I just routed the cables trough my Yoeleo handlebars... and it is definitely a bit of a trick and not easy, but using this method it went pretty smoothly. I some cheap bike cables instead of the trimmer line, worked nicely too. Thank you so much Steven!! who know how I would have managed it without your trick, since the inside of the handlebars is very rough.
Thank you so much for this video Steven! That went very smooth. Spoiler alert for the next video, on my Yoeleo R12 frame, I tried pushing the cables trough the frame and it went effortlessly without any tools. The hard part is the handlebars.
Yep. Hint. Put some of that fancy wax on the outer cable body before pushing through the bars. Just clean up afterward. Maybe set them in the sun for a few mins.
going to probably be ordering my self the r12 here in the next few days. I was really tempted by the specail edition color but it was just to much of a price diffrence so I will probably just end up with red just like your build. for the wheels I did decide on light bicycle with some dt swiss 240s as they have a specail running for them.
thanks for the video its a good reminder to never EVER even LOOK at any bicycle product with IRC. in fact, i think i'll go dremel out the cable tunnels on the Campy 11-speed shifters Hint/trick: rout the cables OUTSIDE of the handlebars and stem, and glue on cable stops on the outside of the bike frame. ok, ok, i'm just kidding. what you should do instead is just throw every component with IRC into the firepit and call in an air-to-ground missile strike
yeah that is what yoeleo promised me as well, that they would find a fix, but I am still skeptical. but as Steven demonstrates, it might not be that easy, but it is hardly a nightmare.
@oz cycle I have just found out that you can route your Canyon aeroad fully internal with the Specialized Venge 2019 compression ring ( minus the front brake ) I hope you try it out
I would never opt for internal cable routing through the bars or stem. Those areas of exposed cables has never ever been an issue. The only cables that were exposed that I did not like were the ones that flowed externally down the downtube. I'm seeing posts were Folks are having problems caused by the designs of internal routing through bars and stems, problems like frames cracking and more. To me, I think this also puts crimping stresses on hydraulic lines which can't be good, these hydraulic brakes barely work as it is.
Hello sir, I was wondering how those handlebars of held up through the last couple of years I'm thinking about getting some integrated bars and I want to know your take on those I would really appreciate a response letting me know how you enjoyed those handlebars. The quality of the Chinese bars is very important to me and want to make a good decision. I was thinking about getting that same type of bar and a 44 cm buy 110 mm. Thank you, Alex Sagastume of Modesto, CA USA
They're, still going well, no probs. I got Yoeleo integrated bar on gravel bike too , going just fine. Yeh the quality of Chinese carbon production is really good nowadays.
Sure i also like the clean look-BUT it’s a pain in the ass..... For watt savings there are many other (and cheaper!) possibilities! Also i try to avoid plastic crap as far a possible,because it is toxic waste! My titanium frames - i got two identical ones run since 2004 without any problems,they don’t fatigue,are easy to clean and i can drop a hammer on it without even scratching it.... You should try one of those,the riding performance is just incredible,and my focus is on the bad roads i mostly ride. And when i’m dead and gone they can just turn them into other stuff like airplanes,tools etc Keep the fire burning 🔥 🤙
What is the best way to do this when you just want to install an integrated bar? So with all cables already installed inside your frame and all you want to do is route the cables through the new integrated bar?
@@stevenleffanue I am surprised to hear that the Canyon is not comfortable. I do not own one, but was looking at a few of their bikes and am considering getting one. Of course, I can't try one out. Is there something particular about the bike, that makes it less comfortable? Which one (exactly) do you own? I am looking at the Endurace CF SL Disc 8.0. Do you think that one will be less comfortable then a Yoeleo? Nothing bad about Yoeleo either. Just asking.
I have the Aeroad and its a great bike. It has race geometry which gives it a more aggressive feel. The Yoeleo r6 is slightly more relaxed and I prefer it for longer rides.
@@hansvanmeer8395 Hey Hans, if you want a convenient option, than canyon is a good price/quality ratio. Can't go wrong there. But there are also good deals at shops like mantel or math salden (from your name I presume you have access to those shops, I could be wrong thou) If you go for the yoeleo route, it is much more of a project, much more ownership and more interesting, but certainly not as convenient. imho Comfort does not depend on the brand, but on the fit and the type of bike. The canyon endurance is designed to be comfortable at the correct size, it will allow you to output more power for longer if your body is not used to the aggressive position on a full on racebike like the aeroad.
Hi, Steven! Assume we have integrated bars installed, brake hoses precisely cut and filled with oil. Everything is fine. Then comes a moment to cut a fork steerer tube which is better done with a fork completely removed. Obviously there's no way to avoid disconnecting the brake hoses from the levers (at least the front one) and rebleeding the system afterwards. Is it ok to reconnect a hose to a lever without cutting it and fitting with a new olive/insert?
Measure yourself to the frameset first or do a short test ride in a safe carpark ..that should get the steerer size in the ballpark. Yes you can remove hydraulic lines if need to and plug them back in again....put some grease on the olives.
Hi, can you explain why you used the steel cables on the right side of the bar (for rear shifter and brakes) whereas the trimmer line on the left side of the bar (for the front shifter and brakes)?
oz cycle I mean when you put steel wires through cable sheathings and hydraulic brake lines to thread through the openings in the integrated bar. But I guess initial brake fluid flushing should take care of that.
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@@stevenleffanue thanks ive faced too much challenge trying to make the housing go through the bar and had it installed skipping the handlebar. Geez its a bad design
@@stevenleffanue I mean in any rim brake frames? Because the other integrated handlebar and stem that I've searched has a compatibility specification with the headtube and fork steerer tube. Another thing, so it will looked like the cabling of a pinarello dogma f12 of team ineos?
Hey there, in need help. I am also currently assembling my R12 frameset. Because of the missing assemblyinstructions i need to know wich bearing of the headset is the upper and wich one is the lower? One is a little higher and one a little lower. I would greatly apprechiate a point in the right direction!
@@stevenleffanue thanks for your answer. I would post a photograph if i could. 1 have 2 diffrent bearings. One with black seal and one with red seal. The red one is slightly higher. Also the cone on the one end is slightly higher. Also I am not sure if the headset is supposed to miss the micro adjust washer for the upper bearing.
I wish I'd seen this sooner. Great tutorial.
Hands down the best tips on internal handlebar cable routing on the internet! Instead of screws and washers I used terminal strips, also worked great.
Thanks Oz! Clamping the end with bult and washers is a trick that ive never heard of. It should be rewarded with a Nobel Prize.
👍💕
WOW! Perfectly explained vs all the other hit/miss videos online. Thank you!
I just routed the cables trough my Yoeleo handlebars... and it is definitely a bit of a trick and not easy, but using this method it went pretty smoothly. I some cheap bike cables instead of the trimmer line, worked nicely too.
Thank you so much Steven!! who know how I would have managed it without your trick, since the inside of the handlebars is very rough.
Thank you so much for this video Steven! That went very smooth.
Spoiler alert for the next video, on my Yoeleo R12 frame, I tried pushing the cables trough the frame and it went effortlessly without any tools. The hard part is the handlebars.
You're always the best!! 🙌👍
Great idea clamping inner guide wires to enable pulling thro outer's, as always excellent presentation thanks
Yep. Hint. Put some of that fancy wax on the outer cable body before pushing through the bars.
Just clean up afterward. Maybe set them in the sun for a few mins.
going to probably be ordering my self the r12 here in the next few days. I was really tempted by the specail edition color but it was just to much of a price diffrence so I will probably just end up with red just like your build. for the wheels I did decide on light bicycle with some dt swiss 240s as they have a specail running for them.
wow such great advice. you are an absolute legend!
Sure like the clean look. Always wanted to see a video on this.
Thank you for your video very informative 👍
thanks for the video
its a good reminder to never EVER even LOOK at any bicycle product with IRC.
in fact, i think i'll go dremel out the cable tunnels on the Campy 11-speed shifters
Hint/trick: rout the cables OUTSIDE of the handlebars and stem, and glue on cable stops on the outside of the bike frame.
ok, ok, i'm just kidding.
what you should do instead is just throw every component with IRC into the firepit and call in an air-to-ground missile strike
class video thanks
Nice video! Some good tips there... hopefully I have the easier to thread handlebars when mine turns up. 🙏
yeah that is what yoeleo promised me as well, that they would find a fix, but I am still skeptical. but as Steven demonstrates, it might not be that easy, but it is hardly a nightmare.
CyclingMilan yeah it’s a bit of a faff but to be fair, it’s not overly hard, just a bit of patience as with most internal threading. 👍
@@KyrosHouseCycling Yeah I don't want to speak to early (who knows which issues I will run into) but from now it looks totally worth it!
CyclingMilan absolutely!
@oz cycle I have just found out that you can route your Canyon aeroad fully internal with the Specialized Venge 2019 compression ring ( minus the front brake ) I hope you try it out
Wish I’d seen this sooner 😢
Amazing
Thank you so much!
Very good video
I would never opt for internal cable routing through the bars or stem. Those areas of exposed cables has never ever been an issue. The only cables that were exposed that I did not like were the ones that flowed externally down the downtube. I'm seeing posts were Folks are having problems caused by the designs of internal routing through bars and stems, problems like frames cracking and more. To me, I think this also puts crimping stresses on hydraulic lines which can't be good, these hydraulic brakes barely work as it is.
Hello sir, I was wondering how those handlebars of held up through the last couple of years I'm thinking about getting some integrated bars and I want to know your take on those I would really appreciate a response letting me know how you enjoyed those handlebars. The quality of the Chinese bars is very important to me and want to make a good decision. I was thinking about getting that same type of bar and a 44 cm buy 110 mm. Thank you, Alex Sagastume of Modesto, CA USA
They're, still going well, no probs. I got Yoeleo integrated bar on gravel bike too , going just fine. Yeh the quality of Chinese carbon production is really good nowadays.
@stevenleffanue Thank you very much for the response. It's much appreciated. Have a great day!
Go Oz Crew !
I’m watching this just wondering how it will travel next time for TDU.
Hi 👋 brother ihave canyon ultimate cf sl but ineed chane potence 10 mm so size fork so large
Very detailed video, will it work for Winspace T1500 bar?
Principle is same for all integrated bars to frames
@@stevenleffanue thank you very much for the reply. Take care, ride safe…
Sure i also like the clean look-BUT it’s a pain in the ass.....
For watt savings there are many other (and cheaper!) possibilities!
Also i try to avoid plastic crap as far a possible,because it is toxic waste! My titanium frames - i got two identical ones run since 2004 without any problems,they don’t fatigue,are easy to clean and i can drop a hammer on it without even scratching it....
You should try one of those,the riding performance is just incredible,and my focus is on the bad roads i mostly ride.
And when i’m dead and gone they can just turn them into other stuff like airplanes,tools etc
Keep the fire burning 🔥 🤙
What is the best way to do this when you just want to install an integrated bar? So with all cables already installed inside your frame and all you want to do is route the cables through the new integrated bar?
You can try threading the cables thru the bar but it's much easier to go thru the bar first then the frame.
Hi Steven, I never see you ride on your Canyon anymore. How do you feel about this bike and how does it compare to the Yoeleo R9 and R12?
Canyon gets ridden Sundays. R6 is more comfortable than Canyon. Not tried r9 or r12 yet
@@stevenleffanue I am surprised to hear that the Canyon is not comfortable. I do not own one, but was looking at a few of their bikes and am considering getting one. Of course, I can't try one out. Is there something particular about the bike, that makes it less comfortable? Which one (exactly) do you own? I am looking at the Endurace CF SL Disc 8.0. Do you think that one will be less comfortable then a Yoeleo? Nothing bad about Yoeleo either. Just asking.
I have the Aeroad and its a great bike. It has race geometry which gives it a more aggressive feel. The Yoeleo r6 is slightly more relaxed and I prefer it for longer rides.
@@hansvanmeer8395 Hey Hans, if you want a convenient option, than canyon is a good price/quality ratio. Can't go wrong there. But there are also good deals at shops like mantel or math salden (from your name I presume you have access to those shops, I could be wrong thou)
If you go for the yoeleo route, it is much more of a project, much more ownership and more interesting, but certainly not as convenient. imho
Comfort does not depend on the brand, but on the fit and the type of bike. The canyon endurance is designed to be comfortable at the correct size, it will allow you to output more power for longer if your body is not used to the aggressive position on a full on racebike like the aeroad.
Good video sir ... can specialized Venge 2020 bike load the cable if I use a mechanical ultegra instead of DI2, thank you success
Its designed for di2. To fit mechanical you would need to widen cable outlet holes on bars and frame.
Hi, Steven! Assume we have integrated bars installed, brake hoses precisely cut and filled with oil. Everything is fine. Then comes a moment to cut a fork steerer tube which is better done with a fork completely removed. Obviously there's no way to avoid disconnecting the brake hoses from the levers (at least the front one) and rebleeding the system afterwards. Is it ok to reconnect a hose to a lever without cutting it and fitting with a new olive/insert?
Measure yourself to the frameset first or do a short test ride in a safe carpark ..that should get the steerer size in the ballpark.
Yes you can remove hydraulic lines if need to and plug them back in again....put some grease on the olives.
@@stevenleffanue Thank you once again for sharing the knowledge. We follow your steps!
What handlebar compatible with yoeleo r11 expect h9 and h10?? How about elves orome handle its light and aero it will fit r11?
R11 comes with integrated bar to suit. Don't know about Elves.
@@stevenleffanue which is light h9 or h10 handlebar?
Not sure. I think it's the H9 that goes with the R11 frameset.
now im mess up my own cable
Hi, can you explain why you used the steel cables on the right side of the bar (for rear shifter and brakes) whereas the trimmer line on the left side of the bar (for the front shifter and brakes)?
Just to show you can use either
Hi Oz, how long total(m) for brake outer and shifter outer takes?
Looking to grab some of these bars for my bike. What specific spacers do I need to route my cables into the frame?
Frame head tube and headset needs to be compatable. Spacers come with the bars
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pode nos passar o link para comprar o guidão?
www.yoeleobike.com/products/h9-carbon-road-bike-integrated-handlebar
@@stevenleffanue valeu demais
Im wondering how is shifting performance thru integrated bars/headtube compared to R6 frame (normal handlebars)?
No noticeable difference...done 6,500km now and no problems with gear shifting.
Is there a risk of contamination by running wires through hydraulic brake lines?
Di2 wires?
oz cycle I mean when you put steel wires through cable sheathings and hydraulic brake lines to thread through the openings in the integrated bar.
But I guess initial brake fluid flushing should take care of that.
Oh I see. Its fine,just dont use dirty or rusty wire
It`s possible in caad13 rim break version I want integrated wire in front?
Impossible.
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Which handlebar is?
How did you place the cable housing for front derailleur? Im lost there
Its the left side innermost cable
@@stevenleffanue thanks ive faced too much challenge trying to make the housing go through the bar and had it installed skipping the handlebar. Geez its a bad design
Do you have any noises inside the handlebar during turns?
No its fine
whats the brand of handlebar?
Yoeleo
@@stevenleffanue any links?
You clean/lube road lever?
You can....carefully. Silicone or ptfe spray works well
what handlebar is this?
It's the older Yoeleo model. They have a new improved one now.
is this compatible with rim brake frames?
Yes. The front brake cable however will exit under the bar instead of going thru the fork steerer.
@@stevenleffanue I mean in any rim brake frames? Because the other integrated handlebar and stem that I've searched has a compatibility specification with the headtube and fork steerer tube.
Another thing, so it will looked like the cabling of a pinarello dogma f12 of team ineos?
You will need to match steerer size and larger headtube to accomodate cabling
@@stevenleffanue you're not using an electronic groupset, does the shifting quality suffers by all those internal cable routing?
Watts the Name of the Bar?
Yoeleo
What handlebars is this?
Yoeleo integrated
Hey there, in need help. I am also currently assembling my R12 frameset.
Because of the missing assemblyinstructions i need to know wich bearing of the headset is the upper and wich one is the lower? One is a little higher and one a little lower. I would greatly apprechiate a point in the right direction!
Not sure what you mean?....both bearings are the same height on mine
@@stevenleffanue thanks for your answer. I would post a photograph if i could. 1 have 2 diffrent bearings. One with black seal and one with red seal. The red one is slightly higher. Also the cone on the one end is slightly higher.
Also I am not sure if the headset is supposed to miss the micro adjust washer for the upper bearing.
Can you tell me the height of the blue one?
@@stevenleffanue picture: ibb.co/L8M4MBx red one is 8mm height, black one 7mm
Thinking logical it would make sense that the smaller one would go aß the lower because there sits The crown wich Takes aproximately a mm in height..
What a Faff that is, not for me it wont make me go any faster.