How to Mix a Small Amount of Thinset
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2018
- A bag of thinset usually only gives instructions to mix the whole bag. If you have limited time or will take longer than the working time of your product, you need to mix less than the whole bag. Pros can "wing it" by adding water to any amount of powder until it feels right. But if you're DIY like me, I'll show you my method to weigh the powder and calculate the proper amount of water needed.
This method works for any powdered product - thinset, grout, mortar, joint compound, etc.
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This is the best how to I've found for consistent mixing. He is organized, and instructive. Loved the music, his voice and demeanor.
Thanks so much 😊
Thank you so much for posting this video. The info is very clear & precise. There are a few manufacturers that will tell you the proper water to thinset ratio for smaller batches, eg, one quart of water to maybe 16 ounces of thinset, but most mfrs don't bother. Maybe they want you to use the whole bag & then run out & buy more of their product. I searched all over the internet to get this info for smaller batches & finally I struck gold by finding your video. Thanks!!
Glad it was helpful 👍🏻
I've watched so many videos like this, yours was by FAR the best and most helpful. Thank you
Thanks 😊
Excellent. Just the information I was looking for. Thank you
Thank you sir this was awesome. I don't know why companies expect noobs to use a whole bag at once.. cheers 👏🏾
Exactly!
Maybe I am a cynic, but I wonder if companies want you to use the whole bag so you have to run out & buy more of their thinset.
You've done me a big favor. Thank you!
Thank you! So very helpful. Just the info I needed. Explained clearly. And thanks for the tip on using a paint stirrer - worked just fine.
For other DIY's, I did gave a small scale but didn't have a one quart container, just an OJ bottle that listed liters, I Googled how many lbs does a quart of water weight - about 2 lbs. So my batch was 10lbs of Laticrete LHT mixed with 1 quart (or 2 Lbs of water). Mixture was fine.
Thanks again for posting this - could not be more grateful!
Glad it was helpful 👍🏻
Great job, you take it seriously.
Thanks. I only work for myself so I take my time.
looks great well done
Youre doing a great job
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for getting all of the guessing out Brother.
My pleasure
Brilliant! Thanks so much!
Thanks so much!!! Exactly the info I needed for a smaller batch!
Glad it worked for you 👍🏻
Awesome video! I have bookmarked this as my go to, for making small batches of mortar. Can't tell you how easy it is with the conversion and works perfectly. Thanks
Glad it was helpful
I have been mixing smaller amounts of thinset for the last week for a bathroom/shower project, I start mine my power estimated water based on how much work I plan to do for the day or timeftrame. I start pouring in Thinset and mixing till I get the texture of Thinset I desire for the particular type of tiling I am doing. It's easy process which takes me couple minutes to mix for smaller or sectional areas on schedule. When using hot mud that's a whole other beast there. I used 5 minute hotmud this morning for a job this morning, it will eat your lunch and spit you out if you are slow at spreading sheetrock texture. love 5 and 20 minute texture because I can get a job done turn around and its's ready for subsequent applications if needed. I don't have time to be standing-around waiting on sheetrock texture mud to dry before I can continue working!
Awesome. Thank you
This is almost like making bread dough! 😀 Nice video... this is excellent advice.
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Cheers for this ! nicely explained and done
Thanks
installing backslash in the kitchen working with small areas this is just what i needed to know Thanks
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Thank you, and great work too!
Thank you 😊
Thank you so much for making this video.
My pleasure
Nice work. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks
Thank you.
thanks, man. Very helpful.
Glad it helped!
Thanks for this video. I was just about to do the same and when I went to sort out the porportions... I realized I needed a scale. I tried using a regular scale with me on it holding the material but was not efficient. So I ordered scale. Your video allowed me to see that doing small batches is effective being that I am going SLOW to make as good as possible.
Glad it was helpful. Enjoy that tiling!
I’m doing this same kind of wall tile and the floor tile too. I’m facing the same Delia with the small batches of thin set. Now you’ve confirmed my thinking to weigh the thin set
And measurements. Thanks for your video.
Nice job, Dude!
Thanks
Thank you so much for this!
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Good job answered my questions
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Very good video
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Great info👍🏻
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Thanks dad!!!
My pleasure
Nice job and advice. I’m about to do all this the same way.
Good luck with your project!
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Thank you for figuring out how to downsize the amount of mortar to mix at a time. Just one suggestion: I noticed that you had your trowel ridges going horizontal (in the same direction at the length of the tiles). As I understand from other videos, you should set your tiles such that you move them perpendicular to the direction of the trowel lines for the 90% coverage that is needed. Thanks again!
You’re probably right. I’m not known as a tile guy. But they haven’t fallen off the wall yet so I guess I did okay. 😊
Awesome!! I’m in the same dilemma, gonna do this buddy!! Happy New Year 🎆
Good luck with that project!
@@handydadtv math worked like a charm! Mixed 10 lbs and used it all!! Zero wastage. Thanks so much!
Thanks so much for a great video that will save me lots of time!
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Good video
Thanks
Very helpful. About to help my son do his and it's great seeing videos like yours showing how to mix a small batch & how long you worked with it..👍👍
Thanks for the comment! Good luck with your project.
Thank you so much for the break down So 1 part to 5 parts is the Ratio.
Not sure that ratio is universal but you can start there.
Just always read the bag. The instructions for each thinset can and will be different.
You told me what I needed to know, I’m putting up a Schluter System Kerdi membrane on my shower. I have a 50lb bag and want to make small batches, maybe a quarter of a bag at a time.
I will do the math. By the way your level looks like a Bluegrass level that I have, I got it 50 years ago.
Got it from my dad. It’s probably older than me.
Thanks for producing this video. this information is well liked and appreciated, especially after I looked at the mixing instructions on the bag I purchased for a small project. What a freaking joke, the manufactures think everyone will need 50 lbs. all at once. Kind of like making pancakes, "Mix one box of pancake mix with one dozen eggs, 2 gallons of milk and a half pound of butter." Thanks again, and a well appreciated greetings from the back woods of North Michigan. USA.
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Great video!
Thanks 😊
When you're adding latex to thinset do you do your water the same or do you still use water at all I havent been able to get a clear answer from anyone
I used the latex INSTEAD OF water, per my tile store.
How do you store the rest of the thin set powder? Do you need to transfer to airtight container?
The bag isn’t airtight to begin with. I just left it in the open bag.
Same here bro. Slow, but done right.
And it’s so damn satisfying to sit back and stare at it when it’s done. Like, “look what I did!”
The best freaking thing ever think you!
My pleasure
did you have any issues with using a modified thinset over redgard. some people say that it does not cure properly since it can not off gas due to the redgard acting as a vapour seal, they also say that if you use modified you shoul let it cure for 4 wks before grouting. whats your take on this?
Hmmm maybe this was in the fine print? Whoops. But the tile and grout held fine.
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what do without a scale?
That's exactly what I was doing. I'm not a pro I'm just slow.. but nice video
I believe your drill is rotating too fast. Most mortars should be mixed with a slow rotating rate. Check bag for specifics.
Yes just read the back of my Prolite bag and it says 200rpm, it's these little details that tend to trip us all up. I was going to use regular mortar for larger 24 inch tiles even after watching the CZcams but I decided to actually read the PDFs from ProLite and they recommend a special mortar. CZcams is a great starting place but time and time again I've missed little critical things with my project because the the CZcamsr didn't know (also probably not their fault either) or I was not doing enough research. Still love CZcams (Premium is worth it for me) and guys like this are a great resource, blokes that actually are doing something, taking action, rather than sitting on their arses and complaining!
Would u say that cup is the same size as those generic red cups that u see all the time? Thx
I think it was a standard 12 oz Solo cup.
@@handydadtv thx man!
Does one need a mixing drill?
I was using a regular drill with a mixing drill bit.
Hi there, I mixed my thinset the same way you described here, but after 48 hours some of the tiles were coming off and the thinset was still a bit moist. Do you think I should have given it more time to cure considering it was in the basement room where the temperatures are around 67 degrees? Thanks!
you were probably way off on your proportions. did you weigh the thinset and water carefully? thinset cures, it doesn't dry. the water is locked into the crystal structure. 67 degrees is plenty to cure.
@@ssl3546 No, i think what i did wrong is add a little bit from another brand name of thinset. It wasnt very much but probably enough to screw up my thinset formula. I am okay now that I stuck with one kind of thinset. thanks!
I am wanting to use this method for my project. The issue that you do not address here is that the thinset may not be dry mixed in the bag at the time of filling. I read someplace that this is the reason they tell you to mix the whole bag.
I am planning to put the whole bag of dry thinset into a 5 gallon bucket and seal it with a lid and then roll or tumble the bucket to be sure that all the ingredients of the thinset are dry mixed before mixing small batches with water.
You think the contents separate in the bag? I’ve never heard of this before and I’ve watched a lot of pros’ videos.
Glad I saw ur post as I didn't even think of that, was gonna do half the bag and noticed towards the middle the powder seemed to have a lot more green to it than the top did and never even registered that could be a problen
Comes naturally after 15 years...no measuring here . Good luck guys ☺️
Oh wow.
There's like 100 videos on this topic; why don't the manufacturers thing of selling smaller bags?
Or better yet, just put a scoop in the bag! Like they do with powdered drink mixes.
There is a lighter 30LB bag that I got from Home Depot that is equivalent to 50LB that the best I could find. From ProLite I believe. If you want less get the premixed stuff.
Why's that's area red
That’s waterproofing called Redgard.
It is a shame that manufacturers do not take the time to scale smaller patches. If the product requires a ratio of x amount of water (quarts) to x amount of product (pounds), then I'll go back to Mrs. Camden's algebra class to solve the problem. I'm using Schluter's all-set in this example. The product ratio is 7.5 to 8.5 water to a 50-pound bag. Based on those ratios, I would calculate the following formula to create a 5lb patch.
Let x be the unknown variable that we are searching for. X represents the amount of water needed for a 5-pound mix.
Step 1: x/7.5 = 5/50
Step 2: x = 1/10 x 7.5
Step 3: x = 1/10/10 x 7.5/10 (we divided both sides by 10). The 1/10 gets crossed out, and you are left with 1, and 7.5/10 becomes .75
Final Answer = x =.75 (multiply 1 *.75).
If you don't like the .75 measurement you can convert it to ounces by using a quarts to ounces calculator. In this problem,. 75 quarts is equal to 24 ounces. In this example, for every 5 lbs of product I use, I need to add 24 ounces of water.
You can also use a 1lb ratio which comes out to 4.8 ounces of water for every 1lb of product.
I hope this helps you!
Mrs. Camden would be proud!
You might consider a lower speed for thinset. The higher speed puts more air than you need. I had this advice early in my tiling life. Otherwise well done.
I didn’t want to burn out my drill. Ideally, it should be a low speed, high torque angled drill.
HandyDadTV yes. Understand completely. I put in a surround today and tried to use your set up. But my scales wouldn’t register anything less than 5lbs. Thanks for your response. Keep up the good work.
You should have tared your scale. Since you chose the low end of the recommended water it kind of works out for you. If you hadn't, you would have made it too wet by having too little thinset. Also some pros use distilled water because tap water can be very dirty (municipal water included). I have a 4-stage filtration system for the entire house and I will still be using distilled water.
You aren’t supposed to mix it by weight but by volume.
Right. I weighed it first to determine how much to use in each batch.
I think you are leaving the mixing time out of the formula. If you need 5-10 minutes to mix 50 pounds, why would you need 5-10 minutes to mix 5 pounds? You don't need that amount of energy.
It's not about the amount, it's about the chemical reaction having time to take place.
grout needs some work
A scale bahahahahahaha
It worked for me!
Not to rag on you, I appreciate the video and found it helpful but I'm surprised so few people take precaution for their own safety. Use a mask! : o that dust aint good for your lungs or your eyes.