Dorothy Kirsten last perf. NY-Bergonzi MacNeil "Tosca"

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  • čas přidán 24. 01. 2010
  • Two "old pros" KIRSTEN ( last minute replacement) & BERGONZI. '79

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  • @kensonkuba8925
    @kensonkuba8925 Před 8 lety +14

    She was about 69 years old at the time of this performance. She regularly sang with Frank Sinatra 29 years prior to this. The quality of her voice when singing with Sinatra was noticeable. Must be her operatic training.

  • @alexanderzaphir721
    @alexanderzaphir721 Před 6 lety +9

    Licia ,Dorothy ,& Zinka....3 queens of the Met.They have proven to us ,that the perfection of their techniques has no age...

  • @vanmusician
    @vanmusician Před 6 lety +8

    In her autobiography she clamed to be born in 1915. but when she died it was revealed she was born in 1910, so 69 when she sang this final performance. I saw her in 'Fanciulla del West' here in Vancouver in 1966. I found her voice needed a bit of getting used to - it was so bright!

  • @SilverSingingMethod
    @SilverSingingMethod Před 11 lety +16

    What is great is you can hear the *real* sound of the voices in the theater. Not the mic'd/enhanced voices like today. You hear the ambient sound. Great! THIS is opera.

    • @EmilyGloeggler7984
      @EmilyGloeggler7984 Před 4 lety

      Silver Singing Method That is your subjective opinion. Opera is more than just healthy beautiful or ugly sound.

    • @draganvidic2039
      @draganvidic2039 Před 3 lety +1

      @@EmilyGloeggler7984
      No it’s not. They had no amplification but nowadays it’s common.
      Why are you almost always wrong? 😆

    • @paragod333
      @paragod333 Před 3 lety +1

      @@draganvidic2039 Emily enjoys being a troll.

  • @unclelouie3828
    @unclelouie3828 Před 3 lety +2

    How I ever got these videos 'under cover'- Amazing. Here I sit (like Miss Havisham) watching my old videos... and loving every minute. When you're taping your mind is on everything but the performance.

    • @VinylToVideo
      @VinylToVideo Před 4 měsíci

      If you made these, I wonder if you know what a service you were doing the world? I think now even the Met couldn't complain. If there are full or other performances they should be celebrated and be available for all to see.

  • @sharky-os2lm
    @sharky-os2lm Před 14 lety +4

    Absolutely LOVE how she's hanging onto the final note as she jumps! Brilliant!

  • @gaytenor
    @gaytenor Před 14 lety +6

    A remarkable performance by Kirsten with the voice still sounding youthful.

  • @BellaFirenze
    @BellaFirenze Před 8 lety +7

    Metropolitan Opera House
    February 10, 1979
    Tosca...................Dorothy Kirsten [Last performance]
    Cavaradossi.............Carlo Bergonzi
    Scarpia.................Cornell MacNeil
    Sacristan...............Renato Capecchi
    Spoletta................Charles Anthony
    Angelotti...............John Cheek
    Sciarrone...............Russell Christopher
    Shepherd................Robert Sapolsky
    Jailer..................Philip Booth
    Conductor...............James Conlon

  • @jmccracken1963
    @jmccracken1963 Před 14 lety +2

    Nice selection of highlights featuring THREE old pros (Kirsten, Bergonzi, and MacNeil) in roles that they excelled in, and a "young pro" conducting (James Conlon), and, of course that splendid Otto Schenk/Rudolf Heinrich production which was 20 years old and still going strong at the time of this performance. Even more amazing is that Kirsten is "still going STRONG" at the age of 68 - a testament to careful use of voice and careful role selection. Thank you VERY much!!!!!

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo Před 14 lety +4

    WOW. Now that's really a treasure.

  • @Thewisemonkey9
    @Thewisemonkey9 Před 13 lety +2

    Love this so much... most modern singers have not power or stamina... these guys had voices similar to titans! Kirsten's (Last performance) beats most current sopranos in thier prime... Bergonzi is a musical miracle and MacNeil is awesome!
    I think it must be the diet and hard living that made these people like this... these guys are all as fit as fiddles. Today/ Pick one up and they rattle and shake ;).
    Love this! Thank you!

  • @ChrisStockslager
    @ChrisStockslager Před 10 lety +10

    I assume she was replacing Verrett? What was she sick with?
    And my god, MacNeil's voice is just so damned HUGE! What I wouldn't give to have heard him live in the house.

    • @melbapatti
      @melbapatti Před 6 lety +1

      Verrett had recurring asthma problems, I believe.

    • @melbapatti
      @melbapatti Před 6 lety +6

      Chris Stockslager, You would have been floored by the size of his voice, especially in something like Tonio in Pagliacci where his high Ab sounded like it was coming up from the floor, through his body, and bouncing off the back wall of the theater. Then a few measures later he did it again, LONGER, on the high G. At age 59.
      He got a little unsteady in his last 7 or 8 Met years, but the size of his voice and his ringing top never deserted him. If you want to hear prime MacNeil, get the Sony CD of Ernani from the Met with Price and Bergonzi. His Act 3 contains some of the best baritone singing you’ll ever hear.

    • @Twentythousandlps
      @Twentythousandlps Před rokem +1

      No matter how late, MacNeil's voice filled that huge space as few can.

  • @ladyrotha5420
    @ladyrotha5420 Před 5 lety +3

    Still gives spinal chills!

  • @opertutto
    @opertutto Před 14 lety +3

    Thank you for sharing this splendid memento of Kirsten and Bergonzi. A remarkable document. I hope you will share other ones from the same period.

  • @wbondar
    @wbondar Před 9 lety +2

    AWESOME!!!!!!! Thanks for posting such a gem! William

  • @ShawDAMAN
    @ShawDAMAN Před 14 lety +3

    she was amazing.

  • @leandroabreu9532
    @leandroabreu9532 Před 3 lety +1

    Splendida orchestra !!!

  • @manolis.799
    @manolis.799 Před 3 lety +1

    What refreshing art!

  • @meganailsa
    @meganailsa Před 14 lety +4

    I always love the sound of Dorothy Kirsten's voice - wonderful piece of history.
    Can you post Vissi D'arte - it would make my day.Thank you

  • @sospello
    @sospello Před 14 lety

    Another treasure. Now I won't be able to sleep--serves me right for opening your site at 2 in the AM!

  • @xxsaruman82xx87
    @xxsaruman82xx87 Před 3 lety +1

    Bravi Tutti!

  • @Tenortalker
    @Tenortalker Před 8 lety +2

    Such a great artist Dorothy Kirsten. I am not sure that Tosca was the best role to display her wonderful voice, but she had the temperament to succeed in it. It works because even the screams and cries are delivered on pitch, the voice always well placed so no damage could be done. A really great lady!

  • @infrantasi
    @infrantasi Před 12 lety +3

    Patricia Racette sounded this good for about 8 months.

  • @waynebrasler
    @waynebrasler Před 12 lety +1

    Holy smokes! If you don't have the C.D. of three of Kirsten's hit pop albums for Columbia try to find it. She was one of the few opera talents who really could also sing pop as a pop singer. This is such a thrill seeing her here, brilliant still.

  • @UncleLouie867
    @UncleLouie867 Před 12 lety +3

    @chsiegel so glad my videos are appreciated. It wasn't easy!!

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo Před 14 lety +1

    Yes; February 10, 1979.

  • @ransomcoates546
    @ransomcoates546 Před 3 lety

    MacNeil was at that point at the end of his career where he sang wide open vowels scarily high. It’s a very unpleasant sound, but somehow the sheer ability to do it must have been connected to the incredible top notes of his prime.

  • @jameslevister9081
    @jameslevister9081 Před 4 lety +1

    Yes, the voice is very bright and overly youthful in timbre, but It's strong and the phrasing illuminatescharacter and drama at hand. She was a great vocal artist.

  • @Wolfcrag85
    @Wolfcrag85 Před 9 lety

    According to the performance's date, I believe she was either subbing for Teresa Zylis-Gara or Gilda Cruz-Romo.

  • @walterharper79
    @walterharper79 Před 5 lety

    She the best American along with Traubel to come out of the 40's and 50's Manon Lescaut and Butterfly very special

    • @laryhesdorffer2027
      @laryhesdorffer2027 Před 4 lety +1

      I would have to include Steber in that list.

    • @paragod333
      @paragod333 Před 3 lety +1

      Don't forget Eleanor Steber!

    • @walterharper79
      @walterharper79 Před 3 lety

      @@paragod333 GREAT SINGER BUT THE BOOZE GOT IN THE WAY KIRSTAN WAS ALMOST 70 WHEN SHE SANG THIS TOSCA THE BEST MANON AND BUTTERFLY I EVER SAW

  • @xxsaruman82xx87
    @xxsaruman82xx87 Před 3 lety +1

    I think you mean three 'old pros'. MacNeil is great too!

  • @vanmusician
    @vanmusician Před 11 lety +1

    She wore a dark wig because the libretto refers to 'bruna
    Floria'. Eleanor Steber sang it as a blonde - no idea how she got away with it!

  • @operabilia
    @operabilia Před 9 lety +1

    Too bad the "Vissi d'arte" is missing, but it's far enough to judge what that thrilling performance must have been.

  • @gregberg5559
    @gregberg5559 Před 9 lety

    My understanding is that she replaced Leonie Rysanek on this occasion. What a remarkable document this is.

  • @TreblesBasses
    @TreblesBasses Před 14 lety

    Is this at the Met?

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo Před 14 lety +1

    Kirsten was 69 here.

  • @vitroz
    @vitroz Před 2 lety

    Wow! She is 69 here and a total wonder

  • @GermanOperaSinger
    @GermanOperaSinger Před 14 lety

    Wasn't she supposed be something like 9 years older than she claimed? So was she actually in her 70s here?

  • @opera888able
    @opera888able Před 10 lety +1

    Ghastly recorded sound but a wonderful record of the great Diva's last work at the "Met". Still in great form. It must have been unforgettable to be there. Macneil relishing the role of the "rat"

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 Před 3 lety

      Ghastly? You obviously haven't listened to many live recordings.

    • @unclelouie3828
      @unclelouie3828 Před 2 lety +2

      "Ghastly sound" ? YOU try getting video equipment into 'that' place. Amazing it came out as good as it did.

  •  Před 2 lety

    Bergonzi sure suffered this one

  • @LordMgls
    @LordMgls Před 8 lety

    the question is... how could one sneak a camera into orchestra level in 1979???

    • @unclelouie3828
      @unclelouie3828 Před 7 lety +7

      Sneaking a Camera. Believe me- IT WAS "NOT" EASY. My Sony Video = A huge camera, cables to a deck- on & on. The lens alone was huge. Batter pack around my waist!! Good picture and sound for that time. ps- You needed two people to 'sneak' the "stuff" in. But aren't 'ya glad I did.

    • @LordMgls
      @LordMgls Před 7 lety +2

      I am more than glad that you did!!! I call it public service. Can you elaborate on the details?? It really must be a hell of a story!! greetings from Europe.

    • @LordMgls
      @LordMgls Před 7 lety +1

      for example, how about changing tapes (was it tapes?); how about keeping it hidden during the intervals; other spectators' reactions; going out unnoticed. unfortunately, nowadays, it is so easy to make a clip with a cell phone that too many people do it... and for no reason other than boasting they have the kind of money to seat in "those" seats... Looking forward for your stories!

    • @unclelouie3828
      @unclelouie3828 Před 7 lety

      It WAS tape. 20 minute REEL to REEL VIDEO-TAPE. Changing and threading the tape in the machine was almost IMPOSSIBLE. Too many stories to tell. But check out StuartLou and see all the "stuff' I managed to tape. I'm AMAZED at how still I could hold that camera.

    • @calibean7736
      @calibean7736 Před 7 lety

      LordMgls Well not a very good recording unless you're into the sound of coughing

  • @EmilyGloeggler7984
    @EmilyGloeggler7984 Před 4 lety

    Atrocious acting. Needed more work. She needed to take lessons from better opera singer-actresses like Eileen Farrell and Maria Callas. This is not opera. This is a joke.

    • @draganvidic2039
      @draganvidic2039 Před 3 lety

      Total bitterness Troll has opened her dirty mouth again...

    • @paragod333
      @paragod333 Před 3 lety +1

      @@draganvidic2039 Why does she (Emily) waste her time. Does she think she's funny? She's just silly. And a troll.

    • @manolis.799
      @manolis.799 Před 2 lety +2

      You should be ASHAMED of yourself to criticize such an artiste

  • @Jjjjjjjm
    @Jjjjjjjm Před rokem

    Where is the act one duet that used to be on her?Bergonzi and Kirsten just wonderful in it.