Desoldering without hot air
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2018
- Desoldering without hot air and desoldering tools
Tools used in video
Soldering Station: FX-951
Soldering Iron: FM-2028
Soldering Tips: T12-K, T12-BCF2/BCF3
Flux: Mechanic MCN-UV50
Solder wire: 63/37 0.8mm
Other: Copper wire 0.6mm
Microscope: Andonstar ADSM201
Temperature: 315 ~ 400°C (depend on size of components and heatsink area on PCB)
Note: in North America & EU, soldering iron FM-2028 and tips T12 series switch to FM-2027 and T15 series, shape of tips are same - Věda a technologie
I have been soldering for over 60 years and this is the first time seeing this. Thank You for this video.
The copper wire trick for the micro USB connector is brilliant and now permanently stored in my mental flash memory! Thanks!
yes and no! Dont do that in case u intend to resolder that USB connector somewhere else cause, USB connector got plastic parts thats gona melt... or to not heat it much...
What I do, I first desolder holding left and right pin that fixe the connector to the PCB, then desolder the rest 5 Pins, this why if it is done well the connector can bere-used 😉
@@DrZipZwanok
looks like top notch low melt solder and great iron and tips. no problem with destroying parts. I'm a butcher. I use crappy solder, irons, and flame gas torch to get stubborn pieces off. One day, I'll learn to use quality equipment for a good job, but for now. I'm a chop shop butcher. Thanks for inspiring to do a more pro job.
Hadn't seen the copper wire trick before, kudos, that was clever. And I like that all the players got to take a bow at the end ;-)
I have 13 years of experience and are very used to soldering and desoldering and actually don't need to use a wide or elongated desoldering tip like in the video, just use a sharp tip. SMD components have 2 to 18 pins that can be removed easily, there are several components such as 8pin is opened by heating the body of the actual component is not recommended, but if the component is definitely damaged it is not a problem, but don't do it on good components
What products do you use besides the hot iron? I'm having a hard time to remove lead free soldered components just with the iron
Even if the part is not working the board most probably is. Hot air gun costs times less then one supermarket trip
finally he returned!!! relaxing soldering video :)
That process seemed like the "hot tip" and was a visual treat... Thank you.
Thanks for the copper wrap around ic pins trick. Great idea
Yes. I liked that too.
i think it's kapton tape
Best soldering techniques channel on CZcams
The way he uses Iron blows my mind.
You are legit the best teacher and the definition of if there is a will there Is a way.
It's a pleasure to watch your videos!
It's great. I've learned a lot of skills here.
This channel is by far the best soldering tips and general info about soldering channel i’ve ever found
WOW !! Outstanding skill and technique. I'm gonna try these on some scrap computer parts before I feel comfortable but I never even thought it possible. Great video.
After watching his video, I tried it myself when recapping an old IIci motherboard. It works well. This trick removed 12 corroded capacitors with no lifted pads or burned boards. Just use lots of flux (with an open window/fume extractor) and lots of solder (for thermal mass).
Which flux
@@apavithran6756 soldering flux also known soldering wax
Very useful. Thank you.
No it is not useful because the components are exposed to heath too much time and are internaly destroyed
creative! i really enjoyed watching!
Very Very good desoldering system, the best i have saw in all time!
I wouldn't have thought that adding solder would help to remove it. Very Good.
Those components agreed to come out of the board. Impressive.
😂😂👍
It's suitable only for dead components
Thanks. It was so cringe. I would have commented the same.
A dead component is one of the biggest reasons you might want to desolder something
I could disagree with you. All temperature sensible components I've successfully desoldered and then soldered again are still working. I couldn't tell the same about heat gun...
Your comment just proved how much you know about soldering... Although I do know both techniques this one is even safer than hot air as the heat is only provided to the soldering points - not to the core of a chip or PCB that acts as a heatsink like it is in the case of using hot air. Both techniques have their advantages and disadvantages but what you've said it totally wrong.
This is very costly....not good
Great video, everything very clean and practical, I loved this technique !!! It's WORK !
Master!...great demonstration. clap clap clap!!!
This is so satisfying to watch
so true . : )
And it's even more when you actually do it, I love the process
Agreed
same
I can't stop watching soldering videos. XD
this man is a genius!
wow .. didnt know if these were even possible. hats-off!
Thanks @Andrakavo! tried out some of the techniques you showed here and they work so great!
Cool video! The copper wire trick is nice. I have seen it before but never tried it myself. Maybe I will now.
Thanks for sharing a very cool and interesting video. I’m sure it will help lots of people stuck in a bind.
👍🏼
Да для варианта в полевых условиях самое то используя подручные средства, лучше не придумаешь
always nice to see such a good soldering trick like this
Ничего более завораживающего не видел!!! Просто супер!!! Прям медитация!
Thanks a lot for this video!) It's awesome!
The only problem with that techinique is that you heat up too much the components.
With a really controlled hot air unit you can reduce the stress in the heat-sensitive chips
Not really. Depends on how tight the components are in the board and most component can handle that heat otherwise hot air will also damage other component with how they heat up not only the component you want to remove.
If the chip is faulty and needs replacing, so what?
With some old boards u will pick up the the foil...
@@jay22alco that's why you have various sized tips on your hot air gun....
true specially if you use cheap irons and it gets dirty easily
the flux is strong with this one
I can even smell it from here 😁
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Aonde agente encontra esse material pra comprar
@@wilsonlimeira4252 se chama pasta de solda ou fluxo de solda, geralmente vc encontra para vender em lojas de componentes.
The increasing difficulty levels, accompanied by great musics. I want to play this video game!
So helpful. Wish I could like this twice
Overheating, destroy others parts.
This should be aimed to replace the desoldered part, not to fix the pin connection from bad soldering, so yes, next step is to replace the part.
Yes
@@aswingsharif6729 This makes sense, tq
@Soren Kylo @Maxwell fuck you scammers, who are also spreading unhealthy insecurities
Even with a hot air technique, what happened to the caution we were told to have when soldering so as not to overheat delicate chips?
Removing parts is one thing as they're going in the bin but got to solder the new part back on. These things are done with pin point accuracy by machines in factories for a reason.
Good video, I was looking for this.
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This guy (presumably) is like desolder king!..
I love the Adams Family style music too! Nice video
Awesome
Great video, everything very clean and practical, I loved this technique
Excelente vídeo, tudo muito limpo e prático, adorei esta tecnica
i envy so much your soldering skills
A kind of great soldering art!
Thanks for the copper trick, very useful :)
We're not worthy, we're not worthy! Amazing skills.
For small components use two soldering gun. For dead parts use an exacto and cut all the pins.
amzing! thank you for the tips :)
I have heard of this method but first time to see it done , good backup tool .......
I had to do something similar last week and failed amazingly...we'll, maybe I'll give it another try.
PS:There is something pleasant watching your solder jobs.
Sorry so late but, "Failed amazingly"? Did you mean "Miserably"? lol
@@paulreeder5241 It was amazing how bad I failed that job...that was the intention of the sentence.
It was indeed a miserable attempt.
Have a good one mate.
What I do with QFP's is using the chisel tip to melt the solder and bend one pin up at a time, but remember to press the chip down while you're bending the pins so it doesn't lift any solder pad that's still soldered to other pins.
Truly a good video :) Keep on doing your very good videos!
This is the most satisfying video ever...
You are a master on the art
+Androkavo Professor :)
I love your welding techniques very much and recommend for you the following tips:
T15-BCM2
T15-BC28
2:11 This trick is very useful for me, thank you very much!
The wire trick is pretty neat.
That flux works pretty nice, surprised to see that it was a "Mechanic" brand. And the chip desoldering was epic :)
what is the brand of the flux?
@@Pixell_Eletronica Mechanic, obviously. Watch the video until the end, all the tools are listed.
PRO....The Real Master Soldrr
ваши ролики как произведения искуства)))красиво методично интересно . спасибо 😀
А что за флюс?
Awesome tips for smd components desoldering, if it's broken or burned, doesn't really matter if you apply some overheating, trying to re-use components it's a different story, I will put in practice those skills in the video
3:50 "DIE DIE DIE DIE
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE "
🤣🤣 LoooL...
шо этим хотел сказать
@@overept8801 А шо нипанятна?
@@user-vm1hi7bo5s бля я ток до пер на резисторах было написано тип смерть
@@overept8801 Ок)
Éso fue hermoso. 💖 Lo voy a practicar. ¡Gracias!
Like por hablar español jajaja xD
@@elcomentador2408 ¡Jaja! Saludos desde Córdoba, Argentina. 😎
Good Job, great work!
Good Work Buddy. I appreciate your work.
Nice video; brings me back to when I was an assembly and rework tech. We had a hot air station but during rework I usually opted for a wide chisel tip or a hoof tip on the Metcal. So quick and easy. Only used the hot air for QFN packages and things of that sort.
Es fabuloso esta técnica ok
5:00 really creative method
Nice video... now i finally know, what the knife tip is good for :)
Thanks man exellant job I love it so much your perfect 👍
All of that looks really impressive (like Chinese magic ;-)), but a bit tricky for a beginner...;-)
And there's still a big risk to damage the components while trying to remove them like this.
BTW, you can also use Rose alloy instead of ordinary solder to reduce the operating temperature (it's quite a common approach).
Ty friend!
A qualidade da solda ajuda muito e com essa técnica melhor ainda. Obrigado!
very useful information, cheers!
Very valuable information. Thank you.
You are essentially heating the IC to the Solder melting point, then it transfers heat to the legs and to the pad too. That DPAK appears to be little bit difficult to remove with soldering iron.
You cut the two two or three leads off, then you can easily remove the package.
For this I just use thin braided copper wire with flux and when heated with a soldering iron, the copper absorbs all the tin in the circuit freeing the components
Wicks are pedantic. A big blob till tweezer-time is faster. Every method has merit. Know your limit.
awesome technique. thanks for sharing.
Thank you for the useful video!
Superman 🤣😎👍 Тосно like ставить нужно....!!!
I’m assuming the parts you removed are unusable afterwards
Also god damn that’s a nice flux
If they're already broken and need replacement I guess it's fine anyway.
Satisfying video. Thanks.
Very useful video. Thanks a lot and Hats off
By this process, any component easily can be destroyed and loss it's property...
I dont thinknso: Wave soldering which is very popular in board factories is the same process for building board.
If a component is being removed, more often than not it has failed so what's the issue??
@@ro63rto or you are removing it from a donor board
Androkavo, your video is very clear! What microscope did you use?
Lol, read the description.
Out of series my friend you are an animal ... great !!!
Thank you very much!it is very useful for me!
Bardzo pomysłowy sposób bez przegrzewania bocznych układów łapka w górę
Great idea, very helpful video! Presumably the soldering iron temperature need to be lower or else the PCB copper will detach from board? Also the components can't be reused anymore due to prolong exposure to such high temperature?
Still a newbie so don't know about the temp. But this is desoldering not recovering components. So yes most components will be dead after this treatment.
Excelente información
Muchas gracias maestro
That's a great tip adding a copper wire to add thermal mass to larger components.
doesn work with 20 dollar soldering iron though especially if it gets dirty
Ok, the componets may already be damaged, so no need to worry about excessive heat. But what about the copper trails?
"Desoldering without hot air"
...and destroying components in the process.
Lol he is taking the iron on top of the components
corisco tupi this is supposed to not damage the pcb
If you solder parts of they are anyway damaged already
Plus a resistor or capacity in that case isnt too expensive
If you know a clean way to desolder a 32 pin IC (SMD, i forgot the exact housing)
Then please tell me, and no the desolder copper mesh doesnt work cause you will overheat to over 230C (as stated in the datasheet)
I bet all those components still work.
@@010falcon x-acto knife, totally cold! gentle, no need to do it in one movement. or czcams.com/video/FTQqjggeklo/video.html
or microsolderingsupply.com/fast-chip-chip-quik-lead-free-low-temperature-smd-removal-alloy
"FAST CHIP low melt/low temperature solder removal alloy
Sn12/Bi49/In21/Pb18, 4.5ft
This low melting temperature removal solder alloy uses the same alloy composition as the leading Chip Quik® lead-free SMD removal alloy. It melts at temperatures as low as 58°C, yet is safe to use in leaded and lead-free applications. Use this for removing extremely heat sensitive components ...."
ivo kostić absolutely true
But i am a dude sitting at home, not wanting to invest 20$ into a solder and more money into flux
When i remove an IC then i remove it because its faulty, i dont have to be careful
And heck even if it is still working, really, 40 cents for a new one
Even the effort to desolder it like that is too high
Still you brought a solution, never seen of such a solder
Again still somebody like me or you, will never use this
Even at work, my boss says to just desolder them quickly, or like you said cut them of (but then you gotta use desoldering wick, which in return wastes again more time, even if you dont use desoldering wick)
We live in a meta, where every part that is damaged (partially) gets thrown away.
I send my laptop to acer after using it for 8 months
They said it was exposed to more then 20%RH and that part the warranty doesnt cover.... after asking if they can repair it, they stated it would cost 90% of the laptops price....
You really know what you are doing with an iron :)
creative! learned something here!
Can you make a video comparing acid free plumbing flux to electronics flux?
To anyone who's worried that this might damage components, I've done this multiple times on SPI ROM chips to dump them and never have I had any of them fail. Only real issue is the board that might burn a bit.
Nek minnit...
Was just wondering about the heat
Thanks for this tutorial! ❤❤
Thanks for such a nice technique
Wow ...this is a great skill, an experienced man in soldering. We are a beginner must learn longer to have a skill like this. It's a great job showed us. But by the way... may i know..what flux and tin kind you applied there ?!
Thanks for this! Are the components re-usable afterwards?
Fried
I think they are reusable. When desoldering using air, you also apply heat to whole component and not only its legs. So I think the temperature on the component is not so far from air desoldering
The resistors are probably reusable.
With active components you run the risk of heat damage. But sometimes They work
@@neilkurzman4907 well if we actually check the internals of ICs, we'll see that there are very thin wire going between the chip leg and the actual crystal. I don't think much heat can be transferred through it. So as for me, heating the IC's case is way more dangerous than heating its legs
@@eugenegrebionkin
The plastic also doesn’t accept heat very well. You can guess, but the question is is it worth reusing a potentially damaged component.
This is very useful. Thank you very much
Very satisfying video!