Flic Film Black White and Green Review
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Flic Film has released a new black and white film developer that has both amazing shelf life and is environmentally friendly ... but how does it actually perform?
Read the blog article associated with this video www.sollows.ca...
UPDATE I’ve found a way around the measuring issue mentioned above. Use a digital scale that is able to measure in millilitres. You place the large 500ml beaker on the scale and zero the scale. Add your concentrate, 6ml for one roll in my example, then top up the beaker with water to the desired volume .. all using the scale, it works perfectly and totally addresses the syrup problem I mentioned in the article.
Grab a long tip measuring syringe off Amazon. They cost $6-8, and they've been my go-to for years. You can get them with 10"/25cm or 7"/18cm tips. I think the one I have at the moment is like 2 years old. I pull in the working solution and expel it a few times to flush the thing. Every once in a while I'll clean it a bit more than that, but not often. Glad to see someone giving Flic Film some airtime with this stuff. It is a fantastic developer - the same characteristics as Xtol w/o the annoying powder / 5L of liquid. Cheers.
Thanks for the tip!
@@jsollowsphotography I was gonna say, I do the same and it works extremely well, the syringe is a lifesaver for thick concentrates. The thickness is most likely due to it being a propylene glycol base, which is what gives it the excellent keeping properties and protects from oxygen degradation. Cheers
First: Ft. Langley FTW!
Second: digital kitchen scales are cheap like borscht and easy to find. Once a person knows the density, it would be easy to measure by weight (mass).
Greetings from the South Island, BC.
Great video BTW!
Yes you are quite right. In fact some digital scales will measure in ml. The description of the video includes an update that says exactly this.
UPDATE I’ve found a way around the measuring issue mentioned above. Use a digital scale that is able to measure in millilitres. You place the large 500ml beaker on the scale and zero the scale. Add your concentrate, 6ml for one roll in my example, then top up the beaker with water to the desired volume .. all using the scale, it works perfectly and totally addresses the syrup problem I mentioned in the article.
@@jsollowsphotography I missed the update in the description as it required clicking on “more”. I read it in your blog.
I can see how a scale could automatically interpret ml as grams if the specific gravity of the substance is 1.0. I’m skeptical that Flic Film green goo has the same density as water.
That said, I’m getting a couple of bottles pronto.
Thanks for your thorough review.
Fort Langley FOR THE WIN!
@@jsollowsphotography Great review. I am confused. What kind of digital scale measures in ml? Scales measure weight not volume. Of course if you know what the weight is per ml of the concentrate, once you figure that out you can use the scale. Can you please clarify what kind of scale measures in ml, perhaps point to one online? Thanks!
Hi Jim--I've been supportive of FlicFilm since they started and are very happy they are putting out useful products. I have used this developer and have two comments. 1. The solution to the developer dispensing issue is using an oral syringe. It 's the same problem as with 510 Pyro, which alos uses TEA as the primary solvent. I strongly suspect that BW&G also uses TEA as the solvent. The syringe is easy, you draw up what you need, squirt it into the beaker, and rinse the syringe into the beaker a couple of times and your done. 2. The main drawback to this developer is the prolonged development times such as 15 minutes for HP5+. If you were processing a bunch of film that would significantly prolong the session. Lastly I'm not sure that this is more "Green" than other ascorbic acid developers like Xtol and its clones (Eco Pro). However, to counter that it has the great advantage of TEA based developers and is likely to have a shelf life of years. Thanks for the nice video! Cheers!
Thanks for the comment. I did try a syringe and found it was still too thick. I did discover a solution. Notice the “Update” at the bottom of the show notes. I did a follow up video called “An easy way to measure darkroom chemistry” czcams.com/video/s2wNFJr0vWk/video.html this has totally resolved the problem.
Great video Jim! Been pondering that developer myself, might have to order some
You should!
This has become my day to day developer, super happy with it. I do like grain but this developer does seem to emphasize the grain in 5222 more thann I like. I think it may be just me needing to tweak my times and technique.
I can’t really comment as I’ve not shot that film at all. I’m an Ilford guy and it plays well with Ilford film.
@@jsollowsphotography I’m giving a couple rolls of Delta 400 a go with it this weekend actually!
@@sdcorrey I would love to hear your thoughts. How does it compare to 5222?
@@jsollowsphotography I don’t have any scans yet but the Delta 400 at 16:15 per Flic Film, came out really nice. Slightly more pronounced grain than with D-76 but it looks great, really sharp. I just did the usual thirty seconds of inversions at the start and then five inversions every minute. Im really happy with the results. Next time I’m going to try it in a rotary processor.
@@sdcorrey Hey thanks for reporting back Scott!! Good to hear! My normal developer is Ilford Ilfosol3 which I like a lot!
I have just bought this developer. What is the procedure for agitating when developing Kentmere 400? Thanks in advance.
I agitate all films the same. First minute and then 5 seconds every minute.
I use a syringe
I tried that but its very thick consistency so that didnt work. I added a note in the text that I found a solution using a weigh scale that measures in ml.
Maybe if it came in a pre measured foil pack ...one foil equals one role and so on...just squeeze the pre measured portion into the water and Bob's your uncle....just a thought
The problem was resolved. I mentioned in the show notes that a viewer suggested using a weigh scale that measures liquid volume in ml. I’ve been doing that ever since and it’s perfect.
This looks like great stuff. Question for you , have you encountered a film called H&W VTE Ultra panchromatic film? Got my hands on a few expired rolls and wonder if this new stuff can develop it. If you have any guidelines to process this film in modern day developer that would be great. Thanks
Hi Jody, I have no experience with that film. I recall it was originally created for US Government high altitude surveillance photos. I did a quick check and it looks like the film had its own special developer. Its a panchromatic film so if I was in your position, I would try to develop it in Rodinal. The timing would be a pure guess. I’ve successfully developed 80 yr old Verichrome Pan in Rodinal 1:50 for 11 minutes. It will be a matter of experimenting. You could try clip testing bits of the film leader to get you into the ball park for time. I hope that is some help. If you have more questions, go to my website www.sollows.ca and you can message me directly.
next time pull the concentrate with the syringe
No it's too thick. It has the consistency of molasses. I resolve the issue as mentioned in the slow notes.
15 minutes? Wow.
Sorry not sure I understand your question?
Looks like HC-110.
In appearance perhaps but beyond that it isn’t. It’s a very different product. Not even the same chemical base. The primary ingredient here is Vitamin C which is why it’s environmentally safe. HC-110 on the other hand is definitely not something you want to throw in your garden!