The $300 Million Cable Between New York and Chicago
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We want a bricks video!
@@wikiwiki1093 yes we dooooo
WikiWiki109 ya
Actually I don't.
Bricks
"that WiFi connection is coming through a router"
*shows a picture of the PS5*
Well played, Mr Denby, well played.
Lmao i didnt even know it was a ps5, i legit thought it was a router
@@ronak_vyas me too xd
Ronak Vyas I DIDNT KNOW PEOPLE STILL LIVE UNDER ROCKS THESE DAYS!
Also the "massive servers sitting in data centers" look an awful lot like bitcoin miners.
Michael Chater not everyone likes video games and memes
He saw the brick comments lads. We’re relevant
Yay but we did not get a brick video
brick video
Suggest things to do with government secrets, and every video we get a bit about bricks :)
Still waiting on the brick video...
@@R4Y7 you are smart
I genuinely snorted when he put up a picture of a PS5 when he said "router"
Had to go back and make sure I hadn't mistaken a normal router for a PS5
@@itsKyuhl same for a second haha. I was like "did I actually see that right or was it actually a router?" Lmaooo
no it was a wii
Well ps5 IS by definition a router...
Pls don't wooosh me...
I didn't even realize lol
Internet: All the knowledge of mankind are available, People: Bricks
Hey, all knowledge includes bricks, is either all or nothing.😏
@@sion8 Well said
YAN YAN You need some of that all that knowledge
Griffin Griffin Seriously? It would’ve been how do you actually used knowledge to construct the sentence so that it made sense.
420th like
You know it’s true when even HAI thinks the PS5 looks like a wifi router
It's a PlashSpeed 5 router
I appreciate the HAI jokes and memes but the timing of seeing that PS5 was the best.
NMGOR 2 Xbox better
@@HeenaPatel253 bro
gameboy clearly the superior console
Now look what you guys did! You started a console war...
Fun fact: HAI has existed for almost three years and we *STILL* don't have a video about bricks.
*give us our brick video*
We want bricks!
BRRRRRRICCCCCCKKKKKKSSSSS
BRICK!
LEGO BRICKSSSSSS
Vinícius No, we *need* bricks.
Minor goof: The speed of light *in glass* (and thus, in fiber) is quite significantly less than 300M m/s.
Technically, it's about 2/3 or 66% the speed of light in a vacuum :)
so when I play a game and have 50 ping the servers are 7 meters from me
@@motalux Theoretically, 7500 km, but probably a lot closer due to routers taking some time doing the routing along the way.
Spivey's cable was actually improved upon by microwave radio and this may soon be improved upon again by hollow fiber optic cable.
Second minor goof, using the cable to trade as described is actually a form of arbitration and illegal.
Spivey's company is just renting out the connection...
@@motalux I don’t think you know the difference between a millisecond and a nanosecond.
Wendover: Planes and China
Polymatter: Tech companies and China
HAI: Bricks and China
Trump: trade war and China.
**Spends $300 million dollars to send information 3 milliseconds faster**
S T O N K S
litteraly, I mean
@@sergentmaso haha good one the commenter should've made a joke about that
@Dr ROLFCOPTER! 1.55 × 10^25 years? That's a long time...
3ms can you an react fast enough for it to make a difference? It 400ms to blink your eye
@@grateful. I assume it's computers doing the trading rather than people
"So unlike Hillary Clinton in 2016, we need to go to the Midwest." 😂😂😂😂 Gold.
He has to dig everyone, y'know
I heard it but didn’t catch it. Yes. Gold
Dang, I first heard it as: "let's talk money - unlike Hillary Clinton" 😄
Still made sense to me.
Why would anyone vote for Hillary, she is obviously corrupt.
@Adymn Sani She had no excuse for that, she had advance warning. She knew exactly what happened in the Brexit vote and why, she then did exactly the same thing to the same people but in the US and expected a different result. Sure enough she got what was predicted. Some people are beyond stupid.
The nanosecond joke had me for a second. I was like wait. There’s gotta be a reason it’s 47 nanosec- oh... nope.
I DONT GET IT
'$300m dollars for a cable'
Australian NBN: "hold my beer"
“The New York City of places that aren’t New York City” is the best description I have ever heard of Chicago and “New Jersey, gross” is the best description I have ever heard of New Jersey
I am offended at HAI because I love the state that I live in, I am not offended from you though, it is okay.
Joe Sho #ChaseFor28 NJ cities suck but the country and shore is actually quite nice
Stephanie Summer And the suburbs. Even though they are very close to the cities, they are wayyy nicer. Like I live around 20-30 minutes from Newark minus traffic, but it’s like two different worlds
We New Jerseyans that *don't* live in the shitty sections like Newark, Linden, etc. are offended by that because New Jersey is beautiful and great except for the shitty sections like Newark, Linden, etc.
@Kevin Sun We have countrysides? Where? Is in the endlessness of South Jersey?
This video should be called:
"Why this millisecond costs $100,000,000"
"The Hundred Million Dollar Millisecond"
When I was a kid in Elementary school I told my classmates about these underground/underwater cables that connected to other countries but no one believed me. 😭😂
"the longer the cable, the longer ir takes".
My brain can't cope with so much complexity
> coming through a "router"
> *shows PS5 console*
*through
@@wikiwiki1093
*stolen from who?*
Some one we took it from his mom
Hurray, you got the joke
This was stolen from "tri gon" who has over 700 likes.
When HAI doesn't include airplanes or bricks
*Sad viewer noises*
Why is Donald Trump pretty and I am not? But why does he only have a wife but I have TWO HOT GIRLFRIENDS who I show off in my masterpiece YT videos? Do you know the answer, dear cedric
AxxL uh tf does this have to do with airports?
Space Shuttle fans are feeling particularly left out
(Because the Space Shuttle orbiter flew like a brick while landing. Also, the silica tiles on the bottom are basically heat-absorbing bricks)
So you’re telling me if this cable is cut, the stock market wouldn’t have a good time?
*Ferb, I know what we’re gonna do today*
Ferb:
Perry: [INSERT PLATAPUS NOICES]
Lol pretty much.
Nope the stock market would be fine. Just that one company abertraging the difrence in price between the two excanges would be fucked
@@sion8 platypus*
Q: What’s red and bad for your teeth?
A: Bricks.
Albert Batfinder they’re orange
@Just some Forest Ranger with Internet Access
That's not a woosh, he got the joke.
Is this a woosh on a woosh?
I got the joke, im offended yall thought i was braindead :(
@@aoaoaaoaoao889 i know u arent braindead i just noticed that it looked like someone got wooshed while whoosing someone
Next step: A particle accelerator that generates neutrinos to shoot in a straight line through the earth to get it down to 12 milliseconds
@Mehdi _Local Man intercepts stock exchange by installing camera in frozen lake_
Nah, it'd be like 6 milliseconds, since the speed of light in a vacuum is about twice that of the speed of light in a glass fiber, and neutrinos would move through the earth very similarly to how light moves through a vacuum.
This is just speedrunning for capitalists
@@jamesburleson1916 Nice
No joke, neutrino communication became possible that is the first thing it would be used for.
2:05 well actually it doesn't travel close to that particular speed... Optical fibre typically has a refractive index around 1.45, which makes the speed more like 2/3 that.
you ok, buddy? You seem very lonely :(
@@blabla-rg7ky Simple physics = lonely. Okay buddy.
@@isse6790 simple nerdiness = lonely. No problem
Also add in the fact that the beam itself doesn't travel in a straight line. It actually constantly reflects off the inner coating of the wire since it's nearly impossible to make the beam not enter the wire at an angle.
@@blabla-rg7ky ?
i’m convinced this bloke looks up “kind of interesting facts” and when he sees one he’s like “right then i could work with this i guess”
Otherwise known as sitting on Reddit
"To your friend's computer"
I don't think my friend uses a Commodore 64 to read emails.
Put everything in brick futures. The price will go up when HAI finally makes a video.
I think we should invest in hummus. It's going places.
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 A fellow James Veitch viewer I see.
In France we use escargots antennas rather than wifi router, pretty efficient
I’m an idiot
@@ekflex2953 we know :)
Effectivement on utilise des escargots pour l’Internet. Merci SFR
I thought wine and garlic were also involved. 😕
Est-ce que vous avez remarqué que à 1:31 il parle de routeur en montrant une image de PS5
TRIGGERED
Imagine cutting that cable...
Best. Prank. EVER
A grandma did this to Armenia already
FBI wants to know your location
No joke, I actually work in those datacenters I’m Secaucus NJ. Lol. And some of my co workers in Chicago. Can be a lot of fun and sometimes aggravating. Most of my nights are spent in those data centers. :)
Also depicted in the movie “The Hummingbird Project” with Selma Hayek and Jesse Eisenburg.
But there they failed at this project.
Cheshire concept still stands
and Flash Boys by Michael Lewis
Also kinda a plot point of an episode of Elementary. Assuming, I haven't finished much of video yet.
Hello daddy 💋
So you're telling me WhatsApp lied to me when they said instant messaging was one of their features?
"less than the cost of an M1134 Anti tank launcher"
Lmao
So funny! And informative. Love it. Thanks, HAI!
Note that, because of the angle of light sent through optical cables, it’s effective speed is close to 2/3rds the speed of light- hence why spacex’s starlink can compete with cable
The speed of light in materials is also lower than the speed of light in vacuum.
@@hellelujahh It's not just the speed of light of the medium for a fiber optic cable that slows the effective speed but the fact that the light bounces off the edges which increases the actual distance the light will travel.
@@hellelujahh Technically, the speed of light remains the same, it just bumps into stuff so the actual distance it has to travel is longer
If it will be availablr and cheaper than the ISPs where I live in, I would give my money to elon
@@manusjiedowen-ck12a18, it would be available everywhere on a globe. It is already available in spaceX for testing.
I don’t want a video about bricks, I want a one hour comprehensive documentary about bricks.
So a full history of the brick from earliest use to modern execution?
1:30 is so good, I love your content so much!
The way this channel twist stuff to make it entertaining especially the memes are the reason why I subscribe
Chicago? There are 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses
Ahh, i havn't watched that film in a while.
Hit it! 😎
@Evil Component I think blues brothers but not too sure
@Evil Component Schindler's List.
Fantastic movie, but that part is quite a shift in tone.
It is The Blues Brothers
Side note: Light travels slower in glass (fiber) when compared to vacuum. About 40% - 50% slower. That's the whole point to sell Spacex's Starlink to high frequency traders.
does it "travel slower" or just go further bouncing around inside the fiber ....?
@@travissobeck4939 It actually does both.
@@travissobeck4939 The light doesnt really Bounce since its a wave, the wave just creates Dipoles in Atoms which cause interfirence, and the wave gets slightly out of Phase and since the Information is send via Pulses, these Pulses will arrive a little later. I had a course about that stuff last Semster at Univeristy.
@@ProPowerMax Isn't light both a photon and a wave? So it doesn't really matter?
@@ProPowerMax hahaha .. its always a matter of just how far down the rabbit whole do you want to go :)
1:30 "... through a router..."
Shows the PS5... BRILLIANT!
Actually, the signals don’t travel close to the speed of light... The signal travels 83% the speed of light over the RG6 cables used for cable modems, and 67% for most optical fibers.
Guy: spends $300 million to make $0.01
S T O N K S
@Anant Tiwari r/whoooosh
The idea is to make $.01 at least 30,000,000,000 times
@@mohamedmahmoud4045 redditor 🤢🤮
@@mohamedmahmoud4045 Bro, that was mad funny, he said not to do that and you did that. Haha you got the whole comment section laughing bro, total peak comedy genius.
Use this as the "We still demand the brick video" button
He should do it on his Wendover Productions channel have it around fifteen minutes.
One of the funniest video ever, the PS5 router reference was the icing on the cake. You confirmed my suspicion that the stock exchange floor is an act in these modern times. Keep up the good work.
“Coming through a router” 😂😂😂
I nearly spit out my drink.
Last time I was this early this guy was talking about how taking pictures of the Eiffel tower at night was illegal
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That's a lie.
@@athirkell ikr? 😁
I didn’t know Secaucus actually had something interesting besides a shopping complex and a burned white cedar forest that turned into a marsh. Ah yes, Wall Street. Very bourgeois
Now that we know where Kim Jong Un really lives
I'm calling SWAT
There are a ton of Data centers in Secaucus. Also some random data centers around NJ further outside the city as well. A lot of them were put in place after 9/11 for obvious reasons.
Minor error I would like to point out:
The data itself doesn't actually travel at the speed of light. The data is sent through fiber-optic cables, which are technically not wires. Fiberoptic cables allow light to bend with the cable (not going in a straight line such as in air or water). On each end of the fiberoptic cable, there is a laser and a sensor that detects the light coming from the other device. By pulsing the laser at high speed, the devices can transmit data. The pulses of laser light do travel at the speed of light. (The speed of light through optical fiber is slightly slower than through a vacuum.) The rate of data transmission is limited by the rate at which the transmitter can pulse the laser.
No one:
That one guy that doesn’t call diggers hotline before he digs his trench: *oops*
Last time i was this early this channel was still fully intresting
@@zombie123443211 who are you answering to.
"This is a stock exchange. There's no money you can steal."
Edgelord Bane: "Rally? Then why are you people here?"
well it is designed to generate profit for those who can afford to join this club. a club that turns a profit on your profit.
@@naotamf1588 you can afford it tho.
Correct it's not some kinda heist staring professor.
Yes, you don't steal money, it's just private data feeds information.
@@naotamf1588 its not hard to buy stocks lol
"That wifi connection is coming through a router that's connected to a bunch of underground wires" [shows PS5]
That made me laugh, I appreciate you
Man these videos are really high quality
Video idea: What is the most expensive word/sentence spoken?
You have to submit it his website if you want him to see it.
"Funding secured"
"LET'S GET READY TO *FUMBLE"
*misquote to avoid copywrite infringement
“I do” - those words will cost you your life.
“Whoops”
Ya know you can just take a flight beetween these two cities.
1:31 “A router” 😂😂😂 lmao
Was reading about this in the book Flash Boys.
HAI managed to summarize the book in 6 minutes. Thanks!
Story time: My former engineering teacher, was working on something that required the team to dig. The man from the utility company told him that this 300 million dollar wire was attached to a pipeline on one side, so they dug on the other. While the team was digging, my engineering teacher got a bad feeling, and told the team to stop. The utility guy was wrong about the location, they were a matter of inches from tearing the 300 million dollar wire.
TL;DR: My engineering teacher almost broke this wire.
@Joseph Douek: Epic lawsuit ensues.
@@seneca983 Nope. You fail to mark your cable, it's your fault if someone "finds" it for you.
"Backhoe fade"
@@mikecowen6507: I don't know how the liability would fall in a case like that but I suspect the owner of the cable would likely try to recover at least something even if they'd ultimately settle for far less than the amount of loss.
@@seneca983 They "called Julie before they dug" so the cable owner sues Julie for the outage? Anyhow if the cable owner doesn't have a repair service handy they are unwise.
It feels like my Direct TV cable costs $300 million just for a couple of channels
I think this is gonna be the top comment
@@wikiwiki1093 I thought so too that's why I liked
@@wikiwiki1093 I have never heard of Direct TV cables so I don't think so
Time to cut the cable and torrent lol
This fiber optic cable was made obsolete by a microwave link created by a competing hedge fund... this would be a great topic for another video!
What do we want?
“Brick video!”
When do we want it?
“When we had enough with Sams awkward joke! Which is never!”
Thank you for incorporating humor into your video. Keeps us paying attention even more so. Good job!
“The mind is not a vessel to be filled, but a fire to be kindled.”
― Plutarch
Do you just trawl channels dumping random 'words of wisdom' all over the place? Most of them don't even have any relation to the video. Maybe some people like them, I assume you see it as some grandiose thing, however from my perspective it all seems rather pointless.
which plutarch
uhm, plutarch? The guy that plays soccer with me every week?!? LOL no way he said that. the guy's dumb as a brick :)
Been a while since I saw a video from here on a topic I didn't know already. I'm still waiting.
The Cable is not used anymore. They built towers with antennas on top in sight of each other and send it through the air now, because light travels faster in air than in a fibre optic cable
Living in Jersey... I always felt like there was millions of dollars running underneath my feet. now i know why
Are you sure that wasn't money flowing out of your pocket.
I mean when Chris Christie was still in office you could’ve just looked outside at any piece of public infrastructure and your question would’ve been answered.
I feel like this has to be illegal.....
Wouldn't this guy have had to secure the rights to tunnel through loads of both private and government properties in order to lay this massive cable? That would have cost an absolute fortune, and likely required either quite a few major kickback deals from the use of the cable or a whole lot of subterfuge. The only alternative is that he did a lot of the digging illegally, and if so then sections of his cable should now be owned by a whole host of individuals and local governments. I feel like we're missing a major detail here...
@@Havron, they made a movie about it.
Hummingbird Project.
@@Havron Or he just... paid them, because you know, rich people.
@@Cheshiremd Thanks! I found out about it whilst researching the project on Wikipedia (unfortunately the article has no information on the legalities of the project). I've added it to my to-watch list!
@@isse6790 Of course. That's what I'm saying: To do it legally, he would have had to pay lots of parties for the rights to tunnel through their land, and you would think that at least some of those people would have been savvy enough to ask what the cable was for, and demand a percentage of the earnings of its use or, at the very least, a very hefty upfront fee. In any case, considering all that, it's astonishing that he was able to do it for _only_ $300 million, and keep it secret to boot!
1:58 Wow, the C-64 screen brought back memories.
You forgot to mention, light doesn't actually travel through fiberoptic cable in a straight line, it bounces off the walls. Thats way the pro HFT shops send signals to Chicago via Microwave towers not fiber
That beginning, of the "Stock Exchange".. Banter ~
“Study hard what interests you the most in the most undisciplined, irreverent and original manner possible.”
― Richard Feynmann
Would like to point out that the light moving through an optical fiber isn't even moving remotely close to the speed of light...
Most optical fibers are able to reach speeds around 60-85% the speed of light. (Light in a vacuum is one thing, but as fast as there is stuff there, it gets slowed down, and glass is a lot of stuff...)
A signal moving across a printed circuit board on the other hand moves at about 50% the speed of light. This is also roughly true for a lot of cables.
But, then we have coaxial cables, there the max speeds can reach over 95% the speed of light. (mainly due to the far lower dielectric value of the insulation.)
Though, most of the shelf coax cables are typically around 60-85%... (Low loss cables on the other hand go higher.)
HAI: Tells a really good story
Me: *_I’m still confused on his pfp.._*
someone: **cuts it**
they automatically fall back to 16ms route while they are fixing the cut
Is the Armenian Grandma at it again?
Miguel Rodríguez Yup
When you are so early everyone is arguing who's first...
Seriously, what's the point?
yes true
fake internet points make peepee go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt
It's done with satelite now. You can see the dishes in Aurora il.
I know people were saying it as a joke but for real that video where you started to talk about bricks as a cover was lowkey really interesting and i'd watch tf out that
Short Answer: Because the Internet
It also depends on the latency in your computer, your home network, signal processing at the start of the cable, signal processing the the nd of the cable, and also the local network where you are sending it.
PS5 as a Router hahahahhahahah best pun ever on CZcams you deserve an award ahhahah I liked the video and subscribed these puns better keep flowing haahahah
Last time I was this early people were still saying "Last time I was still early"
THIS ISN'T A BRICK VIDEO
I WANT A BRICK VIDEO
GIVE ME A BRICK VIDEO
WHERE IS THE BRICK VIDEO
One of the best movies I watched was "The humming bird project" it was about this cable, would recommend watching it!
All six minutes of that went over my head, thanks
Even though I know this is legal and accepted it still feels like a huge scam.
Actually, the whole stock market feels like a huge scam...but that's another show.
Just because something is legal, doesn't make it good.
I have a server closet in that Secaucus location and I helped build the first terrestrial satellite network between Chicago and NY in the beginning of flash trading. We were able to undercut the roundtrip by a few milliseconds AMA
Bruh you’ve intrigued me so many times that I would really love a video on bricks!
On the subject of bricks, I actually used to work as an automation engineer at a factory that made bricks...
HAI: Satellite connection sucks.
Elon Musk: Hold my Starlink.
That part of the vid might get outdated quite fast
1:40
Elon musk: " excuse me what did u just say?"
I see this came out a year ago but I felt I could add to the facts. I have had the pleasure of talking to Dan and James Barksdale (who was also the CEO of Netscape) and I was educated on how it all worked...my work on the at the time had me installing voice equipment inches from the main router that controlled that link... they actually had to introduce some latency due to how fast it was.. another surprising fact, their corp office is in Mississippi far aware from New York and Chicago.... its interesting how many people don't know the importance of Mississippi when it comes to coast to coast communications
I just love your humor 😅🤣😅🤣
When you're so early that you head straight to the comments without watching the video
I remember hearing about this on NPR. Time to listen to a true professional describe it.
One of the funniest scripts yet. Well done, sir
One quick correction, while there is a colocation data center in Secaucus, it's owned by Equinix. The one owned by NYSE is in Mahwah, NJ and the one owned by NASDAQ is in Carteret, NJ. IIRC the one in Secaucus just serves as an interconnect between exchanges but the actual trading happens off-site. (Could be wrong though, would appreciate corrections if anyone knows)
Also another fun fact is that a lot of firms use microwave now instead of the cable since light travels faster through air than fiberoptic cables
The book "Flash Boys" by Michael Lewis is about this exact thing, and is SUPER interesting and well worth a read!
“New Jersey gross” I’m from New Jersey and I have to say: Agreeable
love the new more funny take on the videos. Still very informative though!
Damn, I really heard "The New York sock exchange" and was like, shid, that is cute. Look at that little happy fella'