Trex Deck w Camo Clips Hidden Fasteners
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I have Trex deck, 25 years old, Winchester Grey. Looks brand new in 2023. Trex is extremely heavy!
I guess every story is a little different. My parents have a ten-year-old Trex deck that is horrible. When it gets extremely cold in Ohio the deck bangs pops and cracks all throughout the winter. It is also faded terribly and needed several of the fasteners replaced already which have rusted away. Personally I cannot stand plastic decking.
@@shaneapplegate1975 then install a wood deck and begin sealing with wood sealer
@@Swimfinz I did. I just personally believe that everyone talks Trex decking up like it is flawless. In reality it has lots of problems no one tells gullible homeowners who know nothing about this overpriced underperforming decking. I know it's about a 50-50 split with customers who have Trex decking half of them loved it the other half hate it. I can't say I personally hate it. I just know it has a lot of problems and it's extremely pricey for having all those problems.
@@shaneapplegate1975 ... Try this... Build a redwood deck in a high UV location like the American Southwest. You will not even make it one year with redwood.
@@Swimfinzyou wouldn't make it one year with redwood in a low uv area because it's redwood. Your arguments just keep getting dumber and Dumber dude and all Shane has done is tell the story of his experience with this garbage decking. Me I'm not so nice Trex is the absolute worst decking you can buy it's literally garbage their bs hangers clips can't handle 50km/h winds but yet white cedar can 😂 I'm missing a bunch of siding on my house because their clips failing and the wind picking up the decking and smashing the house with it because it hit the ground. Deck frame is still in perfect shape only thing that failed is the Trex.
Finally a clip that stands in place. I've never had those. Dammit man.
They are the best ones we have tried
It’s all that bending over that really gets to you after a while!
Very true
Ботинки 👍👌, никакой гвоздь не пробьет.
never seen this method , but looks insane 👌
Huge back saver and faster
Как они любят усложняет, да ещё все это преподносят как совершенство
They aren't plastic they are a type of fibrous polyurethane molded into that shape. And new composite tech is getting lighter and lighter, so they hold up just fine, there's also a small metal tongue inside the clip that retains the screw...
Just in case you are not sure of the definition of plastic it is a petroleum that includes all polyurethanes polyethylene polystyrene acrylics polyester and PVCs. There are also many other types of plastics but these are just your basic and they are all considered plastic. FYI. Don't forget if you live in the state of California it's known to cause.ALL PLASTIC 🤯
Dude my back feel better just watching
Right? What a difference
You get down on your knees to attach the spacers, the slabs and eventually the spanner, so you can easily just stay in that position to screw in those few screws...?
You could and the camo drive is faster and you can stand up
Those fasteners will never stand the test of time! What a waste of time and money!
oops。
The fasteners are made with stainless steel screws and clip. The sides are plastic but they only hug the joist for a temporary hold.
Masaż klasyczny Poznań
I see why you wear a drool bib! Lol
They are pricey but work and look great 👍
Yes they are and if you use it multiple times a month they are worth it
Ещё один космический корабль для закручивания шурупов 🤦👻
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Завидуй молча
Так валил бы в чебурнет..
@@user-wf7yt8fk7o давай ты не будешь говорить что мне нужно делать, и я не скажу куда тебе надо идти
Удлинитель чтоб спина не сгибалась!!!
I found out when I lived down south Trex decking is some of the most miserable unacceptable material to use in southern locations. The salty environment makes the fasteners disappear in the blink of an eye. The sun warps the decking in every which direction and on extremely hot days the oil emerges from the plastic and makes it as slippery as ice. My personal opinion of Trex decking is it is a over-priced under-performing product that I would never use on a personal projects.
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Every time I think I’m ready to start my deck, I see another contraption that I must have
Haha right? So many options these days
WHO INVENTED THIS MIRACULOUS FLOORING TOOL?? ❤️❤️❤️ IT! SUPERB!! THK U, CARPENTER MAN!! OR WOMAN, OR CREW!! LV IT!!
That's fancy. The extra cost for all that special stuff probably $400
The cheaper clips are like 300
A box, so just those clips are like 400 a box. A big deck takes 4 boxes usually. Not cheap lol
Шайба и саморез... все! Не благодарите
I highly recommend the cortex marksman pro.
I used many different systems and the toe screws really hold.
The tools your using for the install are over a grand on Amazon.
Unless you picture frame all the slot ends show and that's just butt ugly.
It’s gonna look good for a few years until it starts warping because he did not have his joist on 12 inch centers he has them on 16 inch centers and the composite decking material is so heavy I can guarantee you it’s going to start sagging warping going up and down and pull in the support Joyce apart at the band board and it will fall. I have seen this on multiple homes and when I walk up and I see what’s happening I tell them exactly
I've seen diff qualities
'Joyce" ......lol
Besides it's like a trampoline when you walk on it
Right and i think trex is 9 inches on stringers.
@@keithlea6804 9 inch centers if the five quarter boards are run diagonal
Со стремянки удобней и быстрей
Неее,.. Это, походу, для у кого поясница поломана и в коленях минискам хана!?!!! 😲 😄 А со стремянки им тогда ещё и бинокль надо будет!! 😄
Скоро покажут как обои клеить через замочную скважину,😄
Cool
Thanka
Well I'll be. I think this fella sportin' a pair of Irish Setter 838 'Wingshooters'! Comphy boots, my favorites!
오~ 나무에 나사박지 않고 깔끔하게 고정할 수 있겠네요
나사를 박는거어요^^
You have to put joist guard on the top of the deck joists or they'll rot long before the trex is done. Also it helps if you put all your boards in with the clips, then screw them all down together so the spacing is perfect.
Where is the waterproofing membrane tape for the top of the joists? Moisture will get between the joist and Trex and rot the joist!
Tape is a debatable topic
@@RevivehometipsWaterproofing membrane on top of the joists adds protection from moisture and wood rot. Much better to have it than not to have it. Not even “debatable”.
Otherwise, the job and products look clean! 👍
@@ZL1Rocket Yep. No debate. A lot of municipalities are starting to require it with good reason.
Are the camo clips made of cheap vinyl? I used something close to this about 20 years ago and you couldn’t tighten the screw toooo much or it was about useless if stripped
The screw and clip are stainless steel. The U shaped part is plastic but it's not structural, it's just to hold the screw in place before you tighten down
Leaves a lot to be desired as a system!
What are the pros and cons of this tool? It's essentially just a really long bit extender?
А нахрена(зачем) через такую трубу крутить???!! 😲 Чтобы сложнее казалось и потому дороже содрать с клиента???!! 😲 😄
Работать стоя
@@mactep3376 так ещё нужно попасть в самых саморез..тем более саморезы черные самые фуфлыжные..тогда уж и саморезы мог бы использовать нормальные
Can these be used for wood? I know you would have to route a channel down the side of the board.
I know how much regular wood boards cost right now I can only imagine how much that stuff runs.
Like the ones that go in the side better.. also spaces it better
God damn it why don't we think about that, damn it.
Looks interesting ?
but you didn’t say anything how does this piece of metal works or what’s the purpose for it??
Я конечно понимаю..милвоки и все такое..но что эта за хренотень вместо биты?
Won’t be long till this tool becomes obsolete moving aside for a new one and the fasteners will no longer be made, ask me how I know.
Eventually and until then it's a great tool
How do you know?
Yeah and they break and you have to do it all over again... those thing are shit! And slow. No thank you
They work great and ate 2x faster
We have don't many decks with them and have zero break. The screw and clip are stainless steel
We all know how well plastic holds up in the elements
Except they're stainless steel. Just used 2000 of them
The original bord stretcher
Это называется ленивый строитель , лень присесть на корточки или согнутса.
Excuse where can I get the extencion for the drill? Any body does knows please. Thank you
Try looking yourself. You could have found it in less time than it took to make this comment
Are they really as easy/quick as the the Camo video show/state?
Yes. It's a learning curve and once you understand how they work, it's 10x faster than anything else we have tried. Doesn't take that long to learn either
Look out for fading and scratches.
You are exactly right once these boards have been down for a while if you need to replace one the new board will stick out like a sore thumb and never match. I know wood decking is the same way but with a little bit of time your replacement board blends in just fine tracks never does the new plastic board always sticks out like a neon sign.
This is a deck board that will start warping In the rain and sun and snow I've seen them do it
It would have saved a lot of comments if you had explained the system that you were using.
Yes it's hard to explain everything in a short video. We have longer videos explaining the camo tools hidden fasteners and Trex install
@@Revivehometips looking forward to it-subscribed.
Except the deck boards are a Fiberon product. Fiberon’s catalog features and endorses the camo products. Upon installing my 11 x 12 raised deck we had no need for the camo and because we did not assemble the tool we were able to return it. With the deck raised, we just stood on the ground. No need for the extender. Doing many decks or a large deck maybe makes sense but one average sized deck, save the $200.00 plus dollars and buy an extra deck chair instead!
See you know alot about decks!
Camo is not a fiberon product! They are their own company. Fiberon just offers it on their website!
Many companies make hidden fasteners.
All composite manufacturers offer grooved boards for hidden fasteners.
And tell me you don't need it when your doing a large deck with 3000 clips. Be an idiot and fk your knees and back up if you want to
Camo is not a fiberon product. Camo fasteners can be used with many co outside decks, including both trex and fiberon.
Well looks good only thing is that board will break or chip off
My trex deck has never chiped, cracked, or broken in almost twenty years!
Un exemplaire merci
Зато нижний брус на земле лежит, хорошее крыльцо получается на 2 года хватит
Внимательнее смотрите
Warsaw screws!! No FBI protection!! Use golden perite steel screws!!
Excellent Improvement
All that does is make the deck look even more plasticy. Visible screws never hurt anything.
I had these brackets for about 4 years on deck they're metal and work ok. HOWEVER biggest issue is when one board gets damaged you have to get whole deck back apart. Mice made a whole on my deck right by the house about 2 inch in diameter cuz the gap between boards gives them perfect starting point for chewing. If I had the screws threw boards it would take me 10 minutes to replace them. With these hidden screws I don't even wanna take apart whole deck
Forgot the weather prove tape on top of joists to stop rot
Love trex decks just sucks you can't walk on them in straight sunlight. They get hot.
Thanks for the tip I did not know that
Anything is hot in 100° in direct sunlight. We tested it with other decking and wood decking.
@@Revivehometips composites are much hotter in direct sun my friend. Ample testing out there if you seek it.
For example, on a typical sunny 80 degree day, composites have tested as hot as 150 degrees. Thats second degree burn territory.
Super
Могу подсказать технологию (чубайс разработал по нано.технологиям)две скобы и два клина и мжно делать стяжку полов.
Where can I purchase those clip screws from?
Next time install the plastic waterproof strips in top of the stringers. 100 % water proof!! (Oops)
I hope that is not real wood decking. If so the gaps will widen as the wood dries out and shrink over time...
It's Trex composite decking
It is all plastic - it will break when the sun UV light has fried it long enough...
Triple the price of wood and they make a plastic faster. Hahaha
The fasteners actually stainless steel with a stainless steel screw and clip. The plastic part is for convenience of holding over the joist while you push your boards together. The plastic piece could fall off and it doesn't matter.
Радикулит?
Don't need that "I've never worked a real days work in my life" extension for the drill lol
Well if you install decks all the time you would understand how much of a time saver this is and then we can move onto the next job faster and save your back
Haha yep
I'd rather spend 2 days on my hands knees screwing in 3000 fasteners instead of spending $170 and a few hours. Just so I can say I work hard lol.
What a complete idiot!
Somebody's gonna get rich!
The crews are in,but how do they hold down the boards ?
Girls tools 🤪
It's faster
Cool.
Plastic fades in 10 years is still going to look like s***. And if you're in a very hot climate, it's probably going to look like crap after being warped for 10 years. Plastic has the very highest coefficient of expansion and that goes for all building materials.
So pressure treated last 15 to 20 yrs. This stuff last 30 yrs but literally cost 10 times more.
Definitely not the low bidder guys. Get whyya pay for, folks. Ya want it right, or right now?
The cost of the clips is enormous but is worth it. The amount of absorbed heat associated with Trex is not. Install exotic hardwood instead and get the best of both. Low heat and long life. Tigerwood and Ipe looks better, lasts longer, has cooler temperatures and is less expensive than Trex.
It all depends on what you want. Exotic hardwoods are more expensive than Trex and you have to stain every year or two. Trex is low maintenance and will outlast the wood products
@@Revivehometips The heat was the main deciding factor for me with the deck boards. You can't walk on Trex barefoot or set on the deck in the summer. It's like having blacktop pavement with the heat it absorbs. The Tiger wood is actually cheaper than Trex also. I personally have a 14'x50' Tigerwood deck. The deck boards were $26 each for 14ft 1x6 "plus" thick with both sides grooved from Advantage Lumber. The grooved 16ft Trex boards are $42+ tax. I bought 102 of them. I framed the deck with 2x10s set 1 ft on center with an 8' joist length using joist hangers. The entire deck is screwed together using stainless steel fastners. The posts are set on top of 3 foot deep 12" sonotube poured with 5k psi concrete and anchored down with 18" J hooks embedded and used a post base to secure. I painted the deck framing white to stop the carpenter bees. The joist tops are covered in rubber joist tape. It is a bit overkill but I'm a licensed residential home builder in South Carolina. So I do it the way it should be done to make it a once and done lifetime deck. Trex has been having issues peeling. The Tigerwood will go a beautiful gray color if you dont oil it and lasts 25+ years. If you want that wild look and a deck that lasts forever, it only takes about 2 hours to mop the oil on every year. I oiled all 4 sides before I put the board down though.
What happens when they get weathered or uv damaged. Do they break and allow the board to lift?
Dude your neve going to finish that project that way.
Who shows you that home depot...lmao
Haha camo did
Das cool...
How to take something simple and make it complicated. wTF?🤔
Why wouldn't you want it with no spaces?
You want space for expansion and contraction of boards and allow water to drain
Thorogood Moc Toe Boot
That's the only well-built thing in this video!
Angel is right. Cheap shot never works.......oh ya tree made with pvc is also suitable. Sun eats pvc.
Time will tell but this see solid
?? Зачем так сложно? Вы что, творите!
Ezie peazie
Imagine buying that monstrosity of a bit and then using it for real 🤣
А оранжевая "палка" зачем? Без нее ни как???
작업편하네요..굿 👍 👍 👍 👍
Great! If you drop you Credit card you'll have it back by the WE.
That's not even biggest issue. Biggest issue is tiny rocks getting stock in grooves between boards. Where those come from you ask? Your shoes. I had to spend like 2 hours to get all of them out on a little 15'x7' deck.
Он беременный, не может наклоняться
Yup, its just that simple, an impact , and torx bit and your deck can be stolen
I replace all these trex decks for people. Half of them that use clips bow after 1 or 2 winters. Maybe you are in the lucky 50%
Come on man
Lets go Brandon
Do you like those clips over tiger claw .
Haven't tried tiger claw but these clips are awesome!
They are garbage, tiger claws are way easier to use.
Customer must have deep pockets.
So you need a special tool to screw them in?
When you buy the hidden clips it comes with the drill bits and you just need a drill low setting
Lazy is all I can say! Sign of true intelligence!
Это чтоб закрутить шурупы надо дорогую прибуду купить🤔
I do not think so... Only for plastic decking... May be..
imagine bringing that onto a job site
Это что для плотников- паралитиков чтоб спину не гнуть ?
Should always flash cover your joists to keep the weather out of them or will be the failure that structure wasting expensive deck boards.
I remember when shit was so much easier like yesterday;)
That's cute
I know right 😂😂😂