Pregnant Mom Shot to Death by Biker After Road Rage Incident
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- čas přidán 15. 02. 2022
- The mother of a pregnant librarian who was shot and killed in a shootout with bikers following a road rage incident in Florida told Inside Edition she’s heartbroken that no one has been charged in her daughter’s death. The incident on that late November day that led to the expectant mother’s death began when police said Sara Morales intentionally bumped into a biker with her car. She then called 911, telling the operator that three men on motorcycles were chasing her.
She hit the biker intentionally, left the scene of an accident, then pulled out a gun to intimidate the biker, all while being a parent AND pregnant. This is a tragic story that had multiple chances to be de escalated, from all involved.
Correct me if wrong but couldn't the biker have got her license plate from the vehicle and turned her information over to the police????
@ML Gamer that doesn't answer my question.
@ML Gamer who tf asked
@@Jay-qy6jr he definitely should have
The situation could have been prevented
@@sup_monica3597 I don't have sympathy for her, she was calous and selfish woulda raised the baby to be the same
When not controlling your emotions goes horribly wrong
I learned that from Ghost of Tsushima.
"Live long and prosper" - Spock, was a person who could fully control his emotions.
Iunno if her pregnancy affected her decisions and emotions but she escalated everything in the wrong path… hit and run.. pulling out a gun.. and pointing it at them.
Exactly, that biker let his ego take control and followed the woman home and what's worse he had to shoot first instead of taking cover and realizing it's a mom just being scared. You can tell the biker was too trigger happy and wanted an excuse to shoot. It sucks because both sides did something wrong but one lost a life while the other gets away scott free.
@@SoftPico920 he has to protect himself for sure. That doesn't make it any easier. It's tough the way it played out. This is going to be in the news for awhile
Describing her "Pregnant" and "A Librarian" makes her seem innocent and "Biker" as the bad guy. She lost control of her emotions and paid the price.
The biker WAS the bad guy as he stalked her home while armed without having police authority to do so. How can you call someone retreating the person who "lost control of her emotions"? It's the guy breaking Florida law by trying to chase someone down to retaliate that lost control of his emotions. He did to Morales what Hannah Payne did to Kenneth Herring, and the only reason he wasn't charged was because his victim was Latina and not around to tell her side of the story. But I guarantee that if Derr had chased down a sister like this, it would be life imprisonment with the D.A. not hesitating to prosecute
@arturocamaney9235 Jesus your a Stupid person
@arturocamaney9235 I guess you missed the part about hit n run beta. Sometimes you have to handle your own business
@@arturocamaney9235the biker WASN'T THE BAD guy, use your brain simp
@@arturocamaney9235she committed a violent felony on the bikers. Civilians can chase after her in that case and when she decided to turn it deadly he was legally within his right to fire on her. There is no duty to retreat in Florida.
Moral of the story: never intentionally hit other drivers and definitely, never bring out a gun to make a point.
And never follow people to their home?
She never intentionally hit anyone, try again. He didn't even fall off his bicycle. And HE was the one who brandished his firearm firsrt while following her to her home. She had every right to defend herself
@@truthspeaker7553
Many reports stated SHE INTENTIONALLY hit the biker (hitting a bike doesn't always knock it down) then, according other witnesses, she POINTED FIRST her fiancèe's gun at the bikers.
Actually, this is legit defense from the bikers.
As soon as you raise your firearm to someone, you automatically become a legal target.
Try again bro.
@@oliviero46 The "reports" come from the guy's friends who posed as "witnesses," it's not legitimate testimony. And in any case, they vitiated their self-defense claim since they became the aggressors by following her TO her home instead of waiting for law enforcement to deal with her
@@kenplsthe biker didn't die did he
You can't tell someone "leave me alone" after assaulting them with your vehicle, then assault them with a gun to try and fix it. This lady was dangerous
Liberals can. If you can’t breathe then police should let you go.
all while pregnant too
It sounds like biker guys that were not involved got involved that’s what the problem sounds like to me…
If they follow you to your house with bad intentions, yes you do have the right to use a gun to defend yourself.
@@arthurias7693 she could have stayed inside her house until police arrive
The woman escalated it. She should’ve went inside and locked the door. If they broke in, that’s when you hit them with a surprise other then that, she made a fatal mistake. It’s sad all around.
@Savetion (GODLY CONTENT) Edgy kid alert
This is super funny 😂
It’s a bit don’t give them attention
@Savetion (GODLY CONTENT) wtf wrong with u
@@resilientultimate6869 dark
Her medical report stated there was no pregnancy found at the time of autopsy, her mother was the one claiming she was 5 months pregnant.
Maybe a link of some sort...
What verification do you have of this?
@@Texas_Toast666 So it's not hard to give a link, he's the one stating it so should show some evidence.
@@Texas_Toast666anyone can makes claims so they should state their source to back up it up, its not our job to prove what they say is true, maybe not for free if i am a lawyer
@@bugsymalone5744CZcams disabled links at the end of 2023. Know wtf you're talking about before you open your trap
Why would you go back outside after you’ve been followed home, that’s insane !
They’re both idiots
They weren't even on her property, they were in the road at the end of her driveway. Not pursuing, waiting on police to charge her with vehicular assault.
It’s called entitlement. She tried to kill the biker by swerving into him twice, then thought to herself, the audacity of them to follow me home and not just count their blessing after I tried to kill him twice. Now I’ll really show him. 🤦 It’s sad but she was out of control in this situation. 100% her fault.
@@oforimensah4711 that’s quite the narrative you’ve created in your head.
I can imagine those exact words being in her thoughts. @@macmiller1678
She hit a person with her car and ran. Then later pointed a gun at someone. Why is anyone surprised she got shot? The situation is sad but come on. You can’t go around hitting people with your car and then pointing a gun at them. Don’t blame the bikers one bit. Clear self defense
THANK YOU!!! did she hit them twice? Or did I hear that wrong?
That’s just Darwinism at that point. Like I could use my glider and obliterate you but that’d be stupid and I’d expose myself
Yup
The bikers shouldn't been agrresive but the mom also should have not threaten them with a gun she should have stayed in the house until the police get's there to solve the issue
Oh well
Never assume that pointing a gun at someone will make the situation better, dont point your gun at who you dont intend to kill. Almost everyone there is to blame for her death including her.
Don’t go onto someone’s property after following them and then claim self defense….Shouldn’t have been on her property and that’s why you aim your gun at trespassers.
end results of feminism
@@UHHUMovements510 should've drove carefully
You put it in the right way I agree with you..
@@UHHUMovements510 dude she hit the biker and sped off what do you expect someone to do let it go ? If someone hit me I'm following you home getting your license plate and calling the cops
She wasn’t pregnant. The Autopsy said she wasn’t pregnant. She also hit the bike first, fled the scene, then pulled her gun first.
But she was in her own home and had every right to arm herself if some random guy is threatening her
Yeah the biker had a right to follow her because of the damage from getting hit.
@@fluffydiamondcat2875 The biker had a right to follow her because she didn't pull over after she hit his bike and caused damage. She didn't want to be responsible and pointed her gun at him instead of exchanging info like a responsible person when you cause damage. It was a hit and run.
@@fluffydiamondcat2875the guy that killed her apparently also had the right to defend himself. She’s dead and he’s free to live his life.
@@fluffydiamondcat2875 she wasn't defending she was attacking after she committed a crime
When playing the victim goes one step too far!
Or when retaliating over a fender-bender goes one step too far, which is what the biker did. He had to essentially defame his victim in order to save himself; the precedent set by the George Zimmerman case where the burden of proof shifts to the D.A. in terms of proving the use of a firearm was unlawful also helped, but let's not pretend as if the biker was innocent in this
@@arturocamaney9235 Wrong. She purposely swerved and hit him, then took off. He followed her to get her information for the police. She came out with the firearm. He didn’t pull on her first! She should have stayed in the house and waited on the police. She’d still be alive. You don’t ever point a firearm at anyone unless you’re prepared to use it. You don’t just point it to use as a threat! The second she pointed it at him, he had the immediate right and need to protect himself by pulling his own and firing first.
@@rochellestone6865 Correct
@@rochellestone6865 Once again, a fender-bender isn't done "purposely" just because you THINK it is. Your narrative doesn't even make sense since she didn't personally know him, so why would she intentionally hit him? His bike wasn't even damaged. And homeowners have no duty to stay in their house and hide, do you expect fast food employees to run away when an unruly customer enters the kitchen? Those bikers had zero authority to follow her, but they did only because they wanted to retaliate.
3 armed bikers following you HOME is in fact a threat that allows you to brandish your firearm in self-defense. He, however, cannot claim self-defense since he was preying on her while armed and with 2 other armed individuals, while she was retreating, thus making him the aggressor.
He already had her license plate anyway, so what more info could he obtain by following her? Oh that's right, none. He was upset because she wouldn't let him scam her insurance company and that's the real reason this whole thing began, because he manufactured a "hit-and-run" by kicking her vehicle first, then saying SHE struck him, and threatening her into giving her insurance info over a situation he created.
@@alexmaclean6929 Nope, it's wrong. A hit-and-run isn't intentional just because you THINK it is, and bikers have no authority to hunt down anyone. Try taking a driver's ed course. You cannot follow anyone to get information, if you could, then hannah payne wouldn't have been sentenced to life behind bars
Pretty misleading title... Should be: entitled woman tries to run over biker, assaults him with firearm and is shot in return.
Exactly. Kept referring to her as a pregnant librarian. One of the most non threatening titles one can have. Pregnant. Carrying an innocent life. Probably quiet and shy and querky. Loves books. Smh The reporter says you can hear how panicked she was. She did not sound panicked. She sounded calm. Like when you call the manager over to complain and just know the managers gonna take your side. Smh
She was anything but a meek little librarian. Assaulted a guy more than once and was killed for it. I feel sorry for the biker.
@@opieutt9038 Apparently she even asked her mother to have a gun ready. This lady was unhinged. Of course because it was a pregnant lady, so many people simp hard for her. The only ones I feel sorry for is the biker, the baby, and the kids. The mother, for allowing her daughter to grab a gun to confront them after her running inside, is implicit, and the lady have little sympathy from me. It doesn't take much to kill a biker if you hit them, so she practically threatened the dude's life twice in less than 2 hours.
he killed two lives instantly
Channel 9 reported Morales autopsy showed no evidence of pregnancy, she was not pregnant. Volusia County Library corrected Morales was not a "librarian", she was a library worker assistant not a "librarian". I wonder why the media has not made these important corrections? Why deceive people with false details?
Obviously she didn't deserve to get hurt in any way, but she is definetly in the wrong for crashing into a biker and driving away, along with escalating the situation by pulling a gun on them.
Lol, this situation is funny 😂
Mess with the bull....
@@resilientultimate6869 how ? Someone lost their life and baby
But she was at her home
@Savetion (GODLY CONTENT) facts she screaming with her abortion that guy gave her LOL
So she did a hit-and-run, and when the victims followed her, she pulled a gun on them?
She certainly seems like she was the author of her own demise
They had no authority to follow her, they're not law enforcement. And she pulled a gun on them BECAUSE they were armed and had followed her to her home, it's called stand your ground law, sir. Kyle Rittenhouse isn't the only one who can defend himself, you know. Homeowners can too. And before you say it, Hannah Payne was arrested , prosecuted, convicted, and SENTENCED for following someone over a hit-and-run, so don't you dare say it's legal because it's not
@@truthspeaker7553 Did you even watch the video? do you know what a concealed weapons permit mean? and what law says you can't follow the person who intentionally tried to kill you? truthspeaker more like deaflistener 😂
@@vorisodan4627 Laws pertaining to stalking and harassment and menacing. It varies by state, but by choosing to follow her home, Derr committed a crime. He also has no proof Morales ever intentionally hit his vehicle, that's like Hannah Payne claiming Kenneth Herring intentionally hit the motorist in front of him when Mr. Herring was experiencing a medical emergency. Intent is for the D.A. to determine, not the upset motorist
@@truthspeaker7553 True, they had no authority, but following someone is not a criminal act.
Running outside your house and pointing a gun at someone doesn't count as self defense in court.
@@truthspeaker7553Are you slow
Sehe was Safe once she was in her house and then came back outside pointing a gun at someone
The biker didn’t threaten her with his gun he just reacted to being held at punpoint
In no world is her action self defense
Maybe just don’t intentionally hit someone and then run from the scene
None of this would have happened if she just handled the situation like an adult and not a irresponsible teenager. Now her daughter is left to deal with that pain and trauma of losing her mother in such an unnecessary manner.
Hotep982, I agree with you 100%.
Makes you wonder if it was better for the kids. World will never know
never do stupid or dangerous stuff on the road, just because someone is being rude to you doesn’t mean you should engage with them. no argument is worth your life
Lol, this is funny 😂
you mean never pull a gun on someone because they have a right to pull a gun at ya back, the biker didn't even get charged haha
Inside edition video portion portrayed this like there was a possibility she was in the right... well witnesses say (its even in the description) that she intentionally hit that guy on his bike then took off. He followed the car down about 1-3 blocks to her house assuming its either a hit and run or she's just speeding to her residence unhappy she got in an accident to get her insurance proof and get it over with. He simply sat on his motorcycle calling the police...when suddenly she rushed out of the house with a gun and opened fire. He had a concealed carry permit, grabbed it, and returned fire, killing her, which is objectively self-defense. So, yea, she got angry and wanted to blame the motorcyclist for her mistake pulled a gun and it cost her life and her unborn child. Extremely sad she couldn't just stop herself from acting so crazy in general, much less when she's pregnant.
@TheWicked
A PREGNANT LADY WAS KILLED BY THE MOTORCYCLIST AND YOU THINK THAT ITS FUNNY!!!!! 🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬!!!!!! YOU’RE A SICK BASTARD!!!! WHAT IF SHE WAS YOU'RE WIFE CARRYING YOUR CHILD WOULD YOU STILL BE LAUGHING AT THAT?!?!?!
That's crazy how I just made a video on road rage
Amazing how different news reports change the facts. This actually happened several months ago. Simply being a pregnant female and a librarian doesn't give you the right to intentionally hit a motorcycle and then point a gun at the driver. Yes, he probably shouldn't have followed her home but then again she went inside to retrieve her gun and then came back out pointing it at him. At the moment she went inside she was no longer in danger. She should have locked her door and called 911. When she came back outside with the gun she became the aggressor.
This is the update! The original had less info naturally. Furthermore she did not just point a gun. Instead of calling cops about a hit and run, he chased her home. She naturally got scared and ran for her gun. He then saw the gun and shot her.
@@KayDejaVu Naturally would have been, went inside, locked the door, got her gun and waited for the police. You can't fix stupid.
Best comment I've read
@@KayDejaVu got scared but running out confronting the biker carrying a gun? Yeah that's sounds frightened alright
She was already guilty of hit and run. They had every right to follow her and report the incident.
This is so sad and I wanted to be on the mother’s side. But I just can’t after the whole video. She did everything wrong. How could she be so brazen and confident when she so clearly brought the situation upon herself? When she was on 911 talking it reminded me of some people I know who blame everything on everyone else.
True she could have still been alive if she didn't point a gun at the biker
The bikers did everything wrong. They have no authority to follow her. You guys claim Hannah Payne was wrong for following Kenneth Herring, but support those WS bikers following a Latina woman down? That's a double standard.
@@arturocamaney9235 she have no reason to hit a biker than run away now does she ?
@@neonwolf3415 Kenneth Herring hit a motorist and then fled, yet Hannah Payne was charged for following him. Now you want to apply a different set of rules because the victim was Latina and being chased down by racist bikers?
@@arturocamaney9235 wtf was racist have to do with this
The mother failed her, and the dead daughter thought she was entitled, its a hard lesson to learn, she won't do that again.
How is she entitled. A biker gang tried to insurence fraud her so she left. And then they killed her
The bikers were the entitled ones since they chased her down without having police authority. Try again. They should have minded their own business instead of retaliating and let the police deal with it. The biker failed himself
@@arturocamaney9235 just look at how many thumbs up, your thought process is the same as that girl
@@arturocamaney9235 the police isn't the answer or the savior to everything
@@JohnC-kc5uh Well, most people would feel otherwise if they were on the receiving end of being chased down and threatened by armed bikers. Also, the mere fact that people OPPOSED Hannah Payne chasing down Kenneth Herring for fleeing the scene of a hit-and-run shows that most people just say whatever the news tells them to say
This lady couldn’t control her emotions long enough to think about her own child and realize that this was a stupid decision
Why because it’s a woman she can’t control her emotions. What’s your excuse if this were both men involved? You sound dumb. Have you ever been pregnant? Pretty sure carrying a human inside of you will cause hormonal imbalance. The emotions isn’t the issue, bringing guns into the equation is.
Sad
This is why women shouldnt drive
Well, both sides make stupid decision, that biker could just remember the car plate and report it to the police, but no, "I'm big guy, I gonna handle it myself, I got gun, I'm brave, I'm strong". Fuking hell, that why you call cops for that kind of thing.
@@doom6199 you don’t run someone over and expect them not to react violently she had it coming
You're not supposed to hit and run, but following the person that just hit you home to get the insurance information can be deadly. Sucks for both people.
Should of just got the license plate number
Na she was 100% wrong, she could have gone in her house and waited for cop, she chose to pull a gun.
At the end of the day it's the lady that's in the wrong. Why? Because she pulled out the gun first. 🔫
She could've killed the biker this is her fault.
The woman was a hit and run. She also was the first to pull a gun.
Dude, so sorry for the 11 year old, but that pregnant mom did that to herself
How so? The biker followed her home when he had no authority to do so, she was retreating, but he stalked her home to retaliate. He only got away with it because he's affiliated with a biker gang
@arturocamaney9235 She hit one of them on the highway and didn't stop..... how is she in the right
@@arturocamaney9235 you need some more brain cells
@@arturocamaney9235 oh God you sound ridiculous. She hit him. Then fled the scene. He had every right to follow her and had already notified authorities. Get your little brain some Oxygen and leave emotions out of it. She screwed up and got herself blasted. That's reality
@@paulmccartney1982 Even if true, so what? Let the police and your insurance company take care of it. Kenneth Herring also collided into the motorist in front of him, did that mean what Hannah Payne did to him was justified?
For everybody saying he followed her home, she hit him with her car and took off. Intentionally hit him with her CAR. He called the police and went after her, to tell them whefe to come to. Somebody tries to kill you and youre just gonna say "oh i hope they catch her one day". He called the police right whem he sfarted following her, giving directions and what just happened... and in HER 911 call she doesnt mention HER part.
If she was truly scwred, she made it inside her home. She could have stayed there until police arrived. But no, youve got your 11 year old inside with your elderly mother, youre allegedly pregnant, and youre going to grab a gun and go confront bikers that youre so afraid of?!?!
I hate that she died and her daughter is without her mother but every bit of that would have been avoided 100% if SHE wouldnt have literallt started it..
You didn’t mention how they risked their lives by trying to ride and talk on the phone. That’s dangerous especially when you’re in traffic. That alone could have been a disaster. She should have pulled over. I’m a firm believer in the 2nd amendment but you have to use good judgement when you’re pulling your gun on someone. It’s reckless to think you can pull it out in all types of situations. She knew she hit him so for her to run and then go get a gun tells me she was unstable. Now her mom and 11 year old daughter has to live with this tragedy which is sad. She probably ruined that 11 year old girls life.
@@Bowhunterohiomost modern helmets have headsets I. Them to listen to music, and talk in the home while riding. It’s not dangerous at all.
He could have taken a picture of her license plate.and given it to the cops.and he probably harassed her from the get-go so she hit him.
@@laserus3333it’s fault on both sides it’s unfortunate
@Pffftt_Ok how did he make a phone call? Camera on his phone. Ah duh. He followed the car home.
This is really something to learn.
Keep your attitude wherever you stand.
And don't be ashamed to apologize if you offended someone else.
I agree but he's the one who followed her home
she hit them with her car? they need the information and plus she could of stayed inside till the cops showed up. but no she wanted to be tough
@@isaacmaldonado3526 I agree. first of all, she hit one of the bikers and didn't pull over at least to say sorry or whatever but she kept on driving and obviously they would follow her Cuz they need her information, but she pulled up with a gun instead.
@@emerald_kiwi4046 dude she intentionally hit him that is intent to kill on a bike just 2 inches can send him flying
@@emerald_kiwi4046 umm because she hit one of them? it's not like the bikers tried entering her house. she could've just went inside and called the police, if she wasn't an aggressor. but she was, so she came back out with a gun and got herself killed.
She hit someone and drove off
I don't care if you're pregnant or not, you can't do that.
You also shouldn't follow someone home. Both made mistakes that day.
He ain't make no mistake. Hitting a motorcyclist intentionally then running off should be attempted murder. He did what any body with scenes would do.
Yep
@@salvyballacc facts. She was playing the victim when she called the police. That's what enrages me, now, the bad guys were the dudes. But, they were in the very wrong by following her. Both sides were stupidly wrong
@@aryshorts3888 How we’re they in the wrong? Wouldn’t you have tried to get someone’s license plate if someone hit you?
You say that now but I guarantee you if someone were to hit you you would try to get their information before they go off into the universe somewhere.
Her voice did not sound scared, play stupid games win stupid prizes
pregnant women librarian. vs motorcycle rider .
What? the woman is the hero and the rider is the villain? all her own actions lead to this.
I almost hit a motorcyclist one time too. Felt bad to the bottom of my stomach. He followed me but I just went ahead to drive into a parking lot with him stopping there too. Fortunately, he was forgiving and we eventually made up about the altercation. There’s ways to not let emotions take over. Do the right thing, talk it out, find what can be done better, and move on.
Good job
There's the right way and the American way.
So you tried to run Woow😂
@@fredwaywalls4686 lmao good catch😂😂
@@TheChuck445 catch of What exactly?
Crazy how situations can easily escalate to THIS level!..alarming and heart breaking
Lol, this is funny 😂
A gun in the home is 43 times more likely to be used to kill a friend or family member than a burglar or other criminal.
The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) advises that the safest home for a child is one without guns. The most effective way to prevent unintentional gun injuries, suicide and homicide to children and adolescents, research shows, is the absence of guns from homes and communities.
@Charizard S It’s not her fault
@@resilientultimate6869 Why is this funny?
It’s amazing how the media will try to always clean up a woman’s misbehavior this is gross. Hope he doesn’t get charged.
Don't worry. He wasn't charged.
1:59 he has not been charged
😢😢
Facts finally someone said it
@@KK-kz9ee That is great.
So let me get this straight, she intentionally hit another motorist with her vehicle and then fled the scene, and when said motorist followed her to her home, she grabs a gun and commits aggravated assault. Sorry but that guy was perfectly within his rights to protect himself whether she was pregnant or not.
Obviously the loss of life is very tragic. But... what was she thinking? Bumping into a biker is very dangerous for both parties
Then confronting them with a gun.... like, what was she expecting?
@@ddwalker3744 she did a hit and run
@@sh0rtyb0yp1mp that's why the insurance and license plates exist . you don't follow sb home bc they jus might ...idk.... have a weapon
@@SaroDantra they faller her to her home what do you expect
@Savetion (GODLY CONTENT) cringe
She can’t hit them purposely, and proceed to point a gun and not expect consequences, but this is still tragic and horrible
@@Dthan_G this guy kind of proves you wrong. No charges so far. 🤷
We only have the bikers word and his buds as to what happens and they ain't known as being the best people.
@@Dthan_G you can follow someone if they hit and run because 1. That’s illegal and 2. Gender has nothing to justify when there’s a gun aimed at you
@@Dthan_G I get that she’s pregnant but she was a bozo about this entire situation and it’s her own fault
@@Dthan_G Yeah you can, especially if your innocent. If someone hits you and takes off your allowed to follow them and get the police to them. Which is exactly what happened, unfortunately she made it worse by pointing a gun at someone an her having an ego trip. You need to learn the law. No charges filed !! Justice 👍👍
You mean entitled pregnant librarian that hit and ran on a motorcycle pulls a gun and is now the victim.
She’s a woman and she was pregnant plus she’s white the media will never allow her to be the aggressor that’s just how the pot melts
So... A hit and run assailant tried to murder innocent bikers who defended themselves against a 2nd murder attempt, sounds like self defence.
@@noose04 she is definitely guilty of recklessly putting her baby at risk. Driving recklessly, fleeing a crime scene, and trying to finish what she started with her gun. All her own fault, she had so many times to do the right thing but decided to be stupid, unlawful and reckless, this outcome is all due to her stupidity.
@@noose04 I feel bad for her baby and that biker
@@michaelhunt452 ah I thought they said she was pregnant.
@@noose04 *if* She had been pregnant, that would have been on her. But there was no indication of pregnancy on autopsy.
I see both sides of this whole situation. It’s just absolutely terrible for both families involved.
How do you see a person's side that threatened death twice to this man?
@@hihosilencemeviolateme949 he followed her to her house
@@allegraanegra455 she almost ran him over a big car vs a bike she coulda killed him
@@smokeebluntz838 but why was he even yelling at her and speeding next to her agressively in the first place 😧
Play stupid games win stupid prizes
She hits someone with her car, pulled a gun out and wants sympathy? Nope! She created the whole ordeal.
Facts
Bikers allowed to follow her home and make it worse? Sure!
@@evan7572 No. But really, it’s not against the law to “follow” someone home. Cause the bikers could’ve just said they were visiting a buddy who coincidentally lives next door. In this specific situation, when someone hits another person on a bike and nearly kills them, I don’t think it’s crazy for them to follow the car home. Especially since she fled the crime scene.
Another thing is this.. it’s obvious the bikers didn’t follow her just to shoot her. On the 911 call, there is conversation between the two parties. If the bikers really wanted her dead, she would’ve been shot as soon as she walked out. But no… she walked out, with a gun, argued, than pointed the gun at the men. No decision she made that day was a good one… not a single one.
@@evan7572 plus, they didn’t make it worse. She did.
True
This woman was dangerous, she had no regard for others.
“Oh no, the consequences of my actions”
Yet Andrew Derr (the biker) was the instigator, he continued to stalk her home even though she was trying to retreat and then baited her into defending herself so that he could use HIS weapon. He should have minded his own business and let law enforcement deal with it instead of hunting her down to retaliate
@@arturocamaney9235 Um no, she was the "instigator" by hitting him with the car. Then she went inside her house to retrieve the gun, then came back outside instead of just waiting for the police inside. Not saying the biker is a great and upstanding citizen but this obviously wasn't self-defense on her part, and her tone of voice on 911 call doesn't sound scared for her or anyone else's safety; it just sounds angry.
@@arturocamaney9235If someone hit me with a car, especially intentionally, you’d bet your ass I wouldn’t be minding my own business. He had every right to follow her, especially if he was trying to get the police to press charges. Also, I *highly* doubt he baited her into pointing a gun at them, how would he even know she had a gun on her?
@@arturocamaney9235 how did he retaliate, by sitting outside her home, he did not go onto her property or make threats, she was the one who left the security of her home and pointed a gun at him, nice try at deflecting blame simp.
@@Caitilizzie A private citizen cannot press charges; only the D.A. can make this decision. A collision also isn't a crime just because YOU think it is; this is for law enforcement and the D.A. to determine. Please take a driver's ed course before you do something silly. Do you even have a valid driver's license? Because if you did, you'd know it's ILLEGAL to follow someone because of a collision, it's called stalking. Hannah Payne was sentenced to life behind bars for following a fleeing motorist, so let's not pretend as if it's legal.
If my car is totaled, I would be upset, but I can't ASSUME the other person did it intentionally and follow them home. A hit-and-run isn't intentional just because the person leaves (they could be suffering a medical emergency or anxiety attack) and it's not intentional just because you THINK it is or WANT it to be.
How would he know she had a firearm at her home? Um, it's Florida. When you choose to intrude onto someone's private residential property DESPITE knowing you're unwelcome, especially in a state like Florida which allows homeowners to stand their grounds rather than retreat, you can't feign ignorance of the law. Derr was in the wrong and knew what he was doing, hence why he had a firearm and 2 of his friends with him to help him commit felonies and get away with it
Yes that’s exactly what you’re supposed to do when you’re pregnant… driving crazy, running into a motorcycle rider, fleeing the scene, then going to grab your gun to try to intimidate the person you hit. WTF is wrong with this lady?
I agree she was acting like a maniac being pregnant unresponsible and going in the house and pulling out a gun like they're going to shoot if she hit the guy what makes him think that she wasn't gonna shoot so he did what he had to do to protect himself self defense hes on the winning side yes I feel bad for her and her unborn child but she acted like a maniac and coming out with a gun it was just wrong she shouldn't knew better you hit a biker call the police and don't pull out a gun that's just ridiculous he found it very threatening the way she was acting pulling out a gun in her house like she was a Billy bad-a
excuse my language
It's just sad situation I feel for the guy and actuality he was just riding his bike and she hits him and runs off that is just such a crime so it's not his fault it's only going about what she was acting she should of she should have just played out called 91 when she get in and stay at the scene you don't get up and run away and leave the person to die that was just awful of her in the long run she was very irresponsible parent to do that to her unborn child and her daughter at home and mother put them through this kind of mess it was just wrong of her God-bless her and I hope she finds that she has caused her unborn baby this is just sad the worst thing I've ever seen Must you write But not running away from the scene we have to take responsibility no matter what to literally just kill or try to bump into this guy's bike and let him hang there while she hit him and then he goes to her house follows her and basically he they wanted to shoot her or do you wanted to talk to her and she pulled out a gun very wrong
Mental problem nothing else easy answer
It's the idiot motorcyclist fault who killed. Maybe something fell and she was picking it up like a bottle or something. You know stuff like that happens. Doesnt give you reason to kill someone. Be an adult
Why follow someone to their home? That's completely irrational. Hes so pathetic move on with your life
She committed a hit and run and then further escalated the situation. Have no sympathy for someone who almost killed someone.
Maybe don't follow someone to their house the motorcycle guy was OK but he still followed her and killed her 🤔
@@feartheghostinme675 Both side made a stupid decision in this situation
She may have been at fault but the bikers also escalated the situation as well by following her. Just because she was in the wrong does not mean they were in the right.
Melodynaby9398.
She almost killed him twice when she brought out her gun
When you play victim, then actually become one
If h would have came to m home it would have been the other way around
No matter how many times you tell us she was a pregnant librarian, it won’t absolve her of her fault for this. I feel sorry for her family and her unborn child, and the man that acted out of fear of his own life.
Thank you for understanding
I felt sorry for her but this was the unfortunate price to pay if you want to act like a Karen.... 😕
He feared for his own life because he followed her and didn’t expect her to also have a gun. Should have just taken the plates and called the cops. They both suck @ss tbh.
Everyone involved were all f'd in their heads. Why follow a lone woman home? Why did they not take her plate number and report her? He was looking to scare someone who had already proven to be an unstable idiot. Simple as. Another example of f'd up people reacting like children and thinking their tough with their f'd up weapons.
They were both at fault he shouldn't have followed her home he should have got her plate and called the police cops would then see where she lived and confronted her. She should not have walked up to him with a gun period.
Ugh I feel absolutely terrible for the victim’s mother and daughter as innocent witnesses. No one deserves to die, but this situation was escalated by all parties involved. Tragic and senseless.
Hit and run then grabbed the gun ? She is not a victim. A suspect
She hit him, didn’t stop to see if he was okay… then pointed a gun at him. He was trying to find why she kept swerving her car towards his bike. So no she’s not a victim. The baby was though.
@UCzfavLpu5J5_r1mrwI9NUwg i understand but when you follow someone to their home you're just asking for all kinds of trouble their all guilty in this matter
@@Jairmyster to be honest. Even this troll is wrong but you did offensive comments that can be considered as a threat. You might go to jail if intimidation and threat. Just letting you know.
@@ruthinmars it was hit and run. She got shot outside of her house. She just had to admit her fault and call insurance company.
They parked on the road and didn’t enter her property, all she had to do was stay inside and wait for police, but she grabbed a gun and went back out to confront the guys in the street. When you take things to the street, it’s all on you. We can argue all day about who was more at fault, but the fact is she would be alive today if she didn’t engage with them again. Nobody wins in that situation, just stay inside and wait for the police if they aren’t actively attacking you.
She also wasn't pregnant
It’s horribly dangerous to leave the scene of an accident. You never know when you’re going to run into someone with more confidence than you or is crazier than you and you don’t know the lengths they’ll go to to prove a point.
@Akari agreed
@Akari yes
She got what she deserved idiot. She personally hit him on his bike aka hit-and-run and she pulled out a gun first and got owned. She got what she got. Hahahaha I don’t feel sorry for her at all. That’s how you get criminals off the street
The biker didn't go to extreme or crazy lengths my guy...
@Akari agreed just wish the baby wasn’t killed
From bumping into him with her car to running into her house and coming out with a gun, instead of barricading herself indoors until the cops show up, is Karen-like behaviour. She did nothing to deescalate the situation and let her ego and emotions run unchecked. Following someone who committed a hit and run is not unreasonable, neither is shooting someone who comes out of their house screaming at you with a gun, especially after they tried to hit your bike with their car.
Couldn't agree more.
She was a karen
@@chasingexcellence9336 Shouldnt of followed her home, could of easily written down the plates and gave it to police. Its never smart to follow someone to their property
@@narchu123 ur coming awfully close to victim blame. - although not wrong, based on this story, the woman was the aggressor and the bike had all the right in the world to take her out. she should have though of that before trying to run the dude down on his bike. -- Neither person in this story is blameless here, both made bad choices, in this case though the big bad pregnant lady made the choice to come back out of her house with a gun. Ida shot her too. then again, I would have just wrote down the plate, like you said. Bad all the way around.
@@mynameisnobody1386 "to take her out" if he called the cops then why didnt he stay off the property and wait for the cops? He had zero right to follow someone and open fire on someones property that he followed. Most cops even tell them to dont follow them because it can lead to some dangerous situations. She shouldnt of fled but he shouldnt of followed. This is just a sad case from anger on both sides ): Honestly, no one is victim here, it was easily avoidable
It doesn't Make sense the mother said? Did I hear correctly that she hit them with her car?? Jesus christ. And then ran at THEM with a gun??
She brought all this on herself.
This is sad and I’m sorry to hear of her death, unfortunately in cases like this one you can’t point a gun at someone and not expect them to defend themselves. It’s just sad someone had to die.
I'm from India & it's sickening to see so many gun shot deaths in USA😓
Why don't u guys Ban Guns for the common public? Is is not safe to be without a gun in USA?
@@itsmevd9916 sigh it’s sad bc these “self defense” laws cause more damage than protecting themselves.
@@LMO1012 thats exactly why ny doesn't have them because there's no use for them and yet their still being imported in
@@stevegn02 I know a few that have gotten off for self defense in NY its super hard but possible if you where in serious life or death situation
Nah man This monster followed in to her her house knowing he was caring a gun… he wanted things to unfold the way they did… he will pay price one day
She started it , and then did everything wrong . She could have just waited for the cops . I feel sorry for her family.
Does she have a right to defend her home tho? Why didnt the bikers wait for the cops???
@@sunnyvegas2778 it was her fault she started it and plus there’s not a 100% chance that the cops will find her for fleeing
@@sunnyvegas2778 You don't have the right to run outside with a gun and point it at people. Bad decisions were made on everyones end here.
@@sunnyvegas2778 what do you mean defend her home. It isnt like the bikers were trying to enter her house. Judging by the spot where she was shot the bikers were probably standing around their bike while being on the phone with the cop. According to the police report she called her mom to get her gun ready while she was on the road. Came home, grabbed the gun, and stomped out screaming while pointing her gun at them. And this is after a hit & run then bumping into the bikers again while being chased. She is 200% at fault here.
he killed two lives instantly
So am I supposed to feel sorry for the woman? For the hit and run and aggressiveness?
She committed a hit and run and brandished a weapon when confronted LMAO
She shouldn't have left the scene. Him not being charged, proves there was more to this.
The motorcycle dudes were following a potential criminal, then she pulled a gun on them, while pregnant. What an idiot
Not charged YET. That we know of.
Him not being charged=he shot in self defense. What MORE do you think there is?
She's a pregnant woman who should be taking every precaution for the sake of the child. NOT pointing a gun at 3 bikers. I'm just glad he was packin and that she won't be reproducing.
Indeed
She was a karen
it really was her fault. she hit him twice and then pointed a gun at bikers.... entitled woman.
I know she was pregnant but that does not justify hitting someone with your car. Not once in the audio did I hear her say she was sorry for hitting him.
Dont point your gun and not exoect someone to shoot at you in self defense.
Condolences to the family.
Does he get charged for killing the innocent unborn child?
@@serjio5133 She pointed the gun at him first. He would not necessarily get charged.
@@serjio5133 she started the situation so she's responsible for all deaths including the death of any innocent
I agree it’s a tragedy but it could have been avoided
I couldn't imagine intentionally doing stuff to risk my baby's life like that. That baby didn't stand a chance due to stupidity.
Finally, a woman gets held accountable. Justice is served.
This is textbook what not to do in a road rage altercation
She’s in the wrong. She didn’t think about her kids. This is why you respect EVERYONE on the road. SHE SHOULD’VE NEVER HIT THE BIKERS OR LEFT THE SCENE!!!!!
He had no right to follow her all the way home
She thought about her kids that’s why she got her gun! 3 biker dudes at ur house of course you’d grab a weapon
She not in the wrong she was being a mom protecting her babys he should be charged he was the dumb ass whole followed her home but ya it was wrong of her to walk out there she should have just stayed in well holding the gun inside her house where she would be safe
@@marierose4067 you have the right to protect your property. If I'm followed home and they let me into my house while they stay in my driveway, you got about 3 seconds before I open fire and kill you. That's the stand your ground law.
@@Ironminer97 almost killing a person and not expect to get followed?
Possible scenarios: She shouldn’t have hit him. She could have reported the incident. If she noticed he was following, she could have driven to a police station or a public place to resolve the issue. She could have gone home, locked herself inside and waited for the cops to arrive. List goes on and on. First she instigated, then she engaged. I’m really sorry for the situation but it was completely unnecessary and there were many opportunities to fix it.
Yeah she made mistake after mistake after mistake. First mistake was that she purposely hit the biker. Second mistake is that she fled the scene. Third mistake was that she tried to hit them again after she realized they weren’t gonna let her slide after the hit and run. Fourth mistake was that she assumed they wouldn’t shoot back after she pointed a gun at them first (which any gun owner should know that if you bring a gun into a dispute, you just allowed yourself to be a potential target). I feel horrible for the mother but also the biker since he will get charged for killing someone even if it’s slightly self defense. But this could have all been avoided if the lady just stopped and took the responsibly after hitting the biker the first time.
That won't work, the people in the bike would shot her throught the window if she was running away without leaving the car!
I doubt they would shoot through the window since the only reason they shot her was because she brought out her gun and pointed it at them. If they wanted to shoot her in general, the would have shot her during the car chase. If she didn’t flee the scene or went to the police station to turn herself in, they probably would have left her alone after they knew she got arrested.
She had the cops on the line while being chased, not once did she mention a gun pointing at her
Even the bikers called the police. Im pretty sure they just wanted the issue resolved. I would not let someone getaway with a hit and run. Especially being on a bike
tries running over biker with car that is assault with deadly weapon, then she pulls a gun and goes back out to confront him???
If she stayed in the house until police came she'd be alive today.She had a gun ,she pointed it at the biker and he had every right to protect himself.
She is the one who escalated the situation TWICE. By road raging and then pulling a gun on these guys. She knew what she was doing was wrong. The bikers should not have followed her but instead gotten her license plate and filed a report.
100 percent correct
Totally not the guys who were armed and felt brave enough to follow someone home
@@vandarkholme7759 so just because they followed someone who HIT them and happened to be armed, that means what?
@@vandarkholme7759 well duhhh she literally rammed into someone on a motorcyle.
@@vandarkholme7759 and the reason why the guys followed her home because she literally hit one of the bikers and drove off, thats literally a hit and run
The woman was in the wrong. They were probably following her home since she hit one of them and was trying to run. If you pull a gun out at someone, they have the right to pull one out and shoot first. Even if she only intended to scare them off. How would they know that?
Exactly
That poor fetus… was the only innocent in this..
@Savetion (GODLY CONTENT) see you soon.
No, they shouldn't have chased her home. They should've had the police come and deal with the hit and run. She had every reason to believe her life was in danger since multiple bikers followed her to her home, where her child is, and had the right to pull out her firearm.
It's her property and these people followed her to her house. She was probably scared to death.
She doesn’t sound panicked she sounds annoyed
Good bye, Sara.
This mother was acting so wild and belligerent. She was pregnant and not even trying to protect her baby. Who brings a gun outside to fight with bikers while pregnant??? Then she had her poor 11yr old daughter and mom inside not even thinking she could have gotten them killed as well. Just sad the way she handled this.
yeah maybe if she didnt try to kill people on the road and then threaten them in a weapon she might not have died. It's just a shame how many people think she is in the right
@@DTBias yeah she was definitely trippin.
@@DTBias
Nobody is in the right here. One you don't leave an accident and the bikers should have never chased her and stayed inside her yard.
He can't claim self defense when he also instigated it and made the situation worse.
100% agree
@@susal280 they weren’t even in her yard look at the video they parked at the street Nd were on the phone with 911
She did go out there and point the gun. She didn't know he had a gun and she got shot. She went inside to safety then decided to grab a gun and left safety went back outside and confronted him all while being pregnant. What a terrible situation, and I pray for all involved.
Same could be said for the biker why did they follow her to her home?
@@squibs2570 because she fled the scene after intentionally hitting a biker
@@squibs2570 She should have driven to a police station not her home.
@@squibs2570 because she did a hit and run!! She’s not a good parent if she was willing to put herself and her baby in her belly in harms way!! She was inside the house yet decided to grab a gun and go outside!!
@@ljrawson6034 this is when you get her plate number and report it to the police, you don’t follow someone home
Panicking?... Sounded more like an entitled Karen to me, I'm sorry to say.
I guess she never checked out the book on what not to do. What a Karen!
She’s is the perfect example of someone who doesn’t understand gun ownership. Sadly it cost her life
i'm confused ...weren't they on her property ? i'd pull a gun on three men on my property too
@@lynae4480 she committed a hit and run that's why they followed her.
@@lynae4480 She pulled a Glock on them and threatened the bikers like tf do you want the bikers to do?
@@ddwalker3744 no they weren’t no where in the videos says they were following her before the accident
@@waltersimons6833
Maybe the bikers shouldn’t have followed her to her property
Now why in the world would after arriving and safe inside her home would this woman retrieve a handgun and return outside to confront these individuals who followed her home. Sad and certainly not very smart.
1) she commits attempted murder/assault with a deadly weapon
2) she doesn’t pull over to help out and exchange insurance
3) she goes home and threatens them with a gun
4) oh no she’s such a victim
She could’ve saved herself and her child if it weren’t for her blind decision choices. I hope she rests in peace but let this be a lesson. Swallow your ego and don’t escalate the situation. It’ll save you from so many problems.
Sadly you couldn't be more wrong , how many decent human beings have been murdered when trying to remain calm and respectful during what really is a small altercation. You can love your neighbour all you want but you can't choose them .....just saying. Have a nice day.
@@E-D-E2704 Well you could first off, find a safe place to pull over. After an accident, leaving the scene and arriving home isn't exactly the right move. She was on the phone with a 911 operator, so my thought is why go home and grab a gun / be violent, when you could simply keep talking to the operator and try to cross paths with an officer? That's something dispatchers do, but okay
@@E-D-E2704 your comment doesn’t apply to this situation. If she remained calm she’d still be alive. The end.
you're justifying bikers? Well maybe you became a big bike victim and being a big moto licker now
@@E-D-E2704 well clearly that argument is off the table because look at what happened.
The pregnant librarian??? Seriously trying to downplay how reckless Sarah was. First hitting the man on a motorcycle with her car and then pointing a gun at him.
Road rage kills. Calm down, people.
Maybe the first time was an accident. The second was what bikers were looking for.
There was no proof she hit them
@@Lilhajxjk274if there wasn't there'd be charges filed but there weren't
EXACTLY sorry her being pregnant does NOT excuse what she did and anyone that thinks so should be checked by a therapist.
@@Joe-qm4yv corruption exist which is why they got away with false accusing and killing her
She pointed a gun to others first. That’s clear self defense.
Dangerous how women play the part so well of a victim right away it’s like a gift
😂😂😂
While this is unfortunate, it is completely her fault. First she hit the bikers and fled the scene. Then they followed her and yelled and she hit them again. Someone yelling at you does not mean you hit them with a car. Finally when they followed her to her house because she tried to run them over with a car and then she threatened them with a gun and they acted in self defense and cooperated with police.
Agreed.
This is not completely her fault. They followed her to her home which is a stupid idea. If she was faster at shooting, or shot at them while inside her house then they biker would have been dead. If you get hit take the liscence plate number and wait for police to arrive. It is an idiotic idea to try and take matters into your own hands. That goes for her too
@@dixiekongfan1 she should have stopped and said sorry. And waited for cops so she could get arrested for running into someone on purpose. Also, she did it twice. They followed her to stop her and confront her. Then she pulls a gun when she is already in the wrong. Plus why would she drive home it’s like she was planning on putting them on gun point
I think she was a karen but i feel bad for the unborn kid , very unfortunate
@@bbcclub4843 imagine being georgian tho...
I feel so bad for that little girl and her unborn sibling. Rest In Peace both of them
Well, if this story is true... the only one I feel for is the baby
I feel sorry for the biker who almost got killed in a hit and run and made to look like a stalker and attacker.
Typical woman who has to be (act) the victim
You mean unborn baby?
@@HomesForSaleEnsenada I second that.
Can't believe she tried to run him off the road and then pulled a gun on him. He was smart to call the cops right away.
Why did she run into the house and grab a gun and then go outside, it just makes no sense at all, all she had to do was call the police and wait for them, but instead she wanted to take the matters into her own hands
"Derr then began to scream at Morales and kick her car, according to witnesses who spoke with police. In response, Morales hit Derr’s saddlebag with her Kia, causing him to almost crash."
I’m so sorry for the mom and the daughter, it’s really heartbreaking for them to have lost their loved one like that. But that doesn’t change the fact that that lady did everything wrong-hit somebody on a motorcycle because she couldn’t just ignore them yelling at her, ran from the scene after hitting someone, then got a gun and pulled it on them instead of just waiting inside for the police. Terrible, terrible decisions and it cost her her life.
That’s not to say the bikers didn’t also make some poor decisions that day, but at no point did they threaten her life with their actions. She, on the other hand, threatened theirs TWICE in the span of just a few minutes. That’s not ok and unfortunately, the risk you take when doing so is that you might end up hurt or dead instead.
Very well put. Anyone who tries to argue the points you have made would have to be delusional. You were factual and correct in why the woman died, she died as a result of her own negligence.
I literally would have gotten her license plate and just gave it to the police. After a road rage incident it’s natural for a person being followed to fear for their life.
@@mielissa100ify I doubt the police would have done anything about it in that case.
@@mielissa100ify Besides the fact that yelling at someone on the road is a constitutionally protected right, I would say it is also something that nearly all of us have done at one time or another. Hitting someone with our vehicle-especially a person on a motorcycle that has no protection like someone in a car does-is NOT something we’ve all done (or hopefully would even consider doing), and is not a protected right unless in the case of self-defense or defense of someone else.
She was inside the safety of her vehicle, and she had no reason to fear for her life from someone yelling at her (for what I assume was something stupid or dangerous she had done on the road). The correct and appropriate response to being yelled at is to just drive away. If for some reason they followed her and continued to yell at her, then she should’ve made sure her doors were locked, called 911 and headed to the nearest police station. If you’re supposedly so afraid of somebody who is following you, you don’t drive to your house.
SHE was the aggressor in this story, SHE was the one who got physically violent with the guy on the motorcycle, and SHE was the one who pulled a gun. The bikers shouldn’t have been yelling at her and they shouldn’t have followed her to her home, but one of them had just almost been killed by her, and I can understand not wanting her to get away. Don’t try to blame them for her actions.
@@elsabean6791 it is actually legal to follow criminals to their homes to report a crime, you can look it up
What a tragedy, you can tell that guy didn’t wanna kill her, they just wanted answers. But the real tragedy is that her actions not only costed her life, but also her child’s. 😔
I agree the bikers should have just got her information. Their actions scared that girl. But my father always said.
Never take your weapon out and point it, because someone will parish. Sadly enough it was her.
Action and reaction from both the biker and the pregnant. And I'm sure that biker didn't know the woman was pregnant.
Think about it.
If someone was pointing a weapon at you what would you do or think at that very moment.
It's kill or be killed
So Sorry.
God Bless the family of the woman that passed and her unborn child.
This is a crazy world we live in.
Be Safe.Stsy Calm.
Be Educated on guns and gun safety.
@@Anti.Vegans Both parties were guilty of wreck less behavior, the whole situation could have been avoided as well if she hadn’t tried to kill the biker by running him over. What you need to understand, if the police would have went there and she came out with a gun, the outcome would’ve been the same. You can’t let your emotions get the best of you, it’s too dangerous in this world we live in today. Anger and acting on impulse is what took 2 lives and ruined another, and God help that woman’s family. ❤️
I dont think he followed her home to have a tea with her.
@@wv_bearded_basser252 she wouldnt come out with a gun if the cops were there
@@Anti.Vegans mom did that, being wreckless and a reck loose. completely emotional and unhinged.
After you attempt to kill someone with your car the pull a gun on em wtf do you expect 😢
Unreal wow he’s gotta live his whole life carrying that load now
Pregnant Karen's sense of entitlement blows my mind.
I feel bad for the mom and daughter. Sad to witness it. Understandable that the biker thought she was gonna shoot them. Don’t point a gun if you’re not ready to shoot
I feel bad for both of them. They both made bad decisions but I also think a person should not only, not point a gun if they're not ready to shoot OR get shot at.
Couldn’t agree more
True never point a gun without the intention to shoot, and those guys have a license I can understand why they thought she would try to kill them.
Why would he follow her
@@kelseylane9710 she intentionaly hit a biker with her car
While this may be heartbreaking for mom to hear, your daughter played a role in her not being here. While you think you may know your daughter's intention to get the gun, the person on the other side who does not know her, wouldn't have known. Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot. Leaving a crime scene is a felony and do not disregard your daughter hitting someone with a deadly vehicle. I'm sure the motorist did not plan on ending someone's life but like many have done so before him, wanted to get your location to report your child. I feel bad that you and grandchild witness this. Sucks all the way around
They could've backed off and called the Police.
@@nuttybar9 yes no one is innocent from both parties except the unborn child
They could have taken the number of the vehicle? Why would they follow someone to their home and trespass in their property without permission.
@robert justus they did, they had to follow her to get plates and describe rhe vehicle. It's not illegal to follow people on public roads, nimrod. They didn't even get close to her house. I saw video and they weren't even on her lawn. She overreacted (not surprising since she was a road rager) and ruined her families life.
@@petrichor259 they didn't trespass nimrod. It's normal and legal to follow people on public roads. They didn't even go onto her property before she pulled a gun.
Karen???
The way I see it, this woman caused her own death. You intentionally hit someone with your car. And when you call the cops, you did not tell them what you did. And then later pull a gun on them. Very bad choices. This guy was just following you so you take responsibility for your action.
She put herself and her unborn child at risk by intentionally hitting that biker, than pulling a gun on him. Prayers to that biker and the woman and her family.
Ik they try so hard to make her seem like the victims when she was definitely in the wrong
Yep. She should have pulled over. Not hit and run wtf
@@riktoonz and the injured biker isn’t a victim?
@@riktoonz be very careful its not senseless it was self defense
Yeah good riddance
Unfortunately....sometimes this is what tragically happens when one cannot properly control their emotions !!!! 😪😪😪😪
Yeah I could honestly care less about the woman. But the baby dying sucks
For God sick she was pregnant Three Men followed her home
@@cynthg9547 three men followed her home after she hit a biker on purpose and flee the scene. They had to get her information and ask why did she do that? You sound like you do things this woman does. I don’t think you’ll wrap your head around it sweetie. She killed her children not the men:)
@@Grant-co5ef What about the emotions of the men? Were they not the ones that chased her and followed her to her property?
Come on now.
Agreed. They were three grown men. Why let your emotions take control of you to the point where you're chasing a pregnant women to HER HOME?!?!
That's madness. Hoping to see them charged.
She fled from a crime scene AFTER intentionally bumping the motorcycle driver.
As a biker, this woman is absolutely a bully. She thinks she is tough in her metal cage.
"A Woman that hit and run a biker, fled the scene to her house and drew her weapon, ends up dead"
Title fixed.
"Pregnant and librarian" mean nothing, she pulled a gun and was killed for her efforts.
and the loser biker followed HER HOME with a gun
@@GorgieClarissa And her dumbass went back outside towards the guy with a gun.
@@GorgieClarissa she hit him and fled the scene
@CommunismNeverWorked I didn't see the traffic accident, accident, but since the motorcycle rider was able to chase down the woman I guess only his pride was injured. Tragic stupidity
@@dennismayer4936 you never rode a bike, clearly
She hit a guy, could have killed him, and then she fled.......these kids need to learn...you can't do as you please without consequence....she is at fault.....love the way the media is twisting this...sorry sweetie should have GROWN up sooner
She was inside the home, then went back outside with a gun. Even if she missed, she'd still be charged....that is, if she was alive.
This wouldn’t have happened if the woman stopped and apologized for hitting the motorcyclist. I swear people die for the most weirdest and most stupid reasons that could have been avoided.
Yea ok
This wouldn't have happened if the Bikers didn't follow her home with the intention of murdering her.
@@GMZohar14 This wouldn't have happened if she didn't hit the biker in the first place
@@GMZohar14 Yep....she definitely had issues but the bikers were idiots too. They saw where she lived.....don't park in front of her house....just wait until police arrive. Even if the shooter isn't prosecuted criminally he is going to be sued.
@@GMZohar14 murdering her? What they simply wanted her to be accountable for the actions she took
As tragic as this may be, the woman was 100% in the wrong, she intentionally hit the biker, then fled the scene and then drew a gun on them.
As sorry as I feel for her mother, daughter and unborn child, I feel just as sorry for the biker who was attacked and then forced to kill a pregnant woman in self-defence.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!
I feel sorry for him too... and for the daughter.
I agree
This mom is a Karen...
I feel sorry for the mom and daughter. Regardless of what happened on the road. 3 men followed a pregnant woman to her house and confronted her instead of calling the police and waiting down the street. She was on her property. She had the right to draw down on him and tell him to leave. He should be charged. Both her and him made bad choices. She's dead and he should be charged with manslaughter. Self defense should not apply when you follow someone home and confront them.
No, he chased her to her house and was armed. This is the only sure thing that we know one of them did wrong. The rest, who did what before, is still to be determined as each told a different story.
Anyway, he should have called the police, that's how you solve problems, especially with so many people having weapons that is what makes these incidents even possible.