BMW N52 Engine HP and Torque AFTER the 3-Stage Intake Manifold and AA Headers Mod -- Dyno Test

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
  • In this video, I take my 2007 BMW 328i (E92) coupe back to the dyno to get the horsepower and torque numbers following the installation of the 3-stage intake manifold and the AA headers to see what the net gain was.
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Komentáře • 111

  • @jpwilliams5264
    @jpwilliams5264 Před 2 lety +47

    Cool, Mark Cuban drive an e92!

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety +9

      Lol. I am starting to hear that more often these days.

  • @gabrielpuebla5930
    @gabrielpuebla5930 Před 2 lety +18

    I've been a big fan of NA power in bmws for a while. This video has convinced me to start building my e90 328i for na power

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety +1

      Nice! Get a NA BMW while you still can. They aren't making any more of them. Keep me posted on what you decide to do with it.

    • @JupiterLXIX
      @JupiterLXIX Před 5 měsíci

      The 328i sounds INSANE with a supercharger and headers. I just bought a 128i and a ESS supercharger.

    • @sak7760
      @sak7760 Před měsícem

      @@JupiterLXIX how has that gone? Looking to do the same thing

  • @gregvandy8902
    @gregvandy8902 Před rokem +15

    Numbers on my car we're almost exactly what you got. Stock 328i 6mt 70k miles. I was very happy with the results. It feels a little quicker to me in the low rpm range but it's minor. Above 3500 it's noticeably stronger. The car always felt very strong accelerating from like 70-80mph to 100+ but it pulls much harder now. Haven't noticed any difference in fuel mileage.

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před rokem +2

      Nice! Hundred percent agree on the change in the driving characteristics. Thank you for your comment, and stay tuned for more videos!

    • @zureai
      @zureai Před rokem

      But have you noticed more wear and tear and earlier maintenance

  • @mikedodd9294
    @mikedodd9294 Před 3 měsíci +2

    great work! It really means something when someone dyno's before and after! Most people do it after or on a different dyno and their results are nearly meaningless. I did the 330i mod to my 2011 328i and its like a new car.

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 měsíci

      Thank you, brother! I wanted to do it right and do it justice through raw data. Enjoy your 328i!

  • @F06M6
    @F06M6 Před 2 lety +10

    This is great! I've got a very similar setup sitting on a shelf. AA headers, 3 stage manifold, and a tuner on speed dial. Very excited to see how it'll drive. 6 speed manual here too!

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety +2

      Awesome! Let me know how it turns out for you. I am really glad I did the mod.

  • @anthonysylvester4166
    @anthonysylvester4166 Před 2 lety +5

    Great gains! Thanks for getting the before dyno to compare. I daily an e92 n52 and have been debating if it was worth it. Helped a lot!

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety +3

      Thanks, buddy. I definitely wanted to record this video series the right way using objective data. When I was thinking about doing this mod, I checked out different videos on CZcams and just was not able to find an objective before and after to show the impact of the gains. Now we know. A lot of people told me not to do the mod because it was expensive and would not have resulted in huge gains, but I am so glad I did.

  • @brauliojuancarlospadillaro6122

    Have you read about the 3.91 diff , this is also a great mod for this car, I have it on my car and it’s amazing more fun to drive

  • @Medal6
    @Medal6 Před 2 lety +12

    There’s no way a N/A N52 is doing 300HP. It’ll do 280HP at best and that’s if you have headers, stage 3 intake and a tune.

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety +5

      I have all of those three mods. According to a conservative dyno machine, the car is producing 269 hp. Thanks for your comment!

    • @Medal6
      @Medal6 Před 2 lety +1

      @@GogoMotoring Not too shabby I’ll say

    • @strictlybagchasin5578
      @strictlybagchasin5578 Před 10 měsíci +2

      330i N52, AA headers, Tune, Charcoal Delete, Staight Piped, 300hp got it dynoe’d last week, u dead wrong homeboy
      , 255 to the wheels

    • @dabzik6521
      @dabzik6521 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Medal6 there is a n51 which is fbo and dyno showed 289hp crank and 400nm so n52 could get 300

  • @andrewhernandez42602
    @andrewhernandez42602 Před 2 lety +7

    This is with a tune or without tune ? Great n52 content aswell 👍🏼

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks, buddy. This is with the tune from Active Autowerks.

  • @statice922
    @statice922 Před 2 lety +5

    Nice increase! have been thinking about doing the same but i have n52b25, how much u think this smaller engine size will impact on the gains? btw love ur car, titan silber brother

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for your comment, bro. I love the silver color. So easy to take care of, and the car looks so classy. You probably won't have the same output in the N52b25 due to smaller displacement, but I am not 100% sure. In the U.S., we only got the 3.0 liter in the E9# series. Keep me posted on what you decide to do.

  • @nelsonx4235
    @nelsonx4235 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for breaking the data for us!

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety

      Absolutely. Very glad to be able to share objective data with you guys so that you all can make an informed decision.

  • @LordFarquad007
    @LordFarquad007 Před 2 lety +3

    Nice I'm about to to the same mod on my 2011 328i I was gonna supercharge it but NA and suspension upgrades is my new route got her 3 months ago imported from Germany with 70k miles

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před rokem

      Awesome! You are going to love it. I am very happy with this mod. It really wakes the car up. Keep me posted on how it turns out.

  • @Speciallytarted
    @Speciallytarted Před rokem +1

    Awesome man congrats

  • @shahrukhameer6826
    @shahrukhameer6826 Před rokem

    making more content n52 bro, I’m from malaysia keep supporting you

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před rokem

      Thank you, brother. I will definitely make more N52 content. Appreciate your support. Thank you for watching, and stay tuned for more content.

  • @litkochan8021
    @litkochan8021 Před 2 lety +6

    Your math is hilarious! Over 300hp from 3 stage manifold and AA headers mods. If you talk a little faster, it might add up to 400hp 😂

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety +3

      The mods resulted in a gain of 30 wheel horsepower. BMW is known for officially underestimating the horsepower of its vehicles. When the E9# 328i first came out, even though it was rated at 230 hp, there were articles written about the car actually producing closer to 260 hp stock. Same case for the 2007 BMW 335i which was officially rated at 300 hp but was producing closer to 330 hp. So the discussion really centers more about what the true horsepower could be assuming BMW official figures were conservative, which they almost always are. But if you want to know what the impact of the mod was for my car in particular, it was slightly less than 30 hp at the wheels. Thank you.

    • @RingerRacing
      @RingerRacing Před 2 lety +2

      @@GogoMotoring but its not producing 260 stock,...they make 201whp stock which is about 230 flywheel .. it makes zero sense that this is making 260 hp stock if it makes 200whp stock...30whp is a wonderful gain however, hope all is well

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety +1

      @@RingerRacing According to the dyno shop owner, their dyno machine shows more conservative dyno numbers than a dynojet (sp?) machine, which is apparently the most commonly used one. The dyno shop owner said to apply an additional 15% increase to the displayed numbers to arrive at what the numbers would be on a dynojet machine. Just sharing what I was told. Have a good one.

    • @RingerRacing
      @RingerRacing Před 2 lety +3

      @@GogoMotoring cool story , the n52 doesnt make 260 flywheel stock.

    • @litkochan8021
      @litkochan8021 Před rokem +1

      If you think your tuned n52 produces 300hp, try to do a drag race against a stock 135i (300hp) and let us know the results. I have an n51 128i with AA headers and Stage FP nice. The gain is nice. But it’s no where near 300hp or even 290hp. I know n51 has slightly lower compression which runs about 8-10 hp less than an n52 with the same mods. My butt dyno estimates 30hp gain which puts it right around 260. With your mods, I think yours is around 270hp top. Get a dyno done to and let us know your whp.

  • @sazzadahmed3319
    @sazzadahmed3319 Před rokem +2

    Hi, did you apply tune for the car to make 3 stage manifold work

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před rokem +1

      I did. I purchased the AA tune. I have some other videos on all the work that went into the mod if you would like to see them. Thanks!

  • @pastorgains999
    @pastorgains999 Před rokem +1

    Do you have a price for each thing you did to the car? The manifold, AA headers and tune? Thank you.

  • @Jason-hl2wy
    @Jason-hl2wy Před 2 lety +2

    I have a n51 E92, comes with the 3 stage intake , just gotta figure how to go about headers + tune

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety +1

      I bought mine from Active Autowerks, and I have been pleased with the results. Best of luck!

    • @Mdot401
      @Mdot401 Před 2 lety +1

      Me too, I heard we can flash it to 330i or should I just tune it with the 3 stage intake manifold

  • @adamsultan22
    @adamsultan22 Před 21 dnem +1

    How much did you get the manifold for

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 15 dny

      I bought it private party, and it was about $250 from what I remember. It was a great deal because it had functioning DISA valves attached to it as well.

  • @tamalama1496
    @tamalama1496 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I have a stock 2006 e90 330i 6spd manual, any other mods recommendations? Anything to make it more reliable?

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před měsícem

      What kind of reliability issues are experiencing? In the world of BMWs, the e90 330i is as about as reliable as it gets. Do you still have the run flat tires? I would ditch those immediately and replace them with summer tires or at a minimum Michelin All Seasons (depending on weather where you live and your budget).

  • @Uranium21
    @Uranium21 Před rokem +1

    you only gained around 25hp? the 3 stage intake manifold alone should of increased it by 30hp and 9 whp more with the aa headers
    were your disa valves in good condition?

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před rokem +1

      30 wheel horsepower gain. The disa valves were in good condition. That's probably a 45 horsepower gain at the crank.

    • @djkjthe3rd185
      @djkjthe3rd185 Před 7 měsíci

      @@GogoMotoring 30 hp gain at wheels=30 hp gain at crank...

  • @camposjesus3725
    @camposjesus3725 Před 2 lety +2

    Where did you get your tune

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety

      Active Autowerks. Thanks for your comment!

  • @NovieBigSad
    @NovieBigSad Před rokem +1

    Hi. I have a tune on my 328xi Coupe and am wondering if headers are worth it? AA advertises a gain of 20Hp for headers alone

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před rokem

      Do you have the three stage intake manifold installed already?

    • @NovieBigSad
      @NovieBigSad Před rokem

      @@GogoMotoring I do not. I just have a tune on it

    • @NovieBigSad
      @NovieBigSad Před rokem +1

      @@GogoMotoring I do not. Just a tune on the engine

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před rokem +1

      @@NovieBigSad You probably would need at a minimum the 3-stage intake manifold, which I believe results in a bigger power increase than the AA headers. The N51 engine that was in the 2006 BMW 330i, which produced 255 horsepower stock, had the 3-stage intake manifold. When the 328i was released with the N52 engine, the 3 stage intake manifold was replaced with the single stage intake manifold, which in turn resulted in the stock horsepower decreasing to 230 horsepower. Conservatively, my car is now producing between 265 and 275 horsepower. Assuming the 3-stage intake manifold brought the horsepower up to the stock 330i numbers, i.e., a 25 horsepower increase, you could assume that the headers produced between an additional 10 - 20 horsepower. Does this answer your question?
      To do the mod properly, you should install a 3 stage intake manifold and the AA headers and get a tune optimized to maximize the power with these mods. If you had to just pick one, I would go with the 3 stage intake manifold with a tune because the AA headers can cause some issues when the car is at idle as shown in my latest video.

    • @Jdavid32
      @Jdavid32 Před rokem

      How much power did you make and what wear is your 328xi

  • @EmpraMcdade
    @EmpraMcdade Před 2 lety +1

    so you're around 300 hp and torque? just wanna know the finals results overall as to what you should be making? I'm just curious cause I wanna get aa headers too soon so I'd wanna know what numbers you're at now.

    • @gabrieldasilva4198
      @gabrieldasilva4198 Před 2 lety +1

      Same bro

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety +3

      Here are the official numbers:
      HP - 269 horsepower on a conservative dyno; applying an additional 20% increase as stated by the dyno shop brings you to 323 horsepower. The midpoint of the range is 296 horsepower.
      Torque - 237.5 pound foot of torque on a conservative dyno; applying an additional 20% increase as stated by the dyno shop brings you to 285 pound foot of torque. The midpoint of the range is 261 pound foot of torque.
      My car is RWD with a manual transmission.
      I hope this helps! You can tell a difference behind the wheel, especially at above 4,000 RPM. Keep me posted on what you decide to do.

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety

      @@gabrieldasilva4198 Just posted the numbers above. Thanks!

    • @EmpraMcdade
      @EmpraMcdade Před 2 lety

      @@GogoMotoring nice numbers, also I was told you don't have to get a tune after you install active autowerks headers cause you still feel the power gains in the top end.

    • @GPN0820BOSTON
      @GPN0820BOSTON Před 2 lety +1

      I'm a little confused by the math here. How did you come to 323 hp?
      I thought the dyno measured the car at 229 whp? Accounting for drive train loss, you're adding how much?

  • @nikkifurlong5740
    @nikkifurlong5740 Před měsícem +1

    Can anyone send me the link for the 330i tune

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před měsícem

      I bought the tune from Active Autowerke, but my mechanic placed the order for everything. If you can't find the tune on Active Autowerke website, let me know, and I will see if I can find a link.

    • @nikkifurlong5740
      @nikkifurlong5740 Před měsícem

      @GogoMotoring thank you much appreciated

  • @hectorespinoza7641
    @hectorespinoza7641 Před rokem +1

    Mind me asking can you share the link to the aa headers

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před měsícem

      They should be on the Active Autowerke website. Let me know if you can’t find them, and I will look for a link.

  • @dg7438
    @dg7438 Před rokem +1

    What does this do to engine reliability long term?

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před rokem

      Stay tuned. Haven't had any issues so far other than the rev counter hunting for RPMs at idle sometimes. I made a video about it. It's really just annoying more than anything else.

    • @tolgabacavuz
      @tolgabacavuz Před 4 měsíci

      @@GogoMotoring any updates on this?

  • @mariob616
    @mariob616 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It’s so dissapointing that stock it only produces 200 hp instead of the specified 218

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 7 měsíci

      That’s 200 hp at the wheels, which means that it was producing at least 230 hp at the engine when it was stock. You lose power as it travels from the engine to the wheels.

  • @hungrymynd5673
    @hungrymynd5673 Před rokem +1

    Hi, which tune did you get?

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před rokem

      I got the AA tune.

    • @hungrymynd5673
      @hungrymynd5673 Před rokem +1

      @@GogoMotoring thanks, any issues so far?

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před rokem

      @@hungrymynd5673 A minor one so far. I posted a video on it on my channel and will keep you all updated on how it gets resolved.

  • @samuelfowler2157
    @samuelfowler2157 Před 2 lety +1

    Fastech in Knoxville?

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety

      Yes, sir. Great group of guys.

    • @samuelfowler2157
      @samuelfowler2157 Před 2 lety +1

      @@GogoMotoring Yeah they are. You local?

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 2 lety

      @@samuelfowler2157 I am. Do you live here as well? Be on the lookout for a couple of silver BMWs. ;)

    • @samuelfowler2157
      @samuelfowler2157 Před 2 lety +1

      @@GogoMotoring will do. I have a white evo x. I work at the opposite end of topside so I drive by fastech everyday. I'm sure I'll see you around. My girl just got a 09 328i. She loves bmw so I'm trying to learn a bit about them bec I have a problems with having to mod everything lol

  • @davyvandeven5350
    @davyvandeven5350 Před rokem +1

    Set your timing back, that's make a different

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 11 měsíci

      Resetting the adaptions fixed some of the idling issues I had.

  • @awdaltima2
    @awdaltima2 Před 3 měsíci

    I just switched to the 3im and the car is still slow af

  • @masscomnet
    @masscomnet Před 10 měsíci +1

    You can get to 300hp with headers, tune, intake . . . and MILVs.

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 10 měsíci

      I have the headers, tune, and intake, but not the MILVs. Nice upgrade to the car!

  • @tk2070
    @tk2070 Před rokem

    Intro is cringe but second intro with the music i loved

    • @tk2070
      @tk2070 Před rokem

      Remove that weird baby voice intro super cringe, absolutely loved the music part rifht after tho

  • @brauliojuancarlospadillaro6122

    Have you read about the 3.91 diff , this is also a great mod for this car, I have it on my car and it’s amazing more fun to drive

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před rokem

      I actually have not heard about that mod. What is it?

  • @brauliojuancarlospadillaro6122

    Have you read about the 3.91 diff , this is also a great mod for this car, I have it on my car and it’s amazing more fun to drive

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před rokem

      What does the mod do? Will definitely look into it. Thanks for your comment, and stay tuned for more videos!

  • @brauliojuancarlospadillaro6122

    Have you read about the 3.91 diff , this is also a great mod for this car, I have it on my car and it’s amazing more fun to drive

    • @joachimwaagaard7814
      @joachimwaagaard7814 Před rokem

      What model is the 3.91 diff from? 328xi auto?

    • @brauliojuancarlospadillaro6122
      @brauliojuancarlospadillaro6122 Před rokem

      @@joachimwaagaard7814 Yes! from all the modifications thats probably the one that has given the more sporty feeling to the car.

    • @GogoMotoring
      @GogoMotoring  Před 11 měsíci

      Tell me more. What is the mod and what does it do?