The Office - plot holes & inconsistencies
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- čas přidán 15. 09. 2018
- A long list of minor discrepancies I noticed throughout the series of this beloved show. Thank you for all your insightful comments, I can't wait to do a part 2!
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The Meredith not liking jim plot hole makes sense bc she’s probably mad that he didn’t like her
Years pass by as well
Yea an opinions change...
I'd say it's highly likely she stopped liking him when he got married to Pam, because she has said before in the show that she has a strict policy against hooking up with men in relationships
If the recast characters ever meet and touch eachother, the universe will probably explode.
Can we just agree that plot holes don’t matter in this show
Smitten Duck it doesn’t but it’s fun to find them
It doesn’t matter on any show really. The reality is almost all shows start out different than they end up, and while consistency would be nice, it’s almost impossible considering how many exposures they have to write. In the end, it’s all about making 20 episodes a season being funny, and consistency gets thrown out the window.
Ikr, it's a comedy ffs
Sam Mayor YES! I totally agree with that! 👍👍
yes we can, but id still like to know the holes so i dont fall in
"Apparently there are rules for drinking in the office"
*There's like 50 rules in a normal office that Michael breaks in just the first season.*
its just weird that nobody mentions it
If you continue the scene where Michael talks about college parties, he goes on to describe his fantastically delusional ideas of what college parties are like (inviting the professors, etc.). I think that was just another way of him trying to pretend he went to college, and very clearly not a plot hole. It's very fitting for Michael to pretend he went to college (consider that time Darryl rhetorically asks him what college he went to) and this is another instance of that.
Yeah I think it was pretty obvious that the few instances of Michael talking about going to college are either him trying to fit in unsuccessfully or meant to be clunky segues into what he actually wants to talk about, like the scene where he says the things he misses most are the parties but really he’s just trying to get Jim to invite him to the party he knows he’s already having.
Same thing with Angela saying she's a "professional woman"- it's written as hypocrisy because she ACTS like she is, while she's sleeping with employees and really just a conniving person
i am pretty sure he just got like an associates from a community college but never had the "college experience" that he fantasizes about
@@JasonThomasLionHeart why are you pretty sure about that?
@@brandonsmith9512Wouldnt you need a college degree to work at a place like dunder mifflin and be considered to be manager
Honestly, Michael probably had no idea Meredith wasn’t an accountant.
that's something Michael would forget or not care about
He had no idea Toby has been rehired for weeks too 😂
Maddie Hassell Jim also called her an accountant
Yeah on her birthday card right? Glad the writers changed her job though, she made no sense as an accountant and supplier relations led into some of her more scandalous storylines
Jim wrote this joke, not Michael
I drew the conclusion that the characters started to speak out more and appear to change a lot because they are becoming more comfortable with being filmed for a documentary
Agreed. Being filmed like that would be hella awkward at first
I hadnt thought about that and its basically the most logical explanation to the obvious fladerization
And in the last episode, Meredith and Oscar talks about specific details about themselves which the film crew completely nerfs (e.g. origami)
Ye its just character arches
@@theodorelasso7466 it's a mockumentary
The greatest plothole was the "State" senator had a son when he met Angela the first time in that haystack fair and then the son disappears in the later episodes
Pam does mention his son when they discover he's gay tho
@@alex-8736That's the Senators and Angela's son she mentioned. Either way it could've been the Senators nephew in the haystack
I think he mentioned that her wife passed away in that episode explaining the kid and i think that they never brought up this fact again
There is a big difference between taking a different job in the same city (same building, as it turned out) when you are engaged with no kids and taking a job in a different city when you are married with 2 young kids.
right that pissed me off
There is… but she also left to go to New York and he was very supportive of her following her dream, even if it probably wasn’t going to work out. Yet she wasn’t able to do the same.
I’m not one of those “omg, Pam is the worst person imaginable” types but there is some hypocrisy there. And she wasn’t exactly shown in the best light in later seasons.
@@Fetidafdid you not read a single thing from the original comment? The difference is that they had kids when Jim went off to take the risk
@@andylmp I’ve watched the show many times and yes, I read the original comment. I realize they had kids at the time, I don’t think there’s as much of a difference as people would like to think.
If the roles were reversed I have no doubt that Jim would want Pam to pursue her dream, even if it made his life a bit harder.
@@FetidafJim would have been just as upset if Pam did it in the same way as Jim did, by not asking before deciding such a big thing.
I hate that we missed Michael's wedding him becoming a father 😭 so many missed opportunities
phillyhippie right?!?!! Like he just moved with holly and then no sight of him until dwights wedding. Huge missed opportunities
Thats what she said?
They definitely should have had a wedding on the show for him
@@hollyjoy2150 I mean, Michael leaving the office wasn't part of the plot. Steve left because they didn't offer him an extended contract, so Michael left. They just fit in the story that he married Holly and got kids etc.
Him appearing in the finale was more luck than anything, because at the time he wasn't shooting anything else.
@@San4311 such a shame it was a short appearance too tho
kevin not wanting to wash his hands but wanting others to do it is the MOST KEVIN thing ever lmao
its kinda sounds like he just learned why he has to wash his hands
Lmao and remember that episode when he said “ I have no patience for stupidity “ how ironic
Its stupid how he included this because he cant criticize them for being inconsistent when it was a deleted scene
Ana Gambale yeah. This.
@@jacksonhenry5588 a lot of the "inconsistencies" on this list are just character development or things that pertain to real life.
Kevin is a little bit anti-social and weird. I like to think that when someone else told him to wash his hands in earlier episodes, it became apparent to him that that is something that he should do, so he tells others to do it. So rather than being an "inconsistency" it becomes "consistent" with his character development.
Honestly Daryl’s change makes sense. He went from a confident, no nonsense warehouse worker to goofy and comedic, not unlike many working in the office.
he turned into an upstairs person lol
@@ColtyWolty68He was an honorary office worker
About the Angela sister thing, I'd like to think that they started talking again and smoothed things over. It's very possible since Angela becomes a much better person over the course of the show, and likely less petty. They're probs referring to how close they've been since their whole 16 year thing.
Angela had two sisters, so the “Maybe it’s a different sister.” thing works.
I always thought she had more than 1 sister. That makes more sense to me
She definitely has more than one sister. In the surplus during the 'fake' wedding with Andy, Dwight mentions Angela's SISTERS. She has more than one.
@@mattslupek7988Except for the fact the finale addresses the fact she invited the same sister to the wedding, since they used to be “best friends”.
They did as the sister was in the finale.
I like to think Andy's real parents wouldn't show up so he hired impostors on Craigslist.
Justin Blakeney knowing andy’s character this makes SOOO much sense.
especially since it was early on. they only showed up after he become the boss
You know they had to do it to em
It even explains the name change he resents having his name changed from the one he shared with his dad so when he hires imposters he changes his Dads name to match his.
Justin Blakeney that’s exactly what happened
nice job stealing this comment...
A Random Person
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Maybe Andy invited different people because his parents didn't want to. by A random person (that is there CZcams name btw)
no one talks about how Andy’s good character went shit
actually i just watched a video recently where everyone did nothing but complain about how Andy's good character went to shit, both in the video and in the comments.
I completely disagree it went the other way around
The writers were mad at Ed Helms for filming another show and missing filming the office so they added some bad character changes. You can tell throughout the ninth season they realized they made a mistake and changed his character back to the Andy Bernard we knew. We all go through personality changes in life and this was a wave of Andy’s changes. All of the characters changed. Something that is rarely brought up is how it was scripted for Jim to cheat on Pam and then put into deleted scenes. Edit: Thanks so much for the likes 🙂
Alice Wright no, just no
Savage Sea Monkey yes, just yes
At first he was annoying and self obsessed now he is likable and slightly competent
Kelly's change was because the crew allowed Mindy Kaling to take over the character writing for her. That was Mindy's plan for Kelly at the beginning, but she was just a supporting cast at the time!
I think the whole Angela being close with her sister again thing was meant to show how much she’d grown as a person and how much happier she was not that she was with Dwight, that it encouraged her to reach out to her sister and rekindle their relationship- but idrk
I believe the "plot holes" about Kelly's and Oscars character development are just them being more minor characters in the pilot season then growing more in later seasons.
Oscar acting less gentle over time definitely makes sense. These people have put him through a lot.
He prefaced all the character development with a screen that said “character development”
Hailey Marie oh I thought of it as them getting more comfortable with the camera crew being there
I think it's more that the writers changed over time and what started as a semi-realistic show about awkward office cultural got super wacky over time to where most of the characters originally written as "normal people" became caricatures. But yeah, some characters' "evolution" seemed more natural than others.
Also, bear in mind that Season 1 was basically a carbon copy of the British version. British humor is more dark and American humor is more lighthearted, so when they made the show a little different and made it their own. First season, Michael was a d*ck, but Season 2, he was more of a likable idiot. Pam gained confidence after the art exhibition when Oscar and Gil were talking about her artwork. Lots of stuff like that.
they actually made michael scott’s hair like that in season 1 to make him unlikeable but later changed it since the show stars him
burify I think they made his hair like that to better match the boss' hair from The Office UK, but then the US version took off and they then did whatever they wanted with the show basically
Idk man Why I gotta put my name? For sure. If you listen to Jenna Fischer and Angela kinsleys podcast they talk about how Ricky gervais actually was the one who told them to change Michael because Americans wouldn’t relate to a boss like the UK one.
@John Barber actually between season 1 and 2 there's no such thing as transplant. I have light hair so I know that when you gel up the hair, and style them pulled backwards it will maximize the balding look, on the contrary dried up side parted rested hair would be the opposite. So it's just that, but definitely Steve carell still has hair, so he definitely underwent some procedure in last decade.
burify Facts.
I assumed that when the show was re-upped for the second season, they made Steve get hair plugs.
You didn't mention the worst one(the only one that actually made me confused on how they missed it). In Season 8 Dwight had an emergency appendix removal during their 3-week trip to Tallahassee, directly after surgery Dwight leaves the hospital and is seen at Sabre showing off his wound. The very next episode in Jim's hotel room we see Dwight take his shirt completely off and there is no wound or scar or anything to signify that he just had surgery the day or two prior. And then the next episode Dwight mentions his post-OP appointment while saying he will cancel that appointment in order to stay and work to get the VP job.
That's a great one that I missed !
Or it could be the episodes are not all broadcasted in filming order.
this show and the breaking bad universe could genuinely coexist. Besides Badger being Dwight's cousin, the Jesse Pinkman skit of him giving meth to Creed and then Saul Goodman being a manager after taking that offer to live a new life really makes me wish it were canon
As someone who loves both shows I hate the idea of them coexisting
Someone should make a mix of all the times Jim told a customer, "Can I call you right back?"
Or hung up Pam’s phone when she was talking to a customer to show her something.
yesss i was thinking about how much he did that yesterday
‘Hold on one second...’
Yes!!!!
I found it after searching around
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kelly's change is me when i first meet someone and me when ive known them forever.
🤣🤣🤣 this is amazing
chadnisha Can we talk about how they only call her Erin even though her real name is kelly bc there’s another kelly in the office. But then everyone keeps calling her erin even though they dont work at the office (example her foster brother) or kelly kapoor doesnt work there anymore probably bc the writers forgot their own writing
Sadia Choudhury EXACTLY!!? I’ve been thinking this for so long
@@sadia64210 brilliant, Sadia, missed that one but will include it for round 2 !
@@sadia64210 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 LMAO yesssssss!!!!! I always forget her name isn't even Erin!!!! Like bitch she does not look like a Kelly 🤣🤣🤣
The real reason for character personality changes is because at the start they were going with something closer to the British version of the office, but the comedy was changed over time to suit the American palette
That and characters are supposed to grow.
Yea they started and every character was unlikable and then they realized nobody would watch that for 10 years lol
On the waitress one, according to Greg Daniels, the joke was that Michael and Andy failed to pick up the original waitresses and settled for different ones
Most of these just seam to assume that the characters are being honest all the time. Everyone lies to everyone in an office setting, it's just how much of human relations work.
I don’t think this guy’s ever heard of character development
But there are a lot of surprising points otherwise!
John Krasinski has explained a lot of this. They got to know their characters and developed them accordingly.
Character progression can be good or bad. It has to be believable. In The Office some characters basically evolve into caricatures of themselves. That's not good writing, that's something that happens when a show has jumped the shark.
@@bobbobbins4877 well this happens in a lot of shows. Look at the sopranos season 1. But also always sunny kind of parodies this as well as the characters in that show just become more and more ridiculous as the show goes on.
@@granolagirl71 yeah, it still creates plot holes tho, like explained in the video
Honestly a lot of these aren’t even real plothiles
A small mistake you missed is that Erin tried some expresso when Michael made the disco café and liked it, then a few seasons later said she had never tried expresso before. Pretty minor tv mistake but I still thought it was funny
Well Erin is supposed to be dumb, it’s possible she just didn’t remember. Did Michael actually call it espresso or did he say “black happy drink”.
dwight saying there was a bathroom under the porch happened in season 2, the outhouse was in season 4. therefore he built an outhouse sometime between the two episodes
The cleaning lady people vs the Russian workers change came after Dwight bought the building
Noah Suptho Dwight doesn’t own the building at that time
@@dashman8499 still not impossible for the cleaning staff to change so thats deffo not an inconsistency
@@ghostopss111 Also that music didn't sound Russian
@@Ryan-wx8of Plus, though it would be a weird explanation, both crews were different shifts. It's possible one crew is filled with people that speak Spanish and the other was filled with Russians. One seemed not long after they closed. So around 6:00 or 7:00. The other was late at night or even after midnight.
Yes, there is nothing unusual about Changing cleaning contractors.
And, Russians listen to all different kinds of music.
The fact Erin's name was also Kelly, but her name just gets changed to Erin, and everyone (including her parents, adoptive or otherwise) call her Erin. Her brother calls her Erin, everyone calls her Erin.
nah, erin was clearly her preferred name forever. when she overheard that the boss was calling her and kelly by their last names, it was her opportunity to be called her preferred middle name by everyone rather than her legal first name happens to me everytime I get a new job
@@kayem8418 while I understand what you're saying, my point is that the writers, her brother, AND her birth mother (who wouldn't have known this preference, as, the first time she ever meets her is at the end) all call her Erin, because the writers forgot the whole Kelly joke as soon as they made it.
@@Andoryuuu her birth parents gave her up as a baby, chances are they weren’t the ones who named her. When you think about it, if her birth parents actually did name her, than she would’ve been able to find them a lot sooner by last name. They call her Erin at the end because they found her through the documentary, and for 95% of it, she’s known as Erin. Also, Reed is her foster brother, so he would know her as the name she prefers.
Right before Dwight shot the gun near Andy, Andy said guns made him uncomfortable, yet he and Dwight went on a hunting trip in an earlier episode
Well I’m one of those weird “goes by middle name” people. However when asked like at school or work what my name is I’ll say my real name, later asking to be called by my middle. So, I would have said my name is Kelly, then asked to be called Erin if I could and then all of my friends and family would call me Erin. If you go by your middle name, it’s a hot mess and you’ll answer to anything.
I used to think the volleyball thing was an inconsistency but from being on the lacrosse team and friends with players on the soccer team many players still willingly join the team and are good at the sport but practice is always more boring than the games and players get tired going to 2 hour practices everyday, even the best players would be happy when practice was cancelled one day so it isn’t far fetched that pam tried to get out of it sometimes especially if she had to play it during pe and school AND after school
especially considering it's gym and it may be too easy/boring. I don't usually choose to play sports or exercise in my free time, but I am usually a natural and compete well without much effort on my part. Most people who know me get surprised when I can lift heavy things, run pretty fast, or have a mean serve in the case I rarely chose to or have to. It could simply be that
Easy explanation is Pam grew out of faking BMS, and when she noticed the camera crew was confused because of her earlier statement she said all that to recover. Especially after the junior high statement which seems awkward for her.
Pam could have easily been referring to one volleyball practice/game etc that she didn't feel like going to lol
I thought Toby’s brother was just Toby with CGI’d features
B O same lol
Same
The actor was also married to Angela for 10 years.
Anna you just blew my mind
I'm pretty sure Meredith WAS an accountant but the "supplier relations" thing came from the fact that she was in fact having relations with the suppliers for better deals and gift cards.
Good Catch !
She used to be an accountant
That sounds right
And anybody that's ever had a job before knows that people often apply internally for different positions, or are promoted within the company. So her having a different job from one season to the next is pretty common. But I guess if you've never worked before you can't possibly understand how somebody could work in accounting one day, and supplier relations the next.
Toby loses weight. Woah... what were they thinking
In a deleted scene, Meredith trips over the face hole, so assuming that that deleted scene is still part of lore, we can assume that the face hole was removed shortly after
"Toby's face is a plot hole and inconsistency" - Michael Scott probably
When you first meet the state senator, he has a son, and then he disappears?
I have wondered about that one. Also what was a state senator doing at Hay Place?
@@derekbos4404 also why did a state senator just abandon his wife and kid to live in a tiny apartment or tent. he thought that lil phil was his right?
@@samjohnson4766 he didn't bc he actually had no sex with Angela, at least that's what I first thought
No he did have sex with angela, probably reluctantly
What I always wondered is if Angela was married to the state senator, why was she in Scranton and not Harrisburg?
This actually shows how Ryan made Kelly's life go down the drains and brought out the worst in her. It's a real character development and not a plot hole or inconsistency as such.
‘Made her’
Watch the show again.
I hated the way they turned Ryan's personality so much
Kelly was crazy and the actor is irl cough* cough* Velma
Not really, acording to how the series evolved. Kelly was always like that. It0s just that her character wasn't yet stablished in season 1
my favorite inconsistency in the show is the timeline of andy’s parents’ relationship. in secretary’s day he states that if it weren’t for secretaries he wouldn’t have a stepmom. but then in a later season he states that his dad ran off with another woman, leaving the family with no money.
however i feel like most of the ones talked about in the video are easily explained if you know the show well enough, have a logical explanation, or are deliberate as part of a joke. ://
if andy's dad ran off (leaving no money for the family) and remarried, then andy would have a stepmom "bcs of" secretaries tho right?
the woman his dad ran off with was probably the secretary?
Okay, the thing with Oscar and hardwood floor is that in the gun incident episode he acknowledges it, but in the carpet ripping episode he's happy to actually see it (more than through a bullet hole).
Also, the joke in that episode is that everyone was under the effect of a lot of caffeine. So everything they were doing and SAYING was nuts...
angela wasn’t a wreck bc the senator her cats were taken
that & depression is also a real thing lol, people go manic like that I've seen it before
Didnt she also have to take care of her kid?
she basically lost everything at that point so there’s multiple reasons really
She was a wreck when she still had her cats in the apartment.
@Strawberrymilk nope your wrong the scene where she's at the apartment all her cats are everywhere even in the play pen with philup, she's already a wreck. Then cats get taking away then she loses apartment all to get her. Her gradual decline was important to make her the likable Angela that everyone loved at the end.
Michael Scott’s hair was slicked back in the first season to pay tribute to David Brent of the Office UK. Just like how the Pilot episode is almost word for word exactly the same as the Pilot of the Office UK, and how Michael also did not wear a suit coat just like David Brent.
It was also to make Michael less likeable
I don’t really think so. A tribute in the first season? I’m pretty sure that was just the hairstyle back then.
Yolky well, the first episode is exactly the same as the UK first episode, almost word for word, so I think they also wanted Michael to look like David Brent with the slicked back hair and no suit coat. So they just kept it the rest of the season
Steve Carell got hair plugs when he started making that office money.
It was also styled that way to really make him look like he was going bald. They later realized Michael read as more sad/pathetic than they intended, so he became more conventionally handsome by the second season.
I've just noticed than on "Secretary Day" Andy says "If it wasn’t for secretaries I wouldn’t have a stepmom" but their parents are still married, they split on season 9 when Andy goes on that 3 month boat trip
No no no no no. I can’t even watch this long enough to find out if they have all my inconsistencies, because they started out with the volleyball thing which just adds to the plot, for me. Meredith saying she’s creeped out by Jim after he rejects her would make sense. And yeah, reusing actors or switching them up does not count at all. I was here for things like Meredith alternately having one or two kids, Dwight’s parents existing at the beginning but not later, stuff like that. I’m not even gonna make it that far because I’m annoyed by the non points.
The thing that annoyed me the most was that Dwight lied about going to the dentist when he was going behind Michael’s back, but later acted like he had no idea adults could go to the dentist.
He believed only kids go to the dentist for teeth cleaning I believe, and not adults, but then again, when he said he was going to the dentist, he claimed it was for an emergency crown, so I think he would go to the dentist if it was absolutely necessary.
Well it's a very common reason to come into work late. Whether or not he believes in adults going to a dentist. It creates a valid and believable excuse .
also, dwight lied about going to the dentist but freaked out when Jim lied about doing jury work
@vitormartins3773 I mean. Dwight just looking to get fired for anything lol. But Jim took a whole week off where Dwight took a morning to do business related things
Also did y’all notice how Jim’s office just appears when he becomes co manager?
Smruthi Garlapati ikr
yesssssss. i was so confused ab that
Crazy how building things works
they mention they built one and even if they didnt it really isnt that hard to build an office like that one
If a company assumed a new co manager. And they took their job seriously in real life, you know kinda how jimmdoes his job, then a new office would be erected practically over night for them.
I've heard with andy's first parent were paid actors so that everyone can think that they were proud of him and the second time was his actual parents
When Pam went to join the Michael Scott paper company, yeah she doesn't talk it through with Jim first, but he's clearly aware of it and soon as she's decided. Not really the same situation
8:20 Maybe within 4 years, a change of ownership in the building, and a change of ownership of the company they got a new cleaning crew at some point
The cleaning crew where I work changes like every couple months for some reason
Adam Nordmark same explanation for the alcohol policy
Adam Nordmark true
Is that actually Dwight's house?
@@sadia64210 I assumed that was just everyone ignoring Toby since they got away with it that first time.
The hardwood floor one was because they were high off caffeine
Also he says "I always knew it was here, I just never thought I'd actually get to see it."
In season 8 episode 15 titled “Tallahassee” after the group (including Stanley) leave for Florida. After realizing it’s too quiet in the office. Pam noticed that Erin set the phone to voicemail and changes it. Shortly after the phone starts to ring. Pam and Andy fight over who should answer it. Everyone in the office starts yelling at them it answer the phone and you can hear Stanley say “answer the damn phone”. Around 5:20 into the episode
No, Stanley said that when Jim was trying to train Kevin to transfer the call. After that scene, they cut to Andy's talking head where he said his maid was dead.
Imagine comparing actors physical appearance to their character’s “lore”
Also: A character from Glee appears in an episode as a pizza delivery boy. And later in the series the whole office watches an episode of Glee at a party
Yes he plays a dude in a wheelchair but then Michael mentions that the kid in the wheelchair is his favourite character as a nod to the actor
@@meneertje25 Ohhhhhh. I didn't notice that!
Bradley cooper is mentioned which implies e existence of the hangover in the office universe
This happens in a lot of shows like DC legends. They mention that Supernatural is a show when 5 characters from their show play in that show
Shit I knew he looked familiar, but I haven't watched Glee since... 2012?
When Michael said that he missed the college parties, he was trying to fit in as part of the group
Or he went to them but didnt attend college
@@GunnLeonn its micheal. he probably wasn't invited to any so he would throw his own parties and eat dangerous amount of guac when nobody showed up
100%
exactly i would have commented this
The person who made this video doesn't seem to really ''get'' a lot of the jokes and character quirks and instead thinks they're plot holes.
The strangler was confirmed to be the guy that was convicted. Toby had his doubts so when he went to visit the convict he got strangled in the same way
4 minutes of inconsistencies, 12 minutes of comparing moments of a character that developed over the run of the show
Erin gave andy the computer because she liked him
College for Michael Scott - it's obviously the character lying to fit in when he says he went... I never got the impression he actually went to college...
atcdude067 yeah same
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
There's a scene where Scott said "That kids not going to college" or along the lines of that and Darryl replied "Hey uh what college did you go to Michael?" sarcastically and there was an awkward silence before they went off.. Sorry I'm foggy on the scene and what se/ep it was but I'm sure those who watched know what scene I'm referring to. Sooo anyway yeah something isn't adding up lol
Not only that, but in "The Fire" Michael talks about how we worked up the business chain, starting out as a lowly, minimum wage waiter at a restaurant, heavily implying he never attended college the whole time.
Also, in another episode (I forgot which one), Michael talks about how he lost all of his tuition money in an elaborate pyramid scheme.
yeah he just lied. the video maker doesnt know what hes talking abt
Missed one! The door between Merideth and Oscar's desk. In the fire episode, they try to use it to escape. But later in the series, the boom guy comes out of it revealing it as a closet.
Some of these are wrong.
Kevin only asked Stanley if she washed his hands, because he was trying to accuse Stanley of anything.
It would make perfect sense that the kid who participated in the Dwight's hey game is also his nephew.
Oscar could have forgotten that there was hardwood under the carpet since he only examined it for a second, and it was a while later that they tore up the carpet.
Also, when they tore up the carpet, weren't they high on espresso?
Dwight has not seen every single movie. It's okay to not know Pretty Women.
It makes absolute sense that they switched Meredith to supplier relations. Still, it's most likely a mistake.
Dwight could have dyed his hair because he thought it was a good idea, even though he knew that Jim was pranking him.
This isn't an explanation, but the fact that Angela is so close with her sister could be a perfect sign that they recently finally made peace. Ya know what I mean?
Pam was disappointed that Jim took the job in Philadelphia because she wanted to stay in Scranton. She didn't care about what job he had.
Also, she went with Michael before she had kids, right?
Wasn't Erin into Andy? Isn't that why she wanted to give away her computer?
Stanley doesn't have diabetes. He accepted the reward because it was offered to him. The joke is that everyone is constantly saying that he has diabetes to the point where Michael gave him an award for it. That's what I originally thought, and it made perfect sense.
Character development = plot hole?
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Maybe an... inconsistency?
@@mortyexplains nope
john actually did accidentally sign his real name on meredith's cast
We been know it’s in the video
Delicious Food i was confirming! thanks lol
@@dwightschrute5883 bears beats Battlestar Galactica
That's not how the real Dwight would speak. Dwight isn't black.
@@scotthelm7558 Black isn't a language
The reason Oscar rereacted to the hardwood floor is because they were all pretty much oding on caffeine if that can happen 😂😂
"all waitresses look the same" amazing joke couldnt mean anything else
How could my beloved The Office ever have racist jokes!? It must be about them being waitresses! Yes! Of course!
@@cleverman383 no im damn sure they mentioned the joke earlier in the episode, maybe you should rewatch the episode
About half of these are inconsistencies and about half are just things that happened and character developement.
Did you read the video title?
RubberBoy II I’m saying that about half of these are with the title and the others aren’t
I'm happy if even half were worth anyone's time ! Will try harder next time to get the other half right 😆
chadnisha Im sorry that so many people can’t accept that one of their favorite shows have errors in it. I love The Office and have watched every episode a minimum of 3 times. I really enjoyed this video and thought you did a great job.
@@matthewperez1057 such kind words thank you so much I really appreciate it !
9:27 In the episode where Dwight tricks Angela into getting married to him, he mentions that Angela has “sisters” (plural)
she probably doesn't talk about them because maybe they're "whorish" or not religious enough like Angela.
Olivia there’s a running theory that Angela grew up in an extremely religious home of cultish proportions, so her family might be more crazy and conservative in their ways than she is. It might explain her extreme hypocrisy (calling people whores and sleeping with multiple people without remorse, being rude, lying). It would also explain why she might be estranged from her sister
Just watched the episode and couldn't find that quote. He didnt mention her "sisters"
@@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 Season 5 Episode 10 "The Surplus" 10:33 seconds left in the episode he says to Angela "After all the readings from your sisters" with sisters in plural, meaning multiple sisters.
Obviously Pam played Volleyball in high school. That would mean she was good enough at it, to be markedly better than people who never played, but could also easily mean she played for 4 years but ditched practice often with a fake PMS reason. Like 4 years of relatively consistent practice would look like an experienced player to somebody who held a volleyball for the first time. This is the opposite of a plot hole. It's more a nice consistency throwback.
How is it hard to believe a student volleyball player wouldn't pretend to have PMS to get out of one or two practices?
You can watch over 240 movies and never watch Pretty Woman. I am also one of those people. But, I am nothing like Dwight lol. Or am I?
TinnieTa21 I’ve never watched Pretty Women either
tut tut tut.
There are more than 240 movies better than pretty woman, and you can live your whole life without watching it.
I've seen it a lot because I was born in the 80s and I had like 50 movies in vhs growing up. Some I watched once a month, like star wars or back to the future, others never, like fried green tomatoes, and others once in a while, like pretty woman or four weddings and a funeral. Unlike the latter, which I learn to love more as an adult than ever before, I haven't seen pretty woman since then. It's a nice little story about prostitutes being people too and that's about it. If you like julia roberts but hate whores this is a good movie for you to learn not to be such as douchebag to them, cause they're just like you, and me, and julia.
But if you are a normal person who already knows that you can't treat prostitutes like shit, whether they look like julia roberts or not, then you don't need to watch this movie.
At this point in 2019 the only reason to watch this movie is just to avoid somebody saying "You never seen pretty woman?!", and then having to listen to that person talk about it like you've been wasting your entire life.
But no. I'm pretty sure there were even 240 movies better than that one in 1990 alone.
I just imagine you looked at the camera like Dwight when you said 'or am I' 😂
This is how I feel about having not watched the movie “Mean Girls”, “Pulp Fiction”, “Breakfast Club” and some other claimed movie classics
Now watch this comment thread turn on me in 3 . . . 2 . . .
the "who started first" one with Jim and Pam was so crazy
To me it was obvious that Pam started first and she had known Michael for ages. Also, she had been engaged to Roy for 3 yrs in the beginning of the series and they must have met in the Office. Jim was just starting out at that point.
@@katalinventilla1915 I though Roy and Pam had been dating since highschool
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@@alia.1041 yes but the engagement is 3 years old
Also, regarding Andy's parents, I remember him once mentioning how his maid became his step mom, implying that Andy's dad had an affair and then divorced Andy's mom, but then obviously later, his parents are still together.
No his maid died. 😂
11:15 did you seriously say "Late in the series when we find out they're all subjects of the documentary"??? I've never known anyone who was so clueless about the premise of the show!! It's ABUNDANTLY obvious right from the first 3 minutes of season 1 episode 1 that they're in a documentary. And every 3 to 5 minutes in EVERY episode they keep reminding you that it's a documentary when the characters look at the camera, and they do "talking heads". I can't wrap my head around how in the world you went that long without understanding it.
Exactly
In reference to the hardwood flooring, Oscar says something like"I always knew it was under here. I just never thought I'd see it." He knew it was there. Not a plot hole
Also to add, Tobys mentioned that "hr is a joke" meaning nobody takes him seriously, so he probubly just gave up telling them no alcohol.
"erin, hr is a joke. i can't do anything about anything." poor toby
Also the company change
This was a massive time gap though
I have noticed the IT guy thing and my guess is since he was in IT he was just giving career guidance related to various jobs involving computer which includes graphic design as its used in web design. Also he could be doing it as a side job.
Let's not forget the pizza delivery guy who Michael trapped in the office, that actor then went on to play a character in Glee which the viewing party episode is what they are all watching
The first one isnt really a mistake tho? Maybe she meant she skipped a FEW classes of it but still, she played in junior high and college so that would still make sense as to why shes so good.
Also, Pam looks to be serving a jump serve in volleyball, which is different from a standing serve. The tutorial this person used as reference was for a standing serve. Her form looks to be okay.
Yeah just like me. I play football and have played for 10 years, but I don't like it in school cus my class is wild and they don't know how to play
Agreed. You can skip a couple " go through the motions" JHS practices and still be good. Lol
Also gym volleyball is different than sporting volleyball lol
I did that with basketball a lot too. I dont get this guy's point...
9:59 that's clearly the exact same house just with the shrubs and flowers landscaped better in the second shot...
was looking for this comment! how did he think the houses were different?
thank you!! my girlfriend and i were comparing them and they’re definitely the same
We used to have 2 different doors; one that was more “insulated” for the winter and one for spring, summer, and fall.
This guy included a ton of iffy "inconsistencies"
Good call mate. That is the same house. It looks different because in this episode Jim gets the home for Pam and him to live in but the house wasn't in great condition and had some strange things like a picture of a clown not only hung on the wall but nailed in place. A, "fixer-upper", for sure. However Pam was happy because it was something to build upon. The second photo is the outcome of their restoration and shows good attention to detail. Not an inconsistency at all.
When Michael rides his bike into work, he looks like he’s constantly about to fall off. He still probably didn’t know how to ride a bike.
The doctor told Dwight he was not Phillip's father but Angela tells him he is.
When Darryl's friends tell him they want to dance, but Stanley is there too when he wasn't friends with any of them except Phyllis.
Someone who looks like Jan would NEVER get with someone who looks like Clarke.
Y'all clearly have no knowledge of volleyball. The jump serve is the best way to serve but also the hardest
Brit Gilpin exactly!
her form was still iffy but yea I jump float all the time and I was the best server on the team my Junior and Senior years
Her form is complete trash
Mathew Murdock that’s probably because she’s an ACTOR playing in a fictional show and didn’t play volleyball in real life but in the show
Mariah J. Well I gotta take what Happens In the show as fact
The reason why Pam's painting was gone was because in a deleted scene Erin tries to clean Pam's painting and ruins Pam's painting
Wait what episode was that?
It's deleted Scenes
@@samlikeshams wait but what episode was pams painting gone?
@@emmagrace4351 I not sure but it's past when Michael gets told by Andy and Dwight that he talked to a mafia person
@@samlikeshams oh ok thanks
10:00 that house is definitely the same house, just slightly remodelled. The window to the left of the door, along with the awning, roof, doorbell and walkway are all identical to the earlier shot.
Pam and Volleyball : perhaps she played so much and so often that Eventually she faked conditions, to try and not participate as much.
Meredith and Jim: I think she always thought Jim flirted with her, and when he dated and married Pam. She created the disillusion, that she never even wanted Jims attention, and therefore he is creepy, for the not being reciprocal.
Oscar: Oscar was simply playing hoops with Darryl. In the later season Oscar is deliberately performing poorly to allow his warehouse crush, to win.
Meredith: perhaps she was offered a title promotion (perhaps after being struck by her manager, on office grounds). Also it is not impossible that Michael simply didnt know or remember her position.
Dwight and kid: Dwight is quite capable of ripping off his own nephew, I am sure. Lol.
Dwight and restroom: eventually his latrine under the porch could have fulfilled its usefulness and was replaced by the outhouse.
Dwight and movies: 240 is not the largest amount, of movies. Perhaps he was lying to Andy, and pulled a stat out of his hat. Perhaps he just has never seen it.
Kevin and girlfriend: she could wear glasses for only near/far sight. She could be wearing contacts, or had corrective surgery.
Kevin and washed hands: after being called out so many times, perhaps Kevin wishes to be the one dishing it, instead of receiving it.
Michael and facehole: probably Dwight grabbed a mag and refloated the concrete when everyone was left, as it was improper, and a form of vandalism
A lot of indisputable plotholes I didnt catch. Pams start date, for one. Some I noticed, but didnt take note. Such as Andys parents. Good video either way.
Thank you this whole video is kinda dumb.
In the Benihana episode, the bringing the different asian waitresses back was intentional to show Michael couldn't tell the difference between the girls.
Where u read this? Cuz they still pointed that out with the second pair of Asian girls when Michael marked her... Why would they need to change them when they literally made a point of it ... That makes no sense.... Its either a stereo type belief in casting or it was a split filming/reshoot and the original girls couldn't come back for it... Makes no sense to go to that extent to make a point... Gonna have to see some articles that indicates this
@@KDotO79 It’s literally obvious
@@EM-wo6wfI looked this up and no it's not obvious at you say... in fact it wasn't like what she wrote at all? Atleast from what the actress, producers and writers all indicate.
It is said that in the first storyline... they were supposed to be different waitresses, uglier ones indicating Michael and Andy failed at picking them up and had to settle for less .
During filming they realize that the new asian waitresses was to pretty to play the role they intended for in the storyline so they made them out to be the same ones instead and continue with the storyline of Micheal confusing the two.... This is directly from the creator mouth and one of the Asian actress.
This is an excerpt from in an article - The episode was shot in a real Benihana restaurant. According to the show's prop master, different actresses were used because Andy and Michael failed to pick up the original waitresses, and settled for "less attractive ones". At Paley Fest 2007, Greg Daniels admitted that the joke failed due to poor casting. The waitresses that comes to the office were supposed to be unattractive. Daniels stated that the actresses they hired for the role were "too good-looking"...
So yeah how bout we find out the facts and not use the obvious when sometimes the most obvious is not the correct answer. So instead of coming in this thread and telling me it's obvious next time look that shit up before you comment bud. Google is your friend. Use it instead of looking like a dumb ass.
Maybe Andy invited different people because his parents didn't want to.
Or his Mum divorced
I think that was his brother maybe, since he was named Walter but then that name was given to his brother.
Andy's dad ran off with another woman in season 8 didn't he? Or was the scene shown from a previous season. I honestly dont even remember.
Someone else pointed out it looks a bit like the guy who plays Sweeney Todd, which would make it make sense that he’s a paid actor... but then the whole “he was just a plumber” thing wouldn’t have worked.
I think Oscar was pretending to be bad at basketball so he could spend time with his crush
5:25 context is important i think. hes clearly intoxicated and hes probably running off adrenaline from asking his crush to hang out, i think it makes perfect sense he’d be pretty shoddy
If you did any actual “research”, some of these are ridiculous 😂😂😂
“In season 1, Jim drank water but in season 7, he drank a soda......”
Jesse James wtf does that even mean... he doesn’t even say that
@@elliotmell3185 he's giving a sarcastic example to prove a point idiot
Sebastian Daniels thank you haha
Sebastian Daniels that’s a little rude 😔
The_Amazing_MELLon it’s a little true
Also, when Andy first gets transferred he’s the director of sales (something like that) but later in the show he’s a terrible salesman??
Great point ! Thanks for sharing !
yeah and they also said that he outsells phyllis, but in the later seasons he almost does as bad as Pam???? nani
That's actually not a plot hole. It's called an inconsistency. But yeah, I noticed that too.
someone getting promoted for something they're not good at is not unrealistic in the slightest; have you ever seen a manager in real life?
@@ce7.0 Exactly. And he was a big suck up to Josh in Stamford, who allowed Call of Duty in their Office and had Andy on his team. Totally plausible.
i think that the thing with angela is that she were financially stable. but when she dated/ married the senator it changed cause she had now mor money. maybe she spend a lot of her savings or whatever. so it does make sense if you think about it. also a divorce is pretty expensive as much as i know.
You lost me on the first example. Pam isn't being inconsistent by being good at something she lied to get out of on several occasions. It stands to reason the more you do something the better you'll be at it. And the more you do something the more monotonous it will become for you, especially if you don't have a burning passion for it. You, sir, have failed this office fan. XD
scrolled a lot to find my thoughts on that take. so thank you ! being good at something doesnt mean it never sucked...
1:45 I think Meredith doesn't like Jim because he didn't reciprocate her feelings for him
Yeah though she never seemed spiteful towards Michael despite him rejecting and being openly repulsed by her
I think it was just a joke
@@Aj-vm3hy did u pay attention to their interactions
6:24 I'm not 100% sure, but knowing Michael it's very possible that on the 4th date he attempted to propose, and the 9th date he did it again.
8:26 Its very much possible that there are multiple different cleaning groups, especially since the building is semi big. It's possible to groups come every night, or switch off
Carol may also say just any random number meaning that he proposed to her very early on. It wouldn't make sense for her to remember the exact number of dates years later.
Also They could have hired a new crew.
@@stinkylee306 contract renewals are often yearly and they could have easily gone with a different company that put in a lower bid.
I think Jim and Pams' house is actually the same it just showed the house being dingy before, and then they cleaned it up, re-sod the grass, cut down the tree and put hedges in front.
8:33 There is literally a scene a few seconds after showing the face hole in the cement where a construction worker flattens it out.
I played volleyball in highschool and her pose is quite normal for a serve jumping while serving makes it a more powerful serve lol
Linizzle ohmygod thissssss. I was hoping someone said something about that.
Linizzle ikr! this guy is kinda dumb lmao
Some people just have their own type of jump serve this dude obviously hasn't seen high school volleyball lol😂😂
It wasnt a perfect jump serve, but that's definitely not a plothole.
It was definitely the jump serve of an actress who was forced into trying one with no training
Of course Erin would give Andy her computer. She liked him....
Exactly! She gave it to him because she was in love with him!
And besides, even if Erin _thinks_ she is a badass who grew up all tough and mean, we know she is really a Sweetheart's Sweetheart! 💞👼
Freyja Cooper How is she a whore?
Freyja Cooper
Wtf? She is literally the sweetest
@@paprika8334 Ice hated her ever since she played with Andy the way she did. So she dates him, then dumps him and dates Gabe, then dumps Gabe and tries to get back with Andy, but he has a new girlfriend, and she runs away. Andy realises he likes her and goes to get her back, breaking up with the other girlfriend. Then he goes on his boat trip, and she no longer likes him. She pretty much cheats on him with Pete, and starts treating Andy poorly. She calls him juvenile when she's the most immature person there. So then she breaks up with him and dates Pete. I know Andy wasn't the best in the end, but still. I've hated her since Pete
Freyja Cooper
People break up. Every relationship isn’t going to be all sunshine and rainbows. In reality some people date multiple people before actually falling in love/ finding the right person.
She was never head over heels in love with Gabe, she found him quite revolting actually and that’s why she broke up with him. She wasn’t happy with him and he could be quite possessive.
Now Andy and Erin were just adorable. Once they started to date they were just perfect, but people change and that’s exactly what Andy did. He messed up and left her for months (never told her when he was coming back + didn’t even invite her) He rarely communicated with her over the few months he was on vacation (i think he sent her only one email while he was away) Over these few months she reevaluated her relationship and grew to dislike Andy which was justified because who leaves for months without communicating. She felt as if he forgot about her.
Over this time period she met her other half but did not want to believe that he could actually be *that special person* and wanted to stay Devoted to Andy even though he was an ass. But the heart wants what it wants and it didn’t want Andy. She was hesitant to breaking up with him but she put on her Brave face and did it.
I don’t think that ^ is the definition of Thot, my dude.
Michaels condo got a slight remodel so I could see how you would think it was a different place but, Jim and Pam definitely have the same the same house. It even still has the same doorbell if you look closely.
A lot of interesting points were made in this video but I feel like most of them can either be easily explained of are just wrong. Still a great vid tho.