Best Value Hardtail Mountain Bikes 2022 | 5 Amazing Trail Hardtail MTBs from the UK
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
- Best value hardtail mountain bike 2022: Some of the best trail hardtail mountain bikes come the UK. In this video we look at 5 british MTBs that are well spec'd and highly capable.
Time Stamps
Intro 0:00
Vitus Sentier: 0:50
Nukeproof Scout: 3:30
On One Hello Dave: 6:23
Ragley Big AL: 10:02
Ragley Mmmbop: 12:42
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I have a Ragley Big Al and it's the best bike I've ridden, including some full suspension ones.
But it's been such an eye opener, enabling me to start riding steeper and more techy trails that my skills have developed in that sense, and now I want something even more extreme: the Titanium brother to the Hello Dave: The Wrekker.
One day it shall me mine 😎
A good bike like the Bike AL will always help you progress. 🙌
I want a Hello Dave or a Wekker too.
Recently built up a Ragley Mmmbop, awesome hcht.
Great bike. Would love to build one myself. Enjoy!
I own the hello dave here in Australia, and it's incredible! It climbs like a goat and inspires so much confidence on steep runs and jumps. It's so damn compliant and controllable.
I've heard a lot of positive feedback on the bike. It looks super fun. Enjoy!
I like that the UK manufacturer's go with external cable routing. I got a Trek Rosco 9 a couple months ago, the internal routing improves the looks a bit but I would rather have the easier access for service/upgrades.
I like that too. Much easier to work with..
I’ve got an XL Hello Dave, its a BIG and heavy bike but it climbs very well. I can’t explain how but it cleans most steep hills in my area. Oh and downhill, jumping and through chunk, fantastic and composed. It’s also very comfortable. I run 2.6 Minnions and have 3/4 inch clearance through the stays. Amazing machine.
I love hearing feedback like that! It's a bike so crazy that it just works. Enjoy!
Soooooo much info! Well done.
Thanks Rico. I try. 😁
Great video bro! Glad ya like my Mmmbop! It’s been a pile of fun for this old nut job.
One of my personal favorites for so many reasons. Enjoy!
These hard tail choices videos only reaffirm the quality of my steel 2017 Kona Explosif hard tail!!!!!!
When you know you have the right bike, there's no better feeling. Enjoy!
I like it when I see my bikes in a video! These bikes are everywhere in Uk bike parks and for good reason! Good video and also it’s good to mention that all these bikes are on sale a lot of the time
There is a high concentration of fantastic hardtails in the UK that are priced well. I love it!
Where is my lovely Cotic 😢Great channel! subscribed!
Thank you! Cotic bikes are nice and we'll have to cover them in another video.
Great video. The only thing when it comes to HTs is compliance. Hard to cover without riding all these, but to me that’s like #2 on the list after proper geo.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. 🙏 I agree 100%. Geo, sizing and compliance are definitely important but also very personal. One rider's compliant bike and another's harsh ride. The guides are there to help make people aware of what's out there from a good value perspective. Spreading the hardtail love 🙂
We do love our hard tails over here
I’m happy with my 4 year old Orange Crush for the fall and winter riding here in the North East!
Very cool bike. Enjoy!
The stock tyres on the Hello Dave are brilliant👌🏻 heavy but grip don’t knock them👍
I can't argue with actual user experience. 🙂 Enjoy!
A brilliant concise review of some excellent British 🇬🇧 bikes. I think the majority of these now fall under the umbrella of Wiggle which means that you can pick up one hell of a bargain. 👍
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. The UK has so many great hardtails, and they are so well designed.
I live in SW Colorado and own a Cotic Solaris Max. Recently changed it to a rigid carbon fork and having lot’s of fun.
Very cool bike. How does it ride with the rigid fork?
@@AdrenalineIsLife I use it for everything from gravel roads to blue steep and rocky trails. I love the light feel and precise handling compared to the Fox 34 but the Fox was definitely faster descending. Tires are 2.4 Rekon running low PSI 18 fr 20 r and no problem with flats. I weigh 76k
@@jamessher6956 That's awesome. A very unique setup. Enjoy!
I’ve got the $1100 27.5 base Sentier, and other than no dropper it’s a great bike. Other than contact points it’s completely stock and been running well for a year+ now.
An excellent value. These days a dropper can be had for cheap if you choose to go down that path. Enjoy!
@@AdrenalineIsLife just as soon as my daughter is big enough to pedal her self full time on the trail I’ll be getting one. I do ok without one for now but I definitely miss it on occasion.
Keep calm and ride a hardtail 😎🤙🏾
Yes! 🙌
Im on a marley. Very fun, playful and jumpy. Recommended.
I love my Marley! Fantastic all rounder. I've done quite a bit of content on the Marley. Enjoy!
Hello from Liverpool ,England 👽 I picked the Kona!
Welcome! Enjoy the new bike.
WHYTE 905 and the 909 surely should be looked at too, also the Stif Squatch as well. ❤👍
I think we need to take a look at both of those brands at some point. Cotic and Orange too.
@@AdrenalineIsLife so many brands in the UK that are selling Hardtails, its insane really.........Orange Clockwork/P7 and Crush are very good and the Cotic BFE and BFE max are beautiful bikes too. Maybe some of these go over budget tho. Also the DARTMOOR primal is worth a look at to as this is an awesome brand. If your after some premium HT in the UK then look no further than Stanton/ Starling/ BTR/ Curtis and possibly Ribble, Bird and Cotic. Thx for your content man, much appreciated. 👍👍
@@johnster187 It's really mind blowing. So many great hardtails. Thanks for watching.
i have 21 sentier vrs 29 , quick steering easy to change direction , good on twisty trails , mine has the shimano brakes 420/410 ,nice brakes ,
Alot of newer bikes with long slack geo will not be as nimble as your Sentier. The right tool for the job. Enjoy!
Nice round up on the specs; but specs & numbers on paper alone mean little.
The big issue is how do they ride? Does the frame beat you up; in what situations does one excel over the other, etc etc
Whyte is well worth a look also ..👌
There is one more potential con with Ragley frames, and that is if you get metallic paint then the paint is really week and chips off alarmingly easily. Awesome bikes though, I wouldn't change my Marley for anything.
I know what what you mean. The framesets come with a little bottle of touchup paint lol. My Marley is metallic gloss black. It scratches easy. No major chips but I did add some frame protection.
@@AdrenalineIsLife Yeah I sadly added my frame protection after the first scratch. The annoying thing is that I rode it on the tarmac to make sure it worked and a stone flicked up and scratched the downtube.
@@davidperry7266 Murphys law. But the positive in that is that you no longer had to worry about scratches anymore. 😃
Nice list I just got the 2021 ragley mmmbop model on sale for 1199 with 117 shipping off wiggle . Can’t beat that price 1317 bucks for a Marzocchi fork , 170mm dropper Sram db8 brakes mine came with raceface cranks instead of the deore . But I’m fine with that .
And mine came with the deore cassette thankfully
A fantastic deal! Some companies will charge you more than double that for an entry level spec. Enjoy!
Yea so far it’s been awesome , a bit differnt riding style is needed . I feel like I have to ride the front end a little more/ ride the fork to get the most of it. And for those that haven’t used the DB8 brakes, they might be favorite brakes so far. I have an older set of guide rs brakes and shimano 6100 2 pistons on another bike. Hopefully they hold up reliability wise. Also it came with a 200mm front rotor and two extra Sram 180mm rotors in the box . Not sure why but hey I’ll take it .
@Matthew .E It's a pretty slack bike and comes to life on steep downhills. They take a little adjustment. I was not a big fan of the Guides. The DB8s are based on the Codes which are much better IMO. Sounds like you made out like a bandit on this purchase. 😃
When you say it cost 117 for shipping do you live in the states?
I've got a Ragley Blue Pig (27.5/4130 Mmbop)
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It's a ripper!
I'm a fan of the Blue Pig. It's a beast! Enjoy.
Good To see my hardtail here! I'm really proud! But some info was incorrect. For the Nukeproof Scout Comp 275 you have to pay only 18xxEUR on Bikester. The tires: Front MMary, back Hans Dampf. The machine came with full SRAM DB8 brake system( 4pistons, Front 203, back180mm rotors), Not full shimano Deore! only the chain and the derailleur was Deore, the crankarm Raceface, and the cassette SunRace.
In terms of money, I wasn't a scam. But the idea was full deore, because of the easier upgrade. Now I need to buy a complete crankarm to be able to mount it on a 36T. I see, the final solution will be the SLX Crankarm XT 36T Chainblade SLX chain, SLX derailleur, and XT shift lever. Later an SLX cassette.
Unfortunately, most bike brands reserve the right to change components on the bike depending on supply. It sounds like you got it for a good price.
You can save some money by keeping the Raceface cranks and just buy a 36t Raceface chainring.
@@AdrenalineIsLife Actually that's a good idea!
Hello dave came from the British tv show "the league of gentlemen"
I will have to look up that show now. Thanks!
Your my wife now Dave🤣🤣
@@ciartdsfa4899 lol
Hello Davvvvvveeeeee 😆
I’m looking for Dave…
"Hello Dave" comes from the excellent, but very weird, League of Gentlemen TV show. The showman Papa Lazarou, would say it before kidnapping people.
Thanks. I just looked it up. I want to give it a watch now.
The Nukeproof Scout Comp Edition actually comes with a Nobby Nic and not with Hans Dampf in the back. I know it because I bought it. :) Also I got a Sunrace Cassette instead of the Deore, DB8 Brakes instead of Shimano and Sunrace Crankset instread of Deore. So not quite near to what they write on their Website, lol. Was a bit disappointed because I had to buy a whole new Bleeding Kit since I just had one for Shimano brakes.
Anyway, the sickest Hardtail I've ever had and I wont miss it anymore!
A lot of people are getting some different specs than what's listed, unfortunately. It's been happening with several brands in the last couple of years. It's a nice hardtail though. Enjoy!
I go for on one scandal..hehe
The Scandal is definitely a more versatile bike. Enjoy!
Bird Zero AM 27.5 is a British HT that rides like a bmx bike. Fun bike, great spec for $$ and top notch customer service. Only downside if purchasing online from USA is the shipping and import duty fees.
Sadly there are a lot of UK brands like Bird that don't have the distribution on the US that I would love to try.
@AdrenalineIsLife yeah definitely. Still, cool video to spotlight the fact that brits make some really good hardtails. Thanks for putting it together!
@@timothyj982 glad you enjoyed it!
Got my eye on the sentier, but im wondering if vitus will tweak the geometry for the 2023 models, im 6ft and my ideal reach is 457, may be i could make the 446mm more comfortable🤔
It's definitely due for a refresh. Still a great bike in it current form. Proper reach is important though. Big difference between 446 and 457. Some of that can be fixed with stem length but you can only take that so far.
After considering all the bikes in this video, I went with a 27.5 Sentier due to availability and value for money and my preference for the smaller wheels. I was a bit concerned about this short reach comment I see a lot of, but I just don't find it a problem. I also ride a Rocky Mountain Altitude and my previous bike was a Mondraker, well known for being long. I suspect the geo will get updated, but I'm riding steep technical terrain in the alps and not lacking any confidence on the bike. It's not an enduro slayer like the slacker bikes, but for me is proving more versatile. It's fun on XC and tight singletrack, where a Commencal Meta HT I rode just felt dead. But that bike was a faster descending sled. If I hadn't got this I would have gone with a Scout or Marley, and I'm sure I would have loved those too.
hah i live in sibiria and long long winter is here. Unfortunally rear absorber dosn't work when teprature below 0. And now i'm looking for hardtail. what do u think about nukeproof scout for winter riding ?
I just bought a Scout for myself. I think it's a great bike. Its a very versatile bike.
You may already know this, but I would suggest setting up the fork with a thinner oil for the extreme cold. Another option is to change to a coil spring fork.
I hear Sibiria is beautiful. I've always wanted to visit.
I’ve got a hello Dave with a custom spec frame was 200 pounds on eBay Huuuuuge upgrade on my old ragley so capable downhill and on jumps
Great price on the frame. This is a bike I'd love to spend some time on. Enjoy.
Hey our winters aren't _that_ long. They only last from October to May!
😃
A friend of mine destroyed a designed in USA Schwinn suspension bike's pivot in 7 hours... It is wet in Britain.
Love those British hardtails!
can someone explain to me, why Whyte bikes do realy often not appear in those lists? I think, the 901, 905, 909 line are pretty aggressive, good looking and in the end awesome bikes....
I think it's mainly due to the brand's limited distribution globally.
What are you opinions on the big wig race
Great spec and solid frame. Aggressive geo but not so aggressive that's it's a one trick pony. Highly recommended if you're looking for a hardcore hardtail.
@@AdrenalineIsLife awesome thank you just waiting for the restock now at chain reaction cycles
Does Nukeproof export their bikes? Thanks in advance!
They are distributed through Wiggle and Chain Reaction Cycles but there is also a dealer locator on their website
nukeproof.com/pages/find-a-nukeproof-store
I love HTs. There is still nothing that convinces me that a FS is better for me. I've tried them and I don't like them. HT are fast, simple, minimalist and really more enjoyable.
I agree. I think a lot of people would enjoy a hardtail more if they gave it a chance.
I really want that nukeproof, but the value is a little lacking considering extra $ for shipping to the US.
The shipping cost on bikes from the UK has gone up a good amount sadly.
The exchange rate for £ is in fee fall right now against the $ , maybe worth keeping an eye online prices from chainreaction or wiggle in the UK
@@michaelsturgeon5210 This is a good point. I noticed after I recorded the voiceover and finished the edit that prices on some of the Ragley bikes have come down.
On the Nukeproof's site there's a list of US stores. Maybe you could find some near you.
@Явор Марков They just returned to full distribution in the US. There should be more US dealers added or at least more reasonable shipping cost on direct sales.
I've gone from a dave to a big al , the daves a lot of fun but the weight and rear chain stay length makes it a not very playful bike that's impossible to lift the front wheel on drops unlike the big al which is incredibly playful and light .
Hello Dave is certainly a tank and I imagine it excels in certain conditions. I am very much a fan of short chainstays for the reasons you described. The Big AL is a great replacement. Enjoy and thanks for watching!
@Chris Gardner is it a good tank or a bad tank?
The Mmmbop is a lot of fun. I’ve had it for about 6 months.
"Hello Dave" comes from the movie 2001:A Space Odyssey.
This video made me a little annoyed tbh. So many frames I would love have no dealers in Canada and the shipping and duties are wild. I am a 27.5 plus guy for my hardtails. The Ragley Marley really turns my crank. Vitus looks amazing as well. I have a full sus for smashing; I like my hardtails to be more agile, so I can more easily hop and throw them around on the small tech. I think you like aggressive hardtails more than I do (and reflected that in your list), but this was a fantastic resource. Cheers.
I can appreciate your frustration. There were a few that can't be had here in the States that I exlcuded. So many great Canadian bikes Chromag, Knolly, Devinci, Norco. Dang, maybe I should do a Canadian bike vid.
I love my Marley btw I had put it up for sale but I'm having a hard time letting it go 🙃
@@AdrenalineIsLife If you wanted to, you definitely could. Rocky Mountain, RSD, Banshee, etc. Those UK brands carry a lot more 27.5's though. The only Canadian brands with 27.5 hardtails are in the boutique price range.
No Cotic BfeMax?
Thats a very nice bike. I'd like to feature it in a different video.
Didn't include Pace, steel framed 27.5 and 29 options.. one of the original UK mtb manufacturers
Ok. I'm embarrassed to say that I've never heard of Pace but I just looked up their bikes. 😯 Wow! Thank you for sharing.
Yeah, Pace, Stanton, Pipedream Cotic, Stiff - the UK really does have a gnarly list of superb hard tail manufacturers.
It really is a shame the Merida Big Trail doesn't get to the USA - instead you're stuck with the Specialised Fuse with a low stack height so its pretending to be a HCHT (Specialized is the reason Merida isn't over there) - You guys are missing out on a ripper bike. I know.. I have one!
I'm sad about that. I hear great things. I've been biting my tongue on the Specialized Fuse.
@@AdrenalineIsLife LOL..I said it for you... and its bloody pricey for what you get.. at least in Australia it is.
@@marcstolk6682 Same here in the US!
so sad to see how expensive bikes have gotten. got my full suspension enduro vitus for $1900. Not all you get a is a hardtail. :(
Prices have definitely gone up a bit. But I'm referencing the suggested retail price. Street prices will frequently be less. With Covid madness over you can expect to see more discounting.
What if the price difference between the MMMBOP 1.0 and 2.0 was only $300?
That makes the 1.0 more appealing. You'll have a wider gear range, and the Yari with 35mm stanchions is a stiffer platform.
Thanks!
@@sherizaahd you're welcome!
Where is Orange, Stanton and Cottic? 🇬🇧🏴✌
They were out of scope for this video. Either above the price threshold or limited distribution. I'd like to cover those in a later video.
one one hello dave or Marin El Roy iam 184cm tall 6ft
Tough call. Both meant for extreme gnarly terrain. The Marin has shorter chainstays and will be easier to manuever. The Hello dave is slacker and the long chainstay requires a little more muscle to move it around. Depends on your riding style.
In an mmmbop you're gone. In an mmmbop you're not there.
😆
Hello Dave is from 2001.
Mbop is named after a trail in the UK not the boy band.
What's the trail named after? 🤔
Whyte 900 series are best hardcore hardtails
Excellent bike! Unfortunately impossible to get in the USA at the moment.
2022 whyte 909 vs 2022 orbea laufey h-ltd vs 2022/23 trek rosco 9 if all where £2000 which would you choose ?
No, too stiff
Identiti AKA is another.
Thanks! I didn't think of that one.
Mmmbop is named after a trail in the uk not that awful song 😂
What is the trail named after? 🤔 😃
BOP FTW!
What you're saying isn't true mud doesn't do any more damage to a hard tail than it does to a full suspension
Tell that to my Rocky Mountain Altitude.