitchell’s VS the Machines has some of the best animation I’ve seen come out of a movie and it’s a shame it came out when theatres weren’t really open, and Spider-Man into the Spider-verse is one of my all time favourite movies I’ve seen, with such an incredible yet simple story, visuals that actually feel like a comic book put to film, and they actually made Miles an interesting and likeable character (which isn’t usually the case, he’s kinda just “Spider-Man but black” most of the time). They’re not the best when it comes to live action, just look at Morbius, but their animation has the best style, comedy, and story I’ve seen for any recent animated movies.
Little fun fact: The song they use for that final fight scene uses samples from Dragostea Din Tei, a Romanian pop song that was part of a video meme of a guy dancing to it that went viral during early CZcams (I believe people called him the "numa numa" guy). In elementary school circa 2011 I downloaded the song on my mp3 player and I still listen to it regularly even now! It was one of my favorite references to early meme culture from the movie because the song is so nostalgic for me.
"The mom who says she believes in you, but doesn't do the extra effort to show she believes in you". Literally this with my mom. I can't have a conversation with her about my field because she doesn't even put in the effort to know my field. I've attempted time and time again to teach her about the absolute basics of cameras, ISO, Shutter Speed, and Aperture. But she just can't... Even with mere measurements such as Gigabytes, the data she sees on her phone on a daily basis, she still goes "giga.. bite?"... Storage mom! Storage! Your phone has storage!
This comment has me laughing so hard
"Western Animation has never done something like this..."
*Gumball has entered the chat
I love that her fingernails are painted this messy because, you cant lie, all of our fingernails looked like this once.
I feel like the thing that puts movies like The Mitchells vs The Machines in a category of the animation above movies like Encanto is how the animation and style is a direct part of the narrative whereas Encanto's animation feels more driven by a "make it feel Disney" end goal
This is what I say
“Encanto is a great movie, but The Mitchell’s vs The Machines is ……..special and hits harder”
I think choosing if Mitchell's vs The machines or Encanto is better is up to the person
I’m sorry, but if you want to judge the Oscars, you have to be unbiased.
Since Encanto has a more sophisticated story and fewer flaws than Mitchell’s. Encanto deserved the win.
@@finalmountainWhat flaws? Flaws are subjective. More sophisticated =/= better.
LOVE this movie!! Really deserves more attention, so many great elements in it
This literally came up in my recommended right when I sat down for dinner to take a short break from the animation I'm working on in school right now, RIGHT AFTER telling my friend Mitchells vs the Machines deserved to win the Oscar. Perfect timing my good sir.
I'm Hispanic, specifically Cuban, so i will say encanto has a huge spot in my heart in getting that generational trauma and everything - but i did love this movie a lot and it had a ton of moments that felt more inspired and heartfelt than encanto did. I also have the fortune(?) Of having a terrible relationship with my dad and this movie made me cry so much. Like encanto having the grandma apologize and realize her mistakes, this movie gives a catharsis through that wish fulfillment, and I think it did it better.
Animation takes so much work to do and I always wondered what the reaction to the actors who participate in animated films. The Oscars seem to snub Animation time after time but the category was created because of Beauty and the Beast. I went to school for Animation and it really wasn't easy at all. I admit I dropped it after a year but to anyone who continued my hats off to you. The hard work, the patience, the pain, and everything it takes to create an animated film is a difficult but worth while process. Animation is made for everyone not just for kids.
Mitchells Vs. the Machines is one of my all time favorite movies. There's so much that I could relate to and I absolutely ADORED how stylized it was! It's inspired me as an artist and it's also comforted me. I could go on and on about all the little things that made me fall in love with it but yes, it deserves so much more love.
I love the edit where someone put "Rip&Tear" over Mama Mitchell going berserk.
Doomslayer makes everything badass.
i love how literally every single shot you take of a character doing anything looks like a concept art. Like, any scene you pause, it just looks amazing
i love the fact you mentioned the instagram perfect family because my dad is one of those instagram dads and i know how it feels to be one of those kids in the perfect families when i know we're not and that means so much to me that you explained it so perfectly.
Its hard to make me cry from something sad in a movie. But from the handful of times it has happened, I think maybe 1 or 2 was not an animated film. Animation can allow an artist to make everything perfect to what they want. No dealing with finding a real actor who looks, talks, and acts like you want. You dont need to find or make the right scenes. It is such a great medium that is constantly showing itself as making some of the best stories made into film.
Yes a lot of kids stuff is animated, bright animation is just easy to grab a child attention. Just like how the Oscars doesn't compare literally all live action films with the Wiggles Movie, they should not assume all animated films are Boss Baby. People make whatever they want, and just because animation is great for kids content doesn't mean it cannot be used to make films that easily compete with any of the most successful Hollywood movies made.
I don't think mitchells vs the machines should have won.
NOW DON'T GET ME WRONG, I freaking loved the movie: the style is great, the story is surprisingly fun and relatable, and it's also the only movie that i've seen that manages to tell a story about millenials, boomers, phones and new technologies, and not making it cringe.
But this year I decided to watch ALL of the films that were nominated to the academy awards, and after doing so, I immediately knew that "FLEE" was the best animated movie.
I'm not going to bore you with the details, but I LOVED this movie.
It was charming, interesting and breathtaking. The story is an interview/docummentary transformed into animation (to hide the identity of the interviewed)
and it tells the story of amin (fake name), who was forced by the war to escape afganistan, and went through lots of trouble to reveal and understand his own identity and sexuality.
All of this while he struggles to open about his past for the first time.
Anyway, I don't know if bionic knew about "FLEE", or if he just watched "encanto" and "mitchells vs the machines" and decided to make a video.
But to me it feels like you can't say that a movie is the one that deserved the award if you haven't seen the other nominees.
Oh, and I also want to say that although animation can do amazing things that could never be achieved in non-animated movies, that doesn't mean that animation is better than every other medium: that's just not true.
And the fact that you pointed out that "soul" had regular animation was pretty sketchy. Soul is an amazing movie and I feel like "regular animation" isn't something that defines such an amazing take on life and the meaning of existence.
bruh
They didnt nominate it because its not for kids and "AniMAtiOn Is For kIdS"
I came across Mitchells vs the Machines randomly one night when I had nothing to do and boy was I taken for a wonderful ride. It is such a beautiful piece of art. Loved it so much!
Hey Pig. Just wanted to let you know, the editing in this video was beautiful and your content on and off stream has been bussin 👌
"animation is for kids"
they're gonna be real mad when they discover 99% of what anime has to offer
i actually watched this movie with a friend at like 1 AM and throughout the entire film i was simultaneously saying "goddamn the animation is so stylized and smooth holy shit" and "OH GOD OH MAN" because like being a 2000s kid myself,,,, all that filter stuff (i guess you could call it) was legit what i called my "personality" in the late 2000s to early 2010s lmao
Me and my husband watched the Mitchells together one evening, after the kids went to bed. Then the next day we realized: Hey, maybe the kids would have liked that movie.
I watched both The Mitchells vs The Machines and Encanto in a small time period and I loved both. I feel like I had more fun on Encanto but I am not saying it's ultimately better movie and it's hard to say which one is objectivelly better because they are SUPER good in different ways and I enjoyed them for different reasons. Although I am a person... a Disney fan who isn't very much into musicals, I think ALL Encanto songs are God tier bangers, written by Moana's songwriter, they are some of the best songs Disney has released ever. On the other hand TMvTM was a really great comedy and the "phone bad humor" and all the other aspects were really relatable to me. The family is very well written, they have really cute relationships, especially Katie and Aaron. Also poggers for the Luigi's Got Big Tiddies representation, that was cute as well. I must give Encanto some bonus points because it bought me with its songs even though I don't really like singing in movies (unless they are REALLY good songs like ones from Mulan or Hercules) but TMvTM had definitely way more creative and experimental animation because they tried to make something new and fresh and from 0, while Disney was just being Disney.
Also the Oscars not appreciating real art is hella cringe and as the guys who are supposed to KNOW SHIT about movies this is a crime. A sin. A blasphemy.
“Moana’s songwriter”💀
@@zembie-animates Yes. Moana also has great songs.
@@DraconasTenZHG yes I know buts that’s not all he’s known for.
Something Schaffrillas pointed out is that the "animation is for kids" joke doesn't even make sense for what they're covering in the moment when you consider one of the nominees was Flee, which is a horrific and mature story about a refugee escaping Afghanistan in an event that scarred both him and his family, plus it was the most traditionally animated film of the lot being in 2D.
I think their disrespect for animation can be explained(but not excused) by Disney basically owning the Oscars. They own ABC, so they have a massive hand in what wins and what doesn't. Only about 6 out of the 20 so far Best Animated Feature winners aren't from Disney, plus Cruella had no right winning anything when it won Best Costume Design, then let the director rant about how "good" Cruella is. The "Animation is for kids" comment coming from them makes sense since, like you said, all they do is safe animated movies for kids. The last risk they took was Wreck-It-Ralph back in 2012 and they even managed to Emoji Movie that property. Even Pixar is more of a risk taker than them, seeing as movies like Soul and Ratatouille cover extremely deep seeded topics mainly for adults, and Turning Red is even more miraculous for being willing to accurately portray hormonal 13 year olds as well as what would be happening around that age in life.
Essentially, Disney doesn't know any better and they don't know how to respect their audience, and especially not their piers in animation or filmmaking in general. As a streaming movie they were never gonna let Mitchells win, and the fact Raya was even nominated shows the state of the game when it comes to award ceremonies(Aside from maybe the Grammys)
Screw off Disney, if anyone commits arson on Cindy's castle you can place your infinite money on it being me
*Disney* : "This movie will feature the first gay character in a Disney movie! They won't have a name, any lines, and their scene can be easily cut from the movie for international release.
*Sony* : Our main character is gay. Here's her girlfriend. It's not a big deal.
Don't get me wrong, I genuinely do like Encanto but once you watch it once, that's it. At least for me, there's not much rewatch value. Most of the songs are just the same old LMM songs. But with MVTM , there's always something new, something I didn't notice before. The style is so much more eye catching and just FUN, I absolutely adored it.
Your doing the criticisms wrong.
Encanto is an original story that follows Disney’s traditional style and has great music and more powerful writing than Mitchells.
I genuinely can't believe that was said at the Oscars, that was disgusting and such an insult.
I don't really think they ment it like that
@@kaidenmuldrow2359 No, I'm pretty sure they did.
Absolute favorite movie of 2021 without a doubt but I wish they fleshed out the Poseys more. They toyed with them POSING as the perfect family on social media but they should've shown their more vulnerable side during the apocalypse. Showing that they're as weird as the Mitchells in real life to push the message that there is no perfect family.
The awards for "best animated picture" is the "Disney Award" at this point, Klaus didn't deserve to lose against the cashgrab that was Toy Story 4.
"LET THE DARK HARVEST BEGIN!!!"
OH MY LORD.....
on the topic that mitchell vs the machine should've won: remember klaus? yes, the amazing animated movie that lost to toy story 4, do you know why it lost? because toy story 4 was pixar of course, i doubt any of those bastards saw Klaus, because that movie is just on another level pf animation and story, is just so good
Honestly I love it when a reviewer can relate to a film and shares there own experiences- it just makes that persons review more unique!
It's kinda interesting that recently Sony pictures animation as a studio is one of the more creative big western animation studios out there as two recent films in their catalogue are definitely more stylized and different to other animated films. In fact the recent Marvel films being all about the multiverse would not have been considered if not for the success of Into the Spiderverse as a film. Mitchell and the Machines does things that Disney would never consider doing, for eg the main character is gay(and you know Disney would not even have any main star of the film be gay because they think that being gay is somehow not family friendly although they have so many straight romances) which tells you all you need to know.
So personally I'm hoping more animation studios in the western world go back to creative styles and the fact with animation you can be creative. Like here's an example of Disney being creative, Treasure Planet and the Emperor's New Groove(they both had very creative animation style that was different as well). But that is kinda where they have fallen off now because I'll be honest 2D animation tends to be more creative than 3D animation and that is why Japan still has some of the most beautiful animated films in the world because a lot of films in the Japanese animation scene are still 2D animated films. But seeing 3D animation be used more creatively is something I do like and something that hasn't really been done.
Never understood why people say “animation is for children” like?? It’s not like your gonna sit with child down to watch sausage party as a family fun watch?
MvtM is literally one of THE BEST animated films I have ever seen in my life, hands down.
i cried so much watching this movie and then i cried again when you mentioned the house thing. It's just reminds me of my dad and how he wants me to have things he didn't get. Also my passion for animation and how i tried to work in a studio, did well too, worked on big projects, but couldn't deal with the awful working conditions, thereby ending my dreams. Anyways, loved this movie.
if it weren’t for all the drama around Will Smith I (and many other people) definitely wouldn’t have even known the Oscars were happening again 😂
WE HAVE SUFFERED AN IMMESURABLE, BUT PERHAPS 8 INCHES, OF LOSS ON THIS DAY. REST IN RIP LUSCIOUS LOCKS.
Did my man just show animated boinkers at 1:30?? 👀
Pig the greenscreen works much better than the normal backdrop! Keep it!!!!
Honestly, this is my new favourite movie,
Me and my brother have the same age difference as them
I make animations
My brothers a dino nerd
My dads names Richard, he hates the internet,
So it’s basically the perfect movie at my house
Thank god he fixed his hair. Makes him look so much younger and cuter
When I heard that Encanto won I was pissed. It just felt like it was trying to be the next Coco or Book of Life which are both phenomenal movies celebrating Hispanic culture. Encanto just feels like Disney trying to get Diversity points.
Encanto deserved the Oscar it had the best structured message of 2021 animation.
"As the saying goes, you can pick your friends but you can't pick your family."
I thought it was "you can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friends nose."
I can not understand how 90% of American adults watch Family Guy to the point of referencing jokes in episodes, yet also say that animation is for kids.
I’m glad somebody else found out about the Furby Subtitles
That part at the start of the video when you said something like "animation can do shit live-action can't do" reminded me of those Attack on Titan live-action movies. Maybe you should review them and compare it to the anime
The mom killing all the robots was incredibly badass. Never mess with a person’s kids.
Me this entire video: EXACTLY!!!
I didn't understand why the Oscar went to Encanto. If we're looking at animation only, Mitchells vs The Machines danced circles around the others. It was so detailed, included several animation styles, and the story kept us engaged. Also, I'm glad you mentioned the joke that the presenters made because animation is truly so much more than family friendly movies we grew up on.
Your aloud to love Mitchell’s Versus The Machines as much as you like.
But if you want to judge the Oscars, you have to do the criticisms properly and unbiased
Encanto deserved the win because it has more sophisticated writing and fewer flaws than MVTM
I’m saying this as someone who prefers live action over animation therefore doesn’t rate movies solely by animation style
This animation is for kids thing has been trying to be challenged as early as the 60s when The Flintstones was made. The first sitcom family and TV show specifically made for both kids and adults to enjoy. They have an old commercial where The Flintstones are advertising cigarettes ffs. Back when it was legal to advertise smoking that is.
These microaggressions on animation really does hurt the image of how people see cartoons
The first time I watched this movie I was on acid and it was amazing. However I kept looking at the animation style and being like are they animated they look soooooo real. Watched it again sober and it still held up great movie solid plot and story awesome character building. I did still think they werent as animated as they looked but it rocked!!
yeah back when I was in elementary school I had already decided that I was going to be an engineer, when I told my father he said oh you shouldn't do that cause I don't think you can make a living out of it..... a stem career, I told him but I could work at a plant, then he said "but you're not smart enough and that career is a lot of math" I did managed to finish college despite a lot of circumstances but the point is there, you could tell your boomer parent that you want to work on a viable field but they will always find a way to belittle you n try to make you give up your dreams no matter how plausible they might be
I liked Encanto more because the family was more dysfunctional so I could relate more.
yeah same. them being a collective family instead of an individual one too +them being brown made me relate a lot
I loved Encanto don't get me wrong but The Michelle's Vs The Machines was perfect. It had laughs, creative and new animation techniques mixed with both amazing characters and story. What not to love. The scene with the big Furby lazering throught the building has got to be the coolest animated sequence of all time. Well done Encanto but this should have won
I’m sorry but you have to do the criticisms properly and be unbiased if you wanna argue with the Oscars.
Encanto deserved the win because it has more sophisticated writing and fewer flaws than Mitchells.
And as someone who perfers live action over animation. I can say the story from Mitchell’s isn’t amazing or super deep, unlike something like Barry Jenkin’s Moonlight
Everytime I see that moment from the oscars where they refer to animation as something for kids, ngl it feels like I'm being personally attacked, I love drawing and plan on becoming an animator, so watching people basically dissing on the thing I wanna work on is really painful, even if I don't care about the oscars anymore. People, don't watch these events, even if you wanna see celebrity dude suplexing other celebrity dude and make funny memz about it, is better to not give attention to that stuff, value movies by yourself and have your own criteria.
bro, respek to you for speaking up for this golden of a film. :0
THIS IS MY FAVORITE MOVIE!! FINALY SOME RECOGNITION!!! THANK YOU FELLOW PIG!!!
Making a “ best animated picture “ is like making a “ best hand held camera movie “, it’s a medium !
Honest it was the worst Oscars I have ever watched the slap was the only thing that made be notice it they didn't even show Sam Jackson getting his life time achievement award
The subtitles for the Furbies actually show by default as part of the movie, like when characters speak a language other than English for a small part of a film that’s just about in English entirely. These Furbies are crazy lmao
This movie made me cry I could relate so hard to the main character
Adding to what you said about the Oscar’s at the start one of the animated movies was flee which is about a refugee escaping war totally “for kids”
How have I never heard of this movie?!
I’m definitely going to watch it with my kids. It looks fantastic!
this is a new and well scrambled version of "cloudy with a chance of meatballs" ... story, look and even resolution. but in a good way
Personally I would have liked Mitchell’s to have won, but I have no issues with either Encanto or Luca winning as either film each has its own merits that made it worthy of winning
Bionic pig: " And the they all die"
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I watched this movie 4 times now and I laughed and cried and cried laughing every time.
I think everyone can relate to the Characters and the dog
Oooooh the dog
The dog is perfect
I also loved this movie.
The Oscars should drop the facade, call the Category "best Pixar Movie this year" and be done with it lol
I love this movie so much.