About the Columbia CD release of the Trio Of Doom. This release in my opinion is legally very problematic. How do I know? Well, because Tony Williams himself told me so. In mid summer of 1980 I was at the Jazz Festival Muenster to see the Tony Williams Trio with Tom Grant and Patrick O'Hearn. I knew Tom Grant from many years before, so he was surprised and happy to see me there. He invited me to meet Tony backstage, because he knew that I'm a drummer. When we met, Tony was in extremely good and funny mood, making jokes and laughing out loud. Just a few days before I got the Havana Jam I & II albums. So I told Tony how much I liked his playing on these. "What are you talking about?" he was asking me. I said well, about the Havana Jam releases on Columbia. And Tony again: "I don't know this, what is that?". I told him it's the live recording of his Trio Of Doom with John and Jaco from Havana. Then immediately Tony's fun was gone. He said "What? The live recording of Trio Of Doom? Where did you get that from?" I said from a record store and that it was officially released by Columbia a few days ago (in Europe). And Tony again: "They've really released these recordings? Trio Of Doom? Are you sure?" I said "yes, I'm sorry, I just bought it in a store, it's called Havana Jam and Weather Report also is featured". "I didn't know this, never heard of that, no one told me, no one asked me for releasing that. Are they nuts? I didn't want this to be released!" I tell you Tony was very very angry and totally upset. The mood was gone and that's how the meeting with Tony has ended for me. But how could I know that Tony hated this Band? Because at the time we all didn't know about the disaster with Jaco in Havana. I came to have a nice relaxed meeting and at the end I gave really bad news without knowing it. So it's very clear, that Tony never would've agreed to release the CD from 2007. By the way, at the time it wasn't clear, that the tracks on the Havana Jam albums were only the studio recordings.
I was searching for any example of John and Jaco playing together, and this did not disappoint! Power-trio indeed - just a bit too radioactive to endure. Love all three of these guys.
4:12 mark is such a smooth, funky groove. This is the kind of bass playing I most enjoyed from Jaco, when he could find it in himself to just slow down a little and just funk out.
When I first bought this album we would play this song at 45 rpm and it was a blast! Para Oriente! Trio Of Doom! it wasn't until way later that I started to play it at this current tempo. I still prefer the faster tempo though!
@@josephlosi6974 My favorite bassist who played with McLaughlin is Ralphe Armstrong who was amazing at such a young age. I liked his tone on the fretless bass, which at least to my ear, blended better with the other instruments, rather that being a "lead bass".
Did they compose this or is it a cover? It's beautiful. Aside from the overtly 70s -ness in some parts, I love the things they do together. It's probably a challenge getting these personalities to bond.
All originals: the first piece is “Para Oriente” by Tony Williams- also played by VSOP; second piece is “Continuum” by Jaco (and on his first album); third is “The Dark Prince” by JM and recorded for his “Electric Dreams” album.
well that usually happens with super groups.....they don´t finish to be more than three parts together ...... which is when great music comes out out.... Tony never was able to maintain a stable group .......... my favorite was lifetime with ted dumbar as guitarrist ...
About the Columbia CD release of the Trio Of Doom. This release in my opinion is legally very problematic. How do I know? Well, because Tony Williams himself told me so. In mid summer of 1980 I was at the Jazz Festival Muenster to see the Tony Williams Trio with Tom Grant and Patrick O'Hearn. I knew Tom Grant from many years before, so he was surprised and happy to see me there. He invited me to meet Tony backstage, because he knew that I'm a drummer. When we met, Tony was in extremely good and funny mood, making jokes and laughing out loud. Just a few days before I got the Havana Jam I & II albums. So I told Tony how much I liked his playing on these. "What are you talking about?" he was asking me. I said well, about the Havana Jam releases on Columbia. And Tony again: "I don't know this, what is that?". I told him it's the live recording of his Trio Of Doom with John and Jaco from Havana. Then immediately Tony's fun was gone. He said "What? The live recording of Trio Of Doom? Where did you get that from?" I said from a record store and that it was officially released by Columbia a few days ago (in Europe). And Tony again: "They've really released these recordings? Trio Of Doom? Are you sure?" I said "yes, I'm sorry, I just bought it in a store, it's called Havana Jam and Weather Report also is featured". "I didn't know this, never heard of that, no one told me, no one asked me for releasing that. Are they nuts? I didn't want this to be released!" I tell you Tony was very very angry and totally upset. The mood was gone and that's how the meeting with Tony has ended for me. But how could I know that Tony hated this Band? Because at the time we all didn't know about the disaster with Jaco in Havana. I came to have a nice relaxed meeting and at the end I gave really bad news without knowing it. So it's very clear, that Tony never would've agreed to release the CD from 2007.
By the way, at the time it wasn't clear, that the tracks on the Havana Jam albums were only the studio recordings.
Jaco, solos simply wonderful.
Anyway, Peace to all.
Abe Union pride wow says it all 3 musical gods best jazz fusion there is
I was searching for any example of John and Jaco playing together, and this did not disappoint! Power-trio indeed - just a bit too radioactive to endure. Love all three of these guys.
"just a bit too radioactive to endure." What a p*ssy!!
So sweet, so running smoothly, love it, miss you Jaco, you still
are the best ❤️
THIS is the best song n the album! 😎
4:12 mark is such a smooth, funky groove. This is the kind of bass playing I most enjoyed from Jaco, when he could find it in himself to just slow down a little and just funk out.
Jaco played beautifully.
All sounds so free yet so coherant. Raunchy yet cool. Love it
Wow - I just found this! Thanks for posting, I didn't know it existed!
Such craftsmanship!! Spectacular.
That prog sound, very amazing ! tx for that vid'
When I first bought this album we would play this song at 45 rpm and it was a blast! Para Oriente! Trio Of Doom! it wasn't until way later that I started to play it at this current tempo. I still prefer the faster tempo though!
Três grandes talentos.
The begining of Jaco’s sad end of life
Amazing.
THIS, is instrumental virtuosity!
Thank you for this. That's awesome!
Crazy blending of personalities, but they got along beautifully when playing.
Maybe not so much, Jaco being Jaco…a shooting star flashing out too soon.
@@josephlosi6974 My favorite bassist who played with McLaughlin is Ralphe Armstrong who was amazing at such a young age. I liked his tone on the fretless bass, which at least to my ear, blended better with the other instruments, rather that being a "lead bass".
I think “Visions of the Emerald Beyond” with Ralphe Armstrong on bass is Mahavishnu’s best record!
Acoording to McGlaughlin it was a total bust--Jaco out of control on coke...but it sounds pretty good...
Liked the third part!
Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow!.............
Wow! Is there more of these three together ?
A studio recording of these same three pieces also exists and was issued officially a while back with the stuff here from Havana Jam (1979).
Another lost trio. Jaco was agenius but also a problem.
Did they compose this or is it a cover? It's beautiful. Aside from the overtly 70s -ness in some parts, I love the things they do together. It's probably a challenge getting these personalities to bond.
All originals: the first piece is “Para Oriente” by Tony Williams- also played by VSOP; second piece is “Continuum” by Jaco (and on his first album); third is “The Dark Prince” by JM and recorded for his “Electric Dreams” album.
Jaco punk'd John, John was the fuck up here, tried to play it of onJaco, shame!
Really?
????? Eh ..No !
Actually Jaco played part 3 in the wrong key and he and tony Williams almost had a physical fight over that later. You can search and find details.
Tony went after Jaco in the studio and McLaughlin had to get between them to break it up.
Hahaha. WTF are you talking about?
Bored to tears and completely disappointed.
try it again, this time with with the sound on...
well that usually happens with super groups.....they don´t finish to be more than three parts together ...... which is when great music comes out out.... Tony never was able to maintain a stable group .......... my favorite was lifetime with ted dumbar as guitarrist ...
Lol! Exactly!
HAHAHA!
lol
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