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Some say Peter Ebdon is still feathering at the 2012 Welsh Open semifinals
Hahaha came here to say this 😂
Not quite sure but I think I saw him making a break of 12 just the other day
@@markus8899 yeah i remember when he started that break, ah the good ol' times.
Lol
I heard he is still feathering at the Hexagon arena, Reading 1993 Grand Prix
Thanks Steve. I know my feathers vary per shot, but have not known why- until now! It just seems natural (for me) to feather differently depending on how much ‘action’ is required on the cue ball. Good to see there’s nearly 1000 views in the 1st hour. Top man!!
Hi Steve. Glad you chose this topic. Its not talked about as much as other snooker issues. Not by instructors or players pro`s or amateurs. Enjoyed it . Thank you.😀
I think one of the biggest improvements in my game from watching your videos has been that I push the cue through smoothly now. I didn't realise how much I was jabbing at shots and not following through until watching you play shots on videos like this. Thanks!
Cheers Sam!
Yet again, another excellent and informative video. The variety of videos and helpful tips has really helped me with my all round game. Thanks!
Its out of the topic but it has been 2 years I’ve played snooker without proper knowledge, technique and mindset and i faced a lot of difficulties in lengthening my break above 8. I thought i was going nowhere. But recently after 2nmonths and half watching your videos and implementing it in my snooker basis, i just did the highest break of my snooker journey which was a break of 40 against my friends. I WAS SO EXCITED AND PROUD OF MYLSEF. AND A LOT OF THANKS TO YOU FOR POSTING THIS KIND OF VIDEOS. I LOVE YOU! LOTS OF LOTS OF LOVE TO YOU ❤️❤️
Fun fact, they couldn’t believe i did that. They say I’ve improved a lot. Like a break of 20 i can manage it without having trouble no more not like i used to. It all comes from you Steve, without your videos I can’t even do it till i die i guess 🥺
Wow from 8 to 40 in just 2 months! That's as good as 7 time world champion Steven Hendry, who managed to get his first 50 break in just 3 months. You are a monster talent! I've been playing 3 years, practice every day, and my break is just 36. Keep at it, and we will see you on TV. :D
i used to very my feathers. i started just sticking to 3 feathers on every shot and i have improved from that. i feel as though i trained my mind to reach the peak of focus at the final stroke through the ball by sticking to 3 feathers. that's been my experience with this.
I always seem to do more feathers the further away the shot is to gauge my aim. But then if I over feather I have to step back and start again, call it superstition
Great video, not having a pop either maybe u were just doing it quickly butwhen u were re spotting the black it wasnt inline with the brown blue and pink by quite a bit.
Hi mate I'm 14 and my highest break in a game is 72 and 108 in practice hopefully I can make a century at the end of the year
I'm sure you will! Well done on your highest breaks! They are fantastic!
good luck with your snooker little man go get em
@@seanrochford3161 thanks Sean appreciate it
Really great advice as always. I used to concentrate too much on exactly how many feathers. Since I stopped thinking about it I've improved.
Awesome stuff! Always wanted videos like these that are important but not much ppl talking about! Please keep up! Thanks!
Fascinating subject. Thank you!
Hey there, just a random question. Will lifting weights effect our cueing/gameplay in snooker?
Do you have an idea of the pace of the white before you start to feather? Or do you calculate pace whilst feathering? I'm talking about shots in between hard and soft.
This vids helps loads if you’re confused about your feathering and feel natural varying
I’m new to snooker but I am an above average pool player trying to acquire snooker skills. I find standing behind the cue ball and watching the angle of the shot and aligning while getting down on the shot to make the pot provides a true line of site to the pocket and my stroke is more accurate without feathers. In fact, feathers seems to allow errors in straight back and forth to the line of the shot w/cue tip causing near misses on very long or delicate shots. I feel the need to lock in to the shot and make the pot smoothly without any unnecessary movement. Would you please comment on this quirk of mine.
Another good and helpful video, thank you. I tend to forget to feather as I’m thinking to much on the shot but I will try and do feathering now as it will help a bit. Thanks again for your video, look forward to your next one.
Hi Steve, another great video explaining the concepts clearly and concisely. Please keep up this great series. It is very inspiring for me.
Best regards
Paul
When I think about how many feathers I do, I always lose my timing!
Exactly right Paul! So just as I say in this video, as long as you know WHY you are doing them, you can do whatever feels natural for you.
I noticed on your routine line break that on the black which you needed to put top left on the cue ball you caught the table with your follow through. is that normal for you as i often do that and feel its a poor shot when i do it...... Great help and advice by the way especially for us aspiring break builders.
Hi! It sometimes happens for me yes, because I drop my elbow after the delivery (and I've kept the cue very flat to the table as I'm applying topspin), occasionally when using a bit of power, the cue might catch the table towards the end of the follow through. So I don't mind it happening on certain shots. It's only going present itself when playing topspin and using a bit of power.
Dunno why but those three feathers made the whole shot process feel awkward in my head?. Definitely feel more comfortable doing it the other way.
Also like to add, anyone watching this and thinking about taking some lessons. I was on edge for the first session, having somebody watching you can make you feel uncomfortable BUT Steve made that feeling go away pretty fast, he's been a massive help in me improving my game and definitely would recommend paying him a visit if you're even remotely interested in playing👍
Many thanks Martin! That's really appreciated 🙂
I certainly prefer to feather in a more natural way!
True, can't recommend taking lessons with Barton snooker enough, had 2 more sessions last week and while it of course brings out your flaws it can only benefit your game.
The only way to way to improve is to know what your issues are and work on those.
Off subject a bit, could you tell me if there is a way of telling if you are flicking a bit of unwanted side or cueing across the ball, say on a shot like a long blue of the baulk line near the yellow side, when I miss it's always just to the left of the pocket.
Love this very useful info mate ❤
Hi, how do we define feathers? Alignment, cue action, rhythm and tempo, ...
Very nice illustration
Thank you for giving us so many video about snooker.
I got improve even I am not a young player.
Intresting video and something I struggle with myself. What I notice you feather about 75% of the length of to backswing of the final shot
Murphy in fact does barely two feathers each shot: One - back - Two(usually v small) - back - Hit! I think having a set number does help avoid something like a golfers twitch where they can't hit the ball which I believe does affect some snooker players especially on screw shots.
lsbrother he does but it’s the way he falls into the shot! He does 3 or 4 but a few lil ones right on the white!
Your videos are awsome and keep me entertained for hours.
I'm a very attacking player and play the shot which feels the most natural.
My highest break: 8
What I am missing is talking about the length of the feathers. Should the length of the feathers match the length of the backswing you intend deliver the shot with? As in, with a power shot (full length backswing) should the feathers also be the same? Or should the feathers generally be short?
@07:50 playing the deep screw shot the feathers are much shorter than the delivery.
Like I talk about in the video, you do whatever you need to do to feel comfortable with the shot you're playing. The length of feathers doesn't matter, just do whatever feathers helps you to prepare for the shot you're playing. That's unique to every player.
did shooting stroke must longer than feather stroke, and why?
Everywhere you go, always take the feathers with you.
Last question...which system do you use? Consistent feathering or based on difficulty? Thank you as always for your wonderfully insightful videos.
I feather based on the difficulty. Just get a feel on each shot.
I know roughly the pace before I even get down, but then the precise pace is decided using my feathers.
Imagine trying to throw a screwed up ball of paper into a bin. You know roughly before you throw it, but then you get a little feel before you actually throw it! Exactly the same thing with a snooker shot.
@@BartonSnooker Thank you for replying. So you already have the shot lined up and the point of contact on the white...and the feathering is all about feel, and the final calculations of pace. Easier said than done of course. I need to practice more! :D
@@DrumsTheWord yeah, that's exactly right. Like you say, easier said than done. But that's like you playing the drums. You can give someone the theory, but then all the touch and feel is down to their own practice.
@@BartonSnooker Indeed.
Interesting! I'm going to experiment with restricting myself to three feathers, and see if that discipline improves my action. On a related note - (sorry if you've done a video on this) - why do so many pros twitch/tap the middle figure of their bridge hand, whilst down on the shot?
Players don't even know they're doing it! It just helps a little bit with "timing" and "feel" on the shot.
Isn’t it also to get a negative feel for the shot , meaning you’ve decided what to shoot, where and how hard, then you take two feathers and ...no...something feels wrong, it’s not quite going to go where you originally thought so you reevaluate
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Good video. Plenty of information to take in. But I have a question. Not about feathers. When I play a shot that I think needs side on it. Do I have to compensate for the amount of side I put on the white ball. EG, if it’s a thin cut shot , with lots of left side on it do I hit the object ball a bit thicker than normal , to save over cutting the shot ?.
Yes, that's exactly right in your example! 👍
First thing is of course improving your own game. But, on a tactical point, is it wise to show your opponent if you find a certain kind of shot difficult? May that be a reason some players always do same number? (Good players, that is - I struggle with all kinds of shots and you don't need to count my feathers to figure that out...).
I don't think they'd notice. Have you ever noticed Ronnie giving a particular shot more attention for example? Probably not! He just does a couple of extra feathers to make sure.
@@BartonSnooker You're probably right. Maybe they focus on what shots their opponent actually misses. I will certainly do so when I face Ronnie...
Impressive content that u gives us it helps to improve my game recently I made 61 break in ever while I m start playing Snooker from 2013
Always perfect explanations!
Why do I pot better without feathering ? After missing many pots I decided not to feather at all and instantly started potting consistently ....
I was just having this conversation with my buddy couple days ago haha
Just wondering what kind of cue tips do you use? Soft, medium or hard?
Great video, as usual, but I find feathering much more difficult when the cue ball is tight up to the cushion. What would you suggest I (or anyone) does to ensure feathering is solid on the cushion? Shorter practice strokes?
Spot on yeah! A bit shorter and a bit more careful.
I was watching eddie charlton on here the other day and he was feathering 15 times on each shot!
Hi Steve, would like to ask you about the feathers, I'm 51 years old been playing snooker for many years now and love the game as much as anyone can 😊My highest breaks are 89 & 82, I've had a few 70's and 60's breaks along the line. I have never counted my feathers, Do you think if i started to count my game could go up another level ? Would be interested to know your opinion as you are alot better at this wonderful game than i am ! Best wishes to you Steve!😊😊😊 Ian
Hi Ian,
It really depends on your overall approach and routine when lining up, addressing and playing shots. If you're already standing behind the shot properly, getting down, checking your aiming, and getting a feel for the shot, I don't see how counting the numbers of feathers you do would give you any benefit.
For some players it can help, but for others I've seen counting being detrimental, because you're loosing flow and rhythm and purely counting for the sake of it.
Have a play around with it though. See what you find works better for you. Would you prefer it to be a set number each time, or do you prefer to let it happen naturally and not overthink it. Try it out 🙂
@@BartonSnooker Thank you Steve for your reply! I think I've always been a player that's just let's it happen automatically , I think if you have too much going on in your head when your on the shot, its doesn't work, well i mean doesn't work for me 😊my main focus has mainly been, keeping my head still and keeping the cue level with the table. Once again, thank you Steve for the fabulous videos that you do😊😊😊😊Ian
I do a different amount on each shot I think...and when Im ready to play the shot I play it. I used to do three but it didn’t feel right for me.
kindly do a tutorial video on ... how to play swerve shot
The best coach is Back with another great upload 🤝
Many thanks 🙂
Yes I agree, Steve is so good at coaching all round. By far # 1 cheers.
@@scott7706 thank you very much. It's much appreciated 🙂
This is Salman from Pakistan
I am watching your all videos.
Please tell me how I can do the straight cueing.
What about the length of the feathers in relation to the strength of the shot?
Doesn't make sense to me to feather full length and on the final backswing pull 1/4 of the full length and have a soft shot ... for example
Like I talk about in the video. You do whatever feathers you feel you need to do so that you feel comfortable on the shot. Whatever feathers and shot preparation feels comfortable for you, do that!
Carmine, if your worried about feathers try not using them to get in the habit of straight cuing after you feel lined up when getting down on the shot. Adding extra motion after proper alignment seems ludicrous to me.
Interesting that Marco fu doesn’t do feathers
samuel kerruish I think It is because the problem of his eye and he try to play as quick as possible to prevent his eyes get tired
@@henrymui1532 Fu has not been feathering since his early career years.
Same with Dave Harold
Anyone remembers Alex Higgins?
dear where should be the chin and shoulder position from front angle please make a video on this
Hey thanks for the great video well I noticed in video the shot around 7:30 to 7:40 you deliver the shot and cue touched the cushion although the shot went in it happens with me most of the time can u please guide me
Hi! You don't really want that to happen too much. I didn't hit that shot very well. You always want enough of a gap so that the cue doesn't drop too much and hit the cushion.
Excellent video!
Thanks Steve. I’m always fouling the cue ball when I feather as close as you do. Any remedy to that other than new eyes!!
Ha! New eyes would be good. I think maybe two things:
- feather a bit slower
- bit of extra practice to get used to controlling the feathers more accurately
BartonSnooker thanks good point. I go quicker if I’m using pace on the cue ball. Maybe too quick!
I’m not a bad player but keep missing easy shots maybe it’s a sign of age lol but I’m going to try sticking to 3 feathers on every shot next time I play
Hi, I have a proplem whit my stands my right knee hurts after half an hour playing I am using the standard stand. Could someone help me, please.
Feathers are so important? Tony Drago begs to differ
I only feather, shot never happens
Should have done ebdons!!!
I normally feathers until I feel happy for the shot. But I have noticed I have a bad attitude (I'm not sure whether this is good or the other way). No matter how hard the shot is, I will take a long back swing (until my tip reaches my bridge hand).
And I like to move the middle finger of my bridge hand when I'm feathering.
Feels like it's a rhythm for me.
All sounds good. Nice smooth backswing. Tapping the finger helps timing. All good 🙂
It hink this is a ritual that you do because you think it makes you feel better. Kind of like praying for a cancer patient. If that's your particular supersticion you are free to engage in them but no matter how much you you rationalise it it doest make the measuarable effect any higher.
I play snooker nearly 3 years now and I can't even make 20 breaks I do everything right but I can't make my game better please help me Steve.
Change ur mentality 😉
When u go down too the table say I'm going too pot this in ur head and more likely u will
My advice would be don't overthink it. Play often enough that all the advice you're seeing in videos like this becomes second nature, so you can focus on potting the ball and getting position.
Unless the pink is wrong
Is your table very slow? The white seems to come to a stop pretty quick.
No! Very fast in fact. It has the most expensive tournament cloth on there and I have it changed once a year 🙂
Tq sir..👍
Again great video 👍
My non-feather shot is better/more accurate than feathered shot...not sure why
hi long cut practice video share pl.
I notice you were lining and walking into the shot slower and precisely when you were limited to 3 feathers. Limiting your feathers can limit you when down on the shot and it can make you rush a shot. Do what comes natural. limited feathering or a rule to it, what a mind F.
are you still active on twitter mate?
I don't use it that much to be honest Nathan. It's hard to find time to go on there now.
Just out of interest Steve did you teach yourself to do three feathers or did it just come naturally?
I never count my feathers. I do as many as I need until I feel prepared for the shot and feel comfortable. I do some practice 'waggles', then once I'm happy I stop, then do the backswing and delivery.
I never advise counting the feathers. That's not what they're for. They're for feel and reassurance that you're hitting on the cue ball where you want and on the object ball where you want.
Ooo new video
The part where you do 3 feathers every shot, no one plays snooker like that, not even John Higgins feathers are that robotic. I guess you have to make a video on something
Boring !!