Ending The Tragedy of The Commons
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The Tragedy of the Commons is an economic idea made popular by the American ecologist Garrett Hardin, who used the analogy of ranchers grazing their animals on a common field. Individual ranchers will seek to add additional livestock, to increase their profits. The benefit of adding additional animals accrue to the rancher alone, while the costs are shared. The tragedy is that ultimately the field will be destroyed, due to overconsumption. This scenario is played out on a daily basis in numerous instances, having grave consequences for the world’s resources.
In todays video we discuss the research of Lin Ostrom (the first woman to win The Nobel Prize in Economics). Ostrom - based upon her research - did not believe that the “tragedy” in such situations was inevitable. Her research showed that if the herders decided to cooperate with one another, monitoring each other’s use of the land and enforcing rules for managing it, they could avoid the tragedy.
Todays video is associated with #TeamSeas - a group of CZcams content creators, lead by "Mister Beast" raising money to remove plastic waste from the ocean.
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This is a really important video. Thanks
"Nice job Jimmy, but there's no need to shout."
Patrick's deadpan humour gets me everytime.
Haha this had me in stitches.
And I said, “Nice job Jimmy, but there’s no need to shout …” 😂
He shouts a lot!
@@PBoyle Now you're shouting!
CAN EVERYBODY STOP SHOUTING?
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But what about the Hoodie???
*wipes a tear*... ah man, you're my favorite.. dying laughing at the Mr.Beast segment.
Same 😅😂
The man is a desert he’s so dry, nicely done Patrick.
s u p e r d r y
*deadpan*
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noun. Patrick Boyle.
"That isn't a crypto scam"
Hahahahahahshh
Was that a dig at how Team Trees ended up?
@@bertilhatt No, it was a dig at many big CZcamsrs starting or taking part in crypto scams.
The university where I studied (Radboud in Nijmegen, Netherlands) named one of the faculty buildings after Ostrom, great choice since her insights are a true inspiration for the new generation of students!
Sure, but stop the Sinterklaas racism and the "belastingdienst toeslagaffaire" and putting children of color out on the streets with fake tax audits and penalties!
@@mobileandroid5299 fyi, the greatest criticism to those aspects coms precisely from the students from that faculty…
OMG, Patrick Boyle is so f’ing savage. Patrick Boyle + Jimmy Beast + hoodie = a better planet. Count me in!!
Patrick just did a "No, this is Patrick" to MrBeast 😂
OMG, Patrick, you are killing me! The gift of dry humor!
He needs to start a comedy channel, seriously.
This is such a ridiculously good video thanks for your humour Patrick
If Hardin is correct, then I need to own some atmosphere, and a part of Lake Michigan, to ensure I have air to breathe and water to drink.
That is absurd.
There are things that we MUST share and use communally.
The ocean is one another.
The planet Earth is our ultimate Commons.
If we don't come together and develop rules to govern our common global behavior,
then the "Tragedy of the Commons"
will be the fate of the Earth.
"jimmy beast", I laugh so hard hahah
"Escape from Academia" - that's bad. We all need to be more careful about leaving that particular gate closed and locked at all times. Once any of it gets out, there is no telling what havoc it will wreak.
Modern academia has become a cancer on society
I worked in agribusinesses in the bush in Australia for ten years. I found that most family farmers want to secure the viability of the farm for generations to come. They are also keen greenies - in their own way - Landcare is a good example. And we were a bank too. The best way to manage risk in agriculture is to do it locally - not from Pitt Street Sydney or from Melbourne.
I remember only hearing one perspective of the tragedy of the commons in a political science course I took. It was really refreshing to hear that there is more to the issue than just top down oversight.
check the incredible damage done to efforts to fight the pandemic by imposing a central, top-down solution and mismanaging the vaccine deployment - handy present day tragedy of the commons example
Hey Patrick this is one the best, interesting and most inspiring videos I've ever seen on CZcams. You are great public servant! Congratulations! Thank you.
This was an amazing way to introduce the project! Creative and very "you" hahaha , keep it up!
On a serious note another thing to look at is using the washed up seeweed as a natural fertaliser for local community gardens. If it is not overly contaninated with plastics. It was a very common practise in Connemara. I met an elderly gent in Spiddal and he was saying back in his day there would be no high tide line of Seaweed as it was all taken to fertalise the land.
Hi
To the best of my knowledge….
That sounds good in theory but where I live in Canada you cannot remove washed up seaweed from any beach without taking out a permit/license from the local government.
Cheers
L.G.B
@@stevendefehr4393 There are alway local issues for sure. In Ireland you need a licence to harvest the seaweed but the tideline washed up seaweed is a natural biomass and free to take away. (Don't quote me on that it may have changed.) I know we took some in a youth project I worked on and we supplied the Local Community Garden. The local council supplied Black bags and litter pickers and picked up all teh rubbish from a designated point. All worked quiet easily and everyone was onboard. That was a few years ago. I remember the kids complaining about the smell of the seaweed as we were forking it into the trailer. Worked great and would make a great Gorilla Gardening project . If the intention is right the local councils should be onboard.
Many of the channels that I subscribed to are endorsing #TeamSeas, but Patrick is the one who convinced me to donate
Mate - this is an awesome video. Loved it!!! Your comic genius is also much appreciated on top of a very well put together 10 minute lecture!
Another great content from Patrick. In my opinion, a perfect blend of knowledge and entertainment. Thank you kindly! 😁👍
I love your videos. They're funny and also so insanely educational. Thank you for putting in the hard work for making them and hope you keep up the great work!
Professor Boyle... This is your finest video by far... 👏👏👏
Excellent topic and immaculately presented. Thanks
I really liked how you tied in the theory in with the action explaining how this is important. Well done!
11:40 - Plants Vs. Zombies game music in a Patrick Boyle video. What a time to be alive.
Excellent explanation of why something I thought was fact was only a partial model.
I learn every day watching this channel with a free chuckle, brilliant mate cheers for what you do!
Your delivery is excellent!
"... And then he brought up that Ireland's most respected youtuber, Nico, is going to dye his hair green for the day. And I said, look Jimmy Beast, I get it, you haven't watched my videos."
Patrick, your sense humor is so dry and refreshing. Keep it up! (no shouting intended)
Patrick, I am routinely entertained by your dry and witty videos! And so I just subscribed.
Fantastic episode as always professor!
Meeting Ostrom was one of the highlights of my graduate school experience.
I wish I could like this video 10x over. Thank you for your contributions to the world Patrick.
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing, Patrick!
Thanks for the great message! Really brought it together at the end
Government: "Hey you should--"
People: "No thanks, we do it better without you."
Tell this to Libyans and afghans. In '90 government collapsed in Soviet Union, and Eastern Europe. What we had? Mafia. Lybia, Afghanistan have failed governments, what they have now? Civil war
@@Kannot2023 A failed government is different from a government that is in good order, but allows a great deal of individual freedom.
@@Kannot2023 that because you all decided ghadafi had to go after a rocket hit an oil refinery. And he wanted trade oil in something other than dollars.
@@Kannot2023 - Government shill detected
How's that "we do it better without you" going then? Doesn't seem to be going too well.
Several great points were brought up in this video. Thanks!
Great channel direct, informative , helpful and funny
Brilliant! Pls keep these coming. Let us sponge the knowledge
"...working together to raise money for something other than a crypto scam..."
Just before you said that, your video was interrupted by a commercial for a crypto scam 🤣.
Lemme guesz, solana?😂 been 2 weeks straight that i see their ads ffs
@@Travie68 Don’t you wanna learn how to make a 7 figure salary in less than a year. No experience, no money, or credit. Btw Do you have money or credit to get started? Lol
@@Travie68 lmao, I was beginning to think nobody knew these shitcoins were a scam.
In 6 years of Vet school and another 3 years of Ph.D. in sustainable livestock husbandry I only had 12 hours of "official" economics lessons, never mind complex structures and solutions. It took me to launch my own startup to dive into the matter, and it still shocks me how related (and underrated) the subjects are.
Brilliant! Just, Brilliant!
I can't remember, was it Tom Nash, or Coffeedzilla who brought me to your channel(and finding out that you exist), but boy, am I happy about it.
A great message, and a humorous delivery, from gent who always talks sense.
Its good to see you giving back by helping an up and coming youtuber find success as well. Good luck to this young Mr Beast on his journey.
Great lesson Patrick, thank you. Nice way to use economic theory to explain a real world problem.
I understand that the problem here is the proposed problem solving method itself and not the polution.
Looking t the broader picture is not trivial.
What a great explanation of what appears to be an overwhelming situation. Nice one.
great video, your quality has really improved!
The set up and transition was fantastic. Well done.
It is so nice to listen to someone intelligent. Many thanks Mr Boyle.
30% expectation you'd splice a shot of you in the hoodie... 100% impressed... Best channel on CZcams for a growing number of reasons. Love your work.
It'd have to be photoshopped - Patrick was born in a suit
Amazing video. Love the humor
very good information and an even more wonderfully ambitious project
Patrick talking about Hardin & Ostrom?! I'm here!! 🏃♀️
What about reducing the plastic creation in the first place?
Also what do they do with the plastic once recovered?
Outstanding video. Thank you Patrick!
I just learned about the literature of Hardin & Ostrom this fall semester during my studies at university. Thanks for providing so much relevent data in this video.
there's a reference to Garrett Hardin in Asimov's Foundation series (Apple TV is making some effort to serialize it atm) his work created a bit of stir at the time of publishing
The delivery is so deadpan... I love it. Keep churning them out Mr Boyle
Always great videos!
Absolutely brilliant. Well done
Sure, I'll contribute to Jimmy Beast's cause just to see Patrick in a Mister Beast hoodie. Not happy that that weasel Mat Pat is involved, but seeing Patrick in a Mister Beast hoodie is important, dammit.
Why is mat pat a weasel? Im not caught up.
Fantastic video, i like the combination of education on top of education with some good old conservation and environmentalism on a practical level thrown in...very nice done Mr. Boyle.
GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER PATRICK. YOU'RE DOING GOD'S WORK ON EARTH. THANK YOU.
I would love to here your thoughts about inflation and how it will play in the years to come. Thank you for keeping up quality videos with your comedy 🤩
He did an interview with someone last year talking about why demographic trends would likely increase inflation.
You are awesome, Patrick. Thank you for raising this issue! I'm heading over to TeamSeas to see how I can help.
WOW! Easily the best video you've ever done! And you always create great content. Intro'ing with great research and history, to tie that into an INCREDIBLE example of what community can accomplish today. Had me pumping my fist in the air as if Arsenio Hall was in the room (youtubers might be too young to get the reference😁)
I remember .
Loved his flattop haircuts !
sometimes I watch these videos not for the content but for the deadpan banter Patrick is so godly at.
Dude, I freakin love you, the good looks/fine threads, along w the incredible ability to speak/ present info are just a drop in the bucket compared to not only the awesome topics, which are informative as hell btw, but the subtle genius you possess and often portray thru the most hilarious sarcastic remarks on top of it all?? What's not to love?!?
Mad respect to PB on F - the man!
Keep it up! Love it!
- Jesse
Love Patrick’s humour. We want you in the hoodie PATRICK! So glad I watched this video. :D
Thank you - this was a quality post!
I know I would be dead the day I see you wearing a hoodie.
I liked the topic of today, never heard of it before. I agree with the final tought: solution for big problems must come from all sides, not just from top to bottom.
"Tragedy of the Commons"
Patrick: 😀
Thank you for another great video! This does relate to economics, so it seems quite on-brand for your channel.
I've used the phrase "The Tragedy of The Commons," but until now I'd never heard of Garrett Hardin, much less Lin Ostrom. But it sounds like Ostrom's research could be extremely helpful for us today. Maybe she should be much better known, along with her conclusions.
It seems we're going about fixing the planet in a messy, every direction at once fashion, with top-down legislation and bottom-up initiatives happening simultaneously. What really interests me (at this moment sitting in front of the computer) is why so many people who utterly rely upon the environment _haven't_ been cooperating with each other and self-regulating like Ostrom says they should.
Maybe it's because until now all the people who use the ocean or the atmosphere or the forests haven't thought of themselves as a community. In her early research on the Las Angeles watershed, the people she was studying really did live next to each other, and they made decisions about water use that had immediate observable impact on their neighbors. Maybe that's why they managed to work out a compromise that didn't overextend the resource.
When someone throws a piece of trash in the ocean, they're not thinking of the ocean as a shared resource. They're thinking of it as an infinite sink, and their little contribution seems so small it just disappears. There's no thought that their specific bit of trash might get swallowed by a turtle or wash up on a beach thousands of miles away. The turtles and the people who live on distant islands don't feel like members of our community, they feel like inhabitants of other worlds.
Maybe it's that sense of the environment as an infinite sink, and the belief that people in different nations have competing and not shared interests that has stopped us from working together and making bottom-up rules. Until now, that is.
Great ideas, full of optimism, love from Nigeria
another great video. thank you.
Awesome initiative and great explanation of common pool resources and how they can be better managed. Although a bit out there for your channel perhaps, I'd be interested to know your thoughts on the ideas presented in the book 'Doughnut Economics' (or maybe it's Donut). Thank you
Your videos are fantastic👍🏼
Patrick, could you do more of this kind of content. You have a high believability in my books (and I guess in many others).
Amazingly story telling abilities
This channel is getting better every day. 👍
I remember reading this in Undergrad Econ and the analogy stuck in my mind.
Wow, this is good! I have been thinking about the tragedy of the commons since college in the 1980's. As a Libertarian, I tend to favor privatization, but I love the perspective of grass-roots rules and social cooperation to solve these problems! Thanks!
Privatization? Can you explain how it relates to this situation with the commons? Are you expecting someone like Bezos to work out how to monetize cleaning up the oceans?
@@dudertino51 I imagine selling fishing rights in each 1mile by 1 mile square of the ocean. Each square would have a fluctuating market price, based on its productivity. The owner of those rights would have an incentive to preserve the ability of the square to produce fish. This owner would prevent over-fishing and start lawsuits against those who pollute it. Many of these fishing rights would be owned by boat owner-operators. Some would be owned by big corps. And there is nothing wrong with an environmental org buying up as many of these as they can and then not fishing them... By bet is that this would produce a cleaner ocean, with sustainable fishing, than could UN or national ownership of the oceans.
@@freesk8 it seems to me you have too much faith in the human race. What you describe is really not that far off govt regulated. You even talk about legal recourse. Who runs these courts?
@@uxpjsxu The only three government functions I advocate are police, courts and national defense. They should be funded by voluntary contributions and user fees. In the case of adjudicating a fishing rights claim, these will be private contracts, so the court should require a fee for resolving the case. The parties will also be free to enter in to private arbitration.
Sorry, I am not English native speaker. Even though I am leaning towards libertarian sides, there are many things that's still debatable. Should copyright and patent exist at all? Should companies that use plastic in their products be taxed higher rates? Should we abolish tobacco excise? Should we charged all people that use road?
Comedy genius! I always make your videos a viewing priority. Appreciate your ability to condense complex topics into manageable meals ✅
thanks patrick; agree with all you have said and excited that youtubers can work together for the common good which is surely a positive and important thing; meanwhile i am trying to understand why 34 people actively dislike this video
As always, insightful and well articulated. Dr. Ostrom was a Professor at Indiana University, not the University of Indiana. Go Hoosiers!
I am glad someone called out Mr.Beast on his channel miss-branding.
And here we are. 40 years later. Cali in a water shortage and an almond farm controlled by one family uses more water than every LA citizen combined
was not expecting you to join in the TeamSeas stuff, i am glad you did despite it being "off-brand"! :D
That Jimmy Beast guy seems okay, glad you decided to team up. Tragedy of Commons had got me thinking top down approach is what Facebook seems to be doing with its rebrand, meanwhile there are dozens of vibrant metaverse communities already out there growing on Discords and Telegrams collaborating to tackle the sustainability of their own ecosystems. Looking forward to seeing how it all plays out
This Mr. Jimothy Beast, seems like they have potential to be an upstanding citizen.
Another solution to original shepherds and pastures: shepherds are fighting each other killing theirs cows. Herds are reduced, pastures are regenerated
Excellent video
Contribution done. Nice one Patrick.
Wonderful jacket. The texture and color are striking.
What an amazing video. I wish I had 10% of the wit and knowledge Patrick has.
Bit late, but fantastic video!
I have to disagree on that one and I think you fall in the exact opposite trap. Small and nimble solutions work well with problems when the directly affected area is also small and well defined, especially if it's small enough that the human actors have personal relationships with each other, but the atmosphere and the oceans are a truly global common area problem that needs global solutions. I am sorry but this tiny affords are not going to save us. In fact those feelgood efforts will be abused by those that make billions by using the air and water as free trash dump. This is plastic "recycling" (They just burn it and call it "thermal recycling") all over again. A huge scam pulled by the industry in order to remove responsibility and the threat of actually biting regulation that would actually reduce pollution from themself and put it on the shoulder of the general consumer knowing very well that the outcome will be that nothing will be done.
very timely video
I loved this video ❤