CDCR inmate recidivism report leaves basic questions about prison programs unanswered
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2023
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In response to this reporting, CDCR provided the following statement:
“CDCR is committed to providing all Californians with accurate recidivism data that is complete and has been thoroughly vetted and analyzed. Our 2017-18 report was published in a timely manner, following the national standard of reporting arrests, convictions and returns to prison on a three-year cycle.”
Im homeless haven't been to jail for anything serious in almost 8 years. I see these people coming and going all the time. Ive been victim of their criminal behavior. Im sick of it.
Unanswered? The answer is clearly that their early release credit system is not helping society. The credit that these offenders should be given, which they aren't, is credit for being adult humans- they are responsible for their own actions. Stop making excuses for them like they are children or animals or something; it is degrading.
Here is where the state can apply "equity". If a scumbag kills someone in the commision of a crime and is convicted, then they will be executed; equality of outcome. Instantly the statistics will show a huge reduction in repeat crime. The prisons don't work. Instead of less time for good behavior, you should get more prison time for bad behavior. We don't get any discount in taxes or bonuses for being a good citizen. But if you commit crime then you get prison time as it should be. Lets carry that "equality" over to prison time. The state only cares that the dirtbags act nice inside prision, once they are out, the politicians don't care what collateral damage and meyham happens. You could say it just gives the politicians another talking point to get elected and never be held to account or solve.
i was in a highly successful prison program here in california a little over a decade ago many of the men ive had in contact from that time have came out here and flourished👏
After we painted that mural to Stephon Clark and paid his family millions, they figured out that they can keep doing crimes and sue if they get arrested by a white cop.
@henry martinez, congratulations. Keep up the good work!
Congratulations!! I agree, especially for those who have done decades in prison and completed the work to rehabilitate themselves.
Let me give you guys my perspective. I was a CDCR officer for 15 years. 13 years at CSP CORCORAN and 2 years at PVSP. I have identified 3 reasons.
1. Once getting out, finding gainful employment and housing is damn near impossible when you have felonies.
2. Most inmates are lazy and feel that they are above minimum wage when they would make 100k a year dealing drugs. They become addicted to the money they cannot earn honestly.
3. The average TABE score/education level/IQ of your typical offender is at 5th grade level. Thats just not quite enough for an ever developing technological world.
Cbs Sac are you planning to do a story to go deeper in this conversation? I would appreciate your help to share things like- the story of how the state/federal sets accountability measure with the prisons,
-what programs have they tried. What do they consist of? Is fed try those most effective, at scale?
- are they requiring any consistency in their most successful programs, as scale?
Theres so much unanswered in this story. Your only scratching the surface. Do it justice. Help the movement forward cbs sac!
Don’t just pump fear, or negative leaning perspectives
Chris La'Cour has been incarcerated since 1998. Since he was 17 years old. With promise and potential for so many areas in life, he chose to be a gang member. Involved and well known within the entertainment industry, he's done numerous music videos and commercials. Almost embarking on a music/movie career at the time he was incarcerated. He told us "regardless of other areas I could have excelled in, once the streets capture my mind and attention it was all over". The street life became his addiction of choice. Upon his incarceration, however, he began to educate himself and developed a different state of mind. A business and political state of mind. As well as an individual that would do anything to help Urban America evolve into a better part of society. "all I want to do is help my people reap what they deserve. I'm tired of seeing my people at the bottom of the barrel, when they harness potential to be the greatest society has to offer". He is more than the person that just sees and speaks about a problem, he is a man of action. That is why he has formed the nonprofit organization La'Couria. A business and economic center with an emphasis on mannerism and refined cultivation, that would not only teach the Urban Youth and adults business and economics, but it will train them as ladies and gentlemen as well."We are very good at discovering the problem and articulating it in words. But we are not good at executing a solution. And that solution and the execution of it, is all I'm concerned with. Everything elseis just 'mouth fart'. Hot, stinky ass air". He is now the author of a renowned piece of magnificent literature ' Book of Kings'. A book that reflects the brilliance, sagacity and eruditional mind that impressively flourished while incarcerated. Without question, he has evolved into a man of great intellect and genius. One that has not only written on the subject of mastery, success and productivity; he is clearly executing these theories.
You cannot "give" someone rehabilitation. You can give them opportunities to take college courses, learn a trade, or participate in substance-abuse treatment, but if they are not ready to change, they won't. I know, because I was that person for many years trapped in the cycle of drug addiction, felonious behavior, and incarceration. No one gave me rehabilitation. I got sick and tired of being sick and tired. The consequences of my drug abuse (state prison) became so unacceptable to me, I finally changed my behavior. And to the point of letting inmates out earlier than their sentence dictates, most inmates already have their mind made up on day one--am I going to reoffend, or am I going to straighten up and fly right? For the ones who are going to reoffend, it doesn't matter if they get out 2 years early or two years late, they are not going to change. Unfortunately, there are many like that, and they all have release dates.
And the rest of us, well, we do recover.
I know an innocent man that has been incarcerated almost 30 years and still is in CA
Thats a huge part of why they reoffend. No family support is also a big factor. However....they brought it upon themselves.
They'll have family support coming from everywhere if they get shot by a white cop. Lol.
This sad when so many men and women are doing time despite being innocent
I've been involved in prison ministry for 33 years, if someone wants to change it doesn't take many words or a great program. Look at all the great men that have spent decades reaching out to fools and the fool population has just increased with free housing and free food
It's working . If I hadnt done anything to better myself . I'd have been in again by now. Shit I'm outta work an on drugs an I still don't do things I use to because I know better ways to earn now days
Registrants have a recidivism of 1%
My husband has been incarcerated since 1997 and is still waiting on a Neverending waiting list. The prison system unfortunately helps the wrong people, that's why many return
Bring back "Three Strikes."
When did they get rid of it? Still in affect
They will repeat and offend again if you don't watch them closely or that were the judges and all others could be responsible for their repeating offense this is where you have Marshall step in and start investigating their backgrounds watching them closely to see if they're doing exactly what they're supposed to
When an inmate would rather go to prison in CA than live on the street, maybe it's too comfortable for them. ITS TIME TO TOUGHEN UP THE CA PRISONS SO THAT THE INMATES WONT WANT TO RETURN! ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A REWARD FOR HEINEOUS CRIMES! STOP GIVING THE INMATES SO MANY RIGHTS! THEY 'RE CRIMINALS! THEYRE NOT GOING AWAY
TO BOARDING SCHOOL FOR THE PRIVILEGED! CA COULD TAKE A LESSON FROM SHERIFF JOE ÀRPAIO!
I know many convicts, they really avoid going to jail in Mexico or even Maricopa county
That's what happens when you vote democrat.
Has nothing to do with politics. Republicans is why they had to change the system. Pete Wilson, Ronald Reagan
This is classic reductionism. Prisons exist within the larger community. Imagine trying to find a job with a felony on your records. If they can't find employment they won't just starve. They will return to what they know.
Except in Ca the fair chance act made it illegal for employers to ask about criminal history. Only after job offer and acceptance can a background check be conducted. I mean should diaper snipers be working in daycares?
but I get what your saying.
And they constantly avoid hard labor, which is what us uneducated guys have to turn to, hard labor, it'll keep a fool out of trouble
Prison turns inmates into con men. They con their way out of prison. 🤔😳🤬 Our justice systems is flawed beyond help.
Bad apples will always be bad apples.
They don't teach nothing in jail or prison period
This is what happens when you have a Democrat ran state 🤦🏻♂️
Notice you had to pick an African American and a Caucasian women to use as an example
Exactly! Further perpetuating Fears of the "Black Man"
I worked for CDCR- CMC West Record's. There is no rehabilitation taking place in the CA Prisons! I think it would be best if we just vote to send every single offender to death row.
I hope you work somewhere else now. My nephew was murdered and I know other victims, and even our mentality is not as bad as yours. Never would we have said send every offender to death row. People wonder why inmates don't rehabilitate part of the problem are people employed like you.
You should be ashamed of yourself for saying such things
@@noah52599 you all have to actually sit back and really think about the process of "rehabilitation", a perfect example is the statement you yourself made:
"...inmates don't rehabilitate part of the problem are people employed like you."
Exactly!!! LoL
Mental health services, rehabilitating, teaching, and instructing is a difficult job for law abiding citizens in the free world.
Now imagine how difficult it must be to entice qualified teachers, instructors, and mental health professionals to come work inside a prison. . . qualified people don't want those jobs.
You are part of the problem. I'm a former clinician at CDCR and have seen many Men working on themselves, those who have done the work and have helped others turn their lives around. I learned early on how and why employees were harmed. You would have been one of them had you of worked around the guys I had the pleaseure of pouring self worth and life into.
Many of the guys, "Lifer's" have gone home and hit the ground running! They are Administrators at UCSF, Working on Prison Reform with the Governor, Certified City & County Weilding Inspectors, Psychology Students etc. You worked in "Records," not the Main Line or in Mental Health, and were pretty much one of the "scared" ones who stayed behind the wall talking, too frightened to show your face! Had you of come from behind the walls and interacted with the guys, you would have found out that many of them were good people with good hearts: they just had no structure and guidance. Dont act like no one in your family system has never gone to jail/prison! We all have been touched. Only by the grace of God was it not one of us. For we have all done something wrong, and are not without Sin; We just knew when to stop!! We are ALL just ONE decision away from Prison. To my knowledge, Jesus is the only one who walked on water. Judge not least ye will be judge with the same measure you passed onto others. You are no better than anyone of those inmates. I guarantee you that many of them will get into Heaven before you!
Chris La'Cour has been incarcerated since 1998. Since he was 17 years old. With promise and potential for so many areas in life, he chose to be a gang member. Involved and well known within the entertainment industry, he's done numerous music videos and commercials. Almost embarking on a music/movie career at the time he was incarcerated. He told us "regardless of other areas I could have excelled in, once the streets capture my mind and attention it was all over". The street life became his addiction of choice. Upon his incarceration, however, he began to educate himself and developed a different state of mind. A business and political state of mind. As well as an individual that would do anything to help Urban America evolve into a better part of society. "all I want to do is help my people reap what they deserve. I'm tired of seeing my people at the bottom of the barrel, when they harness potential to be the greatest society has to offer". He is more than the person that just sees and speaks about a problem, he is a man of action. That is why he has formed the nonprofit organization La'Couria. A business and economic center with an emphasis on mannerism and refined cultivation, that would not only teach the Urban Youth and adults business and economics, but it will train them as ladies and gentlemen as well."We are very good at discovering the problem and articulating it in words. But we are not good at executing a solution. And that solution and the execution of it, is all I'm concerned with. Everything elseis just 'mouth fart'. Hot, stinky ass air". He is now the author of a renowned piece of magnificent literature ' Book of Kings'. A book that reflects the brilliance, sagacity and eruditional mind that impressively flourished while incarcerated. Without question, he has evolved into a man of great intellect and genius. One that has not only written on the subject of mastery, success and productivity; he is clearly executing these theories.
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