Toyota Supra MK5 Ultimate Buyers Guide | WATCH THIS FIRST
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- 👋 Watch this before you buy a Toyota Supra! Buying a Toyota Supra could be the best automotive decision you'll make! The Toyota Supra is a sportscar on a reasonable budget that has amazing performance and capabilities. Before you spend money on a new or used Toyota Supra here is a buyers guide to make a well informed decision on what to look out for when buying a MK5 Toyota Supra! This video is the ultimate buyers guide to a Toyota Supra MK5. What should you look for when buying a Toyota Supra? How many miles are too many for a Toyota Supra? Is it expensive to insure and maintain a MK5 Toyota Supra? Are there reliability concerns with a Supra? Let's go over all of the information I have after owning two new Supras. The Toyota Supra is very easy and cheap to maintain if you do things yourself, or if your car is still new form the dealer. The Toyota Supra is pretty reliable over all the years and the only slight issue is with 2021 cars burning some oil. Its only some of the 3.0 cars for 2021 but it's an easy thing to live with. Some minor things have popped up with Supras, but most cars are still under warranty and get fixed easily. And if something pops up it's usually small. I've never had any issues with either of my 2020 or 2023 Supras. If they are well maintained and not abused these will be very reliable. Even after abuse the Supra seems to still handle it well. On the used market the 6 cylinder Supra will go for mid $40k up to MSRP. I wouldn't spend over sticker on a Supra regardless of the spec. So these seems to hold good value. Higher mileage Supras 3.0's with 40k miles might even be on par with the price of a used low mileage 2.0. I don't see buying a 2.0 since a used low mileage 3.0 will cost the same and you get so much more performance. The automatic and manual are both fun to drive and it just depends on what you want in your car. Overall buying a new or used MK5 Supra is a safe bet. Reliable and easy to own, and such a blast of a sportscar!
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I bought the 2020 3.0 spec’d Supra and put 115,000 miles on it in 3 years. It still runs as smooth as the day I bought it. A lot of people turned their noses up at this car when it came out, but I’ve done nothing but broke necks in traffic driving it. Toyota did a really good job with the curb appeal on this platform and it’s an absolute blast to drive.
How in the fuck did you put those miles in 3 year?!?!?
I have owned my 2020 Supra since Oct 1 ,2019 Modified it I'm the Summer of 2020. Just basic 93 tuned, catless DP, K& N intake, & lower springs! Cars been bulletproof proof. I have never had a check engine light on. I just paid it off & don't see me selling it. I'm 48 owned a ton of Sports cars.
This one has been the funniest & fastest & Most reliable! I wish i had a 6 speed , but still zero chances I'm getting rid of my 2020 ! 👍
Wow that's impressive!
Bro, there’s a dealership selling a 2020 Supra with 73k miles on it, what do you think, should I buy it?
@Pirata-ch8sp Well at least the ECU is wide open. I own a modified 2020 zero problems! If u can get the car & it's in good shape all the way around. For 37k to 35k due to Milage jump on it as long as it was maintained right!
I bought a 2022 premium new. I was 74 at the time. Have 14000 miles on it. A great car. I've own muscle cars thru out my life. This has been the best one. I don't baby it. 20 in the head 76 on the body. Lol
Thats awesome! My father in law owns one as well. Great too see several age groups really enjoying these cars!
Just picked mine up yesterday with 12 on the OD 3.0 premium renaissance red every option ticked 6mt. Love it. Don’t even have to push the car to have fun
That's awesome! Yeah I love the manual in these. Such a blast of a car!
Congrats! I'm just waiting for my dealer to get one in.. seems like they still can't be ordered, for some reason. Were you able to order yours? Last thing I want, is to wait around for months only to have a model come in that isn't exactly how I want it..
@@hhaste Toyotas allocation process doesn’t let you order one It’s strictly what they build and send to dealers so it’s kind of luck if the draw. That’s in Texas at least as of September 2023. I found out 30 minutes before 7 other people by accident and bought the car within that same phone call. But that being said. I wouldn’t have apexes carbon fiber for yellowing issues but it has it and it can be covered up. I got 95% what I want. Only missing tan interior for me
Congrats! How much did that go for bro? I’ve been looking for a Z at as close as possible to MSRP but nah, it’s impossible
@@93ksj about 3k over msrp but it’s only the second manual to be sold in either DFW or Houston. They’ve only had a few cars this year. Production has been cut way back
The color black top is beautiful on your car … bravo bro 🇺🇸👍🏽
Thanks! Thats the OEM paint. Love the wrap design I did!
very good review considering I live in NJ where the colder weather months can be gruesome, I really wouldnt mind getting one. Reliable, good looking, capable of aftermarket, and not to bad for pricing considering the market for sports cars.
For sure! Get a set of winter tires for the cold months and you should do pretty good!
Helpful!!! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I love these. I would have to have 3.0 with stick. But the stick is rare at the moment and I don’t feel like paying outta my nose to get one. Definitely love yours with the blue color. Not a flashy color guy.
Yeah these are harder to find for sure!
The TE37s look lovely on the car…. Nice colour choice😊
Thinking of a 6 spoke wheel for my next setup!
I never understood people who hate this car being a “BMW”.
Because 1) it’s not Toyota’s first time working with other brands, and all other car manufacturers does this: like Audi and Porsche
2)in-line six engine is BMW’s specialty. And BMW overall is a more premium brand than Toyota. Therefore, you are only getting better with the aids of BMW’s involvement. I’m not sure Toyota can develop a better engine themselves than B58. Maybe some so-called “JDM fans” are being ignorance about how good BMW engines are.
3) Most importantly, today’s market is driven by SUV and electric car buyers, it’s a miracle that Toyota even brought back the Supra. You have to survive in the market first to be able to talk about how “pure JDM” you are. Look at EVO, they don’t even exist anymore. Is that what the fans want?
Now I can see Supra in basically every car meet, that shows how well it sells, and what a good car it is.
So true! People just need to find some reason to justify why they didn't buy a Supra lol. It's the only thing they can make fun of since it performs like nothing else for the money! I love that it has the BMW refinements and precision. Perfect blend!
A lot of the BMW hate is from jealousy and most of those haters never owned one. BMW makes great cars. I’ve a 2023 X3 and it’s the best most comfortable car I’ve ever driven. It is exciting to drive and it does everything perfect.
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Very true! They hate what they cant have
Also adding that the b58 is very similar to the beloved 2jz. Watching papidakis dismantle the b58 and 2jz back to back made me think it's a modern adaptation to the 2jz.
Heck if you told me bmw dismantled a 2jz and built the b58 I could believe it.
You mentioned several points about how North Carolina and Michigan are like trees and bushes!
lol
I'm glad you mentioned your Father-in-Law has one too. At 50 I was wondering if I was going to look like "mid-life crisis guy" driving one. I'm in NY and would be doing the same thing... put it away and drive my 4Runner for the winter. It's strictly a toy to row through the gears on some twisty back roads or take a day trip somewhere.
50? That’s nothing, I am about to turn 69! 2021 Renny red.
@@davidhorne2326awesome! dealership says mine is in port now. '23 Black MT
@@twoshady518 It’s an awesome car. Enjoy!
I actually just a filmed a 20k miles review on his car! Will go up in a week or so. Sounds like you'll be just like him! He has a Highlander as the normal car. But he loves the Supra!
Nice! Seem like a broad spectrum of ages own these cars and love them!
Interesting how so few of these are sold. I believe even Corvettes are selling much more every year.
Idk I’m on a year + waiting list for my order.
Toyota doesn't over produce them, but the ones they make are being sold quickly.
I’ve seen way more Corvettes than Supra’s. Here in my town in Oregon I’ve only seen a couple along with mine. They seem to also hold value extremely well so a lot of people that were waiting for them to depreciate insanely quickly are sol.
Yea because they are not made here and every old man drives a corvette I see 3-5 a day , Toyota produces less Supras than corvettes ..
The problem is Toyota is under producing them in purpose to keep the prices where they are.
Great video! A lot of good info! From a Tesla owner … your Supra is beautiful
Glad it was helpful!
In between the Supra 6-speed / or go VW R & go APR stage 2-3. Great informative video.
Supra all day! Much more premium car and feels more performance focused. If you need the space tho, Gold R isnt a bad option. But I'd go RS3 for similar money as a Supra
I've been in line for my Supra for a little while now and my dealership finally got one allocated to them and I'm next! Only thing is that it's my second choice which is white, but my main choice is black. Since you are someone who experienced both colors, would you say black is the better choice even if maintaining it may be a little harder? Awesome video btw and I look forward to ordering some parts from your store!
Really depends on your taste. I wrapped this one very quickly and it's been blue most of my ownership. If you plan to wrap the car go black. If I wasn't going to wrap, I'd go for white. Fun car for sure! We have some goodies for these!
Well done!
Thanks!
I agree, it would be sweet if they slapped the 3.0 in the GR86. They can't put BMWs engine in the Subaru collaboration, though. That would be cool but that would also compete with the supra at that point.
That'd be wild to see the 3.0 B58 in the 86! However I mentioned the 3 cylinder from the GR Corolla would be cool to see in the 86. Probably still wouldn't happen tho
great content
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Order my 45th edition about a month ago and should get it in a month or so.
sweet!! You'll enjoy it!
I used to hate the way these looked until I saw a lowered black on black one up close (even though that’s the worst color combo imo). Now I am obsessed with them & want to buy one soon. I think it may be the best bang for buck (as far as new sports cars go).
Yeah in pics you cant always see the car with all its lines. In person these look great!
Yeah I agree. I was mixed on the pictures. Saw one in person and thought they looked amazing.
Ended up finally getting mine in Dec 22 for a mt.
Nice blue and black livery!
Thanks! Fun time wrapping the car and the color really pops!
Excellent video! May I please have wheel and tire recommendations? I own a 2023 Supra GR 3.0. New tires and wheels would be the best upgrade I think. May recommendations would be great!
I really like Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires. Seem to work great for performance and wet conditions!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Thanks for the response! May I ask, what tire size and wheel size do you have on the Supra shown in this video?
Alright so I have a rather big question for you. Which car did you enjoy more to drive and have fun in? The gtr or the supra? And if the supra manual or auto? Maybe compare manual supra to gtr as well
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Here is the video I made on that!
I was like “WHY DIDNT HE MENTION ABOUT HOW YOU HAVE TO SHIP IT TO RUSSIA TO GET THE ECU UNLOCKED” glad you did I was getting worried lol. I have been looking at supras and my friend was giving me a lecture about how I should get a 2020 solely because of that fact. He has been able to tune his and do a lot of cool stuff and now has a hp of 750. Also this video was helpful thank you :D
If I didn’t get a 2SS black Camaro, I think would’ve gone for a Used C7 or Supra for under 60k budget.
Great cars no hate needed guys!
Yeah good options for sure!
Man...this spec is gorgeous!
Thanks! Love the upgrades I've done with it!
Does this car with a short throw shifter or should you upgrade to a short throw as well as increase the clutch capacity?
Its a nicely weighted shifter would a good throw. I'm not sure if anyone made a short shifter kit of this yet. But I don't think it needs one. There is a clutch out their I think for these
I refused every over sticker markup car. I’ve been trying to purchase the new Supra Manual for over a year. Not willing to pay over MSRP. Any advice/hook ups to help?
Put a deposit down- I am paying msrp no markup
You’ll have to be on a list with a dealer somehow. Talk with dealers and get in line for their allocation
Why do I see Supras with the GR emblem and others that don't have this? Is this a version you missed talking about? Or is this GR emblem something generic that do not make a difference?
They all come with the GR logo. I removed mine when I did the wrap and only put the Supra logo back on. As of now I've unwrapped the car and have both logos back on
thank god saw this review first, was super close to buying a supra mk5 (im 17, and broke asf)
Just keep saving up! You have many years to go! Budget your money and do things yourself and work hard at your future career
You are correct. You summed it pretty well with the mk5 info. Is yours tune?
Yeah I've been around these a bit! My manual Supra is stock tuned still. Thinking about trying the Dahler module before any ECU tuning
@@BrosFOURRSpeed What do you mean by stock tune? I must of missed your video when you talked about it.
Stock tune is the tune that comes on the car when you buy it. The factory tuning of the car has not been changed from how it comes stock
Do you think the MK 5 is under Tune from the factory that is why it makes a funny noise when it switch gears at high speed? Kinda like a farting a noise?
Do u need e85 for jb4 and down pipe or u can just put pump premium gas in the SUPRA mk5?
I run premium. You would need an E85 tune to run ethanol. Catted downpipe like what I have can be run with no extras. We have them on our website!
I was on Toyota and they had a carbon fibre rim option that was like $10k I believe
Yeah thats available. Can't remember if I mentioned that. But I doubt anyone will order that option. Absolute waste of money lol
Excellent video dude.
Thanks!
What rear spoiler is that? It looks great!
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Here yah go! Great product!
I know you used to be all in on the 2023 Z, wouldn't you say the Z could achieve similar performance upgrades with mods at a better value than the supra? Also seems like the Z is cheaper to tune. Just curious on your take.
Here’s a good video I made on a lot of my thought. czcams.com/video/afL5UaOx1Qs/video.htmlsi=rarXd3J4RdrKMOwu
Z is easier to tune and can be just as powerful. But just doesn’t have the nimble handling like the Supra. And doesn’t have the same refined interior. So to me it was well worth spending more for the Supra. Z just doesn’t feel on par with this for cornering and refinements. Supra is still faster and smoother when tuned. The Z is basically a budget Supra. Has some good aspects. But just wasn’t worth the price honestly. At $45k I’d buy the Z. But not $55k
You can throw parts at any car but you can’t change that 18 year old chassis. 😂
@@touayaaj84 Yeah that’s a good point. It’ll be fast. But just making in all the other aspects compared to the Supra
I'm just concerned with it being an open deck block at 400hp. Pushing it much past that seems like a good way to damage some cylinders or blow a head gasket.
@@Mrpancake72 There's more to an engine being open deck and failure prone. N54s can hit well into the 500HP range with an aluminum open deck block with a downpipe and a tune, and they came stock 300-330ish hp in '06.
if the 3.0 Supra is above your budget, look into the GR86 instead. Fun car to drive
Yeah! My brother owns one, we have lots of content on both! czcams.com/video/seKv8eQ9tSA/video.htmlsi=KBAEVQs22YfidRdM
Hi from Puerto Rico, love the wheels. Can you share the brand and specs? Thanks.
Esos son KNP de Kansei
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Here’s my full video on the wheels!
The only thing changed with the 380 hp engine vs 340 hp was the 6 port manifold?
Pretty much. The turbo is slightly different and then the new version has a lower compression ratio. Tuned on stock turbos or bigger turbos, both engines make about the same power. Just a bit smoother power delivery with the 6 port and a bit quicker torque on the 2 port.
Yes sir definitely 3.0 👍
3.0 all day!
Seems like no one ever mentions the carbon alloy wheel package for Supras
I don't know if anyone has actually spec'd one with it. Would be an absolute waste of money. I don't think most Supra owners can justify $12k wheels. That's 21% of the value of the car for wheels.
Catted DP rec? I don’t want a CEL. I tried AA - Active Autowerke and it threw a CEL :/
Rip, maybe a faulty one? I've ran my AA catted DP for more than half a year now with no CEL still.
MST downpipe won't throw a CEL. We have them on our website! Awesome part! Heres my install video czcams.com/video/klJH3HK3lSQ/video.html
Heres the part brosfourrspeed.com/parts-%26-merchandise/ols/products/mst-performance-6in-catted-downpipe-supra
@PinoyColadas agree, I've had AA CDP for 6 months with no code
What insurance company are you going with to get that rate? Otto??
Eirie Insurance. I've never had expensive insurance, even when I was with Gieco. High deductible, pay in full and clean 10+ year record goes a long way! Also NC is pretty cheap. In Michigan I'd be paying more then double.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed My insurance is super crazy here in Orlando. Its 1,146.47 for 6mon with a high Deduct. and full coverage.
What wheels and spec, please
Here’s my full video on them!
czcams.com/video/btMRlJv7pdA/video.htmlsi=Q4lfa9JheTfm6-md
what about engine reliability?it uses bmw engine so my assumption is poor reliability?
Nope! The B58 is a solid and incredibly reliable engine! Toyota also has a stake in bmw and bmw is currently 2nd in reliability!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed thanks
Sometimes,this dude resembles Edward Norton....
Never heard of that guy. But I could see that a tad
How much is full coverage a month ?
About 187 a month
Supra used to be a super car killer. Now it's just an expensive sport car that for $10k more one can get a super car corvette c8.
C8 isnt a supercar tho. Its a great sportscar. But it's no Lamborghini or Ferrari. And the Supra with a basic tune makes more power then the C8. Supra is a great sportscar for under $60k.
Also the Supra was never a supercar killer. They were low 300 HP cars. You can modify them and make 1000 HP but thats after you've spent $30k in modifications.
Did they ever fix the wind buffering issue? Is there a fix?
Nope! You can buy wind deflectors to fix it tho. brosfourrspeed.com/parts-%26-merchandise/ols/products/armaspeed-supra-windblock-side-mirror-kit
Idk why they sell the 2.0s in the states .
Yeah I just don't see the point. Especially new. For about $50k new there are a lot better options
2.0 should not even exist at all in any market
I think if the 2.0 came with a manual more people would consider them. Like the ecoboost mustang
@@casettetape they should of never released 2.0 just keep 3.0 1 Supra
@@casettetape yeah I could see that. But about $40k would be the top I think it should be offered for
Darn gotta wait till early 2025 to get my 2021 supra 😢
Not much longer to wait!
insurance is so cheap!!! my mustang mach 1 in NY is about 220 a month full coverage
Dang! NY is also expensive to live in!
way to expensive @@BrosFOURRSpeed
The car is built in my hometown
Sweet!
Did you ditch your front lip? Too low? :D
Swapped it for the Rexpeed front end. I loved the previous lip but figured I'd try something else for a bit. Other lip wasn't really any lower then stock. I still have it just saving it for later if I put it back on a change up the car again
That 2.0 twin scroll turbo belongs in the GR86. I don’t know what the hell toyota was thinking. And they’re “worried about a forced induction GR eating into Supra sales” lmao
If they did that, it wouldn’t be a $30-36K car anymore. You mine as well buy a 4 cylinder Supra at that point, so it wouldn’t make sense for them to do that to the 86 as cool as it would be.
No it does not.
@@FRWD_FXLRST explain? lol
Toyota loves making cars you can’t even buy.
How so?
Dude; Toyota did absolutely NOT “reengineer” this car to “meet Toyota standards”…. 😅🤣😂 it’s a re-bodied; rebadged Z4…. Plain and simple.
Yes they did. I've talked with Toyota about this car. They took the B58 engine and went through it and had BMW make changes to make it what it is. Toyota owns a 10% stake in BMW these days. And thats why BMW is now in the top 10 in reliability. Toyota did just as much R&D on the Supra as BMW did. They just didn't build dit in their factory.
Just wait you will see oil leaking from the pan and the coolant disappearing..and other issues lol worked for Toyota seen it all ..not reliable at all just wait til we see more with more miles ..just my opinion not that it matters
Well in the 4 years I've been in the Supra groups, I havent heard any owners talk about leaks with these. Maybe you had one or two come in? But overall these things are very reliable.
Dealer told me that the 2024 will be the last model.
Oh yeah? I havent heard anything from Toyota yet about that. But I wouldn't believe every dealer. They don't always know much about what's happening.
They'd say that to get people to rush in and buy one.
BMW
Yeah BMW and Toyota built this car together. Thanks for letting me know...
Why am i watching this.... its an 60k € car.... ill never be able to afford it
Keep working hard towards it and setting goals and one day it’ll happen! Stay positive about it!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed highly unlikely... loan would cost up to 725 eur, insurance another 500-600 and then all the other stuff aswell
my hourly salary is already better then most others on my field and on average i do about 200hrs a month... maybe in the future, when i have done a ton on investing etc. i could afford it, but by that time there might even be a mk6 or something.... and that will cost so much more, that i wont be able to afford...
@@prospect2664 not sure where you get those numbers from. I don’t pay anywhere near that! Look into it because it cost way way less than what you think.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed hmmm... wierd.... youtube deleted the comment.... anyways, the cheapest supra, that isnt white or even further away is 57k €, with transport and registration fees it would be about 65k €, and that car would have like 13k km on it and 1800km away from home. Or there is one that is about same distance, but has under 200km, but then total cost would be like 68k... cant afford it anyways, as both insurance and loan would be 1.2-1.4k a month + everything else then....
And im already earning more then average on my field, would need to earn like 35% more then the max amount people get for what i do.... and thats when i continue doing my average 200hrs per month insanity
@@prospect2664 are you just guessing on the insurance and monthly payment?? Even my brother Audi r8 costs $80 a month to insure with full coverage!!
$1200 a month for insurance doesn’t seem right at all man!
But buy what works for you and what you are comfortable with affording.
Ngl, that's a cool bmw! Who knew bmws could look so much like a Toyota! 😮
Pretty cool that Toyota decided to partner with bmw to make an amazing car!
Daddy ❤
Not a dad yet lol. Supra is a fun car!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed i still have my 2021 Supra and want to unlock the ecu and buy crazy amount of parts. However when I call all these companies it’s like they don’t want to sell lol
@@leonut81 That’s interesting, we sell tons of parts for it on our website! We can help you order parts! Check out our site!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed like pure 800, tune?
@@leonut81 We don’t carry turbos yet! But we have some bolt ons available!
You I’ve gotta admit because the Toyota Supra MK5 has a BMW engine you might has well get a BMW
What bmw would you get in it’s place??
I already have a BMW which is a BMW 325i year 2003
@@javiercanessa2342 cool, not exactly a competitor to the Supra, just depends on what you want and will enjoy, have fun with it!
Toyota got lazy with GR86 and now this. Come on Toyota
How did they get lazy? We own both, amazing cars for the money..
BMW Reliability! 😂
Toyota and bmw reliability! But bmw is in the top 3 so it’s a win win!
Can this outrun a cop charger while stock? If so, ill buy one next month, lmk guy or whoever.
I’m not sure, I’ve never wanted to try and outrun the cops..
yes