1 Year Later: Pros & Cons Of The Magnuson Supercharger On A Toyota Tundra PLUS An Unboxing!
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I’ve had the TRD unit dealer installed on my Tacoma for 10 years and have not had A SINGLE problem with it. Extremely impressive build quality. My buddy has the same unit on his tundra. Completely bulletproof.
Is the mpg the same as tundradude or does the trd model improve? How much were they?
I have a Magnuson on my 2016-TRD-Pro-4RUNNER , no issues, feels like a V-8
What's your MPG with the supercharger?
LOVE LOVE LOVE my supercharger! Cruises at 80-90 like most cars handle 60. Drove from KY to Sparks/Myrtle Beach to have it installed. Zero regrets.
Yea its awesome
Ryan Van Daniker what was the install cost?
TheJalopy80 i think it was around $1250
Hey guys, Don at Sparks said I needed a UniChip to tune the SC for my Land Cruiser. Does the Tundra require this also? Thanks
Agree. My son and I installed the TRD unit in my 2011 4WD Rock Warrior a few years ago. Still enjoying it every time I drive it, and it's great off-road in the back country.
I paid $6100 installed - by Sparks. The price has gone way up. 65k reliable miles. Pushing 611hp to flywheel with 4.88 posi. I got 15.7 mpg prior to BD tuner - avg. 13.4 mpg post tuner. My 2WD truck weighs about 5500 lbs.
What size tires?
Thanks for the review. $7,000 + $1,500 install!?!? WOW! That’s a lot of money! My 2012 Tundra Platinum already has a great sound and sensitive/fast acceleration. I can live with a little sluggish acceleration when passing cars. But for that much money I better get at least 50 mpg! LOL. Good review!
Yep...these 5.7 v8 have already plenty of power. 380 hp & 400 lbs. Yeah plenty of power. $7000 for part & $1400 for a labor...? P/u trucks & SUV & 4Runners are already expensive and overpriced.
Just wait patiently till housing bubble and a used car market bubble explodes.
It's coming. This can't continue like this.
There will be great deals on new and used cars coming.
okay, if magnuson has taken the TRD name i guess it should include all the design details as well , maybe the parts sources from japan and such.. so magnuson should be able to reduce costs on the units due to the previous owners quantity of produced parts. 7k is taken from consumers when a new product is launched.. the TRD product was a solid product which is why toyota issued a warranty for the install..
Magnuson was always the manufacture of the TRD piece. They didn't acquire it from TRD.
I envy you. It must feel good to have extra $10k to invest on truck. One of these days I’ll save enough to do it on my 2014 Tundra.
you are killing me. wanted a tundra but realized at the very last second (truck arrived at the lot and was ready for pick up) that a 4runner was better for my family (based on your test drive of the 4runner; bought it same time as those videos). Ended up with a 2018 4runner TRD Off-Road Premium and was going back and forth about the Mag SC. now this video comes up. I guess it is fate.
Good news, Magnuson has a supercharger available for the 4runner now 👍🏼
I actually traded my 2012 Tundra for a 2017 TRD Off Road Premium 4Runner. About to pull the trigger on a Magnuson SC. Been on the fence for 6 months, but I'm ready now.
Let me know what u think!
Looks like the Magnuson SC's for the 5th gen late model 4runners are currently on back order. Local shops that have them in stock are marking them up because you would not have to wait. Guess I'll be waiting. I'm going to use a local speed shop that's an authorized Magnuson reseller/installer do my install, maybe if I am nice they'll let me film it...
What would be awesome is a 4Runner with the 5.7 and the Supercharger! TRD built a Taco this way as a pet project... But the trans tunnel was a major hurdle and was only an experiment. Still way cool though!
Good video. I agree with the cons. I will say on my 17 FFV CM, my computer and manual MPG calculations are in agreement....I average around 12 before and after SC.
Most of the time I know horse power increase does equal better gas mileage but my average mileage went from 12.5 to 13 mpg overall. Checked after 75 fill ups. Also before the super charger when I was pulling 22 ft trAiler I was 8 to 9 mph. Over the same route to trailer park I was up at 9.3 to 10 mpg after 11 fill ups. Sometimes the increase air volume over the RPM range can provide more efficiency. I drive conservative most of the time to get as good a fuel mileage as I can.
5 ads in this video! my god youtube making this almost unwatchable. Good thing TundraDude is awesome :)
Aaron Clayton this isn’t CZcams, it’s tundradude. Once a creator hits the 10 minute mark on a video, then they can opt to put ads in the middle of their video. More ads=more income.
Wow,does this mean tundra dude is a dick?
Found this video exactly 1 year later 😮
Carl Edwards just creeping in the background there haha 😂
Love all your videos man ty for helping all of us.
I appreciate that!
Best shop I ever dealt with installing superchargers and tuning has been Jerry’s Speed Shop in fords,nj and he’s a magnuson dealer as well great prices and quality work got tired of going to all these other speed shops in New Jersey because they talk a good game but will empty your pockets in a second and don’t get what you want
I wish I was seating where you are seating...what do you think about that
Awsome video!!!
thanks for the video, hows the supercharger after 5 years? still got the truck?
Best purchase I made this weekend 👍 need one in cement if you ever have options for color matching
Great idea!
How do you know that Magnusson will have your back? Did you have any warranty issues/claims with them?
40k a year(30k from that is a trailer pull) stops me from buying supercharger.
this truck becomes literally golden after 5 year period.
in canada we have 93octane=around $1.50
(b) take care man
You need to start renting out the supercharger experience out to fans. Pick you price pick your time.
I just got my bran new 2020 tundra pro, and all I want to do is get the Magnuson supercharger in it, and I can't do it yet, since my trucks too new, and manufacturers are always a couple years behind. They don't have one available yet for the 2020. Even though toyota has used the same 5.7 for ages now.. i just found out that I'm going to have to wait for it 😔
I just recently purchased a 2014 Tundra Limited with 68k+ miles does that mileage matter for putting on the supercharger? Love this channel super informative and I love my Tundra truck!
Ive seen people install an SC with a lot of miles. Your best bet is to have a mechanic do a full once over on the truck and all the components to make sure its in good enough shape for a supercharger. Im sure youll be fine
TundraDude34 awesome thank you again!
Hey Dude... liked the Magnuson low down. Quick question, diggin your seats! Who makes them? Thanks
They are standard on a platinum tundra
How about the transmission, shifting down, etc?
My 4Runner shifts out of 5th a lot. I pull it down to 4th so it won't hunt until I crest a hill.
Just wondering with the additional power if you find it climbs hills in 5th or still down shifts.
Thanks
I'm new here! I'm about to buy a 2004 tundra with 150k miles. It has a magnusun supercharger and looks clean. What would you guys pay for it? He was asking 14k and is down to 12,500.
hell yeah that is an awesome price. i know its too late but Toyota trucks hold their values
How's it for towing? : ) Seriously, the noise will probably be quite loud if you got a couple/few tons behind it.... Thnx for the update TD34....keep it going!
I tow a travel trailer with mine. It's not noisier than any other truck.
@@pjames4413 how does it tow your travel trailer and how much does it weigh?
I had a Magnuson SC installed on my 2017 Limited Crewmax at 60k miles. Magnuson did the tune (installer emailed them
my stock tune, Magnuson recoded it, emailed it back, and installer uploaded it to the truck). Gobs of power now and very smooth, but - A couple of issues I thought you may have some insight/advice on: (1) in tow/haul, shifts normally if I am not in the throttle hard, otherwise if I romp it from a dead stop, won’t come out of first gear - like the programming is trying to protect from a hard upshift, and (2) I get a lot of pause/slack between shifts at full throttle (again, like the programming is set up to protect the trans a little too much). I know yours is tuned via Bully Dog. Any comments on these two issues, and can I tune via Bully Dog myself, or would an installer/dyno shop need to do that? I am a typical shade tree mechanic and can do a fair amount of my own work. Thanks a lot and great channel.
When will the Mag SC be available with Bully Dog Tune for 2018's..the Safety sense is giving them issues...tried to call and could not get thru..any help would be great.
Just watched your vid and I will be purchasing the supercharger, I also like your seats where did you get them.
Did you Dyno both before and after to confirm 150hp? I have seen elsewhere closer to 80hp with Dyno proof.
Finding the installer is the reason I didn't or haven't gotten 1 yet. Toyota dealer in Vegas wanted to charge me 7,000 dollars to install .
There has to be cheaper options in vegas. It would blow my mind if not. Maybe consider driving to Phx or maybe even SLC. Prob avaoid Cali due to all their regulations but i dont know that for fact.
Sounds they were wanting you to buy them a supercharger as well!
Yeah, something is off in that deal. I'm pretty sure they were including the Supercharger in that cost and probably forgot to price the install kit portion of the job... The SC and install kit is sold separately.
Also, for way less than that money they wanted, you could ship the truck to Sparks and have them do it.
First like first comment maybe your next mod should be led Interior lights from headlight revolution
Im on the fence. My interior lighting is good to go right now
Thanks. Again helpful.
Thanks.
Any thoughts on the Harrop Tvs2600? Seems like a bigger brother to the TRD/Mag supercharger. 3yr warranty, 36k miles. $8k
I've been looking at that and the pending Whipple 2900 but I'd be worried more about who's going to install the Harrop here in the USA... And where you'll source all the other parts. The Me Magnuson unit is complete top to bottom.
should i rebuild my 2006 toyota seqouia engine before i get this supercharger? is at 220k. 4wd.
When you gotta get that Baconater 🍔 🤣
Did you say $100 to fill up? What are y’all’s prices? It’s under $55 in Texas to fill up on 91
A big question for me is sure the mpg on the dash is off no biggie. But! The estimate in the dash as the truck is running low on fuel does it still give you a fairly decent idea say within the last 1/8 to 1/4 tank of gas as to when you will run out of gas in X amount of miles? At full tank I’m sure that number is off but what about near empty? Does that make sense?
To the wheel the 4runner has 245 to 250 hp to the wheel dyno tested. With a super charger. Itll put out the 150hp but it's not what ur wheels will seem it's more like 80hp gain
Which is substantially better, bring the 4runner to 330 hp. If u want more power and torque onto of the 4runner, bring up the gear ratios to 4.56 from the stock 3.73. And then add in the gas peddle tunner chip.
Hey bud do you think a DAP tune helps the super charger?
Do these two relate?
People seem to love DAP in any configuration, including the SC
Question, I'm back in the driver's seat of a new 19 Tundra Limited Crew Max. I'm basically building the same truck as I had before ( 07' SR5 DC ) but I wanted to supercharge this one. Now after researching, finding out TRD no longer makes one and Magnuson doesn't have a kit for 18' and newer what other options or news coming out about the availability of a super charger for the 18+ 5.7L?
Why you got rid of the 07 😞😒😞😒😞 I own 08 and not going for a new 1. 07 and 08 are the best ones...
Were you able to tow anything as of yet with the supercharger?
Have a 2004 Tacoma prerunner with the TRD supercharger (magnason) and I have beat the shit out of it all it’s life. Only problems is that it pings sooooo bad, even with 91 octane which is all I put, at about 70mph at a grade
get a new tune
Do you know of an increase of MPG's when running 35's or 37's? I'd think it'd improve from the increased mass and weight of the tires.
Funny
What's funny? Makes the vehicle work easier. I gained a few mpg's after re-gearing.
Have you had any success in life with that logic?
I was thinking the same. Even 31 to 33 or 35 on hwy it would effect the gearing and mph
Does the tvs1900 work w/ 2018 tundra? Thanks DUDE.......... radical channel.
The actual supercharger will work just fine, the issue is there is still no software for the 2018 and 2019 models. My suggestion is email sales@sparksparts.com and see if they came out with any yet
Ok you say 93 octane. My question is I currently only run zero ethanol fuel. 93 octane has ethanol right? Or is a non-ethanol 93 available?
Great video. I'm still curious with long term reliability. With all forced induction systems (including turbochargers), the engine internals will be exposed to higher pressures and temperatures, which will of course affect the longevity of the engine. It’s best to build the engine from the bottom up to handle these pressures, rather than relying on stock internals. Not to say the 5.7 can't handle it but if I had a supercharger, I would use high quality gas and oil. Definitely not the 0W20 oil recommendation for the stock engine.
What oil do you recommend
TundraDude34 given you live in the Northeast, I recommend you go with a good synthetic 0W30 oil. Im sure there will be a lot of opinions about this and I will just share you mine. 0W20 oil is a stout oil and is a good oil for the majority of engines but when it comes to the nature of high performance engines, a heavier weight provides better protection. A lot of the light oils (x-20 or even 0W16) manufacturers use it to increase gas mileage. When it comes to the brand of oil on my vehicles with HO engines (Harley and my 370Z and past vehicles), I am biased. I use Redline Oil. When my Toyota Care is over, my Tundra will get Redline 0W20 due to the heat in Texas and the amount of towing I do. Redline 0W20 is like a light xW-30 due to It's HTHS (High Temperature High Shear) of 2.9. I highly recommend this oil if you rather stick to a 0W20. I do not put it in my wife's Acura because I feel it's overkill. It's not a cheap oil. I think I just gave you my 50 cents instead of 2 cents. I just wouldn't use 0W20 in the 5.7 that is putting out about 550hp and 550lb-ft torque with a supercharger.
I had a 2013 Honda accord that reccomended 0-20w. Every oil change, it was about 1 quart low. It didnt smoke, no gasket issues. Honda said "they dont know where the oil is going." Point being, not so much a fan of the thin stuff. I would think especially in a higher compression engine like a v8.
Installed a TRD supercharger (almost the same) on my tundra @ 33k. It is now at 120k and runs smooth as ever. Transmission is still solid. Run Mobile 1 0-20
Steven Piaia thanks for the information on transmission health and engine oil used
I don’t understand why Toyota couldn’t put forged rods and pistons in there from the factory and just charge a little bit more for the truck so that it would remain bulletproof with the supercharger in the long run. Not saying that it isn’t reliable with the supercharger, but it’s a little disappointing that Toyota discontinued the SC because of lowered reliability issues instead of fixing the reliability issues instead.
Can you use a supercharger to improve fuel economy?
It's complicated. You can get more power out of a engine with a turbo or supercharger. If you merely bolt them on it will cost you fuel, but you get extra power. If you design a whole smaller engine to meet the power needs, you can get fuel savings, but usually at the expense of additional maintenance and or shorter engine life, because the engine works harder and hotter. You can even add both to an engine. It's a good recipe for small light cars that only need their max. power occasionally. But the harder you use your truck, the more you want displacement and not a super or turbo charger. But like all things the technology continually gets better and engineers get more clever. It's kinda like gas vs. diesel. Gas trucks are typically more fun to drive. Diesels are more expensive, get better fuel economy and have more torque. So they are better for work, IF you need the pulling power.
Eagle's Nest
That whole thing about a smaller turbocharged or supercharged engine working harder and not lasting longer doesn’t seem to apply to Toyota. I’ve got a 30yo turbocharged MR2 and a 25yo turbocharged Celica and both have a quarter of a million miles on them and the engines are very healthy. The 2.0L 3S-GTE engines were extremely overbuilt. They’re just insanely robust engines. And they’re only 2.0 Liters and making 300+whp
Did you do an exhaust? Do you have headers?
Nice
Thanks for a great vid!! What is your sense of this accelerating wear and tear on engine and transmission?
I don’t think it’ll be a problem. As long as you properly maintain the engine and transmission.
Heading down to jersey tomorrow 👌🏻😎
Where to?
Seaside heights for a couple days
I run there everyday 👍🏼
Awesome I’ll have to keep an eye out haha
Lol what hotel u gonna be at?
Hi TundraDude34, have you been able to verify from your Toyota or Magnusson sources if you can put the supercharger on the new 2019 Tundra Platinum?
Last i heard they are just waiting on a tune. Contact sales@sparksparts.com for an update
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Great videos. Quick question about the supercharger - how does it affect the towing capacity? I tow a large travel trailer, and am wondering how the supercharger would affect towing, good or bad ? Thanks
I dont think it would hurt it. Ill research it and see what i come up with
I recently looked into this. Tow capacity CANNOT be increased from a simple upgrade. The truck needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. Starting at the frame... So you should NOT trust that your truck can tow more, simply because it has more power.
Towing capacity is going to be limited by your frame and suspension, transmission/drivetrain components, brakes, and engine, and in that order. Do yourself a favor and don't try to exceed your factory rating, even though you now have more power. It COULD be ok... until it isn't.
Towing capacity isn't increased and will have the same payload rating. It'll make pulling the trailer easier due to more available power.
I’m used to no ads but this video had 4 ads. 😕
Ha. That’s better MPG then I get with a stock motor on 35s. I’m getting like 10....
i wish you would do a test with trailer pull mpg
Do you have a coupon for a jeep
What's the mpg on it after super charged?
🙄
have you bully dog programmed it yet? Did you ever consider a Turbo charger instead of a supercharger?
Not really. The supercharger is a more reliable option, and Magnuson is a great company.
Wonder if you gotta change the compression to run a Turbo. More plumbing and custom exhaust needed as well. Would run a ton more expensive to Turbo vs SC.
Turbocharging a 5.7 Tundra can be done but they are not the turn key, check engine light free installation and reliability of the SC.
I love your videos, but I have several questions. Is it true that installing a supercharger would kill the engine faster (it will not be reliable over time) and can I theoretically install a switch on the dashboard to turn off the supercharger in the summertime? if no why? Thank you so much
Super charger is belt driven off of.the crank, and is also bolted in place of.the upper air plenum. So in short absolutely not , you can not turn it on and off... You can however drive it easy and not keep your foot in it it will not effect your engine. But being.that the 4.0 is damn near bullet proof I wouldn't worry about it. Hope this helps
How is it now?
Still awesome
No track time slips???
I’d like to see you put the stock tires back on and do the mpg thing over. I can’t get good mileage now either since I switched to the bfg’s.
What were your numbers before BFG and after? I switched to the BFGs immediately so I'm curious. Stock setup on my long distance travels im getting 17mpg avg and i regularly go through multiple mountain ranges on my travels. If i hypermile i can beat that but that 17 is with normal driving. City is a whole different beast but im getting 15 in city (taking it easy).
Jons TundraLife 18.8 was my avg. to 15-16.
My bfgs were put on before delivery
@@patrickroberts5838 Damn. That's pretty significant. Maybe I should throw mine back on while the weather is still good to test that. Hmmm
Jons TundraLife I’ll be putting the stock tires on after hunting season long story short 👍🏻
Hey I have a 2008 tundra I did suspension, CAI and rims but want to do exhaust but am afraid it will be obnoxious and loud I don’t want that but want the deep rumble and the performance any suggestions?
Check out Dirtydeedsindustry BAM mufflers 👍
Where can I get one installed in New England. And no, not for $7000. Thanks Dude.
See if one of your local Yota dealer will do it. If not, Magnuson has a list of approved install shops throughout the country
Can I test drive it lol u can keep my stock platinum lol
great video Too many adds
What oil do you have to use now with the S/C? Thicker but what size?
Did you get a tune dyno after install?
Yes you have to have it tuned. You don't just slap it on and go.
Still think my 15 tundra trd pro is a rough ride lol. Super charger or not
U didnt add a rear sway bar correct?
TundraDude34 your videos are amazing with good solid information. I have recently stumbled upon them though these videos are from 5 years ago. I would like to chat with you offline regarding Magnuson Super Charger. Can I get your email?
Any comment on the sound quality with TRD dual exhaust?
The sound is unbelievable. Great deep tone without being obnoxious
@@TundraDude34 Thanks! Just purchased the dual with black tips. Love the deep tone as you say not obnoxious!
So supercharger is just a bunch of money followed by more money.
Isnt The TRD super charger around the same price?
TRD Supercharger is built by Magnuson...but TRD discontinued the SC in 2015 so they're no longer built under the TRD brand. The Magnuson SC wasn't available in any other way than the TRD label up to 2015 and they reworked the milling making it look different going forward. The down side to the Magnuson is that Toyota no longer will unlock the ECU so you have to use a piggyback tuner now. I've had a 2008 and a 2011 both supercharged using TRD and my 2016 was Magnuson using the piggyback Uni-Chip POS tuner and the TRD with factory flash was much better. I don't know if it's been improved as I was one of the first to do this back then but that was my experience. I now have a 2019 Platinum which I want done but it doesn't seem to be covered at all.
If i get the mag sc for flex fuel do i still have to run premium fuel or can i run reg
Run premium play it safe
10/4
Yolo
Totally
Must have alot of money
I worked hard to get that thing. Definitely not cheap
@@TundraDude34 I work 2 jobs a full time college student and I'm so jealous, I love tundras
Keep grinding! One day, you’ll have it 👍🏼 hard work pays off
Oh know .30 a gallon more for premium gas and worse fuel economy for 150 HORSE POWER OVER STOCK!🙄
Ill take the gas bill for how much that truck moves 🤙🏼
0-60?
Did you say $7000
Plus installation...
Punch yourselves in the nutz every time you hear SUPERCHARGER!!!!!!!!
Lol
Honestly though, i would (along with Magnuson) recommend professional installation with the supercharger. Protect your Magnuson warranty. I had a Toyota Master Tech do mine
Just picking I was close to buying a SC for my 2012 tacoma and never concidered letting anyone install it.but I am from SC .lol