Narrowboat Electrics. Installing a 12V, 230V Electrical System, Wiring, Batteries & Inverter - Ep 36
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- Want to know about Narrowboat Electrics? It's time to wire up narrowboat Silver Fox and in this vlog we'll be installing our 12V & 230V electrical system, wiring, batteries & inverter.
In this vlog we'll talk you through the electrical system we're installing on our narrowboat, from the batteries and shore hook-up, through to the inverter, distribution board, each of the circuits, switches, and appliances.
Colin shows you how to carry out a power audit, and invents a battery made from jelly beans (no, really!).
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I love the way you explained electricity with your dash off to the power station. You always make your vlogs really interesting. I’m hooked🤣🤣🤣
I have totally enjoyed these vlogs on the building of Silver Fox. THAT is how we would do it. I am an only child and my dad was a auto mechanic and later machinest extraordinaire. He taught me how to take care of my car, I watched him fix and repair things, and guess I inherited his genes to like doing that kind of things...even though I was/am a girly-girl!!!! I asked, and he taught me all about all of that stuff. Silver Fox is not only very pretty but you know her inside and out. That is fabulous! And, I have enjoyed and understood everything being done. Thank you for those vlogs.
Absolutely our pleasure! 👍🏻💜
Very enjoyable series, it is great seeing your boat being built. I only discovered this channel a few weeks back, and just caught up to this video.
The power audit table is very misleading when you talk about amp-hours for 230 volt appliances like the TV. Some may assume that relates to the amp-hours the batteries are rated at, which is far from the case. The 0.64Ah needs to be multiplied by 230V/12V to get a useful figure (12.3Ah). You will also need to account for the inverter efficiency which is harder to estimate, so you are better off doing a measurement through the inverter but lets assume it is 90% then your actual consumption would 13.6Ah. Another factor to consider with the inverter is there is some background consumption from it even when no 230V appliance is in use, unless of course you disconnect the inverter as well.
Hello!
Thanks for the nice comment, I'm glad you're enjoying the series so far :)
In regards to the power audit section, I'm sorry if you found the table misleading. As you can see from your own example above, working out exact figures is quite a complicated series of formulae, and in this particular vlog (as I mention at the end of that piece) all boats have different battery/inverter/power requirements and supplies.
For that reason, and to keep things as simple as possible for this introduction to the power audit, the examples I gave were the basic calculations. One for working out a 230V amperage and watts from a 230V supply (I don't actually say that the 230V is being taken from a 12V battery - It could be from the 230V shore hook-up), and then a 12V example for use from a 12V supply (the fridge).
The reason I didn't include provision for the inverter efficiency is, again, because our system hadn't been switched on at that time, and I wasn't going to guess because once we switch it all on I'll be doing an actual reading. Hence I said at the end of that part of the vlog that I would be following up with a more detailed power audit on our completed system, once the electrics were finished and all the appliances connected.
I hope that all makes sense? I do tend to babble sometimes! And I hope you stay with us - The boat is almost finished! Colin xxxxx
Another very informative Vlog, as a retired Electrician & Communications Engineer, this was right up my street... thanks 😁👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Love the jelly bean analogy for explaining the amp/hours, I could understand that, thank you.
Very popular but don't go eating the batteries! 🤣
Brilliant. I’m an Electrician and I love your explanation of amp hours - I’m going to steal that idea and make a jelly bean battery to demonstrate this. 👍
You like jellybeans, don't you? Mmmmmm 😋
Very well explained. I have explained the amp hour definition to people with good success but not in the short time you explained it...nicely done. This was a great video that many a boat manufacturer could use to explain the very basics for the new narrowboater...thanks for sharing...Vic
Our pleasure, Vic! You'll have to buy loads of jellybeans now 😋
@@FoxesAfloat Yes I will, again Thanks Vic
I can see so much work goes into these videos and the quality shines above the rest. Excellent 👏👏👏
Thanks, Jamie 👍🏻
You put so much work into these vlogs. They’re so interesting and entertaining. I think Shaun says “you can’t say that” every vlog! 😂 love the outtakes xx
You’re always so kind. Thank you, Sue xxx
Oh, this one had me in hysterics! Colin, you and Shaun did an amazing job of explaining a topic that even most Mechanics, find difficult to understand. As an Aircraft Mechanic and total nerd Amateur Radio Operator, I find the topic of Electricity and Electronics quite fascinating. I think your idea of using a Jelly Bean battery to explain current draw in Amp/Hours was sheer genius. The power audit was easy to understand and I think many if not most grasped your explanation. You took a difficult topic, seasoned it with a boatload of humor, even explaining the Power Grid and held our interest to the end! Well Done You ! Oh . . . and to see the two of you doing the Cha Cha . . . well that was the icing on the cake !
One day someone will invent a real Jellybean battery.
When that day comes. Mmmmmm... 🤤
The outtakes are hilarious! 😂
The best part about a relationship with an electrician? He keeps you up to date on current events.
😂
Very well explained..... for the first time I actually understand how the electrical works!! Well done Colin. Sean I love the dancing!!💃💃💃
Haha! Thanks 😂
The best explanation and demonstration of volts, watts, amp hours that I've ever seen. Useful information for RVers, and van lifers too.
Thank you 🙏
I can’t believe I’ve only just come across this classic vlog. I loved the hilarious editing! It has been super useful to understand the electrical system of our boat. It would be interesting to hear about your experience with managing the electrical system now you’ve got used to it - if there’s any tips and tricks you’ve learnt along the way. Only if you ever get stuck for video content or end up in another lockdown - touch wood.
Yay! Thank you!
Holy cow! You should have been a teacher. You are brilliant at explaining this!
Thank you, Richard! 😃
As an electrician, I subbed purely on the jelly bean explanation. n
Now I know how to explain this stuff to my mates who know nout about power. Also, great video.
My favourite comment of the week so far! Cheers, Stev 👍🏻 xx
Thank you for the jellybean explanation of amp hours. Never understood amps before.
Just don't eat real batteries 😬
What a fun and informative vlog! I was chuckling throughout! It's the first time I've ever understood electricity! Thanks guys!
Glad it was helpful!
You have NO IDEA how much these help me after a day at work.
Thank you!
Oh dear. Tough day?
A Informative and enjoyable Video Colin and Sean.
My goodness Colin, The way you explained electricity works has finally sunk into my grey matter. Now I need you to teach me navigation as I've always wanted to know how that works.
Haha! Anytime 👍🏻
Best Vlog yet! Funny, informative and will be a great help to people starting out. Wish it had been around when we started out 😊
Wish we had the talent to show our builds progress. Keep up the great Vlog making!
Awwww, thanks Martin! 👍🏻
We’ll try and keep making them great
Great video guys!! Quite a production there 😀👍👍 Lots of details, thanks 🙏
Thank you for you lovely comments xx
nice calculation, but you need to do it in kWh - you missed a factor of ~20 for the consumption of the TV :o)
Amp hours are okay when everything runs on the same voltage, but with 2 kWh for each battery you have a number that everyone understands.
Oh boy 🙄 haha! Look back at the previous comments. The figures are based on flat formulas, ie, a standard voltage before inverters, battery voltages or any other calculation is taken into account. I do say that in the vlog and that an accurate power audit will follow once we're up and running 😉
Cant thank you enough for this explanation, I have been scratching my head on whether to get 12v sockets on our new boat or not. Now I know. Thank you thank you thank you!
Glad it helped
Wonderful explanation, just enough details to be completely interesting. Excellent job, and you can tell Shawn loved the dancing bit!!
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I’m going to become a member ASAP! You guys deserve every penny I don’t have right now! Just started a new biz during a pandemic, it’s going as well as you might imagine haha! Big Hugs!
Awww thank you so much ❤️❤️❤️
Having never quite recovered from trying to understand electrics in O level physics, I had fully intended to skip this particular VLOG. However, I’ve just watched it the whole way through - and found it riveting! I already knew about power stations/transformers but the whole amp/hours thing had always confused me - but I loved your explanation. And the power audit - wow, fascinating! We’re caravaners and all I’d understood previously was that on a fair few campsites, boiling the kettle requires us to turn anything off and keep our fingers crossed! Brilliant! Thank you - I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Thanks, Sara! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
😂😂 brilliant as usual - husband enjoyed the content more than me lol - we’re beyond excited at the moment as we have put a deposit down on a boat and had the survey done yesterday - it was all good so hopefully by about first week in feb we will be the proud owners of our narrowboat
Wow! That’s ace 👍🏻
Foxes Afloat your boat is looking gorgeous btw xx
Thank you 💙
Watched a few of your newer videos and like them and how you guys present and put them together and so I went back to the beginning of your 2nd narrow boat building adventure. I am absolutely loving it, learning loads and find it absolutely fascinating to see about right from the beginning. I fantasise about having a narrow boat but I think health and as a result finances would always stop me. You have providing me a with a laugh as well which living alone during Covid-19 lockdown is very valuable. Thank you so much, you've turned a dull and meaningless day into one with laughter and smile.
Totally our pleasure, Rebecca. Thank you so much for joining us 💜
You both put in such a lot of effort to provide us with entertaining and informative vlogs.
This one was superb.
What a learning curve:)
I have been binging on your vlogs for about a week now.
Lots of laughs and some teary, empathetic and introspective moments. Very moving and much appreciated.
Thank you for such great content.
Thanks, Chris. Glad you're enjoying them 👍🏻 Thanks for the lovely feedback.
I have had electrical systems explained to me before, but this finally seemed to make sense! Great explanation for the technologically stupid!
Great to hear! Just don't touch the cable with your tongue 😬
@@FoxesAfloat But I want those sweet, sweet jellybeans!
Only just catching up with your adventure, great blog interesting and well explained , looking forward to the future vlogs. 😊🐶
Thanks, Doug 👍🏻
After getting through all of Jono and Mr. Cruise Cut's videos, I've just discovered your channel! Great stuff! Looking forward to more!
Thank you. Hope you enjoy them xx
Cheers guys... I now know how to figure out batteries and inverters and amp hours.. was struggling to get my head around it, so thanks for sharing. Best bit?? The dancing 🤪😬
Ha ha... You mean worst bit? lol! xxx
An excellent vlog on electrical consumption. The one piece of electrical equipment I hate is the hair drier, the batteries and inverter hate it as much as I do 😡. We are moored at Crick Marina, if we catch up with you come and have a free cuppa, Ian and Chris nb Jenny.
Hey guys! Thanks for the invite! We'll definitely call in for a cuppa next time we're down there :) xx
First time I've seen this! The jelly bean segment had me in stitches!
😂
Brilliant vlog, that is the best explanation of electrical usage I've ever seen. I now feel like I would be able to work out the power I need. Thank you x
Awwww, thanks! Loving you right now xxx
Your distribution box is lush. I may have to splash out for a CNC'd one myself.
👍🏻😉
Very interesting, learned a lot, very well explained.
Thanks, Colin (great name) 👍🏻
Great Vlog - as are the others - Thanks. It's great to see the whole build process. You seem to really take pride in the boat and even the videos. Brilliant.
Thanks Oliver. We do try to put some effort in. Glad you noticed 👍🏻
Well done guys... As a professional automotive electrician I was very impressed with your explanation of this subject. Probably one of the best that I have seen here on CZcams.
Wow! Thank you, Bob! That means a lot 👍🏻
I've been anticipating this next episode for what seems like forever! It was well worth the wait. Entertaining and informative, you both put so much effort into the production, thanks so much for sharing it with us
Thanks, Gordon! Very kind of you 👍🏻
Gentlemen, thank you very much for an enlightening and informative video. I learned a lot about narrowboat electrification and the science behind the use and deployment of various electrical devices aboard a narrowboat. You took a complicated subject and explained it in a very common sense and straightforward manner. Well done!
Glad you enjoyed it!
excellent,love the description on how it works,and the humour,layman's terms are good.
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice one guys, love the running between the sub stations!!!
Thank you. I have to say, it was all Colin’s idea (Shaun x)
Superb explanation of electrics on your boat. This was among the best instructive video that I have seen! Thank you both!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Colin, you should have been wearing a superhero cape when you were doing all your running around at the beginning of the vlog! :-) this was just brilliant! and i LOVED the outtakes/bloopers at the end of the vlog!
My best mate has a cracking Captain America outfit I’d love to try on 😜
I've found electrics a mystery my whole life - your vlog is the first time it kind of started to make sense! Great vlog, cheers chaps!
Awesome! Thank you!
Thanks again for an excellent vlog. Gareth & Donna
Cheers, Gareth & Donna! x
Thank you! Ewectrics has always befuddled me. You made it weasy! Thumbs up Carl
Please don't eat the batteries 😬
Thank you for all of the easy to understand expertise and information, much appreciated!
You're very welcome!
Gents top video, I’ll share with you the most important equation I learnt as a apprentice spark , chaos over confusion = overtime 😜 I’ve used that more times then ohms law.
👍🏻
After a terribly scary start, it became an intersting and very well explained vlog.
Looking forward to your next one, Atb, Peter.
Ha ha! We got told off for getting too close 😂
Your vlogs are so professional BTW guy's. Absolutely smashed this vid and great info too. Leg-ends!!!!!!
Glad you didn't say legends.... Cos Leg ends is true 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@FoxesAfloat 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Don’t know if I said but I love how you and Shaun make these vlogs videos. Serious and hilarious videos. My stepdad when he does electrical work helps me understand what he’s doin and this video I’m learning more because of ur excellent presentation. 😊
That is awesome!
Just found these videos and I can't stop watching them. So interesting and informative and presented in a way that you can understand. You both would have made excellent Teachers and that is coming from a now retired Technology Teacher. Well done indeed and thanks for doing these videos.
Awesome, thank you!
Hi Guys your efforts on our behalf are appreciated as every great vlog. 🐈🐈
Hey, Annie! Thank you for you lovely comment 🥰
Hi Foxes. I found you from a recommendation from narrowboat girl. Good vlog, informative AND entertaining! I am impressed with your new battery bank. We have to manage with 300ah, so I’m rather jealous.
Hey Malcolm! Thank you for such a nice comment, and welcome to our channel! Our actual use is gonna be about 136Ah, so even using 50% we could manage with yours. Does that make you less jealous? (I'm trying here!) xxxxx
Foxes Afloat Lol. Maybe! No more space in the battery box anyway. The boat was built in 1988. It was all 12v until I upgraded the bank and added an inverter. Adding Solar has been the best upgrade yet and looking forward to seeing what you’ve done with yours’. We have 3*100w panels but suspect you have rather more than that...
We have 5 x 120w panels - Hopefully enough!
😮 Very well explained Colin. Great presentation. So informative. Even as a mare caravan owner as I am this was very interesting. Thanks. 👍
Jelly bean battery bit got the biggest laugh from me so far out of any of the videos. Ugh, cinnamon! Hahahaha! Thank you for cracking me up.
I hate cinnamon! 🤢
Bug Me! I'm on the Open University channel. Grand work lads.
Ha ha...! All the right words but not necessarily in the right order 😂
Cheers guys. I'm a bit late watching the vlog. But once again it was very entertaining. Way to make a pretty boring subject fun to watch. To be honest not sure if i actually learned anything but i did enjoy it. Keep it up boys and until the next vlog. Rusty
Cheers for that, Rusty. 💙💙💙
Great vlog Sean and Colin so informative clear and simple love your boat.
Thank you, Peter. That's very kind of you :)
Another brilliant vlog, very informative and funny
Thanks, Jill. Lovely of you to say that 💙
love you guys, alway put a smile on are faces, so thank you.... the boat is looking very posh happy days.
Awwww... love you too, Ray! Thank you 😊
Absolutely brilliant guys! I so look forward to your videos - The best narrowboat vlogs on CZcams. Can't wait to see you both at the Crick show :)
Hi Chris. Thanks for your lovely comment. Yeah, we may be at Crick this year :)
That was so very helpful. I’ve struggled with the power usage calculations in the past. But now I get it!! Ta. C
Glad it helped 👍❤️
Thanks so much guys, your explanation of the electrical systems was brilliant. It normally confuses me, but that was very well explained. I'm hoping to get a project boat in the future, and this was very helpful.
Glad it helped!
Fantastic Vlog again Guys, Look forward to your next one.
Cheers, Andy. Thanks for following us :)
@@FoxesAfloat Your welcome. your Vlogs are well put together.
Loved the outtakes! I’m enjoying the entire vlog.
Yay! Thank you!
Just love the jellybeans part fantastic
Hehe, please don't eat the insides of a real battery 😂
Love the choice of brushed metal!
Hi, John, Yeah, thanks. It goes well with the theme of the boat :) xx
Your Vlogs are very useful, thank you guys.
Cheers, James 👍🏻
Colin, you have a unique and fun way of teaching, I just love your posts and always look forward to the next. Many thanks
Thanks, Marian. You always say lovely things. It means a lot. 💙
@@FoxesAfloat I'm old school ... if you can't say something nice etc keep your cake hole shut LOL. Seriously you guys have always struck me as being nice people and you can't have enough of that.
Totally loving you! 💙💙
@@FoxesAfloat Dito
Fantastic vlog. Fantastic editing and slides for information!
Thank you, David! x
Very.....ELECTRIFYING & Buzzing ⚡⚡⚡⚡
Hope you are both ok x
We’re both fine. Glad you got your electrics working again. Great vlog you put out about it. More importantly, how’s Jo?
@@FoxesAfloat⚡ thanks guy's ⚡
I'm feeling better, thank you for asking 😊 x
Was waiting for you to mention which type of batteries you are using.
I just bought some for my motorhome. 120ah AGM batteries. As no doubt you are aware, l can drain those down to 20% dod. Although, that would reduce the cycle life. My main reason for choosing AGM batteries is no need to vent. Which is more important on a boat.
Lithium iron phosphate would be the best choice in any application. Sadly they are far too expensive for most guys. I can afford them, but l am a tight Scotsman 😁.
So l have my batteries, l have my 100/50 victron smartsolar panel. Now l just need to source suitable panels. Monocrystaline, the type l can walk on like yours.
I am fortunate to be qualified in electronics, so a big saving installing myself.
Nice one. We have Vetus 175Ah AGMs 👍🏻
Very informative and entertaining. A magic combination!
Thank you! 👍🏻
Excellent presentation team 👍👏👏👏
Cheers, Terry!
Another interesting and well presented vlog.
Thank you, Sally 💙
I'm no 'Sparky' (electrician to you) but I know enough to get myself into trouble. LOL Love your explanation of amp/hours too. Also your electrical audit is a very well explained.
Interestingly, here in Australia we don't use ring mains in houses but just a number of individual circuits from separate circuit breakers. Nor do we have fuses in our appliance plugs. Loving your vlogs lads. I'm gradually working my way through them. Cheers.
Cheers, Rob!
Great vlog guys loving the in depth how it’s made type stuff. Also I think some of the things you put as outtakes would be good left in the vlogs.
Thanks, Mark 👍🏻
Excellent vlog and very well explained. Gradually working my way through your build and thoroughly enjoying it. Just need a lottery win!!
Glad it was helpful! Good luck with the lottery!
Keep up the great work boyz. Love watching
Thanks Steven 👍🏻
Well done lads. A big jump in production values compared to so many other channels. "If you build it they will come" springs to mind whenever I see channels put this much effort into a video. I suspect you will see subscriptions rise very quickly once people watch this video. I think you may have pushed Journey with Jono and CruisingtheCut (my favourite canal channels) into second and third place on the podium with this episode. Subscribed.
Hi! That’s very kind of you to say. Thank you! I hope we manage to keep up the standard so you can enjoy our journey. x
You explain everything so well and make everything so entertaining! I love the music you use in your vlogs. You are both so funny. The outtakes made me cry laughing! Thank you x
Hey, Mandy!
The prize for the nicest comment so far goes to........ You! 🥰
You guys are just ace....
I've now started watching your out-takes first and then onto the main vlog...for me it makes a better vlog (sorry)
The NB is coming along great, hope to see it in the flesh one day.
Take care,
Regards Steve
Hey Steve 👋🏻
I’m sure you’ll get to meet us one day! Don’t be sorry about watching the outtakes first 😂
Just keep doing what you're doing because it very informative and just love you guys thanks .
Awwww, thanks Christopher! 💜
Fantastic video as ever guys with your inimitable sense of fun thrown in which always brings a smile to my face. Nearly put a deposit down on a gorgeous boat the other day at Rugby Boats but just as well I didn't as there is a hold up in the sale of my bungalow again further down the chain🤬🤬 Keep up the good work. Love Graham xx
Best to wait till you physically have the cash, Graham. I've heard too many horror stories of lost deposits! Best of luck with it all :)
@@FoxesAfloat I know what you're saying- it's a bit of heart ruling head as the fit out inside is just stunning and I fell in love with it as soon as I walked onboard. Hopefully all will be resolved soon and it will still be there.
Really loved this video....I have been struggling to understand the electrics on my boat Pangono.
Glad it was of help x
Thank you very much! It is a very informative video
You are welcome!
superb guys as always
Thanks, Mick!
Good straight forward info, cheers. AJ
Cheers, Alan! :) x
Brilliant vlog, I love the techie stuff, especially electrical.
Thanks, Jenny! x
Nice video, you covered that nicely.
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent presentation sirs 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Much appreciated, Lawrence 👍🏻
Nice job Guys!! Fun and informative to watch as always. The outtakes are always terrific! Mark from Florida
Thanks, Mark! Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻
Colin you with the jelly beans is hysterical😂😂😂😂 and informative!
Mmmmm... Jellybeans 😂