Grading Gold Commander Staples of EDHREC | Which Gold Staples are Worth Playing?
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Welcome back to the beloved series "Grading Staples," where we take the top 30 most played cards of a given color according to EDHrec and discuss our opinions on their playability, cuttability, and power! - Hry
I like the format, maybe you could do something like that for the top 30 commanders
Pleasant kenobi did that
Pleasant kenobi roasted the top commanders. The NN would actually go over why they're good and give their unlimited insight on them
@@antfayden4559 fair enough
@@elipetrou9308 twas a great series of videos
Nice Idea but please do so for the top 50 ;P
I would love to see a short where you guys do grades like this but for nonsense cards or even things that are not cards. Ham sandwich… easy A+, combos with everything.
Can you explain me what 'ham sandwich' translates to in their context? I still haven't figured it out.
@@vario6492 they sometimes say a card “combos with a ham sandwich” meaning that it can combo with basically anything, usually reserved for cards with many 2-card combos
My favorite Song of the Dryads interaction is using Vesuva to copy the permanent.
That is a so awesome 👏
That's some weird rule interaction!! Didn't know it would work
When it comes to Rhythm of the Wild a big bonus is how well it interacts with other haste enables, because if haste is important to your strategy you'll have more than one, and if you do you can just use the Riot to give the creature a counter instead.
Boros Charm is a fantastic card in a Sunforger suite, especially on a budget, that you can easily cast from your hand if you happen to draw into it
The glow up on these guys within the last year is completely insane! Well done you guys deserve to be full time content creators
This content is defo worth its weight in gold
Awwwww 🥰
It's been more than 2 years now but the wasted opportunity to call Dovin's veto "Dovin's Ban" makes me suffer every time
That would have been tops
Let’s gooo another ranking
Yeah BOII
A while ago, you guys made a statement about how removal should generally also be synergistic. Here's a good one for lands matter decks: Deathsprout. Basically a rampant growth stapled onto a removal spell, which can be extremely good for lands matter decks that have golgari colors.
Plus the art is amazing.
@@mfitkin definitely
My favorite synergistic removal is "Artifact Mutation". In an aristrocratic deck it's just generatating tokens with slowing down an opponent being gravy. The floor is destroying a signet for 2 tokens, but it often does better. Another sweet new card is "Thieving Skydiver". Would you like to steal an opponent's sol ring for 3?
Yes, please. You don't even get hate for it, because targeting the leading player is seen as a good act.
I might be a bit biased though, I really like stealing my opponents stuff. As a kid my favorite was "opponents lose x life, you gain that much life".
If only you guys had Reach, that gravy boat would’ve been in your hands.
We cannot block storm crow OR reach the gravy boat
I have to admit I really like these guys. It surprises me how many MTG YTers are actually tools. I wish there was more like these guys, definitely very informative but they arent like the "holier than thou" I know everything and am better than you for it type. Sometimes I find the humor a bit hit or miss (mainly the older stuff) but alot of it actually works because its even in their name its not supposed to be taken too literally. I dunno, I hope they keep growing. I dunno what the cap for subs are for magic but theres definitely a career to be had so I hope they get there
I use miraris wake in gishath and the ur dragon- the extra damage matters more in those decks than usual, and I often find myself having to cast gishath a few times during a game and miraris wake is one of a number of cards that enable that.
Great video. Talking about Mirari's Wake one thing I would add is you also want to make sure you are playing a creature or token themed deck so you get the maximum value of the anthem. It's definitely an A in my GW tokens deck.
I actually really like the signets, even in green, because it's similar to Rampant Growth, but you get the extra mana that turn. Let's say you Rampant Growth turn 3 and have hit all your land drops, you only have 1 mana left that turn, because the basic you searched for comes in tapped. If you Simic Signet turn 3 instead, you now have 2 mana left that turn. I know it's not a huge deal, and is only applicable if you play a lot of smaller CMC (MV now) spells, but if you're trying to utilize all your available mana each turn, I've found that the Signets help with that a lot. Three Visits is definitely way better because the searched for land enters untapped. Also, yeah it has a higher probability of getting blown up than a land, but depending on your playgroup, you might not need to worry about that as much. Just my 2 cents. Love the show, great content. :)
Im of the same opinion although it depends on the deck. Signets basically cost 1 mana as you can use them the turn you play them whereas when using green ramp you mostly don't have access to it until your next turn plus you start becoming more likely to miss land drops as well. Paying 2-3 mana to ramp a land out only to miss your next land drop anyway never feels good
Eldamri's Call is not only weird because it's one of the only instant speed tutors to the hand but it's also a strictly better version of Altar of Bone which is on the reserve list! (unless you care about the sacrifice creature part on Altar of Bone)
Loving the daily content, missing the daily descriptions of your names
Love those!
But I had hoped for a video for every color combination. I can see why you wouldn't do it tho.
If you check EDHrec, there's only 5 Azorius cards on the "top multicolor" page total, and even looking at the commanders page when you get to "Azorius Staples" there's only 11, so just not enough for a top 30!
@@NitpickingNerds yeah I went and looked....
@@NitpickingNerds so you’re saying CZcams shorts. ;)
I think what makes growth spiral so good is that early it’s (usually) just as good as a rampant growth but later on when you don’t need as much ramp it just cycles into a new card. I like the card a lót
Yeah it's pretty sweet! Explore is also nice
@@NitpickingNerds explore is sorcery!! big difference..
growth spiral has become an autoinclude in all my simic decks along with explore, scale the heights, eureka, and urban evo
Boros Charm at a C is mind blowing to me, but mainly because in the colors you're using it in (Boros), it is absolutely amazing. It does everything you want it to do, and it can sometimes snipe a low health opponent.
Love ya guys
Love you too!
you did it! thank u sm
Yet another quality video. When will you guys show us the occasional video EDH game played by you both and 2 others?
We are currently building a kickstarter campaign for gameplay!
@@NitpickingNerds Oh wow, so its a much bigger affair then. Thanks for the heads-up!
You should also take the average grade of each color and compare how each one grades against the others.
Still waiting to be paid… so excited to be a patreon in the next week or two.
We are excited to have you 🥰
Boros charm is pretty neato in feather. As i can use the offence quite often. And still have it for their turn if i absolutely need the protection from a board wipe
LOL Gold cards had me thinking you were going to grade World Championship cards (gold borders) ;p
Good lord no 😂
The new art for miraris wake is enough for me to finally play it
I run mirari’s wake late game golos when I’ve got twenty lands so I can just tap a whole bunch for his ability
You two are the true gold staples here!!
Awwww thank youuu
Wonder if Vanishing Verse will ever hit this list. Haven't had much of a chance to try it out yet.
Edit : Growth spiral has a special place in my Kalamax deck where I managed to copy it 3 times, so much value.
I did that with dig through time and fact or fiction. I won that game
I run the signets in my Naya deck for mana filtering because a lot of my mana is either coming from mana dorks or gaea’s cradle and I don’t want only green mana at one time
Boros charm is an easy B+, boardwipe protection at 2 mana with the option to use it as a killing blow is insane. And unlike teferis protection it's pretty affordable.
Would be interested to see grades for guilds i.e. golgari, azorius, rakdos etc.
Gratz beezy!
Thanks Blaze!
Growth Spiral is an Instant, so it's value after you didn't counter on the end step, that's why it's better than Explore
Boros charm can be nice in jeskai spellslinger with thousand year storm, good in a sunforger package, or in voltron based decks to one shot someone after no blocks are declared on a +11 damage commander.
The protection is a nice fail safe mode. It also protects my wallet against teferi's protections' price(it also doesn't exile itself so you can buy it back with snapcaster or tuck it with mistveil plains.)
...I just like the card okay 👀
It is a pretty good card just
I wont a video like this for each single color combination!
I only use mirari's wake in my enchantress tuvasa deck. I used to use it in my phantom deck at fnm
I think with your personalities and the way you play off each other, you'd be great at narrating edited gameplay vids like Muddstah
Re signets and how video states you don't need them in green. I use the 3 color appropriate ones in my Kadena (Sultai) deck. I also have seven other ramp spells: sol ring, arcane signet, tribe elder, three visits, nature's lore, rampant growth, and farseek. To get to 10 without signets, what would you recommend? Maybe sky shroud claim? But I really want to ramp on turn 2 so I can play Kadena on turn 3.
Kadena is one of the commanders who absolutely does want all their ramp to be in the 2 mana slot if possible, and in my opinion the Signets are good there. Though... personally I'd prefer the Talismans.
I really wanna get a miraris wake out of my mh2 box its just a beautyful card
Even as a player whose physical decks are all precons and fairly budget decks, I've been cutting Mortify and Putrefy so much. I'd rather have Naturalize or Nature's Claim for artifacts and enchantments, and Beast Within and Generous Gift aren't super expensive either. Swords is only like $3, and I even prefer Utter End to Mortify. And that's without even getting to removal on creatures. Hell, sometimes I don't even put removal in decks when I'm just trying to do a stupid 8-card combo for laughs.
merciless eviction imho is actually very relevant when you're up against one of these: graveplay, aristocrats and superfriends...or if you're up against my lockdown memnarch xD
I think the only time I’ve ever seen a Green talisman/signet be valuable is in decks piloted by Belbe, otherwise they feel so subpar often.
Hi guys, I'm building an aesi sea monsters deck, which are some must include?
The thing with ramp like signets in green decks is that its not wrong, its just not right. Like if your deck is running on 2 mana mana rocks and cultivates and explosive vegetation it isn't great, but its going to probably run fine almost all the time. So especially if you're playing in a lower power level playgroup, no shame if thats what you've got and you don't really care enough to upgrade to rampant growth and sakura-tribe elder.
Assassin's trophy really should be a $5 card tops, they gotta get reprinting that stat. Put it in some precons idc
It's interesting how hyped it was on release and how little play it really sees
Archetype staples would be cool
What grade would you give to Oversimplify?
Is there any better feeling than using Dovin's Veto on an Overloaded Cyclonic rift? Nope, there is no better feeling, it's the best.
PS: Mirari's Wake is amazing in my Tazri II deck, I can dig like 12 to 24 cards deep with her for party members, plus the deck wants to have 4 creatures on board, making the pump solid gravy.
10:08 honestly i'd play simic signet over emergent sequence, emergent sequence is basically a 2 cmc mana dork, which is awful
I would agree beezy the talimans are rock solid
The talismans are not just rock-solid. They’re mana-rock-solid.
Agreed
Rhythm of the wild is my go to card whenever I’m in gruul colours because of how many counter spells are in my playgroup.
Tell them to stop lol 😂
@@NitpickingNerds they countered my request, I had no response lol
@@DracoMagna have you tried brute force?
@@NitpickingNerds sounds good doesn’t work. Infect though, that does the trick haha
besides my mono green deck (Selvala) i have a mono blue deck (Urza)
I run Signets and Talismans in green 3 color decks. Three Visits and Nature's Lore are the only spell based ramp I run in those decks for 2 reasons. 1: I only run 9 basics/3 shocks and 2: I run all 9 fetches I can in ALL my 3 color decks (they share).
This is 21 of my lands figured out for every deck with 10-12 slots left for Gaea's Cradle, Yavimaya Hollow, Yavimaya Cradle, Command Tower, and whatever utility (or rainbow) lands I have in my other 2 colors.
Is Simic Signet worth playing in Kinnan?
I love goooolllddd!!!
It worth a lot of money
how many ramps do you ran in your greens multicolor deck that you dont use the signets and talisman ?, mine at least 12-15 plus 387-38 lands
How tf are you playing 387 lands in a 100 card deck?
@@notmyrealnamesorry3118 37-38
Merciless eviction
I mean, I'm new to the format. And maybe it's just because of the group I play with.
But I got someone who loves planeswalker decks. Another has an artifact deck that loves having artifacts in his grave. Grave recursion decks with moldrotha. I'm always looking to exile everything. And exiling all the artifacts when my buddy wants them in his grave. Yea, in our group that's a scary card. It just obliterates any of the decks that my friend groups throw out.
I see how 6 mana to take out artifacts is ehh. But its versatility for what I see being thrown out. Sometimes I'd pay 6 mana just to see 1 artifact get exiled.
*glares at sensei's devining top*
For top they just activate it in response, I’d use austere command instead unless it’s a meta call
I think assassins trophy is an A. Replace their best card with a basic? Ill take that every time.
I swear I know Beezy or at least I've met his doppelganger.
If it is him then I'm always surprised that he got so into Magic to make it his job when he didn't enjoy it when I knew him.
If you're not "Selva" then Beezy:
I've met your Australia doppelganger! XD
Dovin's veto is an A+.
As a person who loves me some golgari in EDH I never see a reason not to put Assasin's trophy in any of my deck, its the cheapest and most flexible piece of removal I can use. Their are a lot of other great removal pieces that are more influential of course like Wind grace's judgement, that is pretty much an +2 in card advantage, but it's unlikely to be as useful early game to get dem Rhystic studies and other value engines early enough to stop the blue player from winning from the raw card advantage. Also in personal experience I rarely ever encounter a game where if the player does get that extra land that it actually mattered in the long run, even against landfall decks. As the piece you are removing is typically Significant enough that the given advantage that the removed piece would have gave.
This also includes deck with other colours added to it, even with like blue, because sometimes, you are going to encounter pains in the butt that cannot be countered and cards that are reanimated by card effects as opposed to via a spell.
Also many people playing multi colour late game are unlikely to have enough basics in their decks and tend to fail to find.
The only downside is that you cannot meme in the way you can with path to exile and get rid of a thing you own and get a land out of it. So minus points for not doing the meme play I would rank it more as a A- because it pretty much an auto include in any deck regardless of if you play super comp or casual.
my favorite gold card is Ancient Excavation in ghost of ramirez DePietro
It's a really cool design. I liked that whole cycle actually
uh, excuse me, explore is sorcery speed, growth spiral is instant.. it makes a lot of difference in a control deck.
The wording on explore is play a land, then draw a card aswell. Not as good
@@evanowens7591 with explore you can play a land after drawing, the order doesn’t matter
@@evanowens7591 well, it says you can play an additional land THIS TURN, cause it's a sorcery, still worse than growth spiral since even if you manage to play explore during an opponent's turn you can't play lands that turn.
Coiling Oracle....................................... Literally the single most played and best auto-include UG card, not even mentioned. Dunks on Sakura Tribe Elder any day of the week
Dovin's Vetooooo!!
Maybe a video on best cards for politics type decks?
Assassin's Tropy with Opposition Agent out is funny.
Does a gold token count as a gold staple?
Boros charm is good!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 4 damage can kill a lot of commanders, also the indestructible is sooo good.... I do run it on my Osgir deck and it's always a dangerous card to have in hand...
Honestly I think that I haven't seen a Simic Signet until now! Hahhaha
Hey, you know what would be nice? It the audience posted their decks and you guy analyze it and make some quick suggestion on video....Maybe another person question\deck is the same that I have
Boros Charm is 4 damage to a PLAYER (or Planeswalker), not to a creature.
@@TheSilverFox442 Right!
The 4 damage only targets players and planes walkers. No worries for the mistake though dude, we all read cards and get super excited about it to then later work out oh the card does not work that way. :)
So the pool of commander's it kills is pretty limited as we don't have many commanders that are planeswalkers in the format unless your group does a homebrew rule where any walker can be your commander then my bad.
I know I do that a lot more with the old school cards. Enjoy the card myself though, especially when in a voltron deck or go wide deck.
12:15 Roast getting 'F' for 'FLAVOR'
In more ways than one...
I didn't understand the point about miraris wake. If you untap with it and you add 12 you have netted 7 mana not 1. What am I missing?
The Wake produces only the mana that’s made by it. So 6 lands means 6 made then use the code of wake 5. You can see you only bet 1 mana.
6 of that mana you would have gotten anyway without mirari's wake
@@NitpickingNerds oh I am completely stupud sorry yeah you are right thanks
@@aaroncorsini6165 you aren’t stupid 😊 just weird math
@@NitpickingNerds haha thanks yeah could've just gave it a better thought but thanks a lot for clarifying. Still a very nice card though.
SO is Arcane Signet an A+ - is that just too obvious to include?
Green producing mana rocks do get much better if your meta game is loaded with Opposition Agents.
Assassin's Trophy hits lands!!
First things first: like
explore is sorcery, growth spiral is instant.. big difference..
Before watching, hybrid should get its own category
Yes. Yes. Yes.
BEANS!
@@NitpickingNerds I am loving the daily uploads, by the way.
Thanks! Now you ALWAYS know a NN video is up each day
It's funny because as I was watching I remembered I won my last game with boros charm to face. I know it's not an argument, but it's still funny.
About fatties + haste being good: that's why I love so much my Xenagos deck! 😈
I think your take on Merciless Eviction is off. When you play with random people you tend to play against a wide variety of decks. I've run into deticated Enchantress decks, Artifact decks and that mode has come clutch. Especially when your playing a dedicated creature deck and the other modes are sometimes just to remove 1 or 2 problem cards that aren't creatures. My favorite deck is like a 8 it is a Breya, Planeswalker deck and that mode messes me up. A lot of people are into Atraxa Planeswalkers but in my opinion red is much better then green.
I was sure we'd see an episode for each color combination. I'm a little sad, tbh.
It’s weird that Dovin’s Veto is that high, considering Azorius is the least popular color pair.
It's cash money in my Ramos spell slingers deck.
Is azorius really least popular?
@@NitpickingNerds the most popular Azorius commander is Brago, ranked 51st most popular commander according to EDHRec. There was a poll that I’m trying to find…
I’m 19 seconds in, and I will be heartbroken if I don’t hear the phrase “gold standard” at least once.
Did you hear it??? I don't think we said it lol
I like merciles eviction more than you guys because a lot of decks in my meta have indestructible. Kozilek deck running ulamogs and darksteel forge, Atla decks with avacyn, green decks with heroic intervention.
Growth spiral was op in standard ngl
Appropriate ban
How come there is no vindicate? Do people really not play the best removal ever printed?
outclassed by Generous Gift I'd say
Growth spiral got banned for the sins of Uro.
Based on how you guys rate stuff It feels like there are no good aggro players in your group. You need to find the person who kills on turn 5 with beats
You should rename with (For now)
Bring back subtitles
Rankmaxxing
What was that 2:59
The Joe Cherries puberty
Okay but the mystical archive putrefy has cool art but definitely a better modern/standard card
The art is soooo good
@@NitpickingNerds I know the man is being P U T R E F I E D
I don't like Deathrite Shaman. (you asked for it)