My wife had radioactive Iodine treatment for thyroid cancer. We pulled out her grandfather's old Geiger counter and sure enough she was registering. We all had to stay away for 3 days. Full recovery, praise God.
@@duxwiththefux It does, but when it comes to cancer it depends on the type of cancer what's the best treatment. If you got a treatment that has a place-in radioactive object, it could effect healthy cells as well, but still better if kills the cancer.
It's so strange that we use radioactive iodine to treat thyroid cancer and yet we take non-radioactive iodine to protect our thyroid from absorbing the radioactive iodine from fallout.
RIP to those poor women. I had to take a radioactive iodine pill last December (2021) to shrink some nodules growing on my thyroid. I was told to flush the toilet twice for a week, and not to get around my grandchildren for 2 weeks. I never felt anything different than normal. The pill came encased in a lead container that screwed shut and the doctor and his assistant wore gowns, masks and gloves. The pill was white, and rather large, about the size of a Vicodin. I swallowed it with a cup of water, and was sent home. My thyroid is now functioning normally. I t was very "hyper" before. I will have a follow-up ultrasound of the nodules next month (May) to see if they shrank. I wish I'd had a Geiger counter back in December, just to see how radioactive I was!
Our daughter-in-law had Thyroid cancer. The treatment for that type of cancer is radio-active iodine. She was diagnosed just 3 months after having our grandson. It's really tough. She was in a special isolation unit. They came in space like looking suits. Covered head to toe and open a thermos. It smokes and with thongs handed her a large size capsule to swallow. No visitors, etc. The baby couldn't be around her. Very blessed to have been able to bring him home with us. It's a treatment that does work but it's very rough to go through. Thanks for all you do and share with us. Stay safe. 💀❣
The story about the Radium girls is horrific. There is a book about these poor women written by Kate Moore. It’s interesting but extremely sad. Thank you so much Ron.
Super horrible. The companies were well aware of the dangers and still tried to fight the ladies in court saying their health issues were the girls fault from being “loose and contracting syphillis”
You might pick something up with a Scintillation counter as they're far more sensitive, however as you said the levels on the ground are perfectly safe but a more sensitive detector might still notice something underground.
Possibly, but a Radon Gas detector, a detector for dangerous Radioactive gas Radon, will definitely be positive at that location due to the amount of Radium she has in her. Radium and Uranium are known Radon gas sources.
@@robertsteinbach7325 radon gas would be detected anywhere. Possibly more would be coming out of the ground around their caskets but it’s unlikely to be an increase that’s harmful since the cemetery is well ventilated and any decay products can spread out
i dont know about brave. they were mislead by lies and taken advantage of and then dismissed as whores with STDs when they started showing symptoms. i wouldn't call that that brave. just tragic.
Such a sad story. It's hard to imagine just how much those poor women and their families suffered because of a company's greed. Thank you for sharing this.
OMG I had no idea about the radiation treatment. I know they stay isolated for a while but figured it was because I always heard that cancer treatments ruins their immune system and they are very fragile and susceptible to germs, bacteria, viruses. I didn't know people had to keep their distance. How do you take care of your loved one in that situation. Ugh. I'm so glad there was no signs of trouble at those graves. That is frightening about the half life of it being 1,600 years. Seriously, industries should not be making anything they cannot easily get rid of and it go back to a natural and harmless state. Too late to avoid that on the Earth unfortunately.
I had radiation in 2007. My godmother and I did treatment at the same time. Neither of us were made to keep away from our family. The only time during chemo I had to isolate was during my stem cell transplant. I was hospitalized for 3 weeks so I could have chemo to drop my immune system to zero. Then after given my cells back I had to stay until my count went back to normal. I had to take antivirals for a year so my immune system could catch up.
The treatment this guy is talking about is a different kind of treatment. Those who have normal radiation treatments are safe to be around, but you are right about keeping some distance because of low immune systems. I was told that if I got sick I would have to stop treatment (they do not want to risk making the others getting treatment sick too) and then they may have to restart the treatment, and there was no way I wanted to do that, so I personally was very careful around normal people when getting radiation treatment.
I got really sick cause of sort of treatment, actually an accident, about 35 years ago. Been on penicillin since then, 30+ years. Sick and evil world we live in, nobody cared.
@@spiritmatter1553 You are correct, if Nuclear Power Plants are built with modern technology geared for safety, in a location that is isolated from population centers, in locations that are meteorologically and geologically stable, and run responsibly. The US, Canada, and Western Europe has over half a century of a great safety record of running commercial Nuclear Power generating plants, with each plant creating hundreds of millions of kilowatt/hours of electricity every day, without spewing pollutants into the air like coal fire electric plants do. Let's compare the safety of getting and manufacturing fuel for nuclear and coal plants for the past 50 years in America. If you count Karen Silkwood, one died in Nuclear Fuel production for these plants; during this time HUNDREDS DIED in coal mine collapses and explosions. In environment damage, the three mile accident was temporary and, in the end, harmed nobody. Coal power generation pollutes the air shortening the lives of people with lung problems (this is proven by medical science) and coal mining creates "tailings" (the waste carbon rich waste rock) that are dumped into the rivers as dams that often collapse and poison the creeks and rivers near the mines, poisoning the local people.
When they test you for heart blockages. One of the procedures has them injecting you with radioactive isotopes. They should tell you that you have to stay away babies and younger people. Also back in the day we used the rule of thumb that after 10 half lives the area of radioactive contamination is safe.
I had radioactive iodine treatment after my thyroid was removed for cancer. They kept doing Geiger readings and released me when the levels went down. Unfortunately, this is still one of the treatments for cancer. I often wonder how much damage it has done.
My mother is 75 years old and has 9 pullups on her thyroid... they have been asking her to do surgery, but she is scared too death because she doesn't trust doctors now days!
@@netsurfers9357 thyroid removal is a pretty simple surgery, better to have it removed then suffer. if she finds a good hospital there shouldn't be a problem.
I used to live and work there in Ottawa! My daughters received a couple of time pieces from Great Grandpa that were made there in Ottawa. Thank you for honoring those ladies and putting any wives tales to rest about their graves emitting radiation. May they rest in peace. 💕🙏🌸
I knew an old sailor who had been at Bikini Atoll. He said all the science-y guys were in mop suits and protected, but the regular guys were in cut offs and shirtless running around on the sand. He said the VA would pull a tooth every few years to monitor the levels in his body. He wasn't even 70 when he died.
this story has always fascinated me those woman worked endless hours and when they got sick little was done to help may they be at peace another great video
If you want to read the Curies' original lab notes and other reports about Radium that they discovered, you have to get dressed up and go somewhere that keeps radiation inside the room as the levels of contamination in these notes is still so great.
My father passed away April 12th, 1959. I was 7 years old he had a wrist watch that he wore. The numbers had been painted with radium. It glowed green in the dark. My great niece has it now and it still glows green. Those poor women went through hideous pain. A fun thing you might try is use your thoughts to raise the number on the Geiger counter. We tried the experiment in our meditation group. It worked. Welcome home Ron!
I hope your great niece does not wear that watch on her wrist! There was a 2018 study showing the old Radium dials produce high amounts of radon and are more dangerous than we thought. Store it in a case and only open it outdoors where the gas can safely escape
You are never disappointing Ron, like you say you learn something new everyday. I've had several loved ones with cancer and after treatments never told to isolate ourselves from them. Just another example of how things change in cancer treatments . Loved the guessing game for the si-fi video , can't wait to see the extra touches you come up with, have enjoyed your previous episodes with birds flying Wheels moving in photographs . Thanks for keeping us so entertained and caring about those who might have been forgotten otherwise. Many blessings to you and your family
I too had the thyroid radioactive iodine, I had twins about 18 months, a 4 yr old and a 7 yr old. Was difficult too but they didn’t give us a counter or anything to use at home for those 3 days. I think of that today, and I’m sure it was a semi low dose compared to them. It’s very sad. I wonder if anything ever happened to their family members in the long run. Interesting…but very sad. For all of them. Thanks Ron great video !
When my stepfather had radiation in the hospital he could have a visitor but there was a short “lead” wall you had to sit behind and you could not fully enter his room. The part I cannot confirm is he told us he glowed in the dark... he told some good ones, and I think he really believed that. I tend to think he may have been somewhat delirious.
@@lindasprout9526 I think there are different types of radiation. From what I remember his was a type of injection to treat thyroid cancer. He survived colon, prostate and skin cancer, but ultimately ended up with metastasis in his bones and there were no more chemo options left.
@@lindasprout9526 Precautions are taken after internally implanted radiation treatments. These are usually small implants, such as pellets or beads, and are implanted near the tumor site and left in place either temporarily, or permanently. The permanent implants stop emitting radiation after a few days. The patient will be radioactive during the first days after treatment, contact with others is limited.
One of the girls realized just how bad it was when she got up at night for the bathroom. She saw a glow, realized it was her mirror, and that her bones were glowing through her skin.
Glad you made it home safe from your trip Ron. It's very comforting to know that the radium in those women's bones hasn't came out of those graves. It's scary to think that something like that could happen. (if it wasn't for them being in those lead caskets)... It does make ya wonder if their bones are still glowing down in the ground.🤔😬 Glad you did this video Ron, it had been on my mind also if the radium would be detected after all these years. Glad its not. Stay safe out there Ron.🙂💟
I remember the video you did about those women. They suffered such horrible deaths. Thank you for this video. May they RIP in Heaven. ❤️❤️🙏🙏 I had radiation when I had cancer. Nobody was in the room with me during the scan!
Good to know those caskets are doing there job. I’ve often thought of those poor women since I saw your first video about them. Such a terrible, sad story. They way they were treated and used is just appalling. May the rest in peace.
I learned something today, thank you very much. I just wanted to tell you how much I admire your determination! Your interests have no end! And for us who can't travel your our legs. Thanks for what you do, and I pray you can keep the information coming in. God bless you and family. You talk highly of folks who have gone before us. We, your subscribers, see you in the category you see in others! Keep on teaching us. And I never realized how pleasant cemeteries could be! It is a pleasure to visit them and allow ones imagination wander. I still prefer the sound of water, but that's 8 miles away and our local cemetery is 3.5... Guess you know where I go for a little me time when life doesn't allow a trip to listen to the water.
Hi Ron, I have been watching you from 'the beginning'.. every episode I have watched leaves me thinking that you're a lovely man. Thank you for the sensitivity you bring to your videos. Be well, be safe
Thank you for yet another very interesting video! Have you ever covered the Sylvia Likens case from Lebanon, Indiana? It's pretty brutal and mind-boggling, but this young girl truly deserves to be remembered, as well as her sister.
My aunt's eyebrows fell out when she was caring for my cousin, who had radioactive seeds in her breast. Family members were skeptical of whether that could happen, but it's not the same as caring for someone who came home after standard radiation treatment with a beam. It seems to me that patients with these seeds should have to remain in the hospital until they are removed, so they can be cared for by people with proper PPE & training.
My Dad died last year from Osteosarcoma - too many xrays in his head as a child most likely, he had Fiber's Displasia making extra bone growth in his face. Thank God we use lead vests these days.
Pretty sure those flags are more for staff or people who dig graves to warn them about proceeding with extreme caution if one were to have to dig near them. It is a bit of a relief to know that the lead lined caskets are working.
Hi Ron, I went through radiotherapy for 4 weeks in 2019 for Breast Cancer but was never told to stay away from people etc, maybe its different in the UK! R.I.P to all those women.
My husband had radiation treatments for cancer. 6 weeks at a time and numerous times during his 13 year battle. We were never told to isolate and I drove him home and was his caregiver the entire time. Maybe an implanted type or something else.
By the way Ron I’m very glad to have found your site. I enjoy seeing the parts of the country I’ll never be able to visit. And the respect and information you provide for so many forgotten loved ones.
I believe this only applies to radioactive iodine given in pill form to those with thyroid cancer or other thyroid issues. I had this in 2008 and had to isolate from my family for about a week. (If it is used for other needs, someone please educate me. 🙂 ) 14 years later, all is well, thank the Lord! Kathy, am I correct in assuming that your husband's battle is over? If so, please accept my sincere condolences and prayers on the loss of your precious husband.
Ron you are awesome, you leave no stone unturned! This was so interesting, seeing how the Geiger counter works and testing the sites. Those poor women, just hope they are resting in peace 🙏💙
While I'm not fond of walking through cemeteries, makes me uneasy, and seeing the graves of children are sad, I can get a threefer from you. You walk these sites and not only do I get to see some creative gravestones, but I get a history lesson to boot. The fact that I can listen at work without having to look at the screen is awesome too.
Another amazing video, as always!! these poor women truly suffered severely from that Radium poisoning... I am absolutely positive it must have been so extremely hard being a family member to sit there and watch your loved one die in such a horrible way and not being able to take their pain from them, is just so very heartbreaking... May these ladies, and all the others who also fell victim to Radium poisoning RIP 🙏😢💜
Those poor women so young too, may they rest in peace. Thank you Ron for letting everyone know that it is safe to visit their graves so that they are never forgotten.
Glad you enjoyed my Geiger Counter video - thanks for the reference! BTW - My wife has made a full recovery. Your channel looks quite interesting - I'm going to check out some of your videos this evening.
Hi very cool. Well you helped me learn how to use it, that’s for sure -and I was blown away to learn about all this in healthcare treatments. Old dog learning new tricks -thank you. I am glad she made the full recovery. That is Great news, and maybe for others very encouraging to hear.
I had thyroid cancer ten years ago, it was removed then later that year I had radiation treatment RAI -I131 ablation - it was brutal on my body - three days in hospital isolation and two weeks isolation at home followed, my daughter was too young to be around me and my pet doggo wasn’t safe for him to be around me for those weeks after treatment, they stayed with my parents for that duration, I live with some health problems as a result Im still standing I count my blessings everyday; these dear ladies didn’t stand a chance RIP to these dear souls 🙏
Nice little toy to have in case you run across some other Graves that could be radioactive. Glad the two graves of these women are protected against radiation leakage. I do remember your video on these two women.
Ron, thank you for sharing their story again with us and keeping their memories alive! May they RIP, was wondering if any of their family members came down with anything after being exposed to them?? Just like the Atom bomb when they tested it in NM 1945, to this day the radiation levels are still much higher!! ps, like the Middlebury sweatshirt,!! Robert Frost " The Road Not Taken" wink ... : ) : )
I've had radiation treatment. It was five days a week for six weeks. Never needed a Geiger counter, never warned to stay away from anyone. I also had a thyroid ablation which was done with radioactive iodine. Now THAT treatment called for staying isolated for three days. That was hard as I was a single mother of a toddler back then. Those poor women. I read the book about them. They were treated horribly.
@@carlottachrist4060 Thank you. I was blessed with a super medical team and friends and coworkers who prayed and brought food, etc. In remission from the breast cancer for almost 15 years now. I am beyond grateful. 😁
Welcome back home to the Chicago area my friend. I'm enjoying the videos and stories you tell while traveling around the country. Hope you get plenty of rest time with the family. Looking forward to more of your stories and videos Ron. Hope you and your family have a Blessed Easter weekend ✝️.
I'm so glad you revisted the graves to run your own experiment with the radium counter! I often wondered what the readings would be like today. My uncle passed from cancer. When he was receiving radiation, his medical team often stressed the importance of avoiding anything that he used during that treatment: he had to use a separate bathroom in the house and his food/drinks were often served with disposable utensils. We all had to keep our distance from him for 3 days. The story of the Radium Dial Painters has always fascinated me. If you haven't already, you should definitely read "Radium Girls" by Kate Moore. Anyways, enough of my rambling. Great job once again, my friend!
Interesting experiment there Ron. For you to buy the Geiger device shows how passionate you are with your work. I guess the lead line casket really did work. May they all Rest in Peace 🌹
3-4 feet of dirt, a concrete vault and a lead lined coffin would be enough to stop an extreme radioactive signature way beyond anything these human remains could contain. Simple lead foil is so dense that it really blocks radioactive emissions very effectively.
Great vid man! A word of advice to anyone wanting to wear or buy a vintage watch: always check if they contain radium on their hands or dial. Recent research has shown that repeatedly wearing a radium watch can cause trouble on the long term. To know if a vintage swiss watch has radium, check if they have a small T next to the "swiss made" , if yes then they instead used tritium, which is also radioactive but much much safer. If you're unsure use a geiger counter.
When I had the radioactive iodine treatment (a pill) back in 2008 for thyroid cancer, the hospital kept me isolated for 4 days. Before they released me, an employee with safety gear and a Geiger counter checked my levels. Then they sent me home and told me to ride in the farthest back seat of our SUV with my husband driving and to isolate from my family for 7 days. My husband would have none of it. Had me sit next to him in the car and slept in the same bed from the day I got home. Our 3 young daughters were not in the car and did stay on the opposite side of our home, and I stayed in my bedroom/bathroom most of the time. 14 years later, all are still well, thank the Lord. :)
That's so sad. I saw your earlier video on these fine ladies. I love that you literally purchased a Geiger Counter to go back and check the places out!
Once I was in the waiting room of MD Anderson and had the same GMC-300 E as you have. It was just clicking regular and a guy walked passed me. The thing went crazy. The people behind the desk looked up and were ready to come out so I turned it off without seeing the reading. If ever you think you have to keep watching the meter, you don’t, it will carry on.
When my mother had a internal radiation treatment for endometrial cancer they put her in a hospital room at the end of the hall and there could be no patients in the rooms above, below and beside her. The nurses were only allowed to be in the room a total of 30 minutes their entire shift. I was not able to visit because I was still in my child bearing years. My dad sat outside her room when visiting.
I have to say that I love this channel and watch it all the time. Thanks Ron for the enjoyment that you bring us all! I usually never write comments and I certainly don't mean to be negative here, but I think I can provide some insight. I have a doctorate in nuclear engineering and specialize in how radiation interacts with matter, including radiation cancer treatment. I think it would be informative to discuss the difference between radiation and radioactivity. Radioactive isotopes (radium-226, is a radioactive isotope) emit radiation (alpha particles, gamma-rays, and beta particles) through radioactive decay. This radioactive decay and emission of radiation is known as radioactivity. Without a radioactive source, there is no radioactivity and thus, no residual radiation. There are several types of radiation cancer therapy, but most do not leave the patient with residual radiation because they do not leave a radioactive isotope in the patient. Thus, they present no danger to people around them after therapy. External beam photon therapy is the most widely used form of radiation therapy for cancer and after treatment, the patient does not emit radiation and is not radioactive. Some radiation treatments introduce a radioactive isotope into the patients body somewhere and these are the types that leave the patient emitting radiation, albeit at very low levels. An example is brachytherapy for prostate cancer, where radioactive seeds are placed, and left, in the patients prostate. The emitted radiation levels are very low and they are only radioactive for a few weeks. On a side note with some simplifications, the gamma-rays emitted by the radium isotope will be attenuated by a small thickness of lead, or by a much larger thickness of a less dense material. They travel long distances in air, because air has a very small density. Soil however, is much more dense than air, but far less dense than lead. Don't quote me for this is just rough estimates, but I would think that a few feet of earth soil would attenuate the gamma-rays by about as much as an inch or so of lead. Without knowing the amount of radioactivity levels from the radium girls and how deep the caskets are buried, I am not sure that we can tell for sure if the caskets were lined with lead or not.
It was comforting for me to know that there was no radiation there, a big question by many. The only way to be sure was the geiger counter and it was intriguing to test it. Thanks again
@@FacesoftheForgotten Absolutely! The Geiger test is the perfect test and very informative regardless of whether lead is present or not. I think it was awesome that you purchased one and tested the graves. If the Geiger showed increased levels that would have been frightening. Thank you again for all of the hours of enjoyment I get out of watching your videos. You have a special gift and I am glad you share it with us.
Thank you for this, it's clear you respect these women as women first, victims second, and you've certainly earned the subscription from this one video alone. As for me, I don't have a personal connection to these women, my grandparents worked in coal in Northern PA, and shoes in the Binghamton, Endicott factories. To say they were exploited would be an understatement, but the way these women were exploited to make things glow in the dark was monstrous.
What happened ? To the people that prepared, the ladies .For burial and went back and put them in lead caskets? Did the mortician embalm them? Does the cemetery or whom checks the graves for radiation? How often?
Gosh, I’ve got to read that book! How very horrible for those poor women & their families. What a crying shame that company didn’t have to pay the families more. Human lives were just expendable to them! Thanks again,Ron. 😡
Hi, wow it's the first time I heard of this story, it's very sad that woman and children were used to make money and lost thier lifes and got the blame for it, got to watch the movie, thanks for taking us with you, great video as always , stay save❤️
My wife had radioactive Iodine treatment for thyroid cancer. We pulled out her grandfather's old Geiger counter and sure enough she was registering. We all had to stay away for 3 days. Full recovery, praise God.
Glad to hear she recovered!!!
How does that not affect her? Crazy!
@@duxwiththefux It does, but when it comes to cancer it depends on the type of cancer what's the best treatment. If you got a treatment that has a place-in radioactive object, it could effect healthy cells as well, but still better if kills the cancer.
So science saves her and you thank god…
It's so strange that we use radioactive iodine to treat thyroid cancer and yet we take non-radioactive iodine to protect our thyroid from absorbing the radioactive iodine from fallout.
RIP to those poor women. I had to take a radioactive iodine pill last December (2021) to shrink some nodules growing on my thyroid. I was told to flush the toilet twice for a week, and not to get around my grandchildren for 2 weeks. I never felt anything different than normal. The pill came encased in a lead container that screwed shut and the doctor and his assistant wore gowns, masks and gloves. The pill was white, and rather large, about the size of a Vicodin. I swallowed it with a cup of water, and was sent home. My thyroid is now functioning normally. I t was very "hyper" before. I will have a follow-up ultrasound of the nodules next month (May) to see if they shrank. I wish I'd had a Geiger counter back in December, just to see how radioactive I was!
Good luck next month!
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Our daughter-in-law had Thyroid cancer. The treatment for that type of cancer is radio-active iodine. She was diagnosed just 3 months after having our grandson. It's really tough. She was in a special isolation unit. They came in space like looking suits. Covered head to toe and open a thermos. It smokes and with thongs handed her a large size capsule to swallow. No visitors, etc. The baby couldn't be around her. Very blessed to have been able to bring him home with us. It's a treatment that does work but it's very rough to go through. Thanks for all you do and share with us. Stay safe. 💀❣
So glad to hear it worked.
We are very grateful for that. There are side effects from having so much radio-active iodine in your body. She monitored regularly.
Oh my goodness. 🥺
My children were little but not babies. That had to destroy her. Glad you could help out. The space suits are one of my experience too and a nightmare
So glad all ok XX
The story about the Radium girls is horrific.
There is a book about these poor women written by Kate Moore.
It’s interesting but extremely sad.
Thank you so much Ron.
Yes ..good reading ...have you read it
Super horrible. The companies were well aware of the dangers and still tried to fight the ladies in court saying their health issues were the girls fault from being “loose and contracting syphillis”
There is a movie to 😉👍
I read the book. Such a sad and horrifying story.
Awesome book. Made me cry as these women were totally ignored by their employers. And they call it ‘The good old days’ 🙄
You might pick something up with a Scintillation counter as they're far more sensitive, however as you said the levels on the ground are perfectly safe but a more sensitive detector might still notice something underground.
Possibly, but a Radon Gas detector, a detector for dangerous Radioactive gas Radon, will definitely be positive at that location due to the amount of Radium she has in her. Radium and Uranium are known Radon gas sources.
@@robertsteinbach7325 radon gas would be detected anywhere. Possibly more would be coming out of the ground around their caskets but it’s unlikely to be an increase that’s harmful since the cemetery is well ventilated and any decay products can spread out
Something. Called Radon and that stuff tends to concentrate in unventilated basement storage rooms...
Thanks Ron for keeping the memory of these brave,unfortunate ladies alive.Bless them all and you as well.
I second that emotion… Keeping their Memories 💐🕊✌🏻🙏🏻
i dont know about brave. they were mislead by lies and taken advantage of and then dismissed as whores with STDs when they started showing symptoms. i wouldn't call that that brave. just tragic.
Such a sad story. It's hard to imagine just how much those poor women and their families suffered because of a company's greed. Thank you for sharing this.
OMG I had no idea about the radiation treatment. I know they stay isolated for a while but figured it was because I always heard that cancer treatments ruins their immune system and they are very fragile and susceptible to germs, bacteria, viruses. I didn't know people had to keep their distance. How do you take care of your loved one in that situation. Ugh.
I'm so glad there was no signs of trouble at those graves. That is frightening about the half life of it being 1,600 years.
Seriously, industries should not be making anything they cannot easily get rid of and it go back to a natural and harmless state. Too late to avoid that on the Earth unfortunately.
I had radiation in 2007. My godmother and I did treatment at the same time. Neither of us were made to keep away from our family.
The only time during chemo I had to isolate was during my stem cell transplant. I was hospitalized for 3 weeks so I could have chemo to drop my immune system to zero. Then after given my cells back I had to stay until my count went back to normal. I had to take antivirals for a year so my immune system could catch up.
The treatment this guy is talking about is a different kind of treatment. Those who have normal radiation treatments are safe to be around, but you are right about keeping some distance because of low immune systems. I was told that if I got sick I would have to stop treatment (they do not want to risk making the others getting treatment sick too) and then they may have to restart the treatment, and there was no way I wanted to do that, so I personally was very careful around normal people when getting radiation treatment.
I got really sick cause of sort of treatment, actually an accident, about 35 years ago.
Been on penicillin since then, 30+ years. Sick and evil world we live in, nobody cared.
@@spiritmatter1553 You are correct, if Nuclear Power Plants are built with modern technology geared for safety, in a location that is isolated from population centers, in locations that are meteorologically and geologically stable, and run responsibly. The US, Canada, and Western Europe has over half a century of a great safety record of running commercial Nuclear Power generating plants, with each plant creating hundreds of millions of kilowatt/hours of electricity every day, without spewing pollutants into the air like coal fire electric plants do.
Let's compare the safety of getting and manufacturing fuel for nuclear and coal plants for the past 50 years in America. If you count Karen Silkwood, one died in Nuclear Fuel production for these plants; during this time HUNDREDS DIED in coal mine collapses and explosions.
In environment damage, the three mile accident was temporary and, in the end, harmed nobody. Coal power generation pollutes the air shortening the lives of people with lung problems (this is proven by medical science) and coal mining creates "tailings" (the waste carbon rich waste rock) that are dumped into the rivers as dams that often collapse and poison the creeks and rivers near the mines, poisoning the local people.
When they test you for heart blockages. One of the procedures has them injecting you with radioactive isotopes. They should tell you that you have to stay away babies and younger people. Also back in the day we used the rule of thumb that after 10 half lives the area of radioactive contamination is safe.
These womens stories should never be forgotten. Thank you for another excellent video
I had radioactive iodine treatment after my thyroid was removed for cancer. They kept doing Geiger readings and released me when the levels went down. Unfortunately, this is still one of the treatments for cancer. I often wonder how much damage it has done.
They have other types where they don't use iodine thankfully
You're here. Thank Goodness and God!
You're OK.
My mother is 75 years old and has 9 pullups on her thyroid... they have been asking her to do surgery, but she is scared too death because she doesn't trust doctors now days!
It’s what my dad had over twenty years ago.
He’s still fine.
@@netsurfers9357 thyroid removal is a pretty simple surgery, better to have it removed then suffer. if she finds a good hospital there shouldn't be a problem.
I used to live and work there in Ottawa! My daughters received a couple of time pieces from Great Grandpa that were made there in Ottawa. Thank you for honoring those ladies and putting any wives tales to rest about their graves emitting radiation. May they rest in peace. 💕🙏🌸
It was heartbreaking for me to hear about their story..the company deceiving the employees about the risk..I really enjoy listening to you. 🙏💞Be safe
I knew an old sailor who had been at Bikini Atoll. He said all the science-y guys were in mop suits and protected, but the regular guys were in cut offs and shirtless running around on the sand.
He said the VA would pull a tooth every few years to monitor the levels in his body. He wasn't even 70 when he died.
this story has always fascinated me those woman worked endless hours and when they got sick little was done to help may they be at peace another great video
R.i.P to all these women, thanks Ron for sharing their memories. Stay safe out there.
If you want to read the Curies' original lab notes and other reports about Radium that they discovered, you have to get dressed up and go somewhere that keeps radiation inside the room as the levels of contamination in these notes is still so great.
Wow
My father passed away April 12th, 1959. I was 7 years old he had a wrist watch that he wore. The numbers had been painted with radium. It glowed green in the dark. My great niece has it now and it still glows green. Those poor women went through hideous pain. A fun thing you might try is use your thoughts to raise the number on the Geiger counter. We tried the experiment in our meditation group. It worked. Welcome home Ron!
if you put my geiger counter to your father's watch right now, it will detect some radiation. you can google that.
Of course it would..it still glows a green light at night.
Cool...now make the dead rise for a few minutes.....
I hope your great niece does not wear that watch on her wrist! There was a 2018 study showing the old Radium dials produce high amounts of radon and are more dangerous than we thought. Store it in a case and only open it outdoors where the gas can safely escape
Artemis, I have told her. But we aren't in contact anymore. I was hypnotized by that watch as a little girl.
You are never disappointing Ron, like you say you learn something new everyday. I've had several loved ones with cancer and after treatments
never told to isolate ourselves from them. Just another example of how things change in cancer treatments . Loved the guessing game for the si-fi video , can't wait to see the extra touches you come up with, have enjoyed your previous episodes with birds flying Wheels moving in photographs . Thanks for keeping us so entertained and caring about those who might have been forgotten otherwise. Many blessings to you and your family
There are different types for different types of cancer
That was interesting, informative and poignant. Those poor women must have suffered dreadfully and their families devastated. An excellent video.
I too had the thyroid radioactive iodine, I had twins about 18 months, a 4 yr old and a 7 yr old. Was difficult too but they didn’t give us a counter or anything to use at home for those 3 days. I think of that today, and I’m sure it was a semi low dose compared to them. It’s very sad. I wonder if anything ever happened to their family members in the long run. Interesting…but very sad. For all of them. Thanks Ron great video !
@@spiritmatter1553 thank you, many moons ago I’m old now lol
When my stepfather had radiation in the hospital he could have a visitor but there was a short “lead” wall you had to sit behind and you could not fully enter his room. The part I cannot confirm is he told us he glowed in the dark... he told some good ones, and I think he really believed that. I tend to think he may have been somewhat delirious.
My mother had radiation and chemo treatments 5 years ago and no precautions were taken.
@@lindasprout9526 I think there are different types of radiation. From what I remember his was a type of injection to treat thyroid cancer. He survived colon, prostate and skin cancer, but ultimately ended up with metastasis in his bones and there were no more chemo options left.
@@lindasprout9526 Precautions are taken after internally implanted radiation treatments. These are usually small implants, such as pellets or beads, and are implanted near the tumor site and left in place either temporarily, or permanently. The permanent implants stop emitting radiation after a few days. The patient will be radioactive during the first days after treatment, contact with others is limited.
One of the girls realized just how bad it was when she got up at night for the bathroom. She saw a glow, realized it was her mirror, and that her bones were glowing through her skin.
@@lindasprout9526 Right most who have radiation treatment for cancer don't need to do these precautions
Glad you made it home safe from your trip Ron.
It's very comforting to know that the radium in those women's bones hasn't came out of those graves. It's scary to think that something like that could happen. (if it wasn't for them being in those lead caskets)... It does make ya wonder if their bones are still glowing down in the ground.🤔😬 Glad you did this video Ron, it had been on my mind also if the radium would be detected after all these years. Glad its not. Stay safe out there Ron.🙂💟
I remember the video you did about those women. They suffered such horrible deaths. Thank you for this video. May they RIP in Heaven. ❤️❤️🙏🙏
I had radiation when I had cancer. Nobody was in the room with me during the scan!
Good to know those caskets are doing there job. I’ve often thought of those poor women since I saw your first video about them. Such a terrible, sad story. They way they were treated and used is just appalling. May the rest in peace.
This story is so sad. Thanks Ron. You’re truly a compassionate person. Glad you’re home safely.
Hi Ron, you are one wild and crazy guy! LOL I think it’s so cool you bought a Geiger counter. Thanks for sharing and take care 🌺💕
I learned something today, thank you very much.
I just wanted to tell you how much I admire your determination! Your interests have no end! And for us who can't travel your our legs. Thanks for what you do, and I pray you can keep the information coming in.
God bless you and family. You talk highly of folks who have gone before us. We, your subscribers, see you in the category you see in others! Keep on teaching us. And I never realized how pleasant cemeteries could be! It is a pleasure to visit them and allow ones imagination wander. I still prefer the sound of water, but that's 8 miles away and our local cemetery is 3.5...
Guess you know where I go for a little me time when life doesn't allow a trip to listen to the water.
Wow!! That was ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING, Ron!! Looks like the lead lined coffins are doing their job!!
May those poor Radium Girls RIP!! XXXX
This is just FASCINATING! Love the follow-up on this story, and so tragic for these young women.
Hi Ron, I have been watching you from 'the beginning'.. every episode I have watched leaves me thinking that you're a lovely man. Thank you for the sensitivity you bring to your videos. Be well, be safe
Thank you for yet another very interesting video! Have you ever covered the Sylvia Likens case from Lebanon, Indiana? It's pretty brutal and mind-boggling, but this young girl truly deserves to be remembered, as well as her sister.
This is so fascinating! Thank you for posting this follow-up to The Radium Girls. I'm glad that the lead lined coffins are doing their jobs.
My aunt's eyebrows fell out when she was caring for my cousin, who had radioactive seeds in her breast. Family members were skeptical of whether that could happen, but it's not the same as caring for someone who came home after standard radiation treatment with a beam. It seems to me that patients with these seeds should have to remain in the hospital until they are removed, so they can be cared for by people with proper PPE & training.
My Dad died last year from Osteosarcoma - too many xrays in his head as a child most likely, he had Fiber's Displasia making extra bone growth in his face. Thank God we use lead vests these days.
I used to feel x-rays as a child. Nowadays they are so minimal i cant even feel them anymore.
That's why medical professionals are VERY iffy about giving kids x-rays! (Atleast in my country)
Pretty sure those flags are more for staff or people who dig graves to warn them about proceeding with extreme caution if one were to have to dig near them. It is a bit of a relief to know that the lead lined caskets are working.
Its great to have you home safe and well Ron. I remember the first visit to the graves of these young woman. They suffered a horrible death. R. I. P
Hi Ron, I went through radiotherapy for 4 weeks in 2019 for Breast Cancer but was never told to stay away from people etc, maybe its different in the UK! R.I.P to all those women.
My husband had radiation treatments for cancer. 6 weeks at a time and numerous times during his 13 year battle. We were never told to isolate and I drove him home and was his caregiver the entire time. Maybe an implanted type or something else.
By the way Ron I’m very glad to have found your site. I enjoy seeing the parts of the country I’ll never be able to visit. And the respect and information you provide for so many forgotten loved ones.
I believe this only applies to radioactive iodine given in pill form to those with thyroid cancer or other thyroid issues. I had this in 2008 and had to isolate from my family for about a week. (If it is used for other needs, someone please educate me. 🙂 ) 14 years later, all is well, thank the Lord! Kathy, am I correct in assuming that your husband's battle is over? If so, please accept my sincere condolences and prayers on the loss of your precious husband.
Ron you are awesome, you leave no stone unturned! This was so interesting, seeing how the Geiger counter works and testing the sites. Those poor women, just hope they are resting in peace 🙏💙
While I'm not fond of walking through cemeteries, makes me uneasy, and seeing the graves of children are sad, I can get a threefer from you. You walk these sites and not only do I get to see some creative gravestones, but I get a history lesson to boot. The fact that I can listen at work without having to look at the screen is awesome too.
Ron, you are always bringing so many interesting videos!!! Things to learn...
Thanks for sharing with us all your knowledge and great videos!!!🙏👍🏻😇
Another amazing video, as always!! these poor women truly suffered severely from that Radium poisoning... I am absolutely positive it must have been so extremely hard being a family member to sit there and watch your loved one die in such a horrible way and not being able to take their pain from them, is just so very heartbreaking...
May these ladies, and all the others who also fell victim to Radium poisoning RIP 🙏😢💜
Those poor women so young too, may they rest in peace. Thank you Ron for letting everyone know that it is safe to visit their graves so that they are never forgotten.
Glad you're home safe and sound. This was a great idea. So sad for the women 😔. May they RIP. Hey from Texas ❤️
We watch this channel every evening! Love ya Ron!
Thanks for going back to these graves. It answers a big question. I don’t think you are crazy.
Glad you enjoyed my Geiger Counter video - thanks for the reference! BTW - My wife has made a full recovery. Your channel looks quite interesting - I'm going to check out some of your videos this evening.
Hi very cool. Well you helped me learn how to use it, that’s for sure -and I was blown away to learn about all this in healthcare treatments. Old dog learning new tricks -thank you.
I am glad she made the full recovery. That is Great news, and maybe for others very encouraging to hear.
Welcome Home Ron. Tragic what those poor women went through. Great idea to check the graves with the counter. ❤
I had thyroid cancer ten years ago, it was removed then later that year I had radiation treatment RAI -I131 ablation - it was brutal on my body - three days in hospital isolation and two weeks isolation at home followed, my daughter was too young to be around me and my pet doggo wasn’t safe for him to be around me for those weeks after treatment, they stayed with my parents for that duration, I live with some health problems as a result Im still standing I count my blessings everyday; these dear ladies didn’t stand a chance RIP to these dear souls 🙏
Nice little toy to have in case you run across some other Graves that could be radioactive. Glad the two graves of these women are protected against radiation leakage. I do remember your video on these two women.
Ron, thank you for sharing their story again with us and keeping their memories alive! May they RIP, was wondering if any of their family members came down with anything after being exposed to them?? Just like the Atom bomb when they tested it in NM 1945, to this day the radiation levels are still much higher!! ps, like the Middlebury sweatshirt,!! Robert Frost " The Road Not Taken" wink ... : ) : )
not sure about family members, a good question.
Catherine Donohue's son (Thomas Gene Donohue) died at the age of thirty caused by Hodgkin's Lymphoma.
I've had radiation treatment. It was five days a week for six weeks. Never needed a Geiger counter, never warned to stay away from anyone. I also had a thyroid ablation which was done with radioactive iodine. Now THAT treatment called for staying isolated for three days. That was hard as I was a single mother of a toddler back then.
Those poor women. I read the book about them. They were treated horribly.
Sorry for what you have been through 🙏🏼
@@carlottachrist4060 Thank you. I was blessed with a super medical team and friends and coworkers who prayed and brought food, etc. In remission from the breast cancer for almost 15 years now. I am beyond grateful. 😁
Welcome back home to the Chicago area my friend. I'm enjoying the videos and stories you tell while traveling around the country. Hope you get plenty of rest time with the family. Looking forward to more of your stories and videos Ron. Hope you and your family have a Blessed Easter weekend ✝️.
you too.
I'm so glad you revisted the graves to run your own experiment with the radium counter! I often wondered what the readings would be like today.
My uncle passed from cancer. When he was receiving radiation, his medical team often stressed the importance of avoiding anything that he used during that treatment: he had to use a separate bathroom in the house and his food/drinks were often served with disposable utensils. We all had to keep our distance from him for 3 days.
The story of the Radium Dial Painters has always fascinated me. If you haven't already, you should definitely read "Radium Girls" by Kate Moore. Anyways, enough of my rambling. Great job once again, my friend!
Thanks Ron for sharing their story, so sad that happened when they were so young. Take care, RIP Ladies.
I'm glad I found your channel. Your content is always interesting and enjoyable.
What an interesting experiment, Ron! You come up with the best ideas. Thanks for the video.
I found out about radiation affects when I worked for the funeral home. Great informative video. Thank you.
Very interesting! Glad your back in our Midwest! Thanks for all that you do Ron! RIP ladies........
Ron, loved learning a bit about the Geiger counter for everyday use.
Geiger Counters have really evolved. They used to be huge😂 Love your channel❤
agree! I was shocked...on Amazon, lol
Interesting experiment there Ron. For you to buy the Geiger device shows how passionate you are with your work. I guess the lead line casket really did work. May they all Rest in Peace 🌹
A true Public Service video. Thanks, Ron
3-4 feet of dirt, a concrete vault and a lead lined coffin would be enough to stop an extreme radioactive signature way beyond anything these human remains could contain. Simple lead foil is so dense that it really blocks radioactive emissions very effectively.
Great vid man! A word of advice to anyone wanting to wear or buy a vintage watch: always check if they contain radium on their hands or dial. Recent research has shown that repeatedly wearing a radium watch can cause trouble on the long term. To know if a vintage swiss watch has radium, check if they have a small T next to the "swiss made" , if yes then they instead used tritium, which is also radioactive but much much safer. If you're unsure use a geiger counter.
Good info. Thanks.
I remember this story Ron they will b glowing for a 1000 yrs
Glad you decided to come back and give a update. Thanks Ron. May they RIP
You are always so wonderful and respectful of each memory and site! Just beautiful, thank you!
Hello MR Ron have safe travels absolutely love your Adventures 💟
Great follow-up Ron! And thanks for the science!👏👍🏻
You are the only person I know who owns a Geiger counter. 👍😅
Best. Keychain. Ever!
I want one.
Thanks for doing this video. I had been wondering since the other video if radiation was coming from their graves.
This is interesting! Thank you for doing this,
This story about the girls was so sad,
When I had the radioactive iodine treatment (a pill) back in 2008 for thyroid cancer, the hospital kept me isolated for 4 days. Before they released me, an employee with safety gear and a Geiger counter checked my levels. Then they sent me home and told me to ride in the farthest back seat of our SUV with my husband driving and to isolate from my family for 7 days. My husband would have none of it. Had me sit next to him in the car and slept in the same bed from the day I got home. Our 3 young daughters were not in the car and did stay on the opposite side of our home, and I stayed in my bedroom/bathroom most of the time. 14 years later, all are still well, thank the Lord. :)
Love your channel, love how you let people not forget about people who passed on
Hi Ron I am from Ottawa Ontario ...so cool didn't realize their was another Ottawa in Louisiana. Love all your videos !!!!!!!
Another good one! Thanks Ron for the story, so interesting!
Thank you Ron always great to listen to all of this story. Don't forget Dorothy kilgalken is a great story. God bless you.
will not be doing Dorothy probably, relates to that little gray haired author, we had a tiff, would involve lawyers. don't buy his book.
So fascinating. They say you can sometimes get a reading on old Fiestaware.
My aunt was a Radium Girl. Lived into her 80's.
The photo with her children is just heartbreaking, thanks Ron xx
That's so sad. I saw your earlier video on these fine ladies. I love that you literally purchased a Geiger Counter to go back and check the places out!
I loved that episode!!!! Those poor girls!!! Also the movie was great too!
Thank you for bringing the receipts, Ron! I always learn something from watching your videos.
Thank you Ron that was very interesting I am off to watch the other video now I missed it.
Great Video,Ron.May Those Ladies Rest in Peace.Thank You for telling this story.
Very interesting! Good to know the precautions are working. Glad you’re back😊
"And over 2,000... Forget it. Call the government! Get out of there!" LOLOLOLOL
Welcome home Ron thank you for the recap on this take care.
Once I was in the waiting room of MD Anderson and had the same GMC-300 E as you have. It was just clicking regular and a guy walked passed me. The thing went crazy. The people behind the desk looked up and were ready to come out so I turned it off without seeing the reading. If ever you think you have to keep watching the meter, you don’t, it will carry on.
When my mother had a internal radiation treatment for endometrial cancer they put her in a hospital room at the end of the hall and there could be no patients in the rooms above, below and beside her. The nurses were only allowed to be in the room a total of 30 minutes their entire shift. I was not able to visit because I was still in my child bearing years. My dad sat outside her room when visiting.
I have to say that I love this channel and watch it all the time. Thanks Ron for the enjoyment that you bring us all! I usually never write comments and I certainly don't mean to be negative here, but I think I can provide some insight. I have a doctorate in nuclear engineering and specialize in how radiation interacts with matter, including radiation cancer treatment. I think it would be informative to discuss the difference between radiation and radioactivity. Radioactive isotopes (radium-226, is a radioactive isotope) emit radiation (alpha particles, gamma-rays, and beta particles) through radioactive decay. This radioactive decay and emission of radiation is known as radioactivity. Without a radioactive source, there is no radioactivity and thus, no residual radiation. There are several types of radiation cancer therapy, but most do not leave the patient with residual radiation because they do not leave a radioactive isotope in the patient. Thus, they present no danger to people around them after therapy. External beam photon therapy is the most widely used form of radiation therapy for cancer and after treatment, the patient does not emit radiation and is not radioactive. Some radiation treatments introduce a radioactive isotope into the patients body somewhere and these are the types that leave the patient emitting radiation, albeit at very low levels. An example is brachytherapy for prostate cancer, where radioactive seeds are placed, and left, in the patients prostate. The emitted radiation levels are very low and they are only radioactive for a few weeks.
On a side note with some simplifications, the gamma-rays emitted by the radium isotope will be attenuated by a small thickness of lead, or by a much larger thickness of a less dense material. They travel long distances in air, because air has a very small density. Soil however, is much more dense than air, but far less dense than lead. Don't quote me for this is just rough estimates, but I would think that a few feet of earth soil would attenuate the gamma-rays by about as much as an inch or so of lead. Without knowing the amount of radioactivity levels from the radium girls and how deep the caskets are buried, I am not sure that we can tell for sure if the caskets were lined with lead or not.
Great info thank you
It was comforting for me to know that there was no radiation there, a big question by many. The only way to be sure was the geiger counter and it was intriguing to test it.
Thanks again
@@FacesoftheForgotten Absolutely! The Geiger test is the perfect test and very informative regardless of whether lead is present or not. I think it was awesome that you purchased one and tested the graves. If the Geiger showed increased levels that would have been frightening. Thank you again for all of the hours of enjoyment I get out of watching your videos. You have a special gift and I am glad you share it with us.
Thank you for this, it's clear you respect these women as women first, victims second, and you've certainly earned the subscription from this one video alone. As for me, I don't have a personal connection to these women, my grandparents worked in coal in Northern PA, and shoes in the Binghamton, Endicott factories. To say they were exploited would be an understatement, but the way these women were exploited to make things glow in the dark was monstrous.
What happened ? To the people that prepared, the ladies .For burial and went back and put them in lead caskets?
Did the mortician embalm them?
Does the cemetery or whom checks the graves for radiation? How often?
Gosh, I’ve got to read that book! How very horrible for those poor women & their families. What a crying shame that company didn’t have to pay the families more. Human lives were just expendable to them! Thanks again,Ron. 😡
Welcome to Ottawa Il Ron, interesting video. Rest In Peace to these Sweet hard working women . Go see the statue placed in their honor downtown
This one was so sad ...they had so much life to live. Stories like this remind me to be more grateful 🙏
Attitude of gratitude 😊
My brother had numerous radiation treatments for lung and throat cancer. They never isolated him.
it all depend son the treatment, many isolation is not needed.
Hi Ron from the UK another interesting video I never knew any of this those poor women that had a short life very very sad.stay safe R on.
Hi, wow it's the first time I heard of this story, it's very sad that woman and children were used to make money and lost thier lifes and got the blame for it, got to watch the movie, thanks for taking us with you, great video as always , stay save❤️