Just watched Quiet Cool vs Traditional whole house fans vid and glad I did. Also will most likely be calling Fox Family HVAC for maintenance plan as they appear to be honest and I’ve been hoping to find an HVAC outfit with good old fashioned integrity and customer service.
I installed a WHF about 20 years ago and it's been running fine for that entire time. I bought it at Home Depot and had a contractor install the hardware while I did the electrical hook up. I also installed a Power Twist belt which made the entire unit quieter and put less stress on the pulleys/shafts of the fan. Using a Smart Switch from Leviton I can not only set the run time but also schedule a start/stop time. If I had to install one today, I would use this type of fan over any other.
We installed a 36" "Grainger" (don't know manufacturer, I imagine it's relabeled) in '83. It has 5 blades w belt drive, sealed bearings. cools off the house at night, and quickly clears smoke from the kitchen when someone vacates vigilance while cooking. No repair or maintenance needed for past 37 years. We're located in Sierra Foothills in Meadow Vista, although, the lows aren't very low...last night 70, in July, we had a string of mid-80 lows (a/c all night).
*Well-made, delivered quickly, and easy to install with **Fastly.Cool** . I may be imagining it, but it seems quieter than the 14 year-old unit that I pulled out. Of course it was noisy at the end due to failed bearings, so hard to compare. :)*
Possibly one of the best informative post on whole house fans & the new type! Thanks for the specs!!!! I knew the old whole house fans moved tons of air!!!! Noise is always an issue with most people! The ECM/ICM motors are nice but they go bad just like other motors!? (Modules go bad etc)! I’ve done HVAC 20 plus years. I like simple over complex any day(more reliable & cost less!)! If u have a house over 1400-2000 square feet…. U gotta pull some air to make a difference! I’m not buying a 200 CFM model unit… please! Give me 2000 CFM or more! Your whole house ole school fans are moving serious air!!!! I LOVE WHAT IM SEEING & HEARING ABOUT THEM!👍🏽🤙🏻🙌🏽👌🤘🏼👋🏼
We have the Quiet cool unit. Midsized unit. It is quiet and fairly strong for our 2,story house. I would have upsized a bit but it is still nice and efficient . Need to hook up my clamp meter and get an amp reading. It was a diy job on a multi hour timer switch . Great explanations and sounds like a great company. Good job 👍
We live in El Dorado Hills and have a QC Stealth ProX 7.0. Our house is 3,700 sq ft. It does a great job at cooling the house and attic in a reasonable amount of time. We recently put in a second, garage attic fan which helps cool the attic above our garage. The garage attic joins our house attic so this second fan helps the house one work more efficiently.
I lived in a home in northern NJ for 30 years. It had a huge 8200 CFM fan mounted on the gable wall in the walk up attic. Mechanical clock timer in a closet on the first floor. Worked great for decades. It was my in-laws house so I knew it was at least 20 years old when we moved in in 1990. The motor burned out around 2000 so I just put in a new one. I investigated getting the old one rewound but my local motor guy sold me a brand new one for the same price, I think because I had a good relationship with him and he was very busy at the time. The new motor ran exactly like the old one. While you could hear that 40" blade turning downstairs, it was not obnoxious. When I sold the house last year it was still working perfectly. If your bed was under a window you needed a blanket with this thing!
Motors these days are crap unless the brand is Dayton, Leeson, Baldor and just a couple other brand names. Any of these good motors are going to start in the $300 and up cost but they will run like the old run of the mill motors made 50 to 60 years ago. Just any motor brand these days is a crap shoot. Most old motors simple need new ball bearings, new brushes and other minor items. The rotor and stators rarely burn out.
@@Garth2011 Norwalk. I've had mine for years. They were, without question, the best juicers on the planet. You can watch some of the old videos here on CZcams. After several generations, younger family members took it over and ran it into the ground. They literally vaporized after ~100 years in business.
These fans work well in dry climates where 70F and dry, not so well when its 70 degrees and humid outside in the evenings. By the way, I live in San Diego CA and absolutely love our Whole House Fan all year long. It would not be practical at our South Texas property in the summer time except in Fall when the humidity drops.
Quiet Cool's only downside is lower airflow, being in the Sacramento area, that is a pretty minor downside. The warranty definately gives them a huge bonus. Having seen and installed both products, I personally lean Quiet Cool. Easier/flexible install, more affordable, and a higher quality motor with great warranty. Ultimately, I wont tell a customer no if they want the other brand, but I'm pushing QC all the way!
I respect your comment and have a question. I just moved into this house in Los Angeles, CA and it has "blown-in" insulation which I'm not a fan of. I want a Quiet Cool whole house fan. My question is will the fall blow the insulation all around and make even a bigger mess? Thank you
@@aevoss if it is installed properly, it should not blow the insulation all over the place. QC fans are strapped up by the roof trusses, so im general would blow over the attic insulation.
There are articles about how much air is really needed to lower the temps and be comfortable. Lots of folks will compare air movement by the amount of wind that is generated vs the amount of volume that is "moved". RPM is not necessarily the main goal as is a large fan blade turning at the right speed to move air volumes to satisfy conditions.
I've had a whole house fan since the 70's. When set to high it's loud but it moves a bunch of air. Besides the noise the only other downside is the dust. Since it's bringing in tons of outside air it's also bringing in the outside dust in the air. I live in SoCal so it saves us a ton of money. I cool down the house at night and morning and close it up and the AC doesn't come on till usually around 2 or 3 depending on what the coolest temp was at night. If it gets down to 60 and the highest daytime temp is 95 then I never turn on my AC. It amazes me that most people don't know what a whole house fan is.
I'm looking at buying a place where it's around 100° outside. I saw this huge louvered thing in the ceiling and said, "what the hell is that?" My realtor explained it to me and i was still mystified. Thanks for educating me on this, and because i'm like the rest of us and don't want to spend my hard earned money on utility bills, the WHF is going to be running!
I’m an HVAC guy from Canada. The first thing I thought about is down drafting a HWT or an old draft furnace. Maybe mention that the windows must be open first before you start the fan. Im guessing you guy have a lot of electric HWT. I have been interested in getting one of these because we do get hot days but where I live it cools down at night 59 F. I really like your videos too.
So I went with the Stealth Model 3.3x. The noise level on high is kinda like a low hum, its a bit like our Hvac unit. The low is much less, but still noticeable. A few factors- We live in a 1300Sq.ft single story home. The attic space is TINY, only goes down the middle of our house...its more like a CRAWL space. That model was recommend for the size of our house...but as far as PULLING IN air...its very little happening there. Now with that said, if we open ONE window in the back room...then a good amount of air is being pulled in. I basically should have watched this video before I bought. I would have gone with the One model above the recommended. the Stealth 4.8x.
Huh? You need to have a window open for drawing in air. We open our back slider door and our fan is in the attic on the second floor...of course you need to open a window or door, otherwise you wouldn’t have any flow...
@@AshS85 AHAHAHA... You either assumed I meant its not going to pull in air, with the windows all closed or I just didn't explain it right. I should have said...when you have multiple windows open, there is much less draw.. sometimes you don't feel anything. But with Only One window, you feel much more. Law of physics.
Bahahaha I love y’all comments! They could redesign the big whole house fan set up too! Keep the louver in the ceiling & put flex duct in between! Mount the big fan up higher! May cut down on some noise too. They jus move way more air! And when you move serious air your usually gonna hear!? Lol who cares when your ac quit wrkg & you were burning up before! Buy a whole house for big emergency… and a quiet cool for less noise & cooler nights! Options are always great lol! Because AC’s are killing your wallet!🤘🏼👍🏽✌️🙌🏽👋🏼
I thourouly enjoyed this information on traditional vs quietcool whole house fans. I have a traditional 30 inch for 43 years. It's the king of moving air in our 2100 sf home not including basement. The noise is very comfortable, raised 5 children and zero complaints. We do not have or want a/c. It's not belt driven with 3 heavy blades. Last year it squealed a little. This year in August it was stopped and buzzing early am. I almost panicked because this is absolutely major to cooling our home and it very difficult to change. I oiled it with my favorite Prolong super lubricants metal treatment, problem solved. After extensive research I installed quietcool ES6000. I originally ordered es7000 but it was back ordered so I didn't wait. I know bigger is efficiently better at slower speeds. I properly & thourouly installed ES6000 in 5 days under difficult access. It does have the initial air blast because I have years of the 30" army king to compare it to, it's not a fair comparison. I am extremely happy with the quietcool innovative design and amperage efficiency. The weather has cooled off so I don't know the cooling performance until next summer, I'm sure we'll love it. I like the rf 3 speeds & timer. extremely quiet on low. I would recommend the es7000 for over 2000sf but I wasn't patient. Silly me. I'll comment again in 43 years for a fair comparison. I left the king installed and ready just incase quietcool would stop. God bless in JESUS name. Tim ✝️
Unless you live in cooler climates that are less humid as many have pointed out already, your sucking in dust and dirt not to mention smog if near traffic whenever it’s on. Want to keep a house cool have your a/c well maintained with at least a 20 degree differential, button up all doors and windows/make sure there are no air leaks, ALWAYS keep all your vents open, even if a bedroom door is closed, and finally rid your attic of 120 degree heat with crow flow multiple gable fans with high cam!
Thank you, good video! I was thinking of getting a QuietCool fan, but will gladly deal with a little more noise for much better airflow with a more traditional system
I recently moved to Georgia from Chicago we love to have our windows open up and let the air come in the problem I have is finding someone to install one
I have the Quiet Cool Trident model. It works great in our house! I feel the key is having enough vents in the attic and roof so all the hot air can escape properly. Good video, nice comparisons. And I have 28 / 345 watt Sun Power solar panels on my roof. I like not running my a/c when I can run my whole house fan instead.
@@rsstnnr76 Good question. I had my electrician install my unit. My house is not that old, and I have large vents all around my house. But, to give you an accurate number of vents, I can't give you an exact number. Sorry
@@daddykiller5835 my house is a spanish-style stucco house. There aren't really large vents on the outside walls. But I know there's lots of vents in the ceiling.
I've always had a whole house fan sinec the house was built in 1983. The motor is a General Electric with copper windings, and real ball bearings. It sits in a frame on the second floor hallway ceiling. It is a little loud, but we're used to it, and it does a wonderful job of cooling by bringing in outside cooler air, and sucking the warmer air into the attic. We have proper continuous soffit vents, and continuous ridge vent. Our motor does have a capacitor, but it is not a belt driven motor which I would think could add a squickiness when it's on, and seems like it could be louder. But why is it belt driven? THUMBS UP!!!
Electric motors "vibrate" and are usually mounted with rubber pads. The direct drive designs are going to be the loudest as the fan blade mounts directly to the motor shaft and the vibrations from the motor transfer to the metal blade and frame of the unit at higher rates. A belt drive place the motor away from the blades which doesn't allow the motor vibrations to transfer to the blade and frame as much due to the belt is a huge insulator from the motor. Good idea to have a spare Capacitor in stock for the day it fails however, your 1983 vintage hardware was made to be reliable and may not have any issue. Being 40 years later, a spare capacitor would be a fair option if it fails when its summer time. Just be sure to get the exact MFD rating type that's there already and get one made in the USA by MARS or AMRAD as the Chinese brands can fail in just a few months.
Love that you’re in Sacramento. Us too. We had a 36” belt drive fan installed 17 years ago and it still runs like new. I feel the only info you left out of your video is about the noise a WHF makes. A lot of people get really caught up on the noise rating. I couldn’t agree more about noise with most appliances but the noise a WHF makes is white noise and we absolutely love it. The noise covers up the sounds our teenagers and TV make when we are trying to sleep. We actually get better sleep when the WHF is running because of this. If you are looking at getting a fan and you are really worried about the noise do yourself a favor and try to get a demo. There is a good chance the noise will not be a negative and you might even like it.
I have a traditional older Whole House Fan. I installed it and used an electrical circuit I set up to run canned lights in my living room too. I also added 3 vents that vent through the roof in the back of the house that can be opened and shut during the year. I don't mind that my fan is a bit noisy because it provides a white noise that helps both my wife and I sleep. We frequently run it most of the night. We have a two-story house and I like to leave windows open downstairs at night which can be unsafe. So the main reason for this post is we have an alarm system where for the large Windows downstairs alarms are on the screens, not the windows. If somebody messes with the screen the alarm goes off. We feel safer that way and in fact four different times those screens have been dislodged by a potential burglar and then they left before they could damage my windows. Could never live in a house without a Whole House Fan as we live in the Inland Empire East ofLos Angeles with temperatures in the summer of similar to Sacramento.
I’ve watched a lot of these type of videos and googled a lot and the one question I can’t seem to get answered is about heat loss in the winter. The manufacturers all want to talk about heat coming in from the attic. Heat rises, who cares in the summer. I want to know how much of my heat in the winter will escape and judging from the thin metal dampers it looks to be quite considerable.
I got a quiet air system. Same as this dude. Looking at installing it this weekend. The doors of the duct box are thin metal, but boxed- about 1 inch thick box doors, air filled, so super light, but air is a great insulator.. The insulation, with the doors closed, is R5 rated- the paper work said so. The opening is a 18 inch by 22 inch pocket. Now, I'm not an HVAC guy, but I did measure my attic in winter. it's about 50 to 80 at the dead of *socal winter* months. But- Heat may seep into your attic when it's cold in winter. If it really is a problem and I see im using much more heat next winter, I can just cover the doors up with cloth and a magnet. Just remove before you use the system. Personnally, my gas bill in winter is smaller than my electric bill in summer. Here in SoCal, we barely have cold winters.. maybe dips to 20 for a night- drivers freak out and the freeways shut down for a day... Its April.. and it was 90 today! I'm gonna risk the heat escaping. :)
I just had a Quiet Cool whole house and attic fan installed a couple weeks ago. It's turning cold in Chicago, so I won't know until next year how well it performs, but I'm looking forward to it.
I caught a few things in the video that need to be addressed. When installing the traditional WHF in the video you have a huge beam right over the top it. That is going to cut out more than 40% of the airflow. The second thing is that airflow that you claimed for the traditional whole house fan is incorrect. If you look on the CEC Data base every fan is listed by spec reported by the MFGs and their larger traditional fan that claims 14,500 cfm is only getting 5,000 cfm. They measure their fans performance without the shutter in place. QuietCool is by far the better product and all American made. The number one biggest negative about a traditional whole house fan is that there is no damper in place to prevent all the hot air leaking back into your home. Imagine having a large 36x36 cut out on your ceiling allowing hot air to come right back down in your home at all times. this is why no one really installs traditional whole house fans any more.
You make some good points, but heat coming back in? You installed wrong or vented wrong. Spray foam seals that issue as should be done on all ceiling openings like lights. The other issue could be that you have poor attic ventilation causing positive pressure which will force the attic air back into a house. That's at least thd first two thoughts of possibly why you would have hot air from the attic entering the house.
This was a year ago I assume you have researched and realized this information is incorrect but others may not so for those who are shopping disregard that information ..so biased made me think he sells for the other company but his info so wrong he can’t have any first hand knowledge of whole house fans at all .
The newer ones don't pull as much air so I don't think it's an issue any more. Probably part of the reason the fans are smaller than the old 30"-36" ones.
Remember, from the beginning of this video. An attic fan serves a different purpose than the whole house fan. QC has a nice attic fan that has a 10 speed motor with a built in thermostat and humidistat.
Thanks for the video. I love my whole house fan. Denver nights are almost always cool. New Vent Question... I have an older 36" 1/3 HP Triangle Whole house Fan (12 years?). The company added 8 12" square turtle vents when the fan was installed. Recently, due to a squirrel family moving into the vent I had to cover the vents with steel wire hoods (hate putting screws into the roof). Now I'm getting a new roof. Roofer suggested switching to a ridge cap vent. I have about 30' to play with but I don't think that's an equivalent amount of venting. I found some newer steel turtle vents with louvered sides but they are only rated for 50 sq in NFA. I'm thinking about installing 12 of those. Triangle says 12 sq ft of total venting (I also have two 12x10 gable vents and some soffit venting). Can you make any suggestions for good squirrel proof vents? Or, would the ridge cap vent be sufficient?
Like your video. We had whole house fan belt drive in FL before AC, it keep cool all but the very hottest of day or nights. AC spoiled us. Would try the QC for few cool days and nights just to move air. Need a means to filter the outside air being pulled in would be my remaining thought.
Those "whole house fans" might be better served having more than one fan such as one per bedroom so that each room would be best served with or without exhaust operation individually? This would help deal with a closed bedroom door and one whole house fan in a hallway etc.
So do you wish you went with the traditional style? I'm in the sierra foothills in a two story with the lower level against a hillside 3700 square foot home. The house will be 20 degree difference hotter inside over outside the house at night. I think it would take two big modern style fans to create enough air flow. I do like the idea of one in the MBR. Winters can be cold Thanks
I've had the belt driven in all my homes for the past 25 years. In my first home I installed it in the hallway it was noisy but tolerable. Next house I put it in the garage and that was perfect, couldn't hear it from the bedroom or living room. In that house I had room to install a security screen door between the house and garage because as you know you have to have the door open and when you're sleeping you don't want a stray radio signal to open your garage door at 2 AM. In my current home I did the same thing however there is no room for a security screen to swing on the inside so I disable the garage door opener when using the fan but that is getting old, AND any flies that are in the garage get in the house so I am considering the quiet cool but am concerned about CFM as I am used to the robust old style. My current home is 1000 square ft single story. Cheers.
24” Whole house fan on top of the joists. Now the issue. The Shutter needs 4” of clearance to be flag to the ceiling, but the joists are in the way…suggestions?
I have a old whole house fan that came with our home when we bought it 20years ago. Its direct drive and noisy but doesnt bother us as its mounted in the garage ceiling and we have a screen door on the door to the garage. Its wearing out though and no longer runs at slower speed.
Hard to guess which one I'd prefer, as you didn't mention price. Offhand, I'd guess the Triangle. What is all that distracting clicking and crackling? Fire your sound or camera guy! Good info, but hard to watch due to the noise.
Very informative video. Since the main difference is noise level it would have been nice if you had measured the noise level DB in two houses for us to compare. Warrantee wise I am not sure if it reasonable comparison. The Triangle fans are made in USA and will probably last 20 years. The QC ones are made in china and the system assembled in USA. The cost difference is huge. Triangle is 1/4 the cost for the item and probably half for installation. I would like to go with the Triangle fan but wish you had done a sound level comparison.
I have an issue with a basement being 30 degrees colder than the MBR on the top floor, which gets baked by the sun all day, and a thermostat on the middle floor, not representing either reality :-p Husband works in the basement and freezes all day, and then our room is 80 at night. Would something like this help pull that cold air up from the basement throughout the day if he left windows cracked down there?
Questions I hope you can answer for me; 1. Whole House Fans (WHF) creates negative pressure in the house? 2. WHF causes natural gas exhaust flue from the water heater to flow backward causing a buildup of toxic gas in the area where the water heater is located, and possibly the whole house? 3. WHF will create a downdraft in my chimney into my home? 4. WHF will create a backdraft through my dryer vent, making it harder to dry clothes? 5. WHF will cause my window screens to clog from floating debris in outside air? (example cotton fuzzies from cottonwood trees) 6. WHF will create moisture issues, like mold, musty damp air, from pulling the humid air into the house from the night air? This humidity will cause my A/C to work harder to draw the moisture out of the air when started up later in the day? I hope you can clarify these questions as I would like a WHF, but don't want a load of issues because of it. I reside in the midwest. Thanks
Sounds like a bunch of questions you already know the answers to, as you hit all the most critical issues people have against WHF. With that, I'd suggest not getting one so that you have peace of mind.
Yes Yes, when oversized but it would be exhausted from the home. Yes No Yes Yes, use in low humidity and yes the hvac unit will remove more water from your home.
@@jum5238 - No, I actually like the windows open, seldomly because I live in the Midwest where the weather is humid, even when cooler outside than inside. I was contemplating having a WHF installed, and that is how I found this video. I was doing my research prior to purchasing and then regretting. Thank you for your reply
My attic fan is squeaking. I had a downdraft swamp cooler so I have a cut in the middle of my house. Would your whole house fan be a good idea? It has to go on and off at temperature daily.
I have a master flow 30 inch belt drive whole house fan for about 18 years now, it still runs great and moves a lot of the air. We live in Clovis Ca, basically the middle of California in the San Joaquin Valley. Our summers can get very very hot here and this is where the downfalls of our whole house fan comes in. I have been trying to find some kind of cover for the louvers to stop the heat from the attic going down into the house. I have yet to find a good solution for this yet, homemade or commercially made. This is why we have been considering a quiet cool whole house fan. I have a little bit of trouble spending $1000 on a new Quite Cool whole house fan when I paid $120 for my master flow and got $100 rebate from PG&E. Any suggestions.
I've used 1" ridged insulation board (with foil) cut to the size of the grate opening and ran 1/4 foam door weather strip around the edge to press against the metal grate of the whf. It's held in place with magnets hot glued along the edges. This is in a hallway. I placed two small metal tabs on the wall near the ceiling so when I'm using the whf I have a place to store the cover. It's painted the same color as the hallway so it blends in.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to have a filter located on the inside grill to keep the fan blades from accumulating debris on them? I've got bathroom exhaust fans, the squirrel cage type, that get noisy as they become dirty and likely less efficient my guess. I also recently went to the APP download page and found many complaints about the blue tooth losing its "paring" to smart phones which requires having to go up into the attic to press the "pair" button to re-pair the fan to the phone again. Also, some folks have found that when the app does have an update, it drops the pair mode requiring a trip to the attic again. I'm wondering for those who have attic fans and others types of fans that are located in tough to get areas in the attic might be better served to mount the SmartPanel remotely and near the crawl space. Might be a lot of wiring to do that but at least the pair button wouldn't so difficult to get to or, maybe the SmartPanel should be WiFi connected to avoid the "pairing problem" which Quiet Cool is not alone with these issues.
hey gents, my home came with a house fan installed. the damper vent deals are noisey and i want to replace them with better ones. what should i do? get something at home depot(is that good enough)?
Hello, I would like the best advice on what to install in my home. Some vendors/installers are calling QuietCool a whole house fan, which you explain is different. I want one to pull cool air into the house, hot air into the attic, and probably need additional attic ventilation installed as well. Can you recommend someone who’s reputable, to advise and install in Turlock, CA?
What do you do if you don't have an attic? We have a condo that has vaulted ceilings and not attic but has a full crawl space. Can the QuietCool be put in the crawl space and ducted upstairs? How far can the ducting rung? It would need to go to the second floor. Thx!
I live in Tucson, AZ. I’ve been wanting one of these for years. I don’t have a pinched roof and only a couple small vents in the attic. It’s so small it’s almost impossible to get inside. I do have a old swamp cooler that isn’t used anymore. I was wondering about converting that duct work to be used as a whole house fan and just dumping the air outside. Do you think this could have the same affect? We have nights that drop in the 50’s or 60’s but the inside house temp won’t drop below 75 without help. I want to be able to cycle that cool air at night!
please help! Im 71 years old, live alone, and really not sure what to do at this point. have had a traditional whole house fan for the last 20 +years. Its extremely loud and although it works well, i cant sleep with it on during the night.. I just purchased a quiet cool model 3126. my house is just under 1500 sq. ft. i have an installer scheduled to come out this next week to install it but now after seeing your video, im questioning whether this is the right decision or not for me. are the newer traditiional fans quieter? any suggestions you can give? im desperate. wish you lived closer. Im in antioch
I can't really say the newer ones are quieter at all. They still sound like a chopper in your hallway. Lol. I would however go one more size up on the QC fan. I tell people now to buy a model where the cfm's are three times your square footage. You can always turn it down to low speed. But if you don't buy big enough, there isnt an extra high button. 😊
@@foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696 thank you so much for the quick reply. its so frustrating because I really don't know which one to pick now. I think your recommending going with a larger quiet cool unit..would you say go up one to maybe the 4000 series?
@@foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696 thanks so very much I think it’s the 4100 quiet cool Dang they are expensive Wondering how much work It’s going to be since we have to Make the hold area smaller
How can this make sense in a HOT climate such as desert cities in Arizona? It seems that it would be causing the A/C to work harder. I really would like to know more.
This fan works very well. czcams.com/users/postUgkx7yWIKcrbA9KMHkGSfcgxW2lsjHT6B8Sh I replaced my old fan as our radon levels began to spike. When I remove the old fan water poured out of the fan. Must have entered in through the out spout. Replaced with this unit and levels dropped a bit but still over 4.0.Did some more digging and found that we had a small hole under our waste pipe that was allowing some water and radon in.Patched the hole and the levels dropped almost overnight.I really would recommend the radon sensor. It gives real time readings. Without it we would have never known that we had this issue.
Thank you for your informative and detailed video on WHFs. Our home living space is 2000 SqFt and i am interested in the QC 3.3 model. We live about 10 miles from the ocean and so only in the summer months when our home gets quite hot particularly during the late afternoon/early evening til about 9pm. Our MBR's window faces west and so the burning sun nicely add more heat into our room. Mostly all our family members stay in our respective rooms, not regularly hanging out in the living room, den, dining room, though a bit more traffic in the kitchen of our two-story 1974-built home My question is how beneficial and/or cooler it can be for all the bed rooms, especially our MBR, when the WHF is turned ON and all our bed room doors are CLOSED? If the WHF is placed on the 2nd floor hallway outside all the upstairs rooms and IMPORTANTLY sucks the hot air from all the rooms with doors closed effectively given that the windows are OPEN in our rooms? This last question is KEY because if it's not effective, then WHF may not be suitable for us. Thank you. Your expertise is great appreciated.
You won't like the results with the doors closed, unless you were to create some sort of vent to allow the air to pass through the door. can be done a few ways. cut a vent into the door or above the door. cut the bottom of the door a couple inches from the ground. cut in jumper ducts or external equilizers from the room to the hallway. whatever you decide to do. you'll need to create a better avenue to get that air from the window to the room into the hallway and into the WHF. Not always, but in this case, airflow will take the path of least resistance. ultimately you don't want to have no windows open or else you could start sucking attic air through the light switch and outlet plates in the walls via the too.plates in the attic. good luck.
@@foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696 Thanks. I've never used a fan like this before. Does it make a noticeable difference? Also, how do you know if the attic has enough ventilation?
@@rsstnnr76 - whole house fans work great if you live in an area where it cools below 80 deg F at night. I installed mine 28 years ago. It saved me thousand$$ in AC electric bills. He says in video how much ventilation you need. Vents are important.
10 years for the original classic and energy saver design. But I assure you 15 for the Trident Pro and the Stealth Pro models which are ones we install as a contractor. But thanks for brining up the point about the 10 yr on the lower models. I didn't know that.
To bad they are not manufacturer authorized QuietCool dealers. For a authorized dealer go to quietcoolsystems.com/where-to-buy-whole-house-fans/find-dealer/
Hey! Thanks for watching! Now, leave a comment below to let me know your thoughts. Thanks so much as always for your support!
Just watched Quiet Cool vs Traditional whole house fans vid and glad I did. Also will most likely be calling Fox Family HVAC for maintenance plan as they appear to be honest and I’ve been hoping to find an HVAC outfit with good old fashioned integrity and customer service.
I installed a WHF about 20 years ago and it's been running fine for that entire time. I bought it at Home Depot and had a contractor install the hardware while I did the electrical hook up. I also installed a Power Twist belt which made the entire unit quieter and put less stress on the pulleys/shafts of the fan. Using a Smart Switch from Leviton I can not only set the run time but also schedule a start/stop time. If I had to install one today, I would use this type of fan over any other.
We installed a 36" "Grainger" (don't know manufacturer, I imagine it's relabeled) in '83. It has 5 blades w belt drive, sealed bearings. cools off the house at night, and quickly clears smoke from the kitchen when someone vacates vigilance while cooking. No repair or maintenance needed for past 37 years. We're located in Sierra Foothills in Meadow Vista, although, the lows aren't very low...last night 70, in July, we had a string of mid-80 lows (a/c all night).
*Well-made, delivered quickly, and easy to install with **Fastly.Cool** . I may be imagining it, but it seems quieter than the 14 year-old unit that I pulled out. Of course it was noisy at the end due to failed bearings, so hard to compare. :)*
Possibly one of the best informative post on whole house fans & the new type! Thanks for the specs!!!! I knew the old whole house fans moved tons of air!!!! Noise is always an issue with most people! The ECM/ICM motors are nice but they go bad just like other motors!? (Modules go bad etc)! I’ve done HVAC 20 plus years. I like simple over complex any day(more reliable & cost less!)!
If u have a house over 1400-2000 square feet…. U gotta pull some air to make a difference!
I’m not buying a 200 CFM model unit… please! Give me 2000 CFM or more!
Your whole house ole school fans are moving serious air!!!! I LOVE WHAT IM SEEING & HEARING ABOUT THEM!👍🏽🤙🏻🙌🏽👌🤘🏼👋🏼
We have the Quiet cool unit. Midsized unit. It is quiet and fairly strong for our 2,story house. I would have upsized a bit but it is still nice and efficient . Need to hook up my clamp meter and get an amp reading. It was a diy job on a multi hour timer switch . Great explanations and sounds like a great company. Good job 👍
We live in El Dorado Hills and have a QC Stealth ProX 7.0. Our house is 3,700 sq ft. It does a great job at cooling the house and attic in a reasonable amount of time. We recently put in a second, garage attic fan which helps cool the attic above our garage. The garage attic joins our house attic so this second fan helps the house one work more efficiently.
awesome, thanks for the input. They really are nice
I lived in a home in northern NJ for 30 years. It had a huge 8200 CFM fan mounted on the gable wall in the walk up attic. Mechanical clock timer in a closet on the first floor. Worked great for decades. It was my in-laws house so I knew it was at least 20 years old when we moved in in 1990. The motor burned out around 2000 so I just put in a new one. I investigated getting the old one rewound but my local motor guy sold me a brand new one for the same price, I think because I had a good relationship with him and he was very busy at the time. The new motor ran exactly like the old one. While you could hear that 40" blade turning downstairs, it was not obnoxious. When I sold the house last year it was still working perfectly. If your bed was under a window you needed a blanket with this thing!
Good info! Thanks
Motors these days are crap unless the brand is Dayton, Leeson, Baldor and just a couple other brand names. Any of these good motors are going to start in the $300 and up cost but they will run like the old run of the mill motors made 50 to 60 years ago. Just any motor brand these days is a crap shoot. Most old motors simple need new ball bearings, new brushes and other minor items. The rotor and stators rarely burn out.
@@Garth2011 my juicer has a Baldor motor. When the manufacturer was in business, the juicer carried a 12-year warranty.
@@HotVoodooWitch Now thats a rare find ! What brand is that juicer?
@@Garth2011 Norwalk. I've had mine for years. They were, without question, the best juicers on the planet. You can watch some of the old videos here on CZcams. After several generations, younger family members took it over and ran it into the ground. They literally vaporized after ~100 years in business.
These fans work well in dry climates where 70F and dry, not so well when its 70 degrees and humid outside in the evenings. By the way, I live in San Diego CA and absolutely love our Whole House Fan all year long. It would not be practical at our South Texas property in the summer time except in Fall when the humidity drops.
I live in Iowa, we have humidity in the mid-60s to 100% almost all summer long. Humidity, it's what make the tall corn grow ;)
Quiet Cool's only downside is lower airflow, being in the Sacramento area, that is a pretty minor downside. The warranty definately gives them a huge bonus. Having seen and installed both products, I personally lean Quiet Cool. Easier/flexible install, more affordable, and a higher quality motor with great warranty. Ultimately, I wont tell a customer no if they want the other brand, but I'm pushing QC all the way!
Good stuff!
I respect your comment and have a question. I just moved into this house in Los Angeles, CA and it has "blown-in" insulation which I'm not a fan of. I want a Quiet Cool whole house fan. My question is will the fall blow the insulation all around and make even a bigger mess? Thank you
@@aevoss if it is installed properly, it should not blow the insulation all over the place. QC fans are strapped up by the roof trusses, so im general would blow over the attic insulation.
There are articles about how much air is really needed to lower the temps and be comfortable. Lots of folks will compare air movement by the amount of wind that is generated vs the amount of volume that is "moved". RPM is not necessarily the main goal as is a large fan blade turning at the right speed to move air volumes to satisfy conditions.
I've had a whole house fan since the 70's. When set to high it's loud but it moves a bunch of air. Besides the noise the only other downside is the dust. Since it's bringing in tons of outside air it's also bringing in the outside dust in the air. I live in SoCal so it saves us a ton of money. I cool down the house at night and morning and close it up and the AC doesn't come on till usually around 2 or 3 depending on what the coolest temp was at night. If it gets down to 60 and the highest daytime temp is 95 then I never turn on my AC. It amazes me that most people don't know what a whole house fan is.
I'm looking at buying a place where it's around 100° outside. I saw this huge louvered thing in the ceiling and said, "what the hell is that?" My realtor explained it to me and i was still mystified. Thanks for educating me on this, and because i'm like the rest of us and don't want to spend my hard earned money on utility bills, the WHF is going to be running!
I’m an HVAC guy from Canada. The first thing I thought about is down drafting a HWT or an old draft furnace. Maybe mention that the windows must be open first before you start the fan. Im guessing you guy have a lot of electric HWT. I have been interested in getting one of these because we do get hot days but where I live it cools down at night 59 F. I really like your videos too.
So I went with the Stealth Model 3.3x. The noise level on high is kinda like a low hum, its a bit like our Hvac unit. The low is much less, but still noticeable. A few factors- We live in a 1300Sq.ft single story home. The attic space is TINY, only goes down the middle of our house...its more like a CRAWL space. That model was recommend for the size of our house...but as far as PULLING IN air...its very little happening there. Now with that said, if we open ONE window in the back room...then a good amount of air is being pulled in. I basically should have watched this video before I bought. I would have gone with the One model above the recommended. the Stealth 4.8x.
Huh? You need to have a window open for drawing in air. We open our back slider door and our fan is in the attic on the second floor...of course you need to open a window or door, otherwise you wouldn’t have any flow...
@@AshS85 AHAHAHA... You either assumed I meant its not going to pull in air, with the windows all closed or I just didn't explain it right. I should have said...when you have multiple windows open, there is much less draw.. sometimes you don't feel anything. But with Only One window, you feel much more. Law of physics.
Bahahaha I love y’all comments!
They could redesign the big whole house fan set up too!
Keep the louver in the ceiling & put flex duct in between! Mount the big fan up higher! May cut down on some noise too. They jus move way more air! And when you move serious air your usually gonna hear!? Lol who cares when your ac quit wrkg & you were burning up before!
Buy a whole house for big emergency… and a quiet cool for less noise & cooler nights! Options are always great lol!
Because AC’s are killing your wallet!🤘🏼👍🏽✌️🙌🏽👋🏼
I thourouly enjoyed this information on traditional vs quietcool whole house fans. I have a traditional 30 inch for 43 years. It's the king of moving air in our 2100 sf home not including basement. The noise is very comfortable, raised 5 children and zero complaints. We do not have or want a/c. It's not belt driven with 3 heavy blades. Last year it squealed a little. This year in August it was stopped and buzzing early am. I almost panicked because this is absolutely major to cooling our home and it very difficult to change. I oiled it with my favorite Prolong super lubricants metal treatment, problem solved. After extensive research I installed quietcool ES6000. I originally ordered es7000 but it was back ordered so I didn't wait. I know bigger is efficiently better at slower speeds. I properly & thourouly installed ES6000 in 5 days under difficult access. It does have the initial air blast because I have years of the 30" army king to compare it to, it's not a fair comparison. I am extremely happy with the quietcool innovative design and amperage efficiency. The weather has cooled off so I don't know the cooling performance until next summer, I'm sure we'll love it. I like the rf 3 speeds & timer. extremely quiet on low. I would recommend the es7000 for over 2000sf but I wasn't patient. Silly me. I'll comment again in 43 years for a fair comparison. I left the king installed and ready just incase quietcool would stop. God bless in JESUS name. Tim ✝️
Unless you live in cooler climates that are less humid as many have pointed out already, your sucking in dust and dirt not to mention smog if near traffic whenever it’s on. Want to keep a house cool have your a/c well maintained with at least a 20 degree differential, button up all doors and windows/make sure there are no air leaks, ALWAYS keep all your vents open, even if a bedroom door is closed, and finally rid your attic of 120 degree heat with crow flow multiple gable fans with high cam!
Thank you, good video! I was thinking of getting a QuietCool fan, but will gladly deal with a little more noise for much better airflow with a more traditional system
Appreciate the video. I regretfully purchased the "right" fan which does not seem to move air near as well as I had expected.
I recently moved to Georgia from Chicago we love to have our windows open up and let the air come in the problem I have is finding someone to install one
I have had whole houses fan twice before and I don’t like how it sucks the dust from outside to inside the home
I have the Quiet Cool Trident model. It works great in our house! I feel the key is having enough vents in the attic and roof so all the hot air can escape properly. Good video, nice comparisons. And I have 28 / 345 watt Sun Power solar panels on my roof. I like not running my a/c when I can run my whole house fan instead.
How do you know if there's enough attic ventilation?
@@rsstnnr76 Good question. I had my electrician install my unit. My house is not that old, and I have large vents all around my house. But, to give you an accurate number of vents, I can't give you an exact number. Sorry
@@daddykiller5835 my house is a spanish-style stucco house. There aren't really large vents on the outside walls. But I know there's lots of vents in the ceiling.
@@rsstnnr76 I guess when your ready to install, give Quiet Cool a call. I'm sure they can help you. Good luck.
I've always had a whole house fan sinec the house was built in 1983. The motor is a General Electric with copper windings, and real ball bearings. It sits in a frame on the second floor hallway ceiling. It is a little loud, but we're used to it, and it does a wonderful job of cooling by bringing in outside cooler air, and sucking the warmer air into the attic. We have proper continuous soffit vents, and continuous ridge vent. Our motor does have a capacitor, but it is not a belt driven motor which I would think could add a squickiness when it's on, and seems like it could be louder. But why is it belt driven? THUMBS UP!!!
Electric motors "vibrate" and are usually mounted with rubber pads. The direct drive designs are going to be the loudest as the fan blade mounts directly to the motor shaft and the vibrations from the motor transfer to the metal blade and frame of the unit at higher rates. A belt drive place the motor away from the blades which doesn't allow the motor vibrations to transfer to the blade and frame as much due to the belt is a huge insulator from the motor.
Good idea to have a spare Capacitor in stock for the day it fails however, your 1983 vintage hardware was made to be reliable and may not have any issue. Being 40 years later, a spare capacitor would be a fair option if it fails when its summer time. Just be sure to get the exact MFD rating type that's there already and get one made in the USA by MARS or AMRAD as the Chinese brands can fail in just a few months.
Love that you’re in Sacramento. Us too. We had a 36” belt drive fan installed 17 years ago and it still runs like new. I feel the only info you left out of your video is about the noise a WHF makes. A lot of people get really caught up on the noise rating. I couldn’t agree more about noise with most appliances but the noise a WHF makes is white noise and we absolutely love it. The noise covers up the sounds our teenagers and TV make when we are trying to sleep. We actually get better sleep when the WHF is running because of this. If you are looking at getting a fan and you are really worried about the noise do yourself a favor and try to get a demo. There is a good chance the noise will not be a negative and you might even like it.
Put a big fan in your hallway. Probably about the same loudness.
I have a traditional older Whole House Fan. I installed it and used an electrical circuit I set up to run canned lights in my living room too. I also added 3 vents that vent through the roof in the back of the house that can be opened and shut during the year. I don't mind that my fan is a bit noisy because it provides a white noise that helps both my wife and I sleep. We frequently run it most of the night. We have a two-story house and I like to leave windows open downstairs at night which can be unsafe. So the main reason for this post is we have an alarm system where for the large Windows downstairs alarms are on the screens, not the windows. If somebody messes with the screen the alarm goes off. We feel safer that way and in fact four different times those screens have been dislodged by a potential burglar and then they left before they could damage my windows. Could never live in a house without a Whole House Fan as we live in the Inland Empire East ofLos Angeles with temperatures in the summer of similar to Sacramento.
I’ve watched a lot of these type of videos and googled a lot and the one question I can’t seem to get answered is about heat loss in the winter. The manufacturers all want to talk about heat coming in from the attic. Heat rises, who cares in the summer. I want to know how much of my heat in the winter will escape and judging from the thin metal dampers it looks to be quite considerable.
Oh go hide in the heater closet!!!
I got a quiet air system. Same as this dude. Looking at installing it this weekend. The doors of the duct box are thin metal, but boxed- about 1 inch thick box doors, air filled, so super light, but air is a great insulator.. The insulation, with the doors closed, is R5 rated- the paper work said so. The opening is a 18 inch by 22 inch pocket. Now, I'm not an HVAC guy, but I did measure my attic in winter. it's about 50 to 80 at the dead of *socal winter* months. But- Heat may seep into your attic when it's cold in winter. If it really is a problem and I see im using much more heat next winter, I can just cover the doors up with cloth and a magnet. Just remove before you use the system.
Personnally, my gas bill in winter is smaller than my electric bill in summer. Here in SoCal, we barely have cold winters.. maybe dips to 20 for a night- drivers freak out and the freeways shut down for a day... Its April.. and it was 90 today! I'm gonna risk the heat escaping. :)
Great video
I just had a Quiet Cool whole house and attic fan installed a couple weeks ago. It's turning cold in Chicago, so I won't know until next year how well it performs, but I'm looking forward to it.
brrrrr
Any updates? How's it working out for you?
I caught a few things in the video that need to be addressed. When installing the traditional WHF in the video you have a huge beam right over the top it. That is going to cut out more than 40% of the airflow. The second thing is that airflow that you claimed for the traditional whole house fan is incorrect. If you look on the CEC Data base every fan is listed by spec reported by the MFGs and their larger traditional fan that claims 14,500 cfm is only getting 5,000 cfm. They measure their fans performance without the shutter in place. QuietCool is by far the better product and all American made. The number one biggest negative about a traditional whole house fan is that there is no damper in place to prevent all the hot air leaking back into your home. Imagine having a large 36x36 cut out on your ceiling allowing hot air to come right back down in your home at all times. this is why no one really installs traditional whole house fans any more.
You make some good points, but heat coming back in? You installed wrong or vented wrong. Spray foam seals that issue as should be done on all ceiling openings like lights. The other issue could be that you have poor attic ventilation causing positive pressure which will force the attic air back into a house. That's at least thd first two thoughts of possibly why you would have hot air from the attic entering the house.
This was a year ago I assume you have researched and realized this information is incorrect but others may not so for those who are shopping disregard that information ..so biased made me think he sells for the other company but his info so wrong he can’t have any first hand knowledge of whole house fans at all .
Wow that’s nice very informal I got a HVAC job finally it’s mainly commercial but im just excited to be working there
Very cool. Enjoy it man!
How much dust and dirt do these fans suck into the house? With the older ones it was the # 1 complaint when I asked about them.
The newer ones don't pull as much air so I don't think it's an issue any more. Probably part of the reason the fans are smaller than the old 30"-36" ones.
Remember, from the beginning of this video. An attic fan serves a different purpose than the whole house fan. QC has a nice attic fan that has a 10 speed motor with a built in thermostat and humidistat.
Thanks for the video. I love my whole house fan. Denver nights are almost always cool.
New Vent Question...
I have an older 36" 1/3 HP Triangle Whole house Fan (12 years?). The company added 8 12" square turtle vents when the fan was installed. Recently, due to a squirrel family moving into the vent I had to cover the vents with steel wire hoods (hate putting screws into the roof).
Now I'm getting a new roof. Roofer suggested switching to a ridge cap vent. I have about 30' to play with but I don't think that's an equivalent amount of venting. I found some newer steel turtle vents with louvered sides but they are only rated for 50 sq in NFA. I'm thinking about installing 12 of those. Triangle says 12 sq ft of total venting (I also have two 12x10 gable vents and some soffit venting). Can you make any suggestions for good squirrel proof vents? Or, would the ridge cap vent be sufficient?
Like your video. We had whole house fan belt drive in FL before AC, it keep cool all but the very hottest of day or nights. AC spoiled us. Would try the QC for few cool days and nights just to move air. Need a means to filter the outside air being pulled in would be my remaining thought.
Those "whole house fans" might be better served having more than one fan such as one per bedroom so that each room would be best served with or without exhaust operation individually? This would help deal with a closed bedroom door and one whole house fan in a hallway etc.
So do you wish you went with the traditional style? I'm in the sierra foothills in a two story with the lower level against a hillside 3700 square foot home. The house will be 20 degree difference hotter inside over outside the house at night. I think it would take two big modern style fans to create enough air flow. I do like the idea of one in the MBR.
Winters can be cold
Thanks
I've had the belt driven in all my homes for the past 25 years. In my first home I installed it in the hallway it was noisy but tolerable. Next house I put it in the garage and that was perfect, couldn't hear it from the bedroom or living room. In that house I had room to install a security screen door between the house and garage because as you know you have to have the door open and when you're sleeping you don't want a stray radio signal to open your garage door at 2 AM. In my current home I did the same thing however there is no room for a security screen to swing on the inside so I disable the garage door opener when using the fan but that is getting old, AND any flies that are in the garage get in the house so I am considering the quiet cool but am concerned about CFM as I am used to the robust old style. My current home is 1000 square ft single story. Cheers.
get a 4.8 and you should be happy!
24” Whole house fan on top of the joists. Now the issue. The Shutter needs 4” of clearance to be flag to the ceiling, but the joists are in the way…suggestions?
Great Video. Thanks.
I have a old whole house fan that came with our home when we bought it 20years ago. Its direct drive and noisy but doesnt bother us as its mounted in the garage ceiling and we have a screen door on the door to the garage. Its wearing out though and no longer runs at slower speed.
Hard to guess which one I'd prefer, as you didn't mention price. Offhand, I'd guess the Triangle.
What is all that distracting clicking and crackling? Fire your sound or camera guy!
Good info, but hard to watch due to the noise.
Lol.
Very informative video. Since the main difference is noise level it would have been nice if you had measured the noise level DB in two houses for us to compare. Warrantee wise I am not sure if it reasonable comparison. The Triangle fans are made in USA and will probably last 20 years. The QC ones are made in china and the system assembled in USA. The cost difference is huge. Triangle is 1/4 the cost for the item and probably half for installation. I would like to go with the Triangle fan but wish you had done a sound level comparison.
I have an issue with a basement being 30 degrees colder than the MBR on the top floor, which gets baked by the sun all day, and a thermostat on the middle floor, not representing either reality :-p Husband works in the basement and freezes all day, and then our room is 80 at night. Would something like this help pull that cold air up from the basement throughout the day if he left windows cracked down there?
This is exactly what you need.
Questions I hope you can answer for me;
1. Whole House Fans (WHF) creates negative pressure in the house?
2. WHF causes natural gas exhaust flue from the water heater to flow backward causing a buildup of toxic gas in the area where the water heater is located, and possibly the whole house?
3. WHF will create a downdraft in my chimney into my home?
4. WHF will create a backdraft through my dryer vent, making it harder to dry clothes?
5. WHF will cause my window screens to clog from floating debris in outside air? (example cotton fuzzies from cottonwood trees)
6. WHF will create moisture issues, like mold, musty damp air, from pulling the humid air into the house from the night air? This humidity will cause my A/C to work harder to draw the moisture out of the air when started up later in the day?
I hope you can clarify these questions as I would like a WHF, but don't want a load of issues because of it. I reside in the midwest.
Thanks
Sounds like a bunch of questions you already know the answers to, as you hit all the most critical issues people have against WHF. With that, I'd suggest not getting one so that you have peace of mind.
These are not for humid areas period
Yes
Yes, when oversized but it would be exhausted from the home.
Yes
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Yes
Yes, use in low humidity and yes the hvac unit will remove more water from your home.
@@jum5238 - No, I actually like the windows open, seldomly because I live in the Midwest where the weather is humid, even when cooler outside than inside. I was contemplating having a WHF installed, and that is how I found this video. I was doing my research prior to purchasing and then regretting. Thank you for your reply
Not if you open a couple of windows which is the entire reason for having a WHF.
Thanks for an informative video
My attic fan is squeaking. I had a downdraft swamp cooler so I have a cut in the middle of my house. Would your whole house fan be a good idea? It has to go on and off at temperature daily.
I have a master flow 30 inch belt drive whole house fan for about 18 years now, it still runs great and moves a lot of the air. We live in Clovis Ca, basically the middle of California in the San Joaquin Valley. Our summers can get very very hot here and this is where the downfalls of our whole house fan comes in. I have been trying to find some kind of cover for the louvers to stop the heat from the attic going down into the house. I have yet to find a good solution for this yet, homemade or commercially made. This is why we have been considering a quiet cool whole house fan. I have a little bit of trouble spending $1000 on a new Quite Cool whole house fan when I paid $120 for my master flow and got $100 rebate from PG&E. Any suggestions.
I've used 1" ridged insulation board (with foil) cut to the size of the grate opening and ran 1/4 foam door weather strip around the edge to press against the metal grate of the whf. It's held in place with magnets hot glued along the edges. This is in a hallway. I placed two small metal tabs on the wall near the ceiling so when I'm using the whf I have a place to store the cover. It's painted the same color as the hallway so it blends in.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to have a filter located on the inside grill to keep the fan blades from accumulating debris on them? I've got bathroom exhaust fans, the squirrel cage type, that get noisy as they become dirty and likely less efficient my guess.
I also recently went to the APP download page and found many complaints about the blue tooth losing its "paring" to smart phones which requires having to go up into the attic to press the "pair" button to re-pair the fan to the phone again. Also, some folks have found that when the app does have an update, it drops the pair mode requiring a trip to the attic again. I'm wondering for those who have attic fans and others types of fans that are located in tough to get areas in the attic might be better served to mount the SmartPanel remotely and near the crawl space. Might be a lot of wiring to do that but at least the pair button wouldn't so difficult to get to or, maybe the SmartPanel should be WiFi connected to avoid the "pairing problem" which Quiet Cool is not alone with these issues.
hey gents, my home came with a house fan installed. the damper vent deals are noisey and i want to replace them with better ones. what should i do? get something at home depot(is that good enough)?
"Probably"...?
Hello, I would like the best advice on what to install in my home. Some vendors/installers are calling QuietCool a whole house fan, which you explain is different. I want one to pull cool air into the house, hot air into the attic, and probably need additional attic ventilation installed as well.
Can you recommend someone who’s reputable, to advise and install in Turlock, CA?
Why don't QC fans use the existing ducting and cold air return vent especially since the furnace won't be on?
What do you do if you don't have an attic? We have a condo that has vaulted ceilings and not attic but has a full crawl space. Can the QuietCool be put in the crawl space and ducted upstairs? How far can the ducting rung? It would need to go to the second floor. Thx!
I live in Tucson, AZ. I’ve been wanting one of these for years. I don’t have a pinched roof and only a couple small vents in the attic. It’s so small it’s almost impossible to get inside. I do have a old swamp cooler that isn’t used anymore. I was wondering about converting that duct work to be used as a whole house fan and just dumping the air outside. Do you think this could have the same affect? We have nights that drop in the 50’s or 60’s but the inside house temp won’t drop below 75 without help. I want to be able to cycle that cool air at night!
These fans are great in dry climates, not so great when its humid in the evening.
please help! Im 71 years old, live alone, and really not sure what to do at this point. have had a traditional whole house fan for the last 20 +years. Its extremely loud and although it works well, i cant sleep with it on during the night.. I just purchased a quiet cool model 3126. my house is just under 1500 sq. ft. i have an installer scheduled to come out this next week to install it but now after seeing your video, im questioning whether this is the right decision or not for me. are the newer traditiional fans quieter? any suggestions you can give? im desperate. wish you lived closer. Im in antioch
I can't really say the newer ones are quieter at all. They still sound like a chopper in your hallway. Lol. I would however go one more size up on the QC fan. I tell people now to buy a model where the cfm's are three times your square footage. You can always turn it down to low speed. But if you don't buy big enough, there isnt an extra high button. 😊
@@foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696 thank you so much for the quick reply. its so frustrating because I really don't know which one to pick now. I think your recommending going with a larger quiet cool unit..would you say go up one to maybe the 4000 series?
@@sharonouka7642 yes I would.
@@foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696 thanks so very much I think it’s the 4100 quiet cool Dang they are expensive Wondering how much work
It’s going to be since we have to
Make the hold area smaller
Can you mount the traditional fan vertically.
How can this make sense in a HOT climate such as desert cities in Arizona? It seems that it would be causing the A/C to work harder. I really would like to know more.
It only works in places that cool down in the evening/night this is perfect for San Diego because even on hot days it usually cools down at night
Who is bumping against the mic
So do you feel the belt driven style is a better bang for your buck?
I really do!
What about Houston TX?
What do you charge to install a quite cool?
Thank you so much for sharing your experience, it helps very much!.
thank you for watching!
I had one in my first house, nice to open doors and few windows and just let breeze flow.
So informative.
Can I get a quick quote from you please?
Awesome and informative video. Any company you can reccomend near the Los Angeles area ?? In more near Long Beach area! Thanks!
Epx group based out of riverside
Thank you so much that was so helpful and informative.
I came here for the fans
This fan works very well. czcams.com/users/postUgkx7yWIKcrbA9KMHkGSfcgxW2lsjHT6B8Sh I replaced my old fan as our radon levels began to spike. When I remove the old fan water poured out of the fan. Must have entered in through the out spout. Replaced with this unit and levels dropped a bit but still over 4.0.Did some more digging and found that we had a small hole under our waste pipe that was allowing some water and radon in.Patched the hole and the levels dropped almost overnight.I really would recommend the radon sensor. It gives real time readings. Without it we would have never known that we had this issue.
......and you never gave a sound example of either fan system??
I live in 600 sq ft. The attic is in the hallway. What would be the best fan for my place?
You could probably have someone come out and give you a free estimate for that. Then you can get a really good answer to that question 😊
Thank you for your informative and detailed video on WHFs. Our home living space is 2000 SqFt and i am interested in the QC 3.3 model. We live about 10 miles from the ocean and so only in the summer months when our home gets quite hot particularly during the late afternoon/early evening til about 9pm. Our MBR's window faces west and so the burning sun nicely add more heat into our room. Mostly all our family members stay in our respective rooms, not regularly hanging out in the living room, den, dining room, though a bit more traffic in the kitchen of our two-story 1974-built home My question is how beneficial and/or cooler it can be for all the bed rooms, especially our MBR, when the WHF is turned ON and all our bed room doors are CLOSED? If the WHF is placed on the 2nd floor hallway outside all the upstairs rooms and IMPORTANTLY sucks the hot air from all the rooms with doors closed effectively given that the windows are OPEN in our rooms? This last question is KEY because if it's not effective, then WHF may not be suitable for us. Thank you. Your expertise is great appreciated.
You won't like the results with the doors closed, unless you were to create some sort of vent to allow the air to pass through the door. can be done a few ways. cut a vent into the door or above the door. cut the bottom of the door a couple inches from the ground. cut in jumper ducts or external equilizers from the room to the hallway. whatever you decide to do. you'll need to create a better avenue to get that air from the window to the room into the hallway and into the WHF. Not always, but in this case, airflow will take the path of least resistance. ultimately you don't want to have no windows open or else you could start sucking attic air through the light switch and outlet plates in the walls via the too.plates in the attic. good luck.
If I do this myself, with a Quiet Cool fan, can I just plug in the fan and then install a smart plug (like Wemo) to turn it on and off with my phone?
Sure probably. They also have a WiFi switch you can use for your phone now too.
@@foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696 Thanks. I've never used a fan like this before. Does it make a noticeable difference? Also, how do you know if the attic has enough ventilation?
@@rsstnnr76 - whole house fans work great if you live in an area where it cools below 80 deg F at night. I installed mine 28 years ago. It saved me thousand$$ in AC electric bills. He says in video how much ventilation you need. Vents are important.
Do you serve south bay?
No I'm sorry we dont.
I guess there's no solution for a house with dormer bedrooms.
I love my new Whole House Fan but my Family doesn't because they are Haters I Have a Vent Cool Fan
Haha! sound like a good brand to use. I should check them out
Can I get a quote from you?
Where are you located?
Quiet Cool warranty is 10 years NOT 15 years. FYI
10 years for the original classic and energy saver design. But I assure you 15 for the Trident Pro and the Stealth Pro models which are ones we install as a contractor. But thanks for brining up the point about the 10 yr on the lower models. I didn't know that.
quietcoolsystems.com/docs/qcs_installguide_stealth-pro-2021-Updated.pdf
Its 15 years for their attic fans, all of them.
what if someone has solar panels? I recently added a large system
Ridge vent as long as the solar panels don't cover to the peek or you have two more options soffit vent & gable vents
What's with all the noise in your video???? VERY annoying!
To bad they are not manufacturer authorized QuietCool dealers. For a authorized dealer go to quietcoolsystems.com/where-to-buy-whole-house-fans/find-dealer/
I couldn't finish the video but wanted to, whoever is messing the microphone is making this video bad,
Good point. You're right I have fixed this since this video
I love when a guy pulls my hair when do...style😳😳😳😳
Which hair
@@donhgr hahahaha!
Duhh the qiuet cool says so in the name duhh ah doiii