@@hectormorales8404 Where did Pippen come from and when did he become an All-Star? And who beat Jordan in the playoffs? Yeah, stop watching basketball Morales.
It's simple ... THE NIGHT LEBRON JAMES BROKED THE JORDAN POINTS RECORDS ... HE DID IT WITH NEAR 1,300 LESS SHOTS than jordan (point for lebron, proof of having a better percentage of effectiveness) LEBRON, - also-ALREADY AT THAT TIME HAD MORE REBOUNDS THAT JORDAN .... (another item in superiority of lebron) AND IF IT WAS A LITTLE, HE ALSO HAD MUCH MORE ASSISTANCE THAN JORDAN, (another area of superiority of lebron) and not to mention, many MORE BLOCKS ... Whoever says that Jordan is better lebron is as absurd as doubting the only exact science that is mathematics ... It is acceptable that someone for personal taste, style say that he likes Jordan the most, -in fact is my case- ..... but that I say that it is better should be taken only as an emotion, because the facts do not support it! Objectivity tells us that LEBRON is the most complete and greatest of all time.
@@pianomusic9699 lol 😂😂 are you serious?? MJ is a 6-0 in the finals, 10 scoring titles, 6 finals mvps , 5mvps, 2-time dunk contest champion with only 14 seasons and never going to another team 😅😂😅 Lebron is nowhere near to MJ 😂😅
@Obito xshinobi mj had the better coach and players thats y he didn't leave...... and kobe was not even the best player in 3 of his 5 championships ,it was shaq
@@bamboozled939 MJ had 0 all-stars for the begging of his career. Same did LBJ. But LBJ decided to leave and go make a super team but MJ stayed and 3 peated with just one other all-star on his team. MJ also didn't even have an all-star on his team on the bulls won their first ring. LBJ always had at least 2 all-star when he won cham[ionships but MJ could do it with 0.
@@abelthegoat2471 lbj went to the finals in 2007 without any stars as mj didn't even past the 1st round without pippen ....mj by 1988 or 1990 had prrfect coach ,a developed pippen, and good role players so u cant just say with one allstar, there was no need to leave....after mj 1st retirement his bulls team even reached conference finals without mj
@@bamboozled939 MJ never missed the playoffs with 0 help while LBJ didn't even make it 2 times. And stop overrating pippen cause he's only a 7 time all star ut of his 16 year career he was never good as everyone says just watch him play. And Bulls reached the conference finals because they drafted players like Kukoc and Kerr and they traded for other players and their role players actually stood up as well. That was the year that the Bulls team really hit their prime. And sure MJ had the best coach of all time but LBJ had a top 30 player of all time who's a 13 time all star and he had Chris bosh, Shaq and Allen they only won 2 rings out of their 4 years they played together. IN MJ's second three peat, they had 2 all stars and they're only 7 time and a 2 time all star. And MJ didn't have good role players in his first 3 peat. He had good role players in his second one but not the first one. Sure he had 2 or 3 good players but the rest of the team was shit and those good players weren't all star caliber.
@@abelthegoat2471 lebron James missed the playoffs in his early years and with the other he missed it coz he was injured ,mj only played 14 seasons while lbj is playing his 17th ....even if u disagree on scottie pippen, u cant deny that he was a defensive genius and he was really compatible with mj ....lbj faced a lot better opponents like the spurs and the warriors ,so obviously he had to get some help and d wade is only guy ..... if mj had won at least 1 title without pippen it wouldn't be brought up.
All I'm gonna say is that LeBron's last year in Cleveland before he took his talents to south beach, the Cavaliers were 61-21. The following year without LeBron, the cavaliers dropped 42 GAMES and went 19-63!!! The Bulls record when MJ got his 3rd ring, they were 57-25. The following year without Jordan cause of 1st retirement, the Bulls dropped 2 GAMES and went 55-27 and went to the eastern semi finals and went 7 games with the Knicks and should've won that series. Cmon now....
John Abdallah let me break this down.. in 2010 when lebron left, he wasn’t the only piece of the puzzle that left. Cavs were trying to rebuild so they deliberately tanked to get a high draft pick. In the bulls case, Jordan left the team to his pupil, pippen. Pippen learned a lot from Jordan. Add new role players that he bulls pulled in. It’s more of a testament to how good Jordan built his team. Jordan literally built a team from nothing. Nobody was there when he arrived.
Tony K was added to the bulls after jordan left for the first time. Tony K finished 2nd to the dream team in the Olympics. Not a fair comparison . Jordan was never defeated after he started winning championships. Jordan's prime ...no one took the title from him . Lebron losing with the equivalent of having Reggie Miller , Ewing , and Isiah on his teams.
lebron surpass all the stats of jordan!!! lebron rank1 scorer of all time!! rings were done by team effort, MVP done by media votings!!! now , individually lebron got all the stats, from blocks, steals, rebounds , assists, and finally hes rank1 in scoring all time record!!!!open your eyes dudes!!! for me lebron is the greatest!!!
It's not about who has the most points it's about who has done more in the smallest amount of time, Lebron has been playing longer and he has accomplished less in more time, he is not even close to MJ, that ship has sailed. Mj is the GOAT
Daniel Ramirez couldn’t agree more but its a lot deeper to me. Jordan (although his tactics were at times unbearable) still could impact his teammates to maximize their potential in the biggest moments. He also understood how to allow the game to come to him and utilize the skill sets his teams possessed. He never demanded all the attention because his game did exactly that for him. He also understood that as long as each individual did their job on the floor things would be highly successful come crunch time which is why he is 6-0 in the Finals. Stats didn’t matter to him because he knew he could score 40-50 per night if he really wanted too but he wasn’t about padding his stats or shelves with individual accomplishments. He was very team oriented and that’s what ultimately makes him the undefeated, undisputed GOAT
After growing up watching MJ I have for years defended that Jordan is the GOAT. However after watching Lebron over and over lift his team I am convinced he will end his career as the GOAT. Not because he necessarily will have more rings or MVP's (which I think is a stupid argument), just in terms of talent, presence and overall skills (I think the points at 2:30 sum it up well).
tom d Lebron would average 50 PPG in Jordan’s era because he is so much physically stronger and could take the beating and then some. Imagine lebron with the hand check bring 6’8” 250 lbs and then being so athletic he would steer anyone he wanted.
@@ij9466 That makes no sense. He averages 27 in an era in which you can’t touch him, but you think he would average nearly double that in an era with more physical defense?
@@VeliThaDon yeah because he is forced to shoot outside… A lot more 3s now so Lebron has to shoot or give his team more 3s if they want to stay in the game. That’s why players like Ben Simmons who can get a bucket whenever inside but is becoming useless because he can’t hit a 3. Also Lebron would be playing smaller and way less athletic people. Jordan was probably the most athletic player at the time and won the dunk contest by a ft dunk when you have average players in the nba who can do that in today’s nba. Plus Lebron would be as strong as big that moves like a guard which no one in that league has ever seen up to that point. Like bill laimbeer was one of the most physical players of that era and was a center and Lebron weighs more than him and is a small forward.
Jordan shot more free throws in the 80s and 90s than anyone. He took the hits but he went to the line. Lebron goes down the lane repeatedly and only shoots 5 or 6 a game. Meanwhile Trae KD Harden MJ and others who play a perimeter oriented game shoot 10 or more a night. That’s a big deal considering Jordan averages 31 a game to Lebrons 27
Jordan was a great scorer and champion, but played with an incredible group. Pippen is a top 10 defender of all time and Rodman is an all time rebounder. Hell, Pippen was 55-27 when jordan left compared to a 57-55 in 93. Lebron is an all time great in pure dominance of the game.
+khael Swaggerboi Lebron's court vision shits all over Jordan's. Lebron is bigger, stronger, a better passer and a better rebounder. He also has a much higher field goal percentage. He also won chips for two different cities with different coaches and a different supporting casts. What did Jordan win without Phil Jackson and Scottie Pippen? NOTHING.
Dont forget that when MJ left his team, he left behind a team where he brought THREE STRAIGHT championships to. The experience, team chemistry, knowledge and skill would immensely increase, causing that Bulls to be that much of a better team even when MJ left.
idont care who you are .. ill just enjoy this moment that i watch our mj in this era period and were thankfull too to witness his greatness lj fans here
LeBron James is an all-time great player. But for a player to sit out for almost 2 yrs, return and lead a team to one of the best records ever and repeat a three peat on top of that...is a compelling argument to me to call MJ the greatest.
Factual statement..... and the Bulls actually played team basketball and not Jordan basketball. He understood the philosophy of team basketball once he matured as a player with the introduction of the triangle offense. After carrying the team from 84-90.... he begin to realize he didn’t have to do a lot to simply average 30 per game and still win comfortably because he could maximize his teammates crafts and allow them to contribute while implementing his on court pressure upon them to be prepared for playoff moments which they ALWAYS met the challenge and succeeded. That’s what makes Jordan the GOAT
@@trich-1041 Lebron went pro by choice. He could have went to college but Nike and the NBA clearly needed his services after Michael retired the second time. Cuz the league was suffering without a face to represent it
Jordan didn’t have to play the competition Lebron has to play in the finals so everyone has to stop bringing up 6 wins. Jordan had a better team. He had Scottie pippen, a hall of fame defender, Dennis Rodman, a tremendous rebounder, Jordan could kick it out to people like Steve Kerr, bj Armstrong, and grant, (not saying those three are great but their better than the players Lebron has to kick it out too.) who does Lebron have, Kevin Love? He hasnt done shit for the last few years. If Lebron left the cavs they wouldn’t even make the playoffs. When Jordan left the cavs to play baseball. They still won 57 games and almost went back to the finals and went to game 7 with the knicks. Lebrons court vision shits all over Jordan’s. Lebrons a better rebounder. And Lebron overall is a more effeciant player. When Lebron left to go to Miami, chris Bosh started to struggle. So it was basically Lebron and d wade and d wade was out there limping the whole time. He might have had 1 year as a superstar when Lebron was there. And I’m not saying mj isn’t great, he’s definetly 2, but these old heads can’t let go that someone is better then theor favorite player.
Jason Monto lebron has to face the spurs and they had crazy players and he had to face the golden state warriors (arguably the best team of all time because of all the superstars)
@@tastyflaminyan4295 lol gsw greatest team of all time? Lol Google 50 greatest players of all-time Google NBA top 20 All-time stat leaders (scoring, assists, rebounds, steals) Then go check how many of the played against Jordan Dumbass!
man people think lebron is better than jordan because hes called king james what thats suppose to mean jordan got 6 nba finals trophy and became mvp 6 times and look how much lebron got 3 and if u think lebron dunks are better because he jumps over everyone else...wtf look at all Air Jordan dunks in the past jordan haters if u think lebron dunks are still better than theres something wrong???
You're delusional if you believe Jordans dunks are better than LeGoats. look at the highlights, LeGoats dunks are much more entertaining. You have now convinced me that you are an idiot.When its all said and done, LeGoat will shit on Jordans legacy the same way I took a shit on your comment.
When Lebron was 27 -Ring Both MJ n Lebron was 28 - Ring MJ @ age 29 & 30 - Ring Lebron @ age 31 - Ring MJ @ age 33,34 - Ring Both MJ n Lebron was 35- Ring NO RINGS BOTH @ AGEs - 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 32, 36, 37, so far…. Two to go
jordan can finish by the rim like no other and he has a better jump shot and one last thing passed the ball so his teammates could take the blame when they get blown out in the finals
Only millennials think LeBron is better lol. Jordan got those "give me goosebump" highlights. You could tell he was out there with hella athleticism the way he had to be maneuvering and shit. Behind the back layups.... switching hands in mid air type shit. Ain't nobody got Jordan's finesse. LeBron do the same thing..... He either pop a J in your face, or he goes to the rim and people get out the way because of his frame. I'm not saying he ain't good because he obviously is, but he's definitely playing in a different, not so physical era. Jordan put in hard ass work out there on that court, and looked good while doing it!
Krissy Limon your an idiot and like 12 years old who never saw Jordan play Lebron is getting abused in the finals losing over 30 points in a championship game that would never happened with Jordan who would of easily scored 60 points against the Warriors if necessary.. Anything to win the game. A will to win unmatched which Lebron isnt even in the same stratosphere as MJ in those regards... Jordan is more skilled and everybody who knows basketball agrees.. While Lebron was more physically gifted.. Still Jordan was a one of a kind dude you'll never see again.. #GOAT
Krissy Limon What? Lebron has arguably his best supporting class in his whole career. He has Love and Kyrie.. Also JR Smith Tristian Thompson, Shumpert Channing Frye etc. And with the heat he had the best team in the NBA and choked in the 4th quarter for 4 consecutive games which never happened with Jordan.. And 2014 which he should of got the three peat but got beat in 5 games by the spurs.. Lebron does not have the heart MJ had nor the killer instinct.. Jordan was also a better scorer, better defender, better shooter, overall a more exciting player to watch while Lebron was the better passer and rebounder.. And Lebron did not average more steals a game than MJ. LEARN ABOUT THE GAME Jordan as an indvidual player is greater than Lebron. Lebron stats are better in some categories but overall Jordan triumphs they are both leaders but when it matters most when its crunch time Jordan closed the deal every time while Lebron struggled with religiously.. Jordan got the job done and has a true heart of the chsmpion.. Your an idiot for thinking Lebron is a better player than Jordan especially after last nights abomination.. Lebron gave up while Jordan would of never gave up as long as the game wasnt over Jordan put 100% effort in winning the game... Stop giving Lebron excuses he has a good team now championship worthy team and he needs to get the job done period
Can LBJ beat the greats jabbar magic, dexler,malone stockton duo..ewwing starks,miller,kemp payton of sonics,barkley,mouring,and the badboys of the and the other great 80-90 if he was playing in that era?
Jordan stuck with the Bulls. He didnt' need to go recruit or go to the Lakers, Boston, Detroit to win titles. I respect LeBron as a player, but MJ will always be ahead of him. Kobe is the only player to resemble MJ in terms of intensity, scoring, mentality, defense. LeBron is more like Magic, a big Guard who can pass it. LeBron can score, but I dont' know...he just doesn't have that shooters touch like MJ or Kobe.
Idgaf what y'all say Michael always will be the best at ball to ever live no question at all like this if u agree that he is the best let's see how many we get 🏀
Jcc Jcc no lebron is closer to magic.their stats are similar Magic had more assists, lebron is a better scorer. Mike slaughtered lebrons scoring average.
Only reason why this debate has begun is because the millenials never saw MJ play. LeBron is great but when he is compared to the best he falls short. Jordan never lost to JJ Berea and the Jet and got blown out and swept by an Ancient Spurs team in NBA record fashion in the finals. The mid 30's Celtics chased him out of town and went to Miami. That alone taints his claim on being the GOAT. Jordan is the oldest to win a championship and had a much harder road to the finals every year than Lebron. Look at this year Lebrons road has been the easiest and people give him credit for being in a Game 7 against 2 rookies, a bench PG ancient Al Horford and the 2 best players sidelined with injury. Give me a break.
I ask myself what hasn't James passed him in. Has him by Kilometers in Talent played , also stats & achievements. I can look at Steak vs a Hot pocket and tell you which one id rather have. Same fuckin thing when looking at 👑LJ vs Kobe or Jordan. NO COMPARISON..
The only reason Jordan doesn’t have ten or more rings is simply because he didn’t let his team mates have the ball his first few years. As soon as Jordan started using his teammates he won 6 times. And let’s not forget Jordan was only like 6.2 and James is what like a foot taller. That extra height makes James seem way better than he is imo.
it's funny that if MJ left his team they would still be in the playoffs but #LeClutchJames leave his team, we're talking about catastrophic events here.
Dont forget that when MJ left his team, he left behind a team where he brought THREE STRAIGHT championships to. The experience, team chemistry, knowledge and skill would immensely increase, causing that Bulls to be that much of a better team even when MJ left.
Will Donald its funny how lebron scores 8points total in a finals game while being the best player on the planet..finals games are jordans realm theres no way hes walking away from a finals game with a weak ass stat like that..lebron chokes catastropically on the highest level
Lebron James is better. Jordan played in a watered down league.. Never won shit in the 80s.. Three straight first round exits in the playoffs. Jordan started winning when the NBA started expanding in the 90s... Less concentrated talent. Sorry Bulls fans.
nba is soft nowadays but jordan played in tougher era in the 90's while lebron was in the weak east & always go to the finals...jordan > lebron sorry lebron fans
hehe and lebron fans look at how many times he lost the finals like to the spurs in 2012 and GS in 2015 thats suppose to be 5 finals trophy for him and look back at 2003 kobe was better than lebron in every way the reason yal call lebron king because of his dunks thats all.......that dont mean shit to me
The only thing that Jordan has over LeBron is defense, offense, Mvp's, finals mvp's, beat an entire league of legends to get his championships[ John Stockton and Malone twice, Barkley, Clyde the glide and the tough blazers , the Lakers, and let's not mention the Celtics, the STACKED TEAM of the BAD BOYS Detroit Pistols, the Sonics, plus he retired in his prime in addition to playing in college. in his shorter career he accomplished more than anyone today. SO LEBRON SHOULD FOCUS ON TRYING TO SURPASS KOBE FIRST BEFORE HE ATTEMPTS TO GET PAST JORDAN.
+Alejandro G Can he lead his team in points, rebounds, assists, and steals in a regular season, playoffs especially finals? Can he defend all positions?? Oooooppps, sorry... Is MJ better?? I think not..
+Krissy Limon In the 1984-85 season (MJ's rookie year for you youngsters that don't know sh!t), he lead the Bulls roster in points, rebounds, assist, steals, and was tied for blocks with two other teammates. He's also lead in those categories in the playoffs......for you youngsters that don't know sh!t!!!
+Tony Boots But did he make that consistent?? Ooooopps, sorry.... Can he defend more than LBJ??? Oooooppss, sorry again... Did he win a series in the playoffs before pippen?? Oowwww, 1?? Wow that's great... how many assist and rebounds he had back then?? 5.9 assist?? 6.5 rebounds?? That's not an all around player... Lol just sayin
+Krissy Limon Yes, he did do it multiple times.....for those of you (Krissy) that don't know shit. And yes, he was a better defender than LeBron as well. The only reason LeBron can guard all five positions is because of his size, has nothing to do with skill. As for not winning a series without Scottie, I've already responded to that, try to keep up. It's pretty comical that you say things, and ask if MJ's done it because he has, and it shows just how little you know. And then when you look like an idiot, you just ramble on spouting the same, stupid shit. Has LeBron ever had a season getting at least 200+steals & 100+blocks? I know you don't know, so I'll save you the trouble of looking....the answer is NO, he hasn't. Only 3 players have done that, Hakeem Olajuwon, Scottie Pippen, and MJ. Hakeem, and Scottie did it once....MJ, twice........LeBron...NONE! MJ won defensive player of the year.....has LeBron?.....NO! MJ was a steals leader 3 times.....LeBron?....NONE! You're an idiot!
You guys talk shit, but Lebron ain't done yet. He's gonna be remembered as the guy able to beat the best team since Jordan era bulls. No hate on Jordan but lebron deserves to be mentioned at least
you can't compare Jordan to James Michael is a God in basketball
Matolino that god got beat in the first round plenty of times until he got pippen😂
@@hectormorales8404 Where did Pippen come from and when did he become an All-Star? And who beat Jordan in the playoffs? Yeah, stop watching basketball Morales.
@@hectormorales8404 and lebum got beatem by Jason Terry even when he got Wade and Bosh.
It's simple ...
THE NIGHT LEBRON JAMES BROKED THE JORDAN POINTS RECORDS ... HE DID IT WITH NEAR 1,300 LESS SHOTS than jordan (point for lebron, proof of having a better percentage of effectiveness)
LEBRON, - also-ALREADY AT THAT TIME HAD MORE REBOUNDS THAT JORDAN .... (another item in superiority of lebron)
AND IF IT WAS A LITTLE, HE ALSO HAD MUCH MORE ASSISTANCE THAN JORDAN, (another area of superiority of lebron) and not to mention, many MORE BLOCKS
... Whoever says that Jordan is better lebron is as absurd as doubting the only exact science that is mathematics ...
It is acceptable that someone for personal taste, style say that he likes Jordan the most, -in fact is my case- ..... but that I say that it is better should be taken only as an emotion, because the facts do not support it! Objectivity tells us that LEBRON is the most complete and greatest of all time.
@@pianomusic9699 lol 😂😂 are you serious?? MJ is a 6-0 in the finals, 10 scoring titles, 6 finals mvps , 5mvps, 2-time dunk contest champion with only 14 seasons and never going to another team 😅😂😅 Lebron is nowhere near to MJ 😂😅
LeBron is a monster but, MJ is the G.O.A.T simple as that
Bryan Martinez THERE'S A NEW GOAT COMING AND HIS NAME IS LONZO BALL
Stfu dumbassSECURITY OFFICER TRAINING CHANNEL
Emanuel Alvarez hell no
Kinda cool to be the 23rd like of this comment...m.j.#1
@@e.a9531 I hope this is sarcasm
MJ (God,G.O.A.T) Lebron(Angel). There is a difference between Angel and God
@Obito xshinobi mj had the better coach and players thats y he didn't leave...... and kobe was not even the best player in 3 of his 5 championships ,it was shaq
@@bamboozled939 MJ had 0 all-stars for the begging of his career. Same did LBJ. But LBJ decided to leave and go make a super team but MJ stayed and 3 peated with just one other all-star on his team. MJ also didn't even have an all-star on his team on the bulls won their first ring. LBJ always had at least 2 all-star when he won cham[ionships but MJ could do it with 0.
@@abelthegoat2471 lbj went to the finals in 2007 without any stars as mj didn't even past the 1st round without pippen ....mj by 1988 or 1990 had prrfect coach ,a developed pippen, and good role players so u cant just say with one allstar, there was no need to leave....after mj 1st retirement his bulls team even reached conference finals without mj
@@bamboozled939 MJ never missed the playoffs with 0 help while LBJ didn't even make it 2 times. And stop overrating pippen cause he's only a 7 time all star ut of his 16 year career he was never good as everyone says just watch him play. And Bulls reached the conference finals because they drafted players like Kukoc and Kerr and they traded for other players and their role players actually stood up as well. That was the year that the Bulls team really hit their prime. And sure MJ had the best coach of all time but LBJ had a top 30 player of all time who's a 13 time all star and he had Chris bosh, Shaq and Allen they only won 2 rings out of their 4 years they played together. IN MJ's second three peat, they had 2 all stars and they're only 7 time and a 2 time all star. And MJ didn't have good role players in his first 3 peat. He had good role players in his second one but not the first one. Sure he had 2 or 3 good players but the rest of the team was shit and those good players weren't all star caliber.
@@abelthegoat2471 lebron James missed the playoffs in his early years and with the other he missed it coz he was injured ,mj only played 14 seasons while lbj is playing his 17th ....even if u disagree on scottie pippen, u cant deny that he was a defensive genius and he was really compatible with mj ....lbj faced a lot better opponents like the spurs and the warriors ,so obviously he had to get some help and d wade is only guy ..... if mj had won at least 1 title without pippen it wouldn't be brought up.
You Cant Compare James with Jordan, Jordan its Jordan man
All I'm gonna say is that LeBron's last year in Cleveland before he took his talents to south beach, the Cavaliers were 61-21. The following year without LeBron, the cavaliers dropped 42 GAMES and went 19-63!!! The Bulls record when MJ got his 3rd ring, they were 57-25. The following year without Jordan cause of 1st retirement, the Bulls dropped 2 GAMES and went 55-27 and went to the eastern semi finals and went 7 games with the Knicks and should've won that series. Cmon now....
John Abdallah let me break this down.. in 2010 when lebron left, he wasn’t the only piece of the puzzle that left. Cavs were trying to rebuild so they deliberately tanked to get a high draft pick. In the bulls case, Jordan left the team to his pupil, pippen. Pippen learned a lot from Jordan. Add new role players that he bulls pulled in. It’s more of a testament to how good Jordan built his team. Jordan literally built a team from nothing. Nobody was there when he arrived.
Cupcake era vs Jordan era.
Tony K was added to the bulls after jordan left for the first time. Tony K finished 2nd to the dream team in the Olympics. Not a fair comparison . Jordan was never defeated after he started winning championships. Jordan's prime ...no one took the title from him . Lebron losing with the equivalent of having Reggie Miller , Ewing , and Isiah on his teams.
Jordan career stats: 30ppg6rpg5apg
Lebron career stats: 27ppg7rpg7apg
Jordan: 5 mvps 10 scoring titles 1 dpoy
Lebron: 4 mvps 1 scoring title no dpoy
Jordan finals record: 6-0
Lebron finals record: 3-6
Numbers don't lie!
And the list keeps going
And lebron’s not done
Wrong stats
Difference between MJ and Lebron is, Lebron needs to control the game and other players need to control MJ.
In 2020? Jordan is still the GOAT!
MJ will always the best❤
Michael jordan always
Michael Jordan has 10 scoring titles in only 11 seasons with the bullls yes only 11. Lebron 1 scoring title in 15 seasons I rest my case
Lebron is about to pass Kareem in scoring while passing magic in assists. Those 10 scoring titles can go in the trash
No ones better than Michael, or compares
lebron surpass all the stats of jordan!!! lebron rank1 scorer of all time!! rings were done by team effort, MVP done by media votings!!! now , individually lebron got all the stats, from blocks, steals, rebounds , assists, and finally hes rank1 in scoring all time record!!!!open your eyes dudes!!! for me lebron is the greatest!!!
It's not about who has the most points it's about who has done more in the smallest amount of time, Lebron has been playing longer and he has accomplished less in more time, he is not even close to MJ, that ship has sailed. Mj is the GOAT
Daniel Ramirez couldn’t agree more but its a lot deeper to me. Jordan (although his tactics were at times unbearable) still could impact his teammates to maximize their potential in the biggest moments. He also understood how to allow the game to come to him and utilize the skill sets his teams possessed. He never demanded all the attention because his game did exactly that for him. He also understood that as long as each individual did their job on the floor things would be highly successful come crunch time which is why he is 6-0 in the Finals. Stats didn’t matter to him because he knew he could score 40-50 per night if he really wanted too but he wasn’t about padding his stats or shelves with individual accomplishments. He was very team oriented and that’s what ultimately makes him the undefeated, undisputed GOAT
Jordan scoring average in playoffs is number one over everyone included lechoke.
James is far better than jordan
After growing up watching MJ I have for years defended that Jordan is the GOAT. However after watching Lebron over and over lift his team I am convinced he will end his career as the GOAT. Not because he necessarily will have more rings or MVP's (which I think is a stupid argument), just in terms of talent, presence and overall skills (I think the points at 2:30 sum it up well).
Agreed👌
nope
Hey what was that music starting by at 2:22? I really enjoyed it. I’ve heard it in other videos but no one tags it! Please lmk!!!
Ezio's Family XD
Michael a lot better then lebron
Jordan three peated twice. I’m 50 years old and the eye test speak for itself. No comparison. Michael is better period
I got goosebumps watching this Jordan and LeBron are elite athletes. What if will?? That will always be the question...we will never know.
LeBron is the goat
What's the name of the second instrumental?
Jordan would average 47 pg in today’s NBA
tom d Lebron would average 50 PPG in Jordan’s era because he is so much physically stronger and could take the beating and then some. Imagine lebron with the hand check bring 6’8” 250 lbs and then being so athletic he would steer anyone he wanted.
@@ij9466 That makes no sense. He averages 27 in an era in which you can’t touch him, but you think he would average nearly double that in an era with more physical defense?
@@VeliThaDon yeah because he is forced to shoot outside… A lot more 3s now so Lebron has to shoot or give his team more 3s if they want to stay in the game. That’s why players like Ben Simmons who can get a bucket whenever inside but is becoming useless because he can’t hit a 3. Also Lebron would be playing smaller and way less athletic people. Jordan was probably the most athletic player at the time and won the dunk contest by a ft dunk when you have average players in the nba who can do that in today’s nba. Plus Lebron would be as strong as big that moves like a guard which no one in that league has ever seen up to that point. Like bill laimbeer was one of the most physical players of that era and was a center and Lebron weighs more than him and is a small forward.
Jordan shot more free throws in the 80s and 90s than anyone. He took the hits but he went to the line. Lebron goes down the lane repeatedly and only shoots 5 or 6 a game. Meanwhile Trae KD Harden MJ and others who play a perimeter oriented game shoot 10 or more a night. That’s a big deal considering Jordan averages 31 a game to Lebrons 27
Flop + strength + travel= LeBron James skill + hardwork + strength + confedence + perservence = MJ 🏀
jordan!
No contest Jordan’s better.
Jordan was a great scorer and champion, but played with an incredible group. Pippen is a top 10 defender of all time and Rodman is an all time rebounder. Hell, Pippen was 55-27 when jordan left compared to a 57-55 in 93. Lebron is an all time great in pure dominance of the game.
Yes. In an era so soft that MJ would've averaged 50ppg! lol
+khael Swaggerboi yeah sure.. Keep dreaming.
I guess you have to tell that to yourself. Keep dreaming that LeFlop will be greater than MJ. It's ok. We understand.
+khael Swaggerboi Lebron's court vision shits all over Jordan's. Lebron is bigger, stronger, a better passer and a better rebounder. He also has a much higher field goal percentage. He also won chips for two different cities with different coaches and a different supporting casts. What did Jordan win without Phil Jackson and Scottie Pippen? NOTHING.
Dont forget that when MJ left his team, he left behind a team where he brought THREE STRAIGHT championships to. The experience, team chemistry, knowledge and skill would immensely increase, causing that Bulls to be that much of a better team even when MJ left.
michael jordan the legend!!!! best player of all time!!! MJ you are the best!!!! :D :D :D....thank you.
Krissy Limon no you are
with no other context, who would you want leading your team if it game 7 of the finals, early in the 4th quarter, away game with your team down by 20?
Mj
@@tremendousdimetime9649 bingo
MJ won't let it go to game 7 tho. Lol
M.J.!
Jordan by far is better.
Manuel Avila I’m sorry but your mum is actually the best at reverse cow girl
Facts Michael Jordan is better
& 2:06 what song ?
What’s the instrumental?
Name of first song?
Michael Jordan the greatest i ever seen
Jordan is better but lebron is right there
idont care who you are .. ill just enjoy this moment that i watch our mj in this era period and were thankfull too to witness his greatness
lj fans here
LeBron James is better than Michael Jordan
Keep dreaming
Yainel Galvez I agree
what We are seeing LeBron James try to develop Michael Jordan had it In him since day one
LeBron James is an all-time great player. But for a player to sit out for almost 2 yrs, return and lead a team to one of the best records ever and repeat a three peat on top of that...is a compelling argument to me to call MJ the greatest.
Yes because Jordan had the chance to develop and mature in college. Lebron came straight out of high , was still a kid .
Factual statement..... and the Bulls actually played team basketball and not Jordan basketball. He understood the philosophy of team basketball once he matured as a player with the introduction of the triangle offense. After carrying the team from 84-90.... he begin to realize he didn’t have to do a lot to simply average 30 per game and still win comfortably because he could maximize his teammates crafts and allow them to contribute while implementing his on court pressure upon them to be prepared for playoff moments which they ALWAYS met the challenge and succeeded. That’s what makes Jordan the GOAT
@@trich-1041 Lebron went pro by choice. He could have went to college but Nike and the NBA clearly needed his services after Michael retired the second time. Cuz the league was suffering without a face to represent it
Jordan didn’t have to play the competition Lebron has to play in the finals so everyone has to stop bringing up 6 wins. Jordan had a better team. He had Scottie pippen, a hall of fame defender, Dennis Rodman, a tremendous rebounder, Jordan could kick it out to people like Steve Kerr, bj Armstrong, and grant, (not saying those three are great but their better than the players Lebron has to kick it out too.) who does Lebron have, Kevin Love? He hasnt done shit for the last few years. If Lebron left the cavs they wouldn’t even make the playoffs. When Jordan left the cavs to play baseball. They still won 57 games and almost went back to the finals and went to game 7 with the knicks. Lebrons court vision shits all over Jordan’s. Lebrons a better rebounder. And Lebron overall is a more effeciant player. When Lebron left to go to Miami, chris Bosh started to struggle. So it was basically Lebron and d wade and d wade was out there limping the whole time. He might have had 1 year as a superstar when Lebron was there. And I’m not saying mj isn’t great, he’s definetly 2, but these old heads can’t let go that someone is better then theor favorite player.
Jason Monto lebron has to face the spurs and they had crazy players and he had to face the golden state warriors (arguably the best team of all time because of all the superstars)
Tf?
@@tastyflaminyan4295 lol gsw greatest team of all time? Lol
Google 50 greatest players of all-time
Google NBA top 20 All-time stat leaders (scoring, assists, rebounds, steals)
Then go check how many of the played against Jordan
Dumbass!
arguably* dumass
man people think lebron is better than jordan because hes called king james what thats suppose to mean jordan got 6 nba finals trophy and became mvp 6 times and look how much lebron got 3 and if u think lebron dunks are better because he jumps over everyone else...wtf look at all Air Jordan dunks in the past jordan haters if u think lebron dunks are still better than theres something wrong???
Lmfao casual
You're delusional if you believe Jordans dunks are better than LeGoats. look at the highlights, LeGoats dunks are much more entertaining. You have now convinced me that you are an idiot.When its all said and done, LeGoat will shit on Jordans legacy the same way I took a shit on your comment.
Love it!
They have a different generation.........
Lebron best player ok by done going to bed
whats the song name??
Ezio family
Jordan had the heart since he got cut from highschool basketball team
no idiot he failed to make varsity as a soft more he made JV at 5 foot 11 inches
2:39 what song?
It's like watching a super hero
Noone will ever compare to Mike
Jordan really could have won 8 straight if he didn't take time off fr! GOAT
Bryana Coleman he left because of gambling- his fault so that affects him
@@tastyflaminyan4295 no he didn’t
Kobe Second Best After Mike !PERIOD!💯
When Lebron was 27 -Ring
Both MJ n Lebron was 28 - Ring
MJ @ age 29 & 30 - Ring
Lebron @ age 31 - Ring
MJ @ age 33,34 - Ring
Both MJ n Lebron was 35- Ring
NO RINGS
BOTH @ AGEs - 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 32, 36, 37, so far…. Two to go
jordan can finish by the rim like no other and he has a better jump shot and one last thing passed the ball so his teammates could take the blame when they get blown out in the finals
Jordan never lost in the finals 6-0
lebron>jordan
Michael Jordan will destroy lebron easy
Lebron dont drop 45 against celtics on a "super team" they lose ! Rewatch those highlights!
lol nigga lebron beat the celtics superteam with pierce, KG, allen and rondo lmaoooooooooo.
+David James thats what i said
David James there won’t even a super team after they lost to lakers they got bad
mj
Only millennials think LeBron is better lol. Jordan got those "give me goosebump" highlights. You could tell he was out there with hella athleticism the way he had to be maneuvering and shit. Behind the back layups.... switching hands in mid air type shit. Ain't nobody got Jordan's finesse. LeBron do the same thing..... He either pop a J in your face, or he goes to the rim and people get out the way because of his frame. I'm not saying he ain't good because he obviously is, but he's definitely playing in a different, not so physical era. Jordan put in hard ass work out there on that court, and looked good while doing it!
yes, the truth
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Michael Jordan Vs Lebron James - Who's Better? Ohhh is this a Question?Michel is the N.1.!!!
micheal jordans got way better skills than lebron
Agree
+Krissy Limon nah its facts!!!
+DATNIGGAMINK Nope.... Don't be dumb
Krissy Limon your an idiot and like 12 years old who never saw Jordan play Lebron is getting abused in the finals losing over 30 points in a championship game that would never happened with Jordan who would of easily scored 60 points against the Warriors if necessary.. Anything to win the game. A will to win unmatched which Lebron isnt even in the same stratosphere as MJ in those regards... Jordan is more skilled and everybody who knows basketball agrees.. While Lebron was more physically gifted.. Still Jordan was a one of a kind dude you'll never see again.. #GOAT
Krissy Limon What? Lebron has arguably his best supporting class in his whole career. He has Love and Kyrie.. Also JR Smith Tristian Thompson, Shumpert Channing Frye etc. And with the heat he had the best team in the NBA and choked in the 4th quarter for 4 consecutive games which never happened with Jordan.. And 2014 which he should of got the three peat but got beat in 5 games by the spurs.. Lebron does not have the heart MJ had nor the killer instinct.. Jordan was also a better scorer, better defender, better shooter, overall a more exciting player to watch while Lebron was the better passer and rebounder.. And Lebron did not average more steals a game than MJ. LEARN ABOUT THE GAME Jordan as an indvidual player is greater than Lebron. Lebron stats are better in some categories but overall Jordan triumphs they are both leaders but when it matters most when its crunch time Jordan closed the deal every time while Lebron struggled with religiously.. Jordan got the job done and has a true heart of the chsmpion.. Your an idiot for thinking Lebron is a better player than Jordan especially after last nights abomination.. Lebron gave up while Jordan would of never gave up as long as the game wasnt over Jordan put 100% effort in winning the game... Stop giving Lebron excuses he has a good team now championship worthy team and he needs to get the job done period
Can LBJ beat the greats jabbar magic, dexler,malone stockton duo..ewwing starks,miller,kemp payton of sonics,barkley,mouring,and the badboys of the and the other great 80-90 if he was playing in that era?
Jordan stuck with the Bulls. He didnt' need to go recruit or go to the Lakers, Boston, Detroit to win titles. I respect LeBron as a player, but MJ will always be ahead of him. Kobe is the only player to resemble MJ in terms of intensity, scoring, mentality, defense. LeBron is more like Magic, a big Guard who can pass it. LeBron can score, but I dont' know...he just doesn't have that shooters touch like MJ or Kobe.
Idgaf what y'all say Michael always will be the best at ball to ever live no question at all like this if u agree that he is the best let's see how many we get 🏀
Jordan better but LeBron is nearly equal to him in the numbers he puts up
Jcc Jcc no lebron is closer to magic.their stats are similar Magic had more assists, lebron is a better scorer. Mike slaughtered lebrons scoring average.
Nearly equalonly on stats but not on accomplishments
OF COURSE
MJ 🐐 🏀
Only reason why this debate has begun is because the millenials never saw MJ play. LeBron is great but when he is compared to the best he falls short. Jordan never lost to JJ Berea and the Jet and got blown out and swept by an Ancient Spurs team in NBA record fashion in the finals. The mid 30's Celtics chased him out of town and went to Miami. That alone taints his claim on being the GOAT. Jordan is the oldest to win a championship and had a much harder road to the finals every year than Lebron. Look at this year Lebrons road has been the easiest and people give him credit for being in a Game 7 against 2 rookies, a bench PG ancient Al Horford and the 2 best players sidelined with injury. Give me a break.
Tom Lambropoulos Jordan couldn’t do what lebron did this season...
Lebron shits all over Jordan
Liam Traianon LeBron now has as many finals losses as Jordan has wins. LOL
Liam Traianon your right he would have won !! Lol
Liam Traianon he lost to JJ Berea he is not even better than Bird. Bird was a 3X MVP. Won three in a row and averaged 24ppg 10 reb and 6 assists.
I ask myself what hasn't James passed him in. Has him by Kilometers in Talent played , also stats & achievements. I can look at Steak vs a Hot pocket and tell you which one id rather have. Same fuckin thing when looking at 👑LJ vs Kobe or Jordan. NO COMPARISON..
Jordan is incomparable
It's 2024 and Lebron is still going strong.
Here is the answer"Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the greatest player of all time his accomplishments speak for themselves.
No
Lebron will sit this one out.
The only reason Jordan doesn’t have ten or more rings is simply because he didn’t let his team mates have the ball his first few years. As soon as Jordan started using his teammates he won 6 times. And let’s not forget Jordan was only like 6.2 and James is what like a foot taller. That extra height makes James seem way better than he is imo.
Jordan 6' 6''
LeBron is only 2 inches taller
Lebron
LeBron is better
Diferent style, diferents times.......
Jordan
MICAHEL JORDAN IS BETTER
Lebron is better
it's funny that if MJ left his team they would still be in the playoffs but #LeClutchJames leave his team, we're talking about catastrophic events here.
Dont forget that when MJ left his team, he left behind a team where he brought THREE STRAIGHT championships to. The experience, team chemistry, knowledge and skill would immensely increase, causing that Bulls to be that much of a better team even when MJ left.
I can also go statistical and talk about win shares for both their supporting casts of you want
Will Donald ur wrong mj made thise around him so much better
Will Donald its funny how lebron scores 8points total in a finals game while being the best player on the planet..finals games are jordans realm theres no way hes walking away from a finals game with a weak ass stat like that..lebron chokes catastropically on the highest level
This current cavs team would be good without lebron. Probably second best or still the best in the east
BRO THATS MY VIDEO
In 2023? LJ6💜
Michael Jordan
All those tats didn't seem to help Lebra!
M.J
Lebron James is better. Jordan played in a watered down league.. Never won shit in the 80s.. Three straight first round exits in the playoffs. Jordan started winning when the NBA started expanding in the 90s... Less concentrated talent. Sorry Bulls fans.
nba is soft nowadays but jordan played in tougher era in the 90's while lebron was in the weak east & always go to the finals...jordan > lebron
sorry lebron fans
+Ian Smith how come Jordan never won anything in the 80s? All he did was lose to Detroit.
LeBron is great, an all time great, and the greatest today.....but MJ was better!
hehe and lebron fans look at how many times he lost the finals like to the spurs in 2012 and GS in 2015 thats suppose to be 5 finals trophy for him and look back at 2003 kobe was better than lebron in every way the reason yal call lebron king because of his dunks thats all.......that dont mean shit to me
TAKE IT DOWN ASAP OR IM GOING TO REPORT YOU
Michael Jordan is not the best forever for MANY GENERATIONS OF BASKETBALL TO COME.
Oh trust me, he is the best, forever.
Ohh Trust me he will never be forgotten and his going to be the greatest NBA Player of all time.
+Mr King Dabble. Ruedy How do you know if thats a fact??
+Aaron LawBryant Lebron is better
Boi, I'm on you're ass, LeBron himself said he is STILL chasing the Goat.
It ain’t no slight on Lebron to be the 2nd best player ever
BLASPHEMY, Wilt was the greatest individual player, and Bill Russell is the greatest winner, Bill Russell has more Rings than all of them.
Wilt also played in a league when most guys were 4 feet smaller than him and white 😂 today's game Wilt would get smacked
Your guys played with 9 teams nba lol
The only thing that Jordan has over LeBron is defense, offense, Mvp's, finals mvp's, beat an entire league of legends to get his championships[ John Stockton and Malone twice, Barkley, Clyde the glide and the tough blazers , the Lakers, and let's not mention the Celtics, the STACKED TEAM of the BAD BOYS Detroit Pistols, the Sonics, plus he retired in his prime in addition to playing in college. in his shorter career he accomplished more than anyone today. SO LEBRON SHOULD FOCUS ON TRYING TO SURPASS KOBE FIRST BEFORE HE ATTEMPTS TO GET PAST JORDAN.
mj can stop him
lebron is better
3-4 6-0 mj goat and the way he ended his 6th title fairy tail nt to mention mj has a smother game.
Anaru Nikora how about 3-6 now...
@@suppaman12 4-7.
@@xuryor91 and it’s staying 4-7 cus he’s not going to the finals this year... if he does it’s going 4-8
jordan
Lebron is best in the nba
noteven close
+Alejandro G Can he lead his team in points, rebounds, assists, and steals in a regular season, playoffs especially finals? Can he defend all positions?? Oooooppps, sorry... Is MJ better?? I think not..
+Krissy Limon
In the 1984-85 season (MJ's rookie year for you youngsters that don't know sh!t), he lead the Bulls roster in points, rebounds, assist, steals, and was tied for blocks with two other teammates. He's also lead in those categories in the playoffs......for you youngsters that don't know sh!t!!!
+Tony Boots But did he make that consistent?? Ooooopps, sorry.... Can he defend more than LBJ??? Oooooppss, sorry again... Did he win a series in the playoffs before pippen?? Oowwww, 1?? Wow that's great... how many assist and rebounds he had back then?? 5.9 assist?? 6.5 rebounds?? That's not an all around player... Lol just sayin
+Krissy Limon
Yes, he did do it multiple times.....for those of you (Krissy) that don't know shit. And yes, he was a better defender than LeBron as well. The only reason LeBron can guard all five positions is because of his size, has nothing to do with skill. As for not winning a series without Scottie, I've already responded to that, try to keep up. It's pretty comical that you say things, and ask if MJ's done it because he has, and it shows just how little you know. And then when you look like an idiot, you just ramble on spouting the same, stupid shit.
Has LeBron ever had a season getting at least 200+steals & 100+blocks? I know you don't know, so I'll save you the trouble of looking....the answer is NO, he hasn't. Only 3 players have done that, Hakeem Olajuwon, Scottie Pippen, and MJ. Hakeem, and Scottie did it once....MJ, twice........LeBron...NONE! MJ won defensive player of the year.....has LeBron?.....NO! MJ was a steals leader 3 times.....LeBron?....NONE!
You're an idiot!
Romeo
jordan dunked from the freethrow line
Lebron dunked from the freethrow line in game
So lebron has better dunks
+Elaine Mcclure Absolutely. He can slam anything he wants and with a lot more power
You guys talk shit, but Lebron ain't done yet. He's gonna be remembered as the guy able to beat the best team since Jordan era bulls. No hate on Jordan but lebron deserves to be mentioned at least
Luke Booth and lose to him twice as well. MJ never let a team have a 7th game on him in the finals
LeBron better
Thank you!!
Lebron is so much better
fuck u nigga Michael so much better
I'm talkin bout fact biotch so fuck off lonney jones
LeBron way better
Michael Jordan is better
Ummmmm.... I think Kobe Bryant