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  • čas přidán 22. 04. 2024
  • Archive Trap and Surgical Extraction is finally on Arena....MILL IS NOW
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Komentáře • 154

  • @smegmalasagna
    @smegmalasagna Před měsícem +309

    I cracked up so hard when that 200+ card deck also had a Gaea's Blessing xD

    • @briankenney9528
      @briankenney9528 Před měsícem +19

      I played against a 200 card deck on arena that scooped after I unmoored ego'd their gaea's

    • @clintcook8691
      @clintcook8691 Před měsícem +13

      Every deck that is over 200 cards has Gaea’s just so they hope they run into mill

    • @smegmalasagna
      @smegmalasagna Před měsícem +7

      @@clintcook8691 My own 240 card lists do not have Gea's Blessing. I doubt that I need them against mill when my list is already four times the standard size :p
      I do think that you are right though. Players that play Gaea's *on top* of such a deck size are likely big mill dislikers.

    • @QuietlyHere666
      @QuietlyHere666 Před měsícem +5

      ​@@smegmalasagna okay genuinely, why the 200+ card singleton decks everywhere? It's all I get paired against in best of ones, it kinda doesn't feel like I'm playing the same format

    • @smegmalasagna
      @smegmalasagna Před měsícem +3

      @@QuietlyHere666 I think that it is because there is no giant repercussion for it in BO1. In BO3 it makes your sideboard meaningless but in BO1 there are a lot of cards that can act as additional copies of certain effects (Like the 2 mana kill spells) and so having a giant deck size doesn't make your deck as bad as you'dd think.
      Besides that I think that it's either because players hate mill or they find it funky. (I'm the latter)

  • @jimmybobobbingo
    @jimmybobobbingo Před měsícem +107

    230 cards + Gaea's Blessing. Opponent; "Never again." hahaha

    • @spicymato
      @spicymato Před měsícem +2

      For the no-bans all access, I ran Stone Brain specifically for Gaia and Nexus.

  • @TheWorldsStage
    @TheWorldsStage Před měsícem +239

    Milling out the 116 card deck was hilarious
    Edit: the game after that was the final boss

    • @MrMartinSchou
      @MrMartinSchou Před měsícem +12

      I was watching that and thinking "I wonder if they have ..." when it turned out they did. Laughed out loud at that.

    • @Xorthis
      @Xorthis Před měsícem +2

      Amusingly, if he had surgical extraction in hand when that happened, it wouldn't happen again :D

  • @TsahayluFa
    @TsahayluFa Před měsícem +221

    What the heck was up with these match-ups?! Really wild. It's like the match maker paired you against every deck that would have an advantage against mill. Please play this again!

    • @-Karnage
      @-Karnage Před měsícem +33

      Matchmaker is rigged to an extent. Don't let the Reddit nerds tell you otherwise.

    • @luizcbn173
      @luizcbn173 Před měsícem

      Probally bots doing quests

    • @xinvl
      @xinvl Před měsícem +16

      Or crim edited the video to show you the more interesting games...

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 Před měsícem +14

      ​@@xinvl shh, can't be reasonable. It's gotta be a weird conspiracy theory for some reason. Lol

    • @Xorthis
      @Xorthis Před měsícem +16

      @@-Karnage I had about 5 people on reddit tell me the matchmaker isn't rigged in ranked because "woTc sAiD iT wAsN't". Long time viewers know this is not the opponents you see when playing non-mill decks in timeless.

  • @ther3aper561
    @ther3aper561 Před měsícem +55

    Crim didnt make this deck to mill, he made it to test the match making conspiracy theories

  •  Před měsícem +19

    - "who hurt you to play a 200+ cards deck?"
    - Someone like you, not anymore!
    *adds Gaea's Blessing to the pile 🤣🤣🤣

  • @VoodooGremlin
    @VoodooGremlin Před měsícem +36

    18:40 - I didn't know battle of wits was on arena

  • @Smutter86
    @Smutter86 Před měsícem +10

    Gotta have that surgical extraction in hand for when you mill the Gaea's Blessing, haha. These thicc decks today XD

  • @jholopez1993
    @jholopez1993 Před měsícem +5

    That guy with the 200+ card deck was just waiting for you fervently with his anti-mill deck. That man was praying for you Crim 😂😂😂

  • @petersteiman2443
    @petersteiman2443 Před měsícem +2

    That was the strangest matchups I have ever seen on this channel. That almost felt like watching Mono Black Magic, but none of those triple digit decks were also life gain decks.

  • @user-iz7nu4wk3h
    @user-iz7nu4wk3h Před měsícem +4

    This has to be the most realistic MTGGodfish video in ages.

  • @blobzombie
    @blobzombie Před měsícem +2

    _"You know, opponent, if you had 230 cards, this never would've happened to you."_ 🤣

  • @BlazingSerenade
    @BlazingSerenade Před měsícem +11

    bro it's been 40 minutes since the upload and I've already run into this three times lmao

  • @schrottinator
    @schrottinator Před měsícem +5

    I didn't know there's a "double your opponents deck size" queue.

  • @spencerbell8386
    @spencerbell8386 Před měsícem +8

    Bruh THREE Coco's in hand?? lmaoooo

  • @Just_J_bh
    @Just_J_bh Před měsícem +14

    Maybe standard mill deck next time??

  • @matt5g
    @matt5g Před měsícem +21

    I swear everytime I play my mill deck I always go against 100+ card decks, but the moment I seitch to a different deck I only get 60 card decks again

    • @Red_Mag3
      @Red_Mag3 Před měsícem +1

      The clicking is horrible, but infinite Soul Cauldron into Outrageous Robbery is super sweet when you mill their 200 card pile.

    • @matt5g
      @matt5g Před měsícem +1

      @@Red_Mag3 my favorite is Bruvac + Terisian Mindbreaker, but I do really enjoy that as well

  • @coopergw3463
    @coopergw3463 Před měsícem +4

    You cant convince me they dont skew matchmaking so certain decks play each other. Brawl is a casual format but omg my mill deck plays so many graveyard decks and then when i switch i get zero

  • @crapparc
    @crapparc Před měsícem +3

    The professor can make Crim play a green deck, but he can't take the urge to mill and control out of Crim.

  • @user-vw4bx9qy9s
    @user-vw4bx9qy9s Před měsícem +1

    I think this was the most entertaining MTG content I have ever seen. THe rage quit to the Gaes's Binding made me fall to the floor.

  • @thenerdwithoutfear8378
    @thenerdwithoutfear8378 Před měsícem +2

    I recently made an Oathbreaker Mill Deck with the Phyrexian Jace and Tashas Hideous Laughter - love it❤

    • @Red-Tower
      @Red-Tower Před měsícem +1

      Oathbreaker is a format I kinda wish had gotten more popularity, although I remember when it started out the ban list needed a lot of work. Hope it's doing better now!

  • @ninjastealth101
    @ninjastealth101 Před měsícem +1

    I’ve been grinding mill on the ladder too and it’s crazy how many decks play like 100-250 cards. I’d say like 50% of my games op is playing well over 60 cards

  • @dracomasters9039
    @dracomasters9039 Před měsícem +1

    I like how the 100+ decks weren’t playing Yorion or Lutri, crazy.

  • @SaintSoba
    @SaintSoba Před měsícem +2

    1:13 c'mon, "push the pilgrim" was right there and you missed it

  • @suNn.K.O
    @suNn.K.O Před měsícem +5

    That 200+ card Andy has definitely lost too many games to mill lmao.

  • @tyiscool12321
    @tyiscool12321 Před měsícem +1

    I've been waiting for this video ever since you talked about archive trap on the podcasr

  • @doublee343
    @doublee343 Před měsícem +1

    I’ve been looking forward to this!

  • @Xorthis
    @Xorthis Před měsícem +3

    Guys, remember. WotC don't fix the matchmaker in ranked, it's totally random! *coughing fit*

  • @clintcook8691
    @clintcook8691 Před měsícem +3

    This is why I don’t play mill on arena is because I’m only ever matched against people that have massive deck sizes.

  • @midn8588
    @midn8588 Před měsícem

    I love how Crim plays the mill deck and just runs into everyone bringing their battle of wits decks

  • @ODIRGO
    @ODIRGO Před měsícem +1

    Crim, did you forget Arena chooses your opponents depending on your own card pool? If you play a mill strategy, of course most of your opponents will have anti mill strategies in their main deck. I play a thief deck in Brawl, and I most of my opponents have a hexproof/ward strategies in their main deck too.

  • @furbyfubar
    @furbyfubar Před měsícem +6

    1:09 You went from "Bolt the bird" to "Ice the Pilgrim" when playing Fatal Push?? "Push the Pilgrim" was *right* there!

  • @coreysierchio4650
    @coreysierchio4650 Před měsícem +1

    Watching Mill go up against these hundred plus cards decks makes me believe in the Arena matchups being rigged, lol.
    *Thanks for the Content!*

  • @kobevandenbosch1318
    @kobevandenbosch1318 Před měsícem +1

    A missed opportunity to 'push the pilgrim' tho loll

  • @GameSpeer16
    @GameSpeer16 Před měsícem

    1:12 Bolt the bird, push the pilgrim

  • @christopher8091
    @christopher8091 Před měsícem

    Mil is my fav deck to play. Mill is back on the table :)

  • @laytonjr6601
    @laytonjr6601 Před 27 dny

    What I think happened in that person's head:
    "Why are you playing 125 cards singleton in timeless?"
    "Brawl wants me to have only 100 cards and I didn't manage to cut anything "

  • @ComradeVenus
    @ComradeVenus Před měsícem +1

    YESSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

  • @dawsonnunn2445
    @dawsonnunn2445 Před měsícem

    Been waiting for this one

  • @Tinnituss
    @Tinnituss Před měsícem +8

    Mfw I travel back in time to get first comment but some weirdo with a 187 letter long name beat me to it. Regards from the year 2787.

  • @alexandercochrum716
    @alexandercochrum716 Před měsícem

    Crim against affinity why didn’t you use field of ruin to force the search, archive trap and then tashas? Or field, tasha, archive trap?

  • @robh9075
    @robh9075 Před měsícem

    Fantastic, love me some Mill and I actually have some Alcohol to enjoy this even more with randomly so "win" "win" for me tonight then.

  • @komlogic
    @komlogic Před měsícem +1

    the opponent activated their trap card :)

  • @cedricberube
    @cedricberube Před měsícem +14

    I swear the match-maker and shuffler is at least a bit rigged. Every single time i play my other decks, i get 60 cards decks match up, but EVERY TIME i bust out my mill deck, suddenly everyone got those 250 piles of junk that somehow top deck the best responses against my deck

    • @DimT670
      @DimT670 Před měsícem +1

      But see when you play mill you look at the opponents decks
      When you aren't playing mill you rarely do that. For all you know you encounter 200 card decks regularly

    • @cedricberube
      @cedricberube Před měsícem +1

      @@DimT670 i always check decks each game because most player with decks more than 60 cards are not really good. I can change my playstyle with that in mind

    • @OddMidnight
      @OddMidnight Před měsícem +2

      ​@@DimT670 Normally 200+ decks are pretty distinct from the 60 cards ones. There's a lack of synergy and you don't see as many multiples on the field. Moreover, a good portion of 60 card decks fit a certain archetype to the point that you can predict their plays based on how much mana they have. It might be that people don't look at card count, but usually it's pretty noticeable when someone is playing an oversized deck.

    • @cedricberube
      @cedricberube Před měsícem

      @@OddMidnight Also, visually in arena, 250 cards are pretty noticeable on the top right corner. Like it almost goes "out of the screen"

  • @Wanderie
    @Wanderie Před měsícem

    @9:36 could you have field of ruin opennent? And if he searches for the land you can archive trap him?

    • @awesomeguy5451
      @awesomeguy5451 Před měsícem +1

      no, it only hits nonbasics

    • @jack229111
      @jack229111 Před měsícem +2

      They had hexproof and archive targets

    • @Wanderie
      @Wanderie Před měsícem +1

      Oof :(

    • @Steamer-fp1nl
      @Steamer-fp1nl Před měsícem

      Dang I thought the same thing. They DOUBLE blocked that. Wow.

  • @sutech
    @sutech Před měsícem

    I would consider adding Stone brain just to remove Gaea's Blessing. Or a leyline of the void.

  • @parkerstern1800
    @parkerstern1800 Před měsícem +2

    why does the mill deck always run into so much anti-mill tech?

  • @davidcrawford5324
    @davidcrawford5324 Před měsícem

    In response to the Gaea's Blessing he needs to have a Tormod's Crypt or some other similar GY exiling effect handy so they don't get those cards back. Tasha's is good but doesn't exile the existing cards that are already in the GY so no help there unfortunately

  • @Pidgeonsofwar
    @Pidgeonsofwar Před měsícem

    230+ card deck + Gaea's Blessing. What a chad.

  • @kerolokerokerolo
    @kerolokerokerolo Před měsícem

    You beat white leyline with the crab and thassas's laughter, cards that mill but don't target :)
    Edit: oh yeah, the orb mills without targeting the opponent. nice

  • @laurenbutler419
    @laurenbutler419 Před měsícem

    i think this has to be crims greatest mill video yet

  • @VincenzoC749
    @VincenzoC749 Před měsícem

    I’m entirely certain Arena puts you against overloaded decks when you play mill. I always get 100+ card decks on opponents when I play mill, and only then.

  • @EionBlue
    @EionBlue Před měsícem

    Thanks Crim, now I can point to this video when some idiot tells me the matchmaker isn't rigged.

  • @jacksonmixon5090
    @jacksonmixon5090 Před měsícem

    Against affinity why didnt you just field + archive trap and then cast hideous laughter? Seems a lot more likely to get there than milling 4 with the enchantment

  • @rogergalvao8706
    @rogergalvao8706 Před měsícem

    Finally Timeless is back on menu!

  • @acdcguy18
    @acdcguy18 Před měsícem

    Did I count that right? 4/6 had over 60 cards? Rough day to be mill.

  • @togglebott7748
    @togglebott7748 Před měsícem

    Getting matched up with a 100 card and then 200 card deck was so fucking funny holy shit

  • @RPGFanboy14
    @RPGFanboy14 Před měsícem

    Only Crim could manage to find the two people on the timeless ladder trying to play EDH when playing mill. What the heck were those games? 😂
    Everyone is too scared of the mill decks.

  • @saladmcjones7798
    @saladmcjones7798 Před měsícem

    Probably an unpopular opinion, but I really do think mill should be strong. Deck size would be a relevant parameter to consider instead of the past 30 year meta of "all decks over 60 cards are strictly worse than their 60-card counterpart." More relevant choices (ie do you go for the efficient 60 loadout and leave yourself susceptible to mill, or play it safe and go 80?) leads to more play diversity.

  • @boobox2000
    @boobox2000 Před měsícem

    19:34 Why scoop to Gaea's Blessing?! You have Surgical Extraction in your deck.

    • @ryanc3201
      @ryanc3201 Před měsícem

      Your vote is to just hope they hard cast it?

  • @Tyabann
    @Tyabann Před měsícem

    to be fair, you probably don't want a world where Mill is actually good

  • @scruz07
    @scruz07 Před měsícem

    Cooking with Crim

  • @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle
    @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle Před měsícem

    Love me a good surgical extraction

  • @wvanhuss4190
    @wvanhuss4190 Před měsícem

    If we got crypt incursion that'd be awesome

  • @locksmithvic3118
    @locksmithvic3118 Před měsícem

    Playing this deck minus the surgicals so far 8 out of 10 wins. Mills good again!!

  • @funkydiscogod
    @funkydiscogod Před měsícem +1

    a whole episode and not one crowd surf the karn wtf

  • @williambowen8054
    @williambowen8054 Před měsícem

    Dude has 200 card deck and Gaea's blessing just in case.

  • @Ace_CooCoo5
    @Ace_CooCoo5 Před 22 dny

    Nooooo we didn’t need anymore GODDAMN MILL

  • @CDShap
    @CDShap Před měsícem

    Bolt the Birds, Push the Pilgrim, Eliminate the Elves, Destroy the Druids.

  • @kiDchemical
    @kiDchemical Před měsícem

    Portable Hole
    Black as your soul
    I'd rather die than give you control
    I'm passing this ear worm on to all of you

  • @Tiax776
    @Tiax776 Před měsícem

    Ah yes, Jace + Breach isn't broken at all.

  • @MrDabrain75
    @MrDabrain75 Před 14 dny

    This is what happens to me everytime i play mill. The system has to be doing it.

  • @CerbearusBane
    @CerbearusBane Před měsícem

    As a fellow mill player, I feel your pain. Bo3 is even worse because of people that run a single Gaea's Blessing in their sideboard regardless of color...

  • @Red_Mag3
    @Red_Mag3 Před měsícem

    Wishclaw + Archive Trap

  • @weebikarp1806
    @weebikarp1806 Před měsícem

    Bolt the Bird
    Push the Pilgrim

  • @matthewhalsan6459
    @matthewhalsan6459 Před měsícem

    Only the saltiest of timmies would play a 200 card deck with gaes blessing, but I respect the dedication to playing a horrible deck with exactly 1 good match up.

  • @Zarren_Redacted
    @Zarren_Redacted Před měsícem

    But MTG Arena, why does my opponent get TWO EDH decks?

  • @guilhermeribeiromichelino3852
    @guilhermeribeiromichelino3852 Před měsícem +1

    Say to me that arena is not rigged.
    What are the odds of playing twice against more than 100 cards while playing mill.

  • @fScS2H
    @fScS2H Před měsícem

    Play more mill :)

  • @Squee311
    @Squee311 Před měsícem

    (fatal) Push the Pilgrim

  • @Malik1378
    @Malik1378 Před měsícem +1

    If you ever wonder that arena's matchmaker is rigged, refer to this video

  • @CouchtrollPodcastDS
    @CouchtrollPodcastDS Před měsícem

    116 deck made for great content lol

  • @GenericProphets
    @GenericProphets Před měsícem

    WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE LADDER RIGHT NOW?
    WHO HURT THESE PEOPLE

  • @daedalusdreamjournal5925
    @daedalusdreamjournal5925 Před měsícem

    the matches against the 116 cards and 200+ cards deck were not random. MTGA is using analysis machine learning tools to match you up against deck that are strong against yours.
    So after a few matches, it saw that your deck "shoulddo worse" against big fat deck with many cards.
    You're not the first to experience that.

  • @gaivscaesar
    @gaivscaesar Před měsícem

    It makes me happy that mill still sucks even with the new cards

  • @captainawsme
    @captainawsme Před měsícem

    Only crim would come up against the anti mill 200 card deck 😂😂 f in the chat

  • @suddenlyboop1815
    @suddenlyboop1815 Před měsícem +1

    It feels like every other person I play against on arena is playing every card they own in one deck.
    Why use brain cells to learn how to build a deck when you can just spend 1500$ on mythical and play all of them in one deck?

  • @matushorvath
    @matushorvath Před měsícem

    LOL, 200+ cards

  • @EmmanuelPR427
    @EmmanuelPR427 Před měsícem +3

    Lol that over 200 card deck match proves that matchmaker is rigged

  • @chris7372
    @chris7372 Před měsícem

    People playing decks like Battle of wits is on arena

  • @crayyonnyadrav4055
    @crayyonnyadrav4055 Před měsícem

    I feel like someone lost 5+ Matches in a row to mill and was really petty and salty about it.

  • @MEGAMIGA
    @MEGAMIGA Před měsícem

    I bloody hate mill decks! The epitome of blue control

  • @azuraflame1
    @azuraflame1 Před měsícem

    I literally never see players with decks above 60 unless safron Olive or Crim is playing mill. It always annoys me because I know those aren't most games but it's so annoying when you want to see how a deck preforms and you literally get paired up with the handful of decks that make that not possible. oh well what can ya do.

  • @Tinil0
    @Tinil0 Před měsícem

    I cannot possibly understand why you would just not play archive trap right away in the second to last game. You just played mesmeric orb, they aren't going to see that and start playing into mill...

  • @Tyranzor64
    @Tyranzor64 Před měsícem

    Timeless mill didnt need a boost

  • @adrianshaw9782
    @adrianshaw9782 Před 11 dny

    I knew matchmaking was rigged… 😅

  • @nathanialshicks
    @nathanialshicks Před měsícem

    I hate the monopoly man, why does the principal from Archie AND Recess still hold sway even here, universes beyond has gone too far

  • @REON-pw5ze
    @REON-pw5ze Před měsícem +1

    This video proves that MTG Arena pairing is rigged AF. No way in hell this is real.

  • @tavitalvensaari6355
    @tavitalvensaari6355 Před měsícem +2

    Holy heavens. Am I first?

  • @Ciph3rzer0
    @Ciph3rzer0 Před měsícem

    I swear matchmaking (even ranked) is rigged. They are planning if you will win or lose before the match, probably to satisfy some kind of retention algorithm and exploit human psychology.
    When I take an anti red deck or target something specific in the meta, I go from seeing it every 7 out of 10 games to 1 out of 10.