Lanolin: The New Sally? - Sonic Speed Reading

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
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    Lanolin is FINALLY given a place among the IDW Sonic cast...and it looks remarkably similar to a role filled by one of the most iconic long-lost Sonic characters out there. Have they been building up this sheep just so she could be a Sally Acorn replacement? Is it an homage? Or is there more to the character? Let's dive into it while checking out issues 57 and 58!
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Komentáře • 821

  • @nightwolf789
    @nightwolf789 Před rokem +811

    “How weird it is to pair a sheep and wolf together”
    The second character introduced to work alongside sonic is a FOX!
    It’s what this series does!

    • @Ginfeldi
      @Ginfeldi Před rokem +112

      Not as weird as a chameleon a crocodile and a bee... or a detective a ninja and a kid

    • @nightwolf789
      @nightwolf789 Před rokem +47

      @@Ginfeldi Fair point. But can we mention the taiream ship? A fox and a rabbit. In fact most of the cast would be considered prey so there arent many pairing that make sense

    • @gustavomartins364
      @gustavomartins364 Před rokem +8

      ​@@nightwolf789 eat im portuguese is comer, comer cam also mean make sex so is tails and sonic a couple?

    • @firepuppies4086
      @firepuppies4086 Před rokem +13

      Let's be glad Tails is a good dude.

    • @nightwolf789
      @nightwolf789 Před rokem +2

      @@gustavomartins364 oh. I did not need that!

  • @slateoffate9812
    @slateoffate9812 Před rokem +397

    I think Lanolin is Sally's successor in the same way Starline is to Finitivus, Surge to Scourge, and Whisper to Tempo, similar in some ways but very different in others.
    Edit: Putting this out there, I don't mean this as an insult. I really like these characters and IDW Sonic is great! It's not the writers' fault they can't do much worldbuilding. If you're going to spam an argument, please do it somewhere else.

    • @whichcache2517
      @whichcache2517 Před rokem +3

      Wait, who's Tempo? I can't find any results for that.

    • @slateoffate9812
      @slateoffate9812 Před rokem +14

      @@whichcache2517 Quake Woman from the Archie Mega Man comics, which Ian also worked on.

    • @bowserbreaker2515
      @bowserbreaker2515 Před rokem +5

      You mean how all these IDW characters are cheap rip-offs of better characters?

    • @whichcache2517
      @whichcache2517 Před rokem +7

      @@slateoffate9812 Ah, I thought we were still talking about Sonic characters. Does this mean Whisper’s gonna get ship-teased with a loner with a history of self-discovery later on?
      TempoXShadow, make it happen! (JK)

    • @slateoffate9812
      @slateoffate9812 Před rokem +46

      @@bowserbreaker2515 Don't put words in my mouth. These are similar characters, but their own characters none the less, not knockoffs.

  • @charismaentertainer1657
    @charismaentertainer1657 Před rokem +936

    Can’t believe Nick would clickbait, truly this is the darkest of days

  • @shroomer8294
    @shroomer8294 Před rokem +292

    I’ll watch this later but her design looks pretty cool from a first impression. I like her bell and the fact that they made a cute and fluffy animal look cool and kinda militaristic.

    • @gustavomartins364
      @gustavomartins364 Před rokem +10

      Teens on the army aka war crimes for childrea.

    • @gustavomartins364
      @gustavomartins364 Před rokem +1

      @@Switchspark sonic never had put eggman on the jail beacause He is also a criminal.

  • @SaltedMallows
    @SaltedMallows Před rokem +477

    You know. Calling a sheep girl "Lanolin"
    is basically akin to calling someone "Sweat"

    • @yourfathersinferioritycomplex
      @yourfathersinferioritycomplex Před rokem +43

      Now i know what I'll name my kid if i have any

    • @Eldoofus
      @Eldoofus Před rokem +28

      As long as you don't pair her with Cream the Rabbit....

    • @Fidion
      @Fidion Před rokem +5

      gross

    • @geoffreyrichards6079
      @geoffreyrichards6079 Před rokem +31

      According to Ian Flynn, the orangutan mechanic introduced in one of Belle’s stories was named ‘Grease’.

    • @SaltedMallows
      @SaltedMallows Před rokem +16

      @@geoffreyrichards6079
      Is she related to him in any way plotwise? Grease and Sweat combo lol.
      Idk, grease is alright for a mechanic.

  • @misterzygarde6431
    @misterzygarde6431 Před rokem +439

    Given the mention of Sally, I want to mention how Post-SGW making the Kingdom of Acorn the setting of Sonic 1 and 2 was pretty cool.

    • @guffy2486
      @guffy2486 Před rokem +2

      Post-sgw?

    • @BrakSplash
      @BrakSplash Před rokem +44

      Post-SuperGenesisWave
      A cosmic reboot of the series

    • @ligtningdog6399
      @ligtningdog6399 Před rokem +20

      @@guffy2486 TL;DR around #252, after the Megaman crossover, Archie Sonic was rebooted.

    • @johnnygyro2295
      @johnnygyro2295 Před rokem +4

      A lot of Post-SGW Archie was cool.

  • @BlackFlash09
    @BlackFlash09 Před rokem +280

    Tangle is a Sally clone because of similar hairstyles. Amy is a Sally clone because she has leadership skills. Lanolin is a Sally clone because she has tactical skills. Blaze is a Sally clone because she's a princess.
    Anytime a female Sonic character is put into a good light, they're automatically measured up to Sally.
    Without biting my head off, I want to ask a question. Does anyone understand the frustration some fans have with measuring a character's worth by comparing them to Sally Acorn?

    • @KraziShadowbear
      @KraziShadowbear Před rokem +56

      I definitely understand the frustration of measuring them up to Sally, but that's mostly because SEGA had to take out Sally in the first place.
      A lot of us fans want her back. She was great in the SATAM show AND the Archie comics (both pre-reboot and post-reboot).
      And the writers also love her as well, but SEGA doesn't really care and forces the writers to "make up for it" with other characters such as Amy being the resistance leader/organizer during Forces (Knuckles was the commander), but it felt strangely out of place for her to be like that.
      It just makes us miss Sally all the more... :(
      (Hopefully this answered your question. This is just my personal perspective on the matter, so I may be completely wrong.)

    • @somedudewhodraws9377
      @somedudewhodraws9377 Před rokem +33

      Yeh Nick is obsessed with Archie Sonic and he needs to stop comparing the 2 as IDW Sonic is basically a restart of Archie altogether or rather a Reboot. The way he always jumps to Sally compared with Lanolin and Amy is freaking disturbing the way he talks about it.

    • @rainpooper7088
      @rainpooper7088 Před rokem +25

      Yeah, it's never "Elise is a Sally clone because she's a princess who is written as weak and helpless for a not insignificant amount of time so Sonic can look good" or "Knuckles is a Sally clone because he smacks Sonic clean across the face".

    • @theredguardowen8083
      @theredguardowen8083 Před rokem +40

      My personal take is that Sally showed what a good female character could be, then vanished. The reason so many people compare to her is because she left a positive impact.

    • @theinktician
      @theinktician Před rokem +32

      idk. Whisper has been incredibly well received and I've never seen a comparison there (also this comment is the 1st time im hearing about Tangle comparisons too).

  • @TrashEater2729
    @TrashEater2729 Před rokem +217

    A veteran, a mercenary, and an enthusiastic Rookie. What's not to love?

  • @pumpkintron8969
    @pumpkintron8969 Před rokem +363

    Archie fans when new female character release:

    • @mateushenriquepinheiro3197
      @mateushenriquepinheiro3197 Před rokem +56

      I swear they do this every single time, constant comparisons with Archie comic characters are just annoying to me right now. The moment I saw someone compare Saint Geoffrey to Rough just because they are skunks! Most of these comparisons are surface level at best, but since the Archie comics came first and we're around longer, I guess they feel obligated to make these comparisons
      I don't want to offend any Archie fan, but the way they talk about bring these characters back just doesn't sit with me. I like the freedom fighters but that doesn't mean I want them back, it feels wrong for me to say that because so many people like them but I am of the opinion that Sonic doesn't need then to work in the modern age and that their time has passed. Hopefully everyone can understand what I'm saying, I don't want to be crucified in the comments for just saying my opinion

    • @CalebSmith-lr9is
      @CalebSmith-lr9is Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@mateushenriquepinheiro3197 ok

    • @ekkolight
      @ekkolight Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@mateushenriquepinheiro3197its fine to disagree and move on

    • @Whatcha_
      @Whatcha_ Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@mateushenriquepinheiro3197are you talking about rouge? Cuz I don’t think she’s a skunk

    • @mateushenriquepinheiro3197
      @mateushenriquepinheiro3197 Před 8 měsíci +10

      @@Whatcha_ Rough is a IDW character, he and his brother are skunks with their gimmick being that their are always making rhymes revolving around their names
      Example:
      "You think you're tough..."
      "We're gonna make you humble..."
      "Get ready for Rough & Tumble!"

  • @m.a.ddragon939
    @m.a.ddragon939 Před rokem +109

    When Silver is baffled like “you did MOST of that. How…” I was laughing out loud, that was such an awesome moment. Really makes me wish this was an animated series that moment would be so awesome animated and voice acted

  • @cleanupguy3934
    @cleanupguy3934 Před rokem +174

    I know the facial expressions have been amazing throughout the entirety of IDW’s run, but god these two issues specifically have me dying from how good & hilarious these faces have been.

    • @Rabbitearsblog
      @Rabbitearsblog Před rokem +11

      IDW Sonic has some of the best character expressions ever! I need to do a video on that soon!

    • @SaltedMallows
      @SaltedMallows Před rokem +5

      There's a panel with Blaze just looking hilarious in a reaction shot

    • @Cilenthemaster
      @Cilenthemaster Před rokem

      I personally don’t like it

  • @BazztheBazz
    @BazztheBazz Před rokem +87

    While Lanolin is definitely her own character, it's pretty clear she's meant to fill the role Sally played as the level-headed field commander, just without all the baggage from Archie and the shipping drama. Like how Surge both is and isn't "the new Scourge," Lanolin is and isn't "the new Sally." Same function, done in a different way. I'll always hold out hope for a return of the Freedom Fighters (even though there's zero chance of it), but this is close enough for jazz.

    • @somedudewhodraws9377
      @somedudewhodraws9377 Před rokem +7

      But he said that fro IDW Amy too soooooooo..........Whats happening here is Amy and Lanolin just clones of Sally cuz Ian refuses to be original? Or is Nick as usual over analyzing characters as he always does?

    • @BazztheBazz
      @BazztheBazz Před rokem +18

      @@somedudewhodraws9377 I don't think so. IDW Amy was kind of written into that spot because there was a role that needed filling and there wasn't really a character for it, and even in the story they made it clear Amy wasn't the right fit for the part. Lanolin's personality is much closer to Sally's, both being more level-headed and strategic-minded commander types to play off of Sonic and Tangle's more impulsive personalities.
      That said, while Lanolin definitely fits the same archetype as Sally at first glance, the details are still different enough that she can stand as her own character, and hopefully she'll become more distinct with further stories, just like how Surge grew more different from Scourge the more we saw of her.

    • @justice8718
      @justice8718 Před rokem

      @@BazztheBazz Surge became more pathetic than OG Scourge, anti-Sonic.

    • @kenanmeral8891
      @kenanmeral8891 Před rokem +4

      ​@@justice8718she was kind of a meathead even compared to scourge's brutish nature true but at least she has a known reason to be like this, we barely know anything about scourge's backstory other than the fact that he overthrew his worlds king acorn and had daddy issues but he had nothing that made us see why he is this way other than "reverse universe, reverse morals, reverse sonic" And even then, for being sonics evil twin you'd think he would be more of a problem and less of a bully I think he should have been a real main villain or even one of THE main villains, someone you could only beat after a big ferocious fight

    • @justice8718
      @justice8718 Před rokem +2

      @@kenanmeral8891 Scourge honestly makes more sense as a person that Surge. Surge is a looney toons villain stuck being a mockery of the real thing, which is ironic since that idea canonically breaks Scourge's mind.

  • @tbpbTB2010
    @tbpbTB2010 Před rokem +72

    Idk why but that panel of Tangle rolling down the hill with her tail really makes me want to see a game with these newer characters. Idk her moments just fit so well in a game design aesthetic sense haha

    • @no1_preshboss
      @no1_preshboss Před rokem +9

      I KNOW RIGHT?!! I thought the exact same thing when I saw it! It's like her own version of a spindash

    • @Rabbitearsblog
      @Rabbitearsblog Před rokem +2

      I would love to see these new characters pop up in the games sometime!

    • @axell15thewispmaster79
      @axell15thewispmaster79 Před rokem +2

      Tangle has learned a new move!
      *Tangle Roll!*

    • @liviwaslost
      @liviwaslost Před rokem +2

      Imagine swinging and jumping around. That would be fun

  • @matttale7918
    @matttale7918 Před rokem +21

    As someone who does have their gripes with the Sally comparisons fans make, I do understand that it comes from
    a place of longing for characters that older fans have had a lot of time to attach themselves to, and not necessarily from a place of snobbish nitpicking that other fan bases would be more inclined towards.
    My main issue is that, outside of Lanolin, most of these comparisons are of very superficial traits, I mean, people saying Jewel is a Sally clone? How is she? They are decidedly different personality wise, and Jewel isn’t even leading a rebel group, more like a damage control clean up crew tasked with rebuilding places eggman nukes to the ground.
    This leaves really only one comparison to be made between Sally and Jewel, which is that they are both leaders of an organization and are both female characters. Really shallow surface level comparison that disservice’s Sally as a character, and only serves to undermine Jewel’s credibility as a distinct character.
    Which is why the constant comparisons fans make with Sally and “female character of the week” leaves a sometimes sour taste in my mouth. It’s like some fans can’t let characters share a similar role or archetype, even if they’re as different as can be, fans will reach and they will reach HARD to find a connection and complain the character isn’t original enough and a carbon copy clone of another character that’s been around longer and thus more popular.
    Apologies for the rant but it’s been bugging me for awhile and it has absolutely nothing to do with Lanolin. Mainly just people comparing Tangle, Amy, Rouge, and Jewel that irks me to no end.

    • @mateushenriquepinheiro3197
      @mateushenriquepinheiro3197 Před rokem +2

      I agree with you, constantly comparing Sally to any female character in IDW feels annoying if not down right obsessive, I get that Sally is loved by older fans but can you imagine what it's like to be a new one and not like her? I got into sonic because of Unleash and sonic heroes, I always heard of Sally but the Satam cartoon never aired in my country while I was growing up nor did the local comic book in my town sell the Archie comics, everything I knew about Sally and the freedom fighters was told to me by CZcams I occasionally came across (heck I thought scourge was a fan made character because the idea of a evil sonic that was green and used sunglasses with a leather jacket just sounded... fan made at the time)
      I like IDW Sonic, a lot of people do but this constant comparison with Archie just isn't nice, the IDW comics are canon now and that's the reality older fans of the comic have to accept. I saw some toxic behavior from Archie fans (one in particular just felt biased and hateful of the official canon) but while I can't fully blame them for acting this way, I also can't defend them for this unhealthy gatekeeping

    • @matttale7918
      @matttale7918 Před rokem +2

      @@mateushenriquepinheiro3197 same, I only read the post genesis wave Archie comics, I wasn’t really attached to Sally as much as the other characters (hell even Scourge rubbed off on me, all things considered)
      But oftentimes the sonic fandom tends to be very particular about what they want and yet also not know what they want either. To the point where it feels like fans don’t actually want new Sonic games, shows, etc.
      I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and assume they just want to have more of the characters they really like, which is something I can understand and sympathize with. But it’s also kind of annoying how much it happens 😅

  • @RadarTheManedWolf
    @RadarTheManedWolf Před rokem +151

    This notification gave me a jumpscare, I’ve never clicked so fast. YOOOO!! My girl’s got a Speed Reading video by Game Apologist! We win!! 🎉🔔🐑
    Edit: 6:48 Lanolin’s small data device is actually a SEGA Dreamcast Visual Memory Unit (VMU)! :]

    • @GameApologist
      @GameApologist  Před rokem +39

      I kinda wondered with the buttons but it seemed too flat to me!

    • @RadarTheManedWolf
      @RadarTheManedWolf Před rokem +15

      @@GameApologist Gotta appreciate what kind of little references the artists throw into the world of Sonic that they happen to know, especially ones from ABT.
      I mean, same artist who drew Issues 32 and 55 with Eggman packing heat and his weapon is similar to a Gravitational Beam Emitter (GBE) from the manga, “Blame!”

    • @slimeprivilege
      @slimeprivilege Před rokem +2

      looks nothing like it

    • @tomtenpim7161
      @tomtenpim7161 Před rokem +5

      @@slimeprivilege Yes it does. Eggman even strikes the same pose after firing it as is done in the anime.
      (made a mistake if you were talking about the SEGA Dreamcast Visual Memory Unit)

    • @HellhumperE7ZJ
      @HellhumperE7ZJ Před rokem +2

      ​@Game Apologist didn't even acknowledge the compliment of this comment, only the information useful to him. That's cold

  • @smugsneasel
    @smugsneasel Před rokem +46

    You know, I never considered her to be a Sally archetype...but the people who do must have some...words. Especially after all they've said about IDW Amy.

    • @Rabbitearsblog
      @Rabbitearsblog Před rokem +2

      I don't see a lot of complaints about Amy's character in IDW anymore.

    • @Bakuganluver23
      @Bakuganluver23 Před rokem +9

      @@Rabbitearsblog yeah, this version of Amy is much more.... mature and grounded than she was way back in the old days.

    • @yourfathersinferioritycomplex
      @yourfathersinferioritycomplex Před rokem +4

      Sally fans defending the most mediocre character in the franchise

    • @mateushenriquepinheiro3197
      @mateushenriquepinheiro3197 Před rokem +8

      Sally fans are weird to me, but I don't have any nostalgia for Satam or Archie to begin with. I only started reading the Archie comics last year and I don't see what the big deal is, there is good characterization at times but the comic never stays consistent enough or even grounded for it to work, I got confused so many times while reading it and the art style changes didn't help at all. It's like the comic itself couldn't decide what it wanted to be half of the time

    • @tiiramisu2464
      @tiiramisu2464 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@mateushenriquepinheiro3197True. For me, the strongest part of the continuity and art is deffo post SGW

  • @pieraldodiaz2868
    @pieraldodiaz2868 Před rokem +17

    R34: alright, lets get to work, folks

  • @AngelPerez-tu1nk
    @AngelPerez-tu1nk Před rokem +266

    Lanolin has been winning me over.
    I still want Sally back though.

    • @sth5697
      @sth5697 Před rokem +7

      Same. They need to back Sally Sonic’s gf because in Archie they had the most romantic moments

    • @Tobunari
      @Tobunari Před rokem +28

      I don't. We don't need Sally.

    • @dantemustdie00
      @dantemustdie00 Před rokem +19

      ​@@sth5697 even if she came back, romance is a big no no, at the very least not with Sonic

    • @sth5697
      @sth5697 Před rokem +3

      @@dantemustdie00 *meanwhile Morio Kishimoto saying that sonic might have a gf in the future* you were saying

    • @dantemustdie00
      @dantemustdie00 Před rokem +16

      @@sth5697 you know damn well it ain't gonna be Sally, Amy is way more likely at this point

  • @smallasian5599
    @smallasian5599 Před rokem +20

    Beep that sheep damn it.

  • @VantasticJackson
    @VantasticJackson Před rokem +91

    THANK YOU. I SEE HER AROUND SO MUCH BUT NOBODY MENTIONS HER NAME! I'VE SEEN HER FOR MONTHS AND NEVER ONCE SEEN HER NAME UNTIL NOW

    • @Megaman12Protoman14
      @Megaman12Protoman14 Před rokem +8

      You gotta read the comics my man

    • @Lampironstudios215
      @Lampironstudios215 Před rokem +13

      @@YaBoiPhil dont do it. just dont do it

    • @jasonjimerson7046
      @jasonjimerson7046 Před rokem +2

      ​@@Lampironstudios215 😬

    • @dantemustdie00
      @dantemustdie00 Před rokem +2

      ​@@ASOtheprO people had enough of Belle for awhile since she already was in like 3 or 4 major arcs as it was. Girl needs a break

    • @Okamikurainya
      @Okamikurainya Před rokem +3

      And her name comes from the fatty oil on a sheep's wool.

  • @ataucei
    @ataucei Před rokem +14

    The first time she showed up I thought "That is a design too interesting for just a background character, I hope she becomes important some time"

  • @notheresir
    @notheresir Před rokem +8

    MOM MOM GET THE CAMERA NEW SONIC SPEED READING!

  • @manwhodoesthings
    @manwhodoesthings Před rokem +6

    That explains all the suggestive fanart.

  • @daelen.cclark
    @daelen.cclark Před rokem +76

    I honestly just hope that SEGA doesn’t try to get rid of these characters, too.
    (I don’t know what’s gonna happen with the Freedom Fighters, but I know we’ve still got strong characters no matter what.)

    • @conradojavier7547
      @conradojavier7547 Před rokem +11

      It's SEGA themselves never Embrace SATAM as a Whole.

    • @mroversteer3739
      @mroversteer3739 Před rokem +11

      Ken Penders

    • @ManiacX1999
      @ManiacX1999 Před rokem +11

      @@mroversteer3739 He owns a bunch of literal recolors and not the main cast (the FF)

    • @ligtningdog6399
      @ligtningdog6399 Před rokem +15

      @@mroversteer3739 He's old news and has nothing to do with SatAM characters.

    • @Mepphy99
      @Mepphy99 Před rokem +18

      IDW characters Always find space in spin off and Tangle was mentioned in Frontiers
      so yeah, probably they are not going away

  • @brandonprater4613
    @brandonprater4613 Před rokem +8

    I'm a diehard Sally fan & personally think Lanolin is a good character with lots of potential. I also like the irony of a sheep being a leader. I just hope it's not foreshadowing for a"sacrificial lamb" moment.

  • @KingOfMomentum
    @KingOfMomentum Před rokem +74

    I miss Sally and will always keep her around in my headcanon, but I don't think we need new characters written to emulate her.

  • @jeffwolcott7815
    @jeffwolcott7815 Před rokem +27

    Well, it's at least comforting to know Sally and the Freedom Fighters are still remembered by creators as well as fans and they are inspirations for new characters in the comics.

  • @cosmictheorist6091
    @cosmictheorist6091 Před rokem +5

    Funny thing is I didn't see Sally headline right away I just saw Sonic speed reading and clicked.

  • @real_abender
    @real_abender Před rokem +6

    Lanolin was also the name of a female sheep in the Jim Davis comic strip "US Acres," and that's the only thing I think about when I see anything related to this new character.

    • @Soufriere84
      @Soufriere84 Před rokem +1

      Glad I'm not the only one. I can only assume that since it's been forever since U.S. Acres got any sort of anything, Jim Davis's trademarks have expired. Sega isn't stupid enough to step on Paws Inc.
      I'm honestly surprised Ian & Evan got away with it -- MOST Americans of a certain age remember Garfield's Lanolin!

    • @gustavomartins364
      @gustavomartins364 Před rokem

      Acre?

  • @shonenbois
    @shonenbois Před rokem +22

    It was pretty nice seeing Sonic reflect/feel good working with his crew. Honestly seeing the gang together is always great

    • @Rabbitearsblog
      @Rabbitearsblog Před rokem +2

      Yeah, I always loved it when Sonic is fighting bad guys with his friends!

  • @jonieljoestarzawarudo8172

    19:50 personally, I'm fine with Rings simply staying as non-diegetic elements (a.k.a. stuff that is only acknowledge by the audience and doesn't actually exist in-universe).

    • @DoggoDoesStuff1
      @DoggoDoesStuff1 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, right? Any attempt to put them in universe has always felt weird to me, outside of maybe the movie cannon, but that's adapting an entirely different kind of ring

  • @aslightlystablefootsoldier9838
    @aslightlystablefootsoldier9838 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Funny enough I’m sure 90% of Sonic fans (Who don’t read comics) don’t even know any of these characters exist

  • @Ginfeldi
    @Ginfeldi Před rokem +5

    It would be a waste to let a well designed character like Lanolin be just a nameless bystander

  • @wakeangel2001
    @wakeangel2001 Před rokem +14

    I gotta say, this Lanolin is WAY more likable than the U.S. Acres Lanolin...but yeah this is yet another character that I'm gonna end up making into a figure isn't it? I can even see how I'd mod an Avatar head for her...One more thing...is it just me or does it look like Adam Bryce Thomas draws the characters notably bustier than average?

    • @MadWinter889
      @MadWinter889 Před rokem +1

      Lanolin definitely is drawn this way, lol. The other females' proportions look normal to me.

    • @gustavomartins364
      @gustavomartins364 Před rokem

      Acres?

  • @fisherdotogg
    @fisherdotogg Před rokem +3

    Oh I like how earlier Lanolin seen at 26:45 is wearing Amy's classic outfit

  • @eNCy.
    @eNCy. Před rokem +18

    I thought the explosion came from Surge, so seeing team Dark was something I wasn't expecting. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

  • @WhiteCresentKnight
    @WhiteCresentKnight Před rokem +12

    Female character: *shows leadership qualities*
    Nick: SHES JUST RESKINNED SALLY

    • @mateushenriquepinheiro3197
      @mateushenriquepinheiro3197 Před rokem

      He is a die hard simpmunk
      All jokes aside, I wish people would stop doing these comparisons or at least explained them better. Nick is the only one that at least gives a good or reasonable explanation as to why it reminds him (although it could be him overanalyzing something that might have no relation) I swear Archie fans barely explain why they dislike something while they over explain why they like another thing

  • @someguyontheinternet1445

    6:48 that device is likely a reference to the dreamcast memory card, which also as a fun use for the Chao Garden in sonic adventure

    • @brendowego
      @brendowego Před rokem +2

      Surprised I had to scroll this far too see someone already knew what the device was.

  • @RaiginAnimator
    @RaiginAnimator Před rokem +8

    Nick as a fellow nerd I’ve been waiting for you to cover this

  • @GideonWells
    @GideonWells Před rokem +5

    Rings don't show up in IDW because they are apparently non-canon in the current continuity, reading between the lines.
    Ian first said he didn't see them as anything but game mechanics in several episodes of his podcast. When Prime (which is as canon as IDW) came out he kind of danced around it for a while. Eventually pointing out how the Rings were only in the first episode, flashbacks to those events, and then completely vanished. Seemingly implying that Prime's use of the rings was a continuity error that was fixed but the first episode (and flashbacks to it's time frame) was the exception to it being fixed.
    So, it looks like for now rings only exist in the games until Sega changes their minds.

  • @shadic971
    @shadic971 Před rokem +9

    Nick this is just a big blanket YES to any time you ask "would you guys be interested in me covering this?"
    I love these comics and your way of providing not only your own but also the fandom's perspectives always makes these videos that much more interesting to watch

  • @BlackFlash09
    @BlackFlash09 Před rokem +22

    It might be just a coincidence. But in this arc, the Diamond Cutters became "ghosts" like Sonic's friends did in Sonic Frontiers.

    • @Rabbitearsblog
      @Rabbitearsblog Před rokem +2

      I wonder if that's connected to Sonic Frontiers in some kind of way.

  • @Blaze4ification
    @Blaze4ification Před rokem +5

    18:15 oh my god I love this, especially Silver's reaction. I think those were the super big annoying mini boss like ones from Heroes? Looks like it, anyways Silver great whenever he shows up in this... you did most of the work... just... how? Love that yeah they are noticing how powerful Amy is, like Mighty sure they're both speed characters... but you don't want to be on the receiving end of one of their attacks... dang... now I want Mighty and Ray to get in on these comics.

  • @BDeerhead
    @BDeerhead Před rokem +20

    3:53
    I just noticed Lanolin's left hand is missing in this shot!
    14:35
    I love how Tangle is drawn here. Her exaggerated cartoonishness gives me Teen Titan vibes.

  • @mysticmind4563
    @mysticmind4563 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Maggie being paired with Lanolin is definitely a nice touch. This wisp obviously is influenced by sound, maybe the wispon cowbell can create different frequencies to make different effects.

  • @avitraangelica9278
    @avitraangelica9278 Před rokem +10

    Lanolin is involved in stuff? More Tangle and Whisper? Silver and Blaze are back?
    I *REALLY* need to pick up these issues, holy hecc! This is the goodgood!

  • @MrDariox555
    @MrDariox555 Před rokem +2

    The art on this books is SO GOOD
    Also, welcome back Nick!

  • @deppo436
    @deppo436 Před rokem +12

    I'm loving Lanolin and hopefully we'll be seeing more of her for a long time!

  • @ironpiyepic2666
    @ironpiyepic2666 Před rokem +14

    Yknow what, I'm gonna say it. I'm not mad at the comparison, I'm mad that we can't see Sally again and I don't like that Sega thinks they can just replace them

  • @alicemoon8126
    @alicemoon8126 Před rokem +4

    Silver precising that he CANT freely time travel is actually very intriguing

    • @mateushenriquepinheiro3197
      @mateushenriquepinheiro3197 Před rokem

      Makes you wonder how it works and what limitations it has, they will probably never tell us but is fun to think about

  • @moose_goosey
    @moose_goosey Před rokem +5

    The analysis is my favorite part of speed reading, cause I’ve never watched an IDW one before reading them. Analyzing is the new stuff for me.

  • @Keeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    @Keeeeeeeeeeeeeee Před rokem +2

    I’m pretty sure that thing Lanolin sent up with Whisper’s hover wispon is one of those mini screens for the SEGA Dream ast

  • @Firestorm2900
    @Firestorm2900 Před rokem +4

    Oh that mystery object looks a heck of a lot like the Dreamcast MMUs. They're like Memory Cards, but you can also play small games or manage the memory with the buttons.

  • @AlexMartinez-gv7hy
    @AlexMartinez-gv7hy Před rokem +6

    I just like watching your Sonic speed reading. You've shown me why people like Sonic and his friends and even though I'm not a full fan of Sonic I can respect the character and his world much more now. Thank you for that Nick and no matter what I'll always watch your vids.

  • @takeruneverborn4740
    @takeruneverborn4740 Před rokem +4

    Well it make sense given the fact that Ian find inspiration in all sonic media espically due to his late run on Archie after the penders fiasco with Sega headquarters

  • @raymontyoungblood4453
    @raymontyoungblood4453 Před rokem +3

    I personally didn't think of Lanolin as a Sally clone, but I do see your point!! Great video as always

  • @SkydreamPony
    @SkydreamPony Před rokem +23

    Lanolin is a heckin good sheepy (and also cosplay goals) :3 🐑💓

    • @Soufriere84
      @Soufriere84 Před rokem

      Are you talking about yourself? If so, will the rest of us get to see photos? (semi-lol)

    • @SkydreamPony
      @SkydreamPony Před rokem

      @@Soufriere84 Myself, yes. Photos, no :p

  • @yeahboy6807
    @yeahboy6807 Před rokem +2

    The whole “growing city” thing reminds me of Mechagodzilla city from the Godzilla anime trilogy.

  • @RealLarsUlrichISwear
    @RealLarsUlrichISwear Před rokem +1

    On my day off from school. I wake up to see 2 videos from the goat.

  • @funtimefoxy2269
    @funtimefoxy2269 Před rokem +3

    I love the idea of Lanolin she is such and good character and does represent some characteristics from sally like how she wants to protect people and the ones she cares about it will take some time to get use to her since sally has been a favorite of mine but honestly I'm already loving Lanolin

  • @PrimeChase
    @PrimeChase Před 2 měsíci

    19:50 On the topic of rings, in the Minecraft Sonic Texture Pack, Gold ore is retextured to be rings. Raw gold = ring fragments and gold ingot = rings. So yes, I do think rings are a natural sonic resource.

  • @samuelrodriguez9801
    @samuelrodriguez9801 Před rokem +2

    I'm kinda pissed that Penders caused a character purge which then drew the attention of Sega of Japan who caused the removal of the Freedom Fighters from the comics as well. Then the setting was far more nerfed compared to the Archie comics. And Sonic became a celibate man child with his character progression thrown out the window.

  • @basedguyalex
    @basedguyalex Před rokem +4

    I'll admit, design wise I do like Lanolin. Glad the comics are working her into the fold.
    Thought the Magenta wisp gives a small EMP towards the badniks. Neat idea for a would be game mechanic.
    As far the Sally frustration i get it but also understand she may never be brought back. Not down about it of course.

  • @AnthonyDaFox
    @AnthonyDaFox Před rokem +14

    No one will ever REPLACE Sally, but I don't mind more Characters acting like her.

    • @conradojavier7547
      @conradojavier7547 Před rokem +2

      I wish Sonic Team Appect their fate, & put Princess Sally as a Regular in the games.

    • @antyep
      @antyep Před rokem +3

      @@conradojavier7547I remember Flynn saying that if he ever were to bring back the FFs, they be restricted to Classics, like Mighty and Ray.

    • @somekami3375
      @somekami3375 Před rokem

      @@conradojavier7547 that’s a can of worms they’ll have to get their hands into. That’s the only reason why they have trouble taking comic characters into the games.

    • @loiiysailor1177
      @loiiysailor1177 Před rokem

      ​@@conradojavier7547 if they that bam Ken Penders lawsuit

  • @supersonicmario56
    @supersonicmario56 Před rokem +2

    I hear Lanolin...
    And can only think of Garfield and Friends...

  • @jeremy1860
    @jeremy1860 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I have to wonder just how many types of animals the folks at Sega have wanted to turn into Sonic characters, but just haven't for one reason or another 🤔

  • @bowserbreaker2515
    @bowserbreaker2515 Před rokem +2

    To me, Sally can never be replaced. The Freedom Fighters predate every single Sonic character with the exception of Sonic, Eggman, and Tails. They deserve some respect and shouldn't be replaced with wanna-bees. SEGA still owns the Freedom Fighters, they should at least be remembered, and not forgotten just because of "Ken Penders This", "Ken Penders That".

    • @mateushenriquepinheiro3197
      @mateushenriquepinheiro3197 Před rokem

      I think the problem might be a conflict of interest, while a lot western fans that grew up with the comics and the Satam cartoon want these characters back, most sonic fans around the world didn't. Fans in the UK grew up with Fleetway comics instead of Archie, Japanese fans had the sonic manga instead of Archie not to mention they didn't grew up with Satam since that made for american fans first and not to mention that some parts of the world didn't beginning to gather a sonic fan base until after the Satam cartoon ended. I wish most sonic fans would remember that Sega of America (the one who approved the freedom fighters and the Archie publication in the first place) Is a subsidiary of Sega of Japan and in the end of the day is the Sega of Japan that has a final saying in this
      I hope people will understand that I'm not trying to throw hate at them for saying this, but I'm tired of hearing people demand Sega to do this as if the company can't survive without the freedom fighters. You might say that blaming Ken Penders for all of this is an exaggeration, but he put Sega on court because of sonic characters he made and I must assume he not only gave them a bad impression but also made them question if it was worth it or not to keep their partnership with Archie in the first place.
      Sega became more restrictive after the whole trial since they didn't want to deal with this sort of deal again (which happened but not to the same extent, ever wondered what happened with mammoth mongol? His creator followed in ken's path and copyrighted the character with Archie not even trying to bring this into court so they let him win) and after the Archie sonic comics began drooping down in sales in a significant enough way, I guess Sega decided that they wanted to start over with a new and likely more reliable publisher that they could have more control of as to make the comics more cohesive to the sonic lore of the modern day, thankfully a good number of writers and artists from Archie were brought into the new project over at IDW with Ian Flynn being the head writer for the beginning of the comic even going so far as to work in the official script of Sonic Frontiers (or to be more exact, the American translation of the script which is no small feat, but I don't know if his script was made first or before the japanese script)

    • @bowserbreaker2515
      @bowserbreaker2515 Před rokem

      @@mateushenriquepinheiro3197 I agree. The Freedom Fighters existed way before most game characters, and Sonic has always been most popular in the U.S. I actually don't want the Freedom Fighters back in a big way, because their characters would be ruined (They already weren't great in Archie's reboot). But my biggest issue is that Japan acts like IDW is some sort of masterpiece, and are trying to put it into the games, but most people don't read comics, I personally dislike IDW, Archie is the longest running licensed comic book of all time, but was only acknowledged when it was cancelled, and it just feels kind of disrespectful. I don't want the IDW characters in the games, but the same goes for Archie. Just leave each medium alone.

    • @mateushenriquepinheiro3197
      @mateushenriquepinheiro3197 Před rokem

      @@bowserbreaker2515 I understand wanting the comics and games to be separate but recent events show that the IDW comics are going to be Canon wether you like it or not. I'm happy that they are canon since I like them and would want to see them being canon, but it's fine if you don't like it personally, I just hope you won't become toxic towards people that are happy for it being canon ( being a sonic fan sometimes is bother because all the discourse in the community, interacting with some people without it getting toxic is hard)
      But I can honestly see why they would make it canon, the IDW comics are much easier to follow than Archie and are inline to what the games are, hate it or not, the comics were made with the intention of fitting in the sonic lore and universe nowadays. The characters themselves are charming and could be easily adapted into the games with far less problems than the freedom fighters, but that's a question of taste I guess

    • @bowserbreaker2515
      @bowserbreaker2515 Před rokem

      @@mateushenriquepinheiro3197 You can like IDW, but I despise its characters. Not just for Sega treating them like they are all perfect, but for the fact that they just stink as characters. They range from boring to annoying. I've seen many people say they love IDW, but they never give any reasons other than "It's really good". When I see people talk about how great Archie is, they go really in depth about it. To me, it feels more like people like it simply for it not being as complicated. But to me, IDW is to nothing. There are lots of people that when they finally gave Archie the time of day, really enjoyed it. I just want them to re-release the comic, even if it's gone.

  • @Preteristboy
    @Preteristboy Před rokem +6

    I love how nebulous the Rhythm Wispon's powers are because no one actually knows how Magenta Rhythm works. 😅

  • @MeltingMan234
    @MeltingMan234 Před rokem +3

    The reason why we haven't seen Rings in IDW Sonic is because SEGA has forbade them from using the Rings in a narrative sense.

    • @qmchale5130
      @qmchale5130 Před rokem

      Judging by one of the mandates, I'm not even sure there's a form of currency, which is weird since the Chaotix are always taking detective jobs for "money".

  • @hypemugen
    @hypemugen Před 21 dnem

    Why is whisper so fucking precious... Ugh... I wanna hug her and never let go...

  • @Eldoofus
    @Eldoofus Před rokem +10

    Honestly it's just very cool how the writers didn't just make a carbon copy of Sally Acorn or even a leader that's competent and effective from the get-go, but rather they give us many characters attempting to become leaders and then have them all going "Wait, this is _hard."_ ... it doesn't feel like they're just trying to fill the gap Sally left, but also paying her respects in showing that... well, it's not easy to be a good leader, and it just goes to show how talented Sally truly was.

  • @bigs5078
    @bigs5078 Před rokem +9

    A heads up for issue 59/60 if it doesn't get brought up; according to a recent Bumblekast Mini with KaiZenAmen, Evan spoke too quickly about Shadow's characterization being loosened up. The story had to be re-written after being shipped off to SEGA, including limiting his presence in the story.

    • @somedudewhodraws9377
      @somedudewhodraws9377 Před rokem

      So in other words we didnt get Shadows SA2 Personality cuz she ran her mouth? Jeez thanx alot Evan u sound almost like Ken Penders now ya know that same man that tanked Archie Sonics whole Career?

    • @khalewren2734
      @khalewren2734 Před rokem +14

      @@somedudewhodraws9377 bruh calm down, something happened that could've very well not even been her fault and you're comparing her to penders??? chill out

    • @ManiacX1999
      @ManiacX1999 Před rokem

      @@somedudewhodraws9377 That's a stupid fucking reason to have a rewrite done. Who cares if a comic writer says something? It literally doesn't affect a majority of the fans, SEGA has been holding the comic property in a vice since Archie had their way with it

    • @somedudewhodraws9377
      @somedudewhodraws9377 Před rokem +1

      @@khalewren2734 She needs to be careful as shes under contract and oif she slips up again well I hope she enjoys working at a Mcdonalds soon. Sega does not screw around. They have been alot more strict since the Archie Disaster.

    • @rainpooper7088
      @rainpooper7088 Před rokem +12

      @SomeDude WhoDraws93
      You're being really dramatic and also giving Penders way too much credit.

  • @mast3gam3r18
    @mast3gam3r18 Před rokem +3

    Just realized that device that the wisp took high into the air looks similar if not exactly like the Visual Memory Unit(VMU) memory card that is used on the Sega Dreamcast controller!

  • @brunoangelfraiden
    @brunoangelfraiden Před rokem +3

    I miss Sally so much!

  • @soniyashi
    @soniyashi Před rokem +1

    lan may be my fav sonic design in forever

  • @K_logart
    @K_logart Před rokem +9

    I don't get why people skip your commentary part, I personally think the introspection you share is pretty cool and interesting (though I guess some just want a recap on the comics instead of getting them themselves)

  • @TheAxel999
    @TheAxel999 Před rokem +2

    Yay, new Apologist vid!!

  • @momentaryretrospect5967
    @momentaryretrospect5967 Před rokem +2

    I remember lanolin being an earlier character because I got a shirt from a friend that had one of the sonic IDW covers on it and I was like. Who are these people

  • @wanderlustwarrior
    @wanderlustwarrior Před rokem +2

    Regarding pairing a sheep and a wolf together, I've said it before elsewhere, and most recently on Jehtt's June 10, 2023 video, but *every* major Sonic team includes an animal and that animal's natural predator, except for Team Dark. For the Hooligans, it's debatable based on what you consider Nack/Fang and Bean to be: weasels eat ducks, but jerboas don't eat birds, and wolves don't often have overlapping territory with woodpeckers.
    EDIT: I gave the date to help myself refind that video if needed. CZcams's search features suck.

  • @janaguirre4756
    @janaguirre4756 Před rokem +2

    You know an arc is gonna go crazy when silver shows up because he's here to fix his future

  • @user-tq4hw2hb2j
    @user-tq4hw2hb2j Před 10 měsíci +2

    a shame she's getting some hate from some fans right now, some more than others, because of how she acted in issue 64, with her defending 'Duo' and mistrusting Silver and Whisper and making Tangle's decision for her to vote Silver off temporarily; though in her defence, she was being rational. but other than that she DOES have capabilities to be a leader, especially during the urban warfare arc, and may get better over time, especially after Mimic is exposed. I don't HATE you lanolin in GENERAL, just what you did just now in issue 64

  • @charmyzard
    @charmyzard Před 4 měsíci

    Immediately a lot of people's new favorites for a reason.

  • @Mepphy99
    @Mepphy99 Před rokem +4

    never though about it (since the feats don't compare) but Lanolin being put in Sally's role can be pretty good
    Mainly freeing Amy from that (she REALLY didn't fit being the leader for what they showed in the games) but also because a character that could keep up with Sonic AND slow him down (not with romance) is needed; 06 Shadow is pratically dead so yeah ... he is out of question
    now let's see what comes from this, always hyped for the future of IDW (hope it lasts long) and these characters (like Sega let me see Tangle in the gamed already)

  • @szkraft220
    @szkraft220 Před rokem +1

    id defo like to see you cover that annual! some very fun character moments in there!

    • @mateushenriquepinheiro3197
      @mateushenriquepinheiro3197 Před rokem

      I also want to see what he thinks of the annuals but maybe he doesn't see them as very important or relevant enough to cover in a full video?

  • @tylerwilson1024
    @tylerwilson1024 Před rokem +2

    You know what teams I think be cool for Sonic series if we ever get another Sonic heroes 2?
    Team Rose:
    Speed- Amy
    flight- Cream
    Power- Rouge (she started off as a rival to knuckles that could kick wholes in steel, bring that back)
    Team immortal beings:
    Speed- Shadow
    Flight- Gemerl
    Power- Omega
    All weapons used by bad men that don’t age
    Diamond cutters, self explanatory

  • @Rman94
    @Rman94 Před rokem +2

    It's good to see Lanolin join the cast officially and I'm looking forward to see how she leads the Diamond Cutters going forward.

  • @ponderingForever
    @ponderingForever Před rokem +6

    Gosh I love her design so much

  • @KArchine
    @KArchine Před rokem +2

    Great video Nick! Always enjoy my dive further into the ongoing IDW narrative 😊

  • @minimalbstolerance8113
    @minimalbstolerance8113 Před rokem +2

    Agreed, Lanolin is NOT "the new Sally."
    She's not an overhyped piece of furrybait who's Mary Sue at everything, for a start...

  • @leahandbacon
    @leahandbacon Před rokem +1

    omg silver my entire day has been made

  • @fjordon87
    @fjordon87 Před rokem +2

    This man is saying he's right about the lamb being a Sally role and I respect that honestly lol

  • @CoolCodester
    @CoolCodester Před rokem +4

    Pretty sure the device she sends up with the wisp is a take on the Dreamcast VMU, screen and button layout match.

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 Před rokem +3

    Hm, well, this seems like an interesting Arc so far, I will look forward to see what you think of the rest.
    Also, yeah, we haven’t seen any Rings so far, have we? I didn’t even think about that, I wonder if we’ll see those this Comic.
    Anyway, fair and valid points and opinions all around, I can see where you’re coming from in regards to the Freedom Fighters, which I could agree with too, to a certain extent,
    I will look forward to see what you cover next.

  • @silveramyknux241
    @silveramyknux241 Před rokem +7

    I may be the funny badnik, but I don’t mind seeing the freedom fighters come back. I love their designs, interactions, and personalities from Archie and Satam.

    • @mateushenriquepinheiro3197
      @mateushenriquepinheiro3197 Před rokem

      I honestly would like to see how they would be reworked into the canon:
      Bunnie is the most interesting since there isn't any robotization in the canon universe so she would either not be half robot or they would come up with a different (and probably more gruesome) reason as to why she has robotic limbs.
      Antoine could be easily reworked as he could have been a general during sonic Forces that dealt with more convert operations (to explain why we didn't see him) and I would like if they kept his romantic relationship with Bunnie since that was one of the best written romance in the comic.
      Rotor is a weird case because he doesn't have a purpose anymore, many more interesting characters have been introduced that could feel his role and I'm sure the orangutan mechanic in the restoration already has his entire role covered. He could be worked into anything if I'm being honest and I would like if he was something of a goof ball scientist working at G.U.N to contrast with how serious everyone else working there is
      Hopefully I won't be crucified for saying this but Nicole and Sally are the ones I least want to see make a comeback, not because I hate them but because I feel people would act toxic after their introduction. Sally had such a "passionate" following that I fear what they would say if they got even one part of her character "wrong" but for Nicole is just that she doesn't serve a purpose outside of being tech support, she would also not have her holo-lynx design since that is a Archie original design

  • @rolfathan
    @rolfathan Před rokem +2

    I'm hoping that rings being introduced to the IDW series will actually be a big deal. Seems like a neat way to introduce them, rather than them just being a fact of life already, they have an entire story arc about them.

  • @DewMan31
    @DewMan31 Před rokem +6

    26:43
    Just now noticing that Lanolin is wearing an outfit that's eerily similar to Amy's classic design... clever lads.

  • @rossjones8656
    @rossjones8656 Před rokem +8

    I like the new characters showing up.

    • @manosdaskalakis4452
      @manosdaskalakis4452 Před rokem +4

      Me too. I didn't grow up with the freedom fighters. But I like tangle,lanolin,whisper,jewel etc. I don't mind them at all and I quite enjoy them

    • @rossjones8656
      @rossjones8656 Před rokem +1

      @@manosdaskalakis4452 Let's hope they can stay around.

  • @galactuskev
    @galactuskev Před rokem +2

    I remember when she showed up the first time. I thought this design is just too good to use once XD

  • @covalentbond2136
    @covalentbond2136 Před rokem +1

    @GameApologist The device at 6:50 appears to be the Dreamcast VMU, it's kind of a neat little detail they put in as an easter egg.

  • @Rman94
    @Rman94 Před rokem +2

    Eggman probably made these Chaos crystals due to the Chaos Emeralds scattering(again) after the Metal Virus ark, and between Rouge collecting them and the Doc's other projects he hasn't had time to track the real ones down himself.