Navy SEAL Coch's Top 5 Battle Rifle Picks
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- Retired Navy SEAL Mark "Coch" Cochiolo talks about his top 5 battle rifle picks from his career in the SEAL teams. He also mentions a battle rifle that he has yet to try that might make his list in the future.
Coch has over 30 years of Naval Special Warfare experience ranging from Special Warfare Operator, Operational Tester, Combat developer, Officer In Charge, Training Officer and Weapons Instructor.
Coch has four operations SEAL tours of duty to the Western Pacific (WESTPAC) under his belt and has spent eight years as an assaulter and breacher on the US Navy’s tier-one counter-terrorist unit (i.e. SEAL Team 6) making operational and combat deployments to hotspots in Eastern Europe and the Middle East.
When it comes to battle rifles, what's your favorite?
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Coch with a mohawk and an M1A is the coolest thing I have seen in a long time
U maybe cool but u'll never be that cool
Used an M14 in Vietnam with the USMC. Yes it was heavy, the ammo was heavy, it was long and cumbersome in the bush, but I can tell you that I never heard another Marine complain about the beast in a firefight. I spent 19 months on my first tour as a forward observer, working in bedded with the 1st , and 9th Marines. Second tour in 69-70, I was a section chief (gun commander) of an M109, SP 155mm howitzer. When I arrived in country the 1st Sergeant wanted to issue me an M16. As a Sergeant I requested an M14 and it was provided. I sawed off the butt because it was to long for the tight quarters inside the gun. Thirty two months in that shithole provided me with an intimate relationship with the Springfield M14 with a selector switch. Own one today, 50 years later, and it still is the best. Never failed to fire, would clean it everyday and it provided the protection and piece of mind. It put many enemy in the dirt.
I carried an M-14 in Iraq in 04-05. I loved it so much I got an M1A when I came home.
Thx for sharing guys great stuff. I used the EBR a little bit in Iraq as well.
Hoora Devil Dog. M14 is a damned good rifle in my humble opinion too.
LT Frederick Downs jr wrote a book about his experiences in Viet Nam and he describes how he assigned the M14 to point men. so the initial shots taken by that element would not be as likely to deflect in underbrush. Right or wrong it shows the respect given the M14 by that LT and how it might help save his men's lives.
My 1st rifle in the Corps, love it. Looking to get one soon. The only thing i hate about the rifle is in boot camp we had to practice the manual of arms back to back. If the fool you was backed up to you didn't do it right. The flash suppressor was going to bang your head hard. Sadly i got lots of bumps and 1 that was bleeding. Still love this rifle. SFMF
I carried an M-14 in Iraq. With M-118 ammo accuracy is pretty insane. The bullet just goes where you want it too out to 500meters.
What stopping power does it have, how many human bodies does the bullet go through? Asking for a friend
@@Hordalending how many bodies does it go through? Whichever one you're aiming at.
🤔🤔 in the words of TopGun……bullshit 🤧.
@@tee1up785 I'm confused do you feel an M14 won't reach out to 500 meters or that a 7.62 bullet isn't going to kill someone.....
@@robbybee70 its almost like he was responding to another comment, or is twelve.
I like your style of delivery "Coch", it comes to me as genuine, real, down to earth, and so American. You should be the primary host of this channel, and all these videos. Period. 'Merica
Agreed! I stumbled unto this channel yesterday and thought Coch ran it.
I carried an M14 when I was in Vietnam 67 / 68. I was attached to Hqbn 3rd Marine Spec unit 2. I Corp. The only prob I had with it , toooo long. An it had a. Straight wood stock. I don't recall when the E 2 stock was avertible, but that was a big improvement. A few years after I was a civilian again, I bought an M 1A an found an E2 stock. And swore to myself I wood keep that weapon until I died. Well got hard up for money an ya know what happen then. I had 24 long guns an about the same handguns. No longer. Got a divorce and weapons divorced me. Well at. Least I can say I had em. SEMPER FI
P.S. I also had an FN FAL, which I loved, that was one accurate rifle. I could hit schit like you wouldn't believe. Yeah it's gone too excuse me while I cry in my beer. Why couldn't I sell the wife and kept the guns?
an inspiration you are sir
The rock sopmod is gold hopefully someone makes clones some day
I like that you didn't spend 30 minutes trash talking the M14, everyone I know that has one loves them
Battle rifles were the thing we needed in Afghanistan. I carried a pimped out G3 on my last Bundeswehr tour in Afghanistan . 1-4 Short dot and a stock that was cut for body armor. My G36 stayed in camp 95% of the time . In an urban centric aoo like Ukraine I would only pick a 7.62 ( G3 or SCAR 17) as a DMR .
Interesant Marcus, danke.
I would agree with you on x51 for a DMR, the M110 would be my pick for no.1 spot. It's not a battle rifle, but then again most battle rifles do not work well for a DMR capability, without some after-market work on them. The SCAR-17 makes a lot of sense for a modern battle rifle and that would be my pick.
Danke für Ihren Dienst dort in Afghanistan!!! Es schmerzt mich immer wieder wofür Ihr eigentlich da ward.....und in Berlin stehen Sie immer noch nicht zu euch Veteranen!!!! Zum Kotzen...
The HK G3 and FN SCAR-H (MK 17) are battle rifles, not designated marksman rifles. If you're looking for DMR versions of those rifles, I recommend you go for the HK MSG90A2 or the FN SCAR TPR (MK 20 SSR), respectively.
Since you served in the Bundeswehr, I'm surprised you wouldn't go for an HK 417A2 battle rifle or an HK G28 designated marksman rifle if you were operating in a Ukrainian urban center. If you ask me, the HK G3, like the FN FAL and the M14, is a bit outdated.
@@Wuestenkarsten
How does Berlin not stand by their military veterans? I'm curious; I'm American, so I don't know.
@@Trenex1000 I am not Marcus but I am so cheeky to answer for him:
HK 417A2 battle rifle is not used by the BW. HK G28 designated marksman rifle was introduced around 2012 as a replacement for the G3 DMR. There are not many around.
So the answer of Marcus is most likely: because I don't know these guns. The G3 and the G36 are the standart issue guns in service in all branches.
"If you ask me, the HK G3, like the FN FAL and the M14, is a bit outdated."
What makes them outdated? They are reliable, accurate and use a full power cartidge. They do everything a rifle is supposed to do.
The G3 is conciderable lighter than the G28. Even if equiped as DMR. It also has a full auto setting which the G28 doesn't. The G28 is only really superiour in a rather sniper like DMR role. At long ranges and static. The G3 is lighter and easier to wield. Its better at closer ranges and if you need to be mobile. Which for me would make it the more sensible pick for MOUT IMHO.
G3 served my dear country of Portugal as main rifle for 69 years, it was used in the jungles of Africa during the colonial War that lasted 13 years, it might not be the best but it's for sure reliable and effective
Love these videos. It's like being in school. Big respect for you and all of the veteran commenters below. I got out of the Army in '79 and saw no battles but my brother served for 20 years and was all over the place and my son served with the 10th mountain division in Afghanistan. God Bless America.
This channel reminds me of school too. My teachers were also always drunk.
I have a m14 scout model, that thing is heavy but man it is accurate and shoots lights out, one of the greatest rifles I own! I luv that rifle! Thanks for your service you deserve an adult drink!
I gotta admit I like the AR platform. Have them in 6 different calibers.
That said, you're choices are rock solid
I own more uppers than lowers.
I just interchange with what I'm shooting that day. The ammo choices are nuts.
@@imadequate3376 I have more lowers than uppers hehe
I now see why mass shooters love this platform.
From 12 to 18 yrs old I shot the FNFAL in the New Zealand cadet forces. Earning my Marksman’s rating with them. They were made under licence in Australia, and we simply called them the SLR (Self loading rifle) after they replace the SMLE Lee Enfield used up to that time. We only got the SLR because our army was changing over the M16 and it’s variants.
Heavy rifle, but that helped its accuracy over longer ranges.
Gotta get Coch to ramble for longer then 6m
Love my Galil Ace in 7.62x51. My G3 and StG58 are also excellent weapons. You can mitigate the G3 recoil by installing a heavy buffer instead of the stock one. I love the G3 platform, robust, reliable, and accurate. Magazines are cheap and readily available. The G3 is one of the few weapons that will eject spent brass even when the extractor is broken. This is due to the chamber flutes that allow the gases from the fired round to push the spent brass rearward, along with the bolt carrier and the ejector kicks the brass out the ejection port. The G3 is surprisingly controllable in full auto, something the M14 isn't. The only real drawback to the design is that it lacks a bolt hold open. But, if you train properly with it, it's not such a big deal.
The Scar is a nice rifle, but the price is a bit high. I know you have to weigh the value of your life to balance with what you need. I guess it's all in personal preference. I've always liked the 7.62x51 round. Maybe I'm just a dinosaur. Anyhow, thank you for the honesty and the video. Thank you for your service. God bless America.
From your first drink l knew you were the one to watch ..The way you present is down to earth .. l was thrilled till the end and couldn't wait to hit the subscribe and thumbs up button . You nail it on the evolution of weapons from this time . To get this all from a Navy SEAL is priceless
Always love to listen to Coch. Thanks for this entertaining video.
Is the recoil of the 7.62mmX51mm really that bad? I think people have grown so accustomed to the 5.56mm that anything else becomes oh so harsh, for lack of a better term.
It's when it's full auto is when it's gets out of hand. There's ways to tame it but it takes weight or annoying muzzle brakes
Well, it does make a a difference. It effects your accuracy no matter how small the difference is. 5.56 usually has more rounds in the mag as well.
It’s really not that bad. Especially if you have an effective muzzle device &/or buffer system, and some heft, it’s plenty serviceable. But of course you have people who complain that 7.62x39 is too harsh. If they think that’s harsh, they should try 10ga turkey loads or some .45-70!
In a semi-automatic package, it's manageable though generally even the best shooters will be able to easily put rounds on target with 5.56 or even 7.62x39 in a rapid string vs the majority of 7.62x51 rifles. 7.62x51 offers a lot of punch but there is stout recoil behind it, and if you're a shooter that prioritises getting as many rounds on target in a short amount of time (not accounting full-auto though see Ian from Forgotten Weapons try to tame a full-auto M14) though properly configured weapon systems can help mitigate this.
Still, there are other factors why someone would prefer using a smaller calibre rifle over full power 30 cal rounds, namely ammo capacity, reduced concussion, mitigate overpenetration...
There are 2 answers.
1) yes, many men are girly men and are scared of .308 recoil. The way I fixed my recoil issues is I bought and shot hundreds of rounds of 12ga buckshot. So "sensitivity" can be fixed.
2) he is not talking about "I'm scared of recoil." He is talking about follow-up shots and how much punch there is and the momentum of all that steel. So yes, that does make it harder to do a good hammer pair or quickly dump 5 rounds into a bad guy at CQB distance. Guys using 7.62x39 or 7.62x51 use all sorts of breaks/compensators and guys with 5.56 or 5.45 still beat them in the time and accuracy departments. So Coch is dead on.
Love these videos Coch!!
I own 2 M1A’s . The scout squad and SOCOM 16. The SOCOM is my favorite gun, hands down. Love the 16” barrel length , love the power, recoil isn’t too bad, the iron sights are exceptional and it looks cool as hell. The world ends tomorrow, she’s the one I’m dancing with until death 💀
Edit : forgot to mention stripper clips. I run an aim point pro on the scout rail which looks kinda weird that far up the barrel but I do it so I can still use stripper clips which are awesome.
Hey Mr.Coch,
Thank you for your service. Love the videos. Carry on.
Great video, keep’em coming!
I love that Coch just sits down with a bottle of whiskey and just talks to the audience like he’s sitting in a lounge somewhere talking to someone over drinks. It really engages the audience. Great list.
I love the damned bottle of whiskey!
Nice video! It's interesting to see the evolution of the technologies, certainly today we have improved everything but I wouldn't underestimate any opponent carrying one of these weapons.
I love hearing from real Seals. No lies or Hollywood fulff. Keep them coming!
Good presentation and fun to watch. Still, I have to say I'm sticking with my .30-40 Krag because almost no one knows what it is. Plus the ammo is super light to carry because it's almost impossible to find anymore.
About 3 dollars a round if you can get it right?
😂...
Yes. When carrying no ammo, the ammo is weightless.
Love the content 🔥🔥
Thanks ! Great Choices!
Coch seems like the kinda guy who is a blast to hang out with.
Thank you for giving the Scar H some love. It’s my battle rifle of choice as well. Great weapon system. Good video!
Cool video!
Fun to discuss different systems.
Great video thanks.
Great vid.
Coch, great video. But also, thank you for your part in the SCAR!
Bought a Springfield M1-A a few years ago in scout squad. I love it. Peace. (Through superior firepower).
I agree, the M14 was a great rifle but very long. I used one at Marine Barracks in our guard vehicles , civilian pick up trucks. Hard to move around with and we even broke windshields because the rifle had to be pulled up from the rifle mount to deploy.
They make as short as 16 inch barrel now. You should look into them again.
That’s freaking excellent! “Hey grab the…”glass breaks in background. 😂
The M14 socom with the short barrel is awesome! I have 3 and hunt deer and hogs with them. I wish I could have had this weapon in Iraq!
Nothing but expertly informative! Beyond compelled to just subscribe. KUDOS, yeah. High bar, Brother.
Another good one, Coch! 👍🏻
Good pics! 👍
Great list!
Agree with your scar pick as number 1. I am also intrigued by the new spear and what that system will be capable of over the scar.
Excellent and Outstanding!!!!
The rifle that's really got my attention is the POF Revolution DI. It's an AR10 in an AR15 size frame and weighs just under 7 pounds. I don't have one yet but that thing looks like a pretty sweet set-up.
I agree and I’ve been wanting one as well, but that light weight with a full 308 is going to be hefty in the recoil department. I think I’ll hunt for a 6.5 if I ever go for it.
Awsomeness! Light but packs the 308 ROOM TEMPERATURE Treatment.
NOW I gotta see what mags are used! Priority or others I might possess. Please have a Safe Memorial Day with friends and family brudder!
Pof is overpriced junk
Agreed. I think the DI on it is timed very well, and if it shoots anything like a SCAR the recoil is the same as a VZ58 lol
As a Scar H owner.....THANK YOU for your input is those features! Love my scar and a lot of those features makes it so much nicer to use compared to my AR.
I'm glad that you included the M1A, I'm from Canada and use it for everything from short & long range target practice with my daughter to hunting just about anything with the guy's. Hell, all the rifles you mentioned I'd be glad to own!!!
Not anymore you don't Turdo banned the M1A
They banned m14. Not m1
Solid selection
"Go make your own." Love it!
The good old G3. Had that for my conscription year in the Norwegian army and then for years in the Norwegian Home Guard. In Norway its called AG-3. Great rifle. We have now moved to the HK416.
looking good through the years dude!
Pew pew!
Great topic. Battle rifles are often skipped topics. Absolutely interesting.
200k lets go lads! ✊
Wow I definitely agree !! Great review 👏on point thank you sir!!😉🇺🇸.
great list
To be fair the HK G3 is a direct descendant from the spanish CETME B, developed in Spain by german engeneers after WW2! These rifles have their roots in WW2 German assault rifle Stg45, developed by Mauser. After WW2, some Mauser men moved to Spain and started to work for CETME, where they developed the Mod. B battle rifle, chambered for 7.62mm NATO cartridge
True, but the CETME isn't exactly a good rifle...
@Mark Cochiolo
Would be really interested. I had an HK 91 (Civvy version) and quite liked it.
@@Ahabite if you have an early rebuild made by the grinder monkeys at century arms you would be right, but the cetmes built by ptr for century are excelent rifles.
@Mark Cochiolo I don't think it would be boring at all. I think people would find it interesting how from a "how does it work" standpoint would be a cool video. After I r tired from the Army I became friends with a guy who owns a Sturmgewehr 44. When he first got it he had me come over and check it out. I asked him has he taken it apart yet? No was his answer. I look d it over for about a minute then field stripped it without ever having done it before. The M-249, 240B, CETME, FAL, M-16 series share so much with the Stg-44 I can't list them all. That Coch would make a great video. Like a Lineage themed video.
Glad to see two of my favorites on the list. The G3 and M14. I also owned a semi FAL at one time... But the trigger pull was horrendous... So I sold it.
Great video. I had an FN FAL back in the 1990's. It was long and heavy but it would digest anything. Burned through a case of Portuguese 7.62mm Nato surplus ammo with no malfunctions.
I bought an M1A socom 16 cqb about 2 years ago and love it. The SCAR heavy is definitely on my bucket list.
I bought a Tavor 7. Fully ambidextrous. I love it!
My Tavor 7 is the most amazing battle rifle I have ever used. Love it too.
M1A is accurate and on my list as well. Just a lot of rifle to hump. Glad I found your channel. U earned the sub. Looking forward to watching your stuff
I appreciate your comments.
The #s 5, 4, & 3 I had experience with. Had
a G3 (select fire) assigned
to the unit. We put 5000
rounds thru same attempting to have a 👍😊🇺🇸malfunction. Never did
experience a malfunction.
The plate holding the roller bearings broke, but like a timex watch the rifle kept
functioning.
Cool list! Love the Scar H!
Your list is perfect you can see why each rifles in its place but I still love M14
My mum trained on the FN-C1 when she was in the army reserves in Canada in the 70s and hated it. She is just over 5 feet tall and found the recoil to be extremely harsh and the overall weight made the rifle awkward for her to move. Had nothing but praise for the Sterling SMG though!
Thank you 😊
Thanks Coch, I started wearing green when we had the SLR [FAL] , which as you said was heavy and kicked but what ever you hit went down. Then we bought the Steyr AUG, and there I will any more comments other to say I really enjoy your video's Cheers
So you're either Australian, a New Zealander, or Irish. I'm guessing Irish?
Hell yeah , M1A!!! All your choices are badass!!
I finally got a M14SA from LRB of Long Island: 18 inch barrel, welded gas selector, all forged steel parts, glass bedded composite stock...dead on accurate and reliable. Backing it up is my "demilled" original USMC M14 (welded selector notch) which I qualified for through the CMP 30+ years ago. Great weapons!
on point list hands down
Glad you put the SCAR at the top and thank you for your input into the SCAR system! I love my SCAR 16S!
The SCAR is trash.
@@arighteousname5882 - Says somebody who probably has never shot one. What do you think is better?
M14 or hk 417
@@kylebeckman1398any AK or Zastava to be fair. There is a reason why they are the most sold rifles worldwide.
happy to see that u've tried out bm59TA :D
Great choices alot of them are my favorite battle rifles too.
WOW COOL PICTURES!
M1 A with folding stock is my favorite. I love the M2 carbines as well, with the paratrooper folding stocks.
Thanks Coch
Cool list! Some people don't like the SCAR but the one time I got to take one out I loved it.
Cool. Super likable dude with good delivery. You need a tv show. 👍
Good list 👍
100 style points for the Mohawk. Keep the great work and rep your Heritage.
I carried the M14A1 with bipod, preferred it over the M16, never let me down.
Wow! Pretty cool you have history with the SCAR development.
I own a SCAR17, and it's easily one of my favorite.
I am 100% certain that most 80s action movies are just snippets of Coch's life story
I enjoyed your list and if you really want to fire Sig Sauer battle rifle, go to the Sig Sauer freedom days in NH in October, sign up is in June, saw it in action in phoenix in may during Sig Sauer freedom days and it’s beautiful!
I do love the M14/M1A. Competed with the M14 for several years on my unit's rifle team back in the 90's. The AR platform, what can be said that already hasn't? It's a proven system. My newest one was purpose "built" for long range work. Has a 24" heavy barrel chambered in 6mm ARC. Almost the power of .308 w/out the recoil. You can definitely tell impacts on steel at 1k yds. The FAL, I had a imbel stg58. It was fun to shoot, recoil wasn't bad at all but it was very inaccurate. I don't know if that was common for the rifle or if it was just a manufacturer thing. Have never had the opportunity to fire a G3/91 nor the SCAR.
I was issued and trained with the M1 Garand. Later qualified with the M-14 before I got out. If I was a collector, I would be interested in the 1903 Springfield, M1 Garand, M1A full size, and the AR-15 (now banned in CT). I was at about the last period between the Korean War and the Vietnam War.
Only deployments were the Bay of Pigs Invasion and the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Thanks Chief (don't know which rank).
Additional: in the 1960 period, we were issued all the 762 gear of WWII and Korea. I loved it because I watched all the WWII and Korean War movies as a young teenager and got to see all their gear, such as the M1 and the .45 Auto, which I later carried.
I like your list, I was surprised to see SCAR as number 1, but I suppose it makes sense buddy. I too like the M1A, I personally own one also. Great video.
I should also add as a kid growing up in the 60,s and 70,s I also thought the M1A barrel was too long! Imagine my surprise when SA came out with the M1A Scout! I wish however they would CHROME LINE the barrels.
coch you the man
The g3 is a beast !! I love it wish I could have a legit g3 but the ptr is still really nice
I got a M1A with a national match barrel. I like the rifle because I can shoot a .308 Winchester or a 7.62x51mm NATO round.
Used to want a SCAR at one time. Opted for a Socom16 instead. Only .308 platform I have. Got to say i'm pretty happy with it. Thanks for the info Coch!
Had an HK-91 "G3" back in the 80's, my God, the trigger was like 12 lb pull! Horrible! AND HEAVY! VERY HEAVY! LOVE the M-14/M1A!
I think you made some excellent picks! All of them are great rifles! I own a PTR91 which is basically an American made HK91/G3 and I love it. Sure it's a bit heavy at around 10 pounds but the weight actually helps a bit with the recoil and the Witt Machine SME 308 muzzle brake I have on it takes down a lot of recoil. I have a Magpul PRS 2 stock on it and all in all I love the rifle!
There's something to be said about the PTR91/G3/CETME whatever HK91 you own. My friend has one with a nice 4 power optic and it just goes where you put it at 300 yards
Same... I have a PTR as well... But I wouldn't say that it "kicks like a mule" by a longshot... Personally I think the recoil is less than my friend's M1A....
But like he said: It's his list. ;)
I love these picks. I stumbled on a G3 clone for $375, military supply shop run and got 6 mags and a sling for another $25 -30 bucks. Now I have a 400 m 'get the hell outta the neighborhood rifle'.
I own one also. Solid rifle. Not that much recoil
I highly recommend the Precision Armament Severe-Duty Brake. For those looking for maximum recoil reduction, anyway.
Sooooo very happy that you mentioned th fn fal, or as we call in Australia the Slr. Thank you kindly. If I end up going to war, my choice would be the Slr
Thanks coch
Nice! As Marine 72-76`we qualify with the M-14 in boot camp but in ITS it was the M-16 then on, but as far as dinking! The 14 kickass on anything over 200 yards! You being a Seal you got to carry anything you wanted to hump! Dig the video! Sinn Fein Byrne
Nice looking folding tube stalk wooden 51 frame rifle.
Spot on
110% awesome selections old school triggering
Good video. Think about the resolution of stock pictures like from the AR10. It's awful on a small laptop and some are on youtube with their big tv's so it's worse. Very cool to see Coch's pics from way back. Coch do you think that the flip down front sight started the buis folding market or was there a lot of it before that time?
Completely agree on the AR10, up until the M5, was my favorite. When the chit hits the fan you don't notice recoil, and the terminal ballistics of the .308 far surpasses the 5.56. The 6.8mm looks even better.
Looking forward to the SIG as well. Supposedly, the 6.8X51 round, with a suppressor - which, as I understand it, is how many of them will be equipped - has fairly modest recoil, at only a few ft.lbs. over an un-suppressed 5.56 round... even at the wopping 80K PSI chamber pressure.