Leafs Playoffs End with Disappointment for 7th Straight Season

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  • čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
  • This really does feel like it is an annual ritual, questioning where it went wrong in the playoffs after a very good regular season.
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  • @MrUndersolo
    @MrUndersolo Před rokem +527

    "The Leafs have a great team on paper. Unfortunately, hockey is played on ice." - Mike Myers

    • @dikbozo
      @dikbozo Před rokem +18

      Proof just how big a leafs fan Myers is.

    • @jaymie-lee
      @jaymie-lee Před rokem +5

      Yep 'fancy stats' ain't so fancy in a loss. Hockey's played on ice not in math or accounting class. It ain't working stop doing the same things and hoping for change. Interesting offseason

    • @pokethebear9359
      @pokethebear9359 Před rokem +1

      I like that

    • @blinkfan87
      @blinkfan87 Před rokem +3

      When did he say this?

    • @theRok29
      @theRok29 Před rokem +14

      The Leafs have a great team on paper, but Florida Man can’t read

  • @christhornycroft3686
    @christhornycroft3686 Před rokem +612

    It’s hard to blame officiating when your 50 goal scorer doesn’t score.

    • @kalaupun
      @kalaupun Před rokem +13

      Except those two issues have nothing to do with one another. I don't see how the lack of production from the superstars means the officiating didn't affect the outcome. If you want to argue the referees were fair then just do that.

    • @LegionOfEclaires
      @LegionOfEclaires Před rokem +134

      @@kalaupun Sometimes calls go your way. Sometimes they don't. If refs are the reason you lose a series, you didn't deserve to win it in the first place.

    • @B0obJunior
      @B0obJunior Před rokem +30

      @@kalaupun Come on, stop evading the fact the Leafs can't live to the simple expectation of giving hope of going all the way.

    • @usmanbarak2615
      @usmanbarak2615 Před rokem +2

      Are you arguing with yourself cause Shannon didn’t mention the officiating.

    • @johnburns9634
      @johnburns9634 Před rokem +13

      @@kalaupun
      Yes. The officiating had an effect on game five.
      But games 1-4 The Leafs didn’t score three goals in regulation.
      They would have won game two with a third goal, and they had two in game three, and just needed one more goal for a win.
      Which would have lessened the non-goal call in game five.
      Leading to a game six or a game seven possible outcome.
      Their lack of early scoring let them down.

  • @whoshotashleybabbitt4924
    @whoshotashleybabbitt4924 Před rokem +370

    “And I remember there were complaints about goaltending…. When they got shut out.”
    Never change, Shannon.

    • @myquest666420
      @myquest666420 Před rokem

      Who did shoot Ashley Babbitt?
      For those who may have forgotten, Ashley is the dangerous sleeper cell domestic terrorist who had spent her entire life using patriotism as a front… just waiting for the day she could single handedly overthrow the government.
      The most dangerous woman possibly to ever exist. Who knows what would’ve happened if she made it through that window? We’d probably all be speaking Babbitlonian, under her tyranny.

    • @HDreamer
      @HDreamer Před rokem

      Saw some of that even with the Rangers loss to the Devils "well Igor wasn't great in games 5 and 7".....ok, but even if, they got shut out in both those games, I don't think Goalie was the issue here.
      Some people like to avoid the real, issues like the plague it seems.

    • @pierresoorden5975
      @pierresoorden5975 Před rokem

      Lmao who shot Ashley Babbitt

    • @HDreamer
      @HDreamer Před rokem

      @The Esquire of Sports ® I was lukewarm on getting Kane to begin with, even at the allegedly "cheap" price they paid. I am so done with taking on other teams stars after their prime. Why can't we have our own outside Goalie and like 1 Defender at a time. Rangers suck at drafting and developing.

  • @hiph0p0p0tamus9
    @hiph0p0p0tamus9 Před rokem +295

    Dubas added as GM in May 2018
    2019: 3 wins
    2020: 2 wins
    2021: 3 wins
    2022: 3 wins
    2023: 5 wins
    Guy delivered the Leafs 16 wins like he said he would, why y'all complaining? 😏

  • @MrMultichris234
    @MrMultichris234 Před rokem +163

    That thumbnail 😂😂😂

    • @its1027
      @its1027 Před rokem +9

      I know right? Perfect

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Před rokem +6

      Feels true, they need Peter Griffin there

    • @rushilb6
      @rushilb6 Před rokem +6

      That thumbnail was foul ☠️☠️☠️☠️

    • @SarahRenz59
      @SarahRenz59 Před rokem +9

      Not only is the thumbnail perfect, it made me realize that Shannon could totally play the lead in You're a Good Man Charlie Brown. 😄

    • @donmarfil9986
      @donmarfil9986 Před rokem +1

      Priceless, most valuable thumbnail 2023.

  • @powwowken2760
    @powwowken2760 Před rokem +259

    I just can't over the fact that in the 5 games against Florida the Leafs never scored more than 2 goals... Their defense got a lot of crap (some of it is extremely justified) but hoping to consistently win games with only 2 goals in the modern NHL is literally asking for the impossible.

    • @gameimprovements4347
      @gameimprovements4347 Před rokem +10

      It's actually been 7 straight games of 2 goals or less

    • @nOmorecontroversy
      @nOmorecontroversy Před rokem +1

      I don't comment much, but this time I have to, this really really hurts to see leafs fail like this...... this got to be the final show for the core 4, you have to change this because if you don't separate them, you have Matthews, Nylander both 1 year left and NTCs are coming, 2 years with JT and Marner, so the next GM have to be responsible and do something!

    • @ThisIsSparta300
      @ThisIsSparta300 Před rokem +2

      Loading cap on 4 players has never won anyone a cup and it’s just a bad recipe. In all honesty I’ve been a Leafs fan my entire life and I love them to death but hockey in the playoffs is won with brute strength and a level of effort and willingness to die for it, and you can’t skill your way there. One on one snap shots aren’t how you win in playoff hockey.
      I will say this is the first year dubas has done an incredible job at the trade deadline and I think we should keep him and let him build this way some more. Keefe should prolly go though lol😅
      We definitely need to retool like Calgary did, but without the same outcome 😂

    • @BrettfordBolts
      @BrettfordBolts Před rokem +1

      it was the refs faults

    • @steveharvey2102
      @steveharvey2102 Před rokem +3

      For this game, series, last few years, since Kerry Fraser, or since 1967?
      Please clarify, if you are being serious.
      Thanks

  • @kevinbudzinski9576
    @kevinbudzinski9576 Před rokem +111

    The thumbnail for this video with Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown is hilarious! 😆

    • @01NeilHD
      @01NeilHD Před rokem +1

      Perfection👌

    • @jessicayoung1190
      @jessicayoung1190 Před rokem +1

      That means Leafs will never win another cup .

    • @mr.brenman2132
      @mr.brenman2132 Před rokem +3

      ​@@cdfmmcc It's Bettman's fault that 7 Canadian franchises can't put together one championship team in 30 years.

    • @archimedes2261
      @archimedes2261 Před rokem +1

      And imagine Peter Griffin hitting Lucy in a Cutway 😄

  • @xjustinian995x6
    @xjustinian995x6 Před rokem +53

    the players were tired they've never played this late into golf season

    • @oceanshrugs9235
      @oceanshrugs9235 Před rokem +7

      All jokes aside, they do have 0 experience on a playoff run and the endurance/durability required. That may be a factor. Playoff hockey takes a toll.

  • @yogibearstie
    @yogibearstie Před rokem +83

    My wife who watches our home team, Ducks, has taken a huge interest in the playoffs this year asked me “who is the best player on the Leafs? I can’t tell“ For instance she started talking about Edmontons Bouchard, yeah I am stunned too, that she picks up on who plays the best. They were invisible. BTW-this hockey interest is entirely due to Zegras. I think she has watched the ally-scoop goal a 1000 times.

    • @shaman9
      @shaman9 Před rokem +7

      she's a keeper :D

    • @BoyNamedSue4
      @BoyNamedSue4 Před rokem

      Z is the man

    • @jyynarpalisenniemi6242
      @jyynarpalisenniemi6242 Před rokem +1

      What’s her thoughts on the mighty Blackhawks getting Bedard 😍

    • @archimedes2261
      @archimedes2261 Před rokem

      ​@The Esquire of Sports ® It's the Truth these Millionaire Leafs need to hear 😄

    • @stevendchu
      @stevendchu Před rokem

      @The Esquire of Sports ® The problem is Nylander has bipolar disorder. You literally do not know which version of him will show up. The guy who refuses to go into corners and is lax on defense assingments? Or the guy who was practically playing for his Leafs career in games 4 and 5 ?
      It's also really weird how scared of being checked Marner is when he literally throws himself at shots on the PK + has been a victim of armed robbery like wtf

  • @castleview3321
    @castleview3321 Před rokem +78

    I've always thought that Tavares was a luxury the Leafs didn't need. Also Matthew Knies probably makes Bunting expendable.

    • @LeagueOfJared
      @LeagueOfJared Před rokem +9

      100%. I'm still laughing at how bad that Tavares signing was

    • @chefboyardeeznutsinyourmouth
      @chefboyardeeznutsinyourmouth Před rokem +7

      It always felt like they just signed him because he's from the area (played for the Gens in the OHL, which is like an hour drive away from Toronto)

    • @pjpredhomme7699
      @pjpredhomme7699 Před rokem +10

      Tavares was a mistake - he is a good guy , that had some skill when he signed the contract , but it was waaaaay too much money for too long at a position that they did not need. and absolutely on Knies . name another team that wins that has an $ 11 million # 2 center and I am being generous calling him a # 2 center today. Nothing against him personally - he is great guy - he is a credit to any team but the money and his fit were never right - Babcock knew it at the time - I think it is why he and Dubas did not see eye to eye

    • @johngreystone
      @johngreystone Před rokem

      KNIES is soft and looks like he is another guy that gets hurt every year. Dump him to Arizona before it’s too late

    • @ThisIsSparta300
      @ThisIsSparta300 Před rokem +3

      @@pjpredhomme7699he literally got us out of the first round 😂 something nobody’s done in a while. If anything dubas contracts with matthews and marner are equally as bad 😅

  • @danieldosso2455
    @danieldosso2455 Před rokem +83

    Leafs won 1 home game the entire post season.
    "We can and we will" - Dubas

    • @Will-fk2dk
      @Will-fk2dk Před rokem +4

      Wait... what?!?
      I didn't even realize...
      Wow. That's just bad. Especially considering the ridiculous amount of talent the Leafs have.
      The Leafs are not my favorite team. I want them to win unless they are playing my favorite team.
      I just want to see them win.

    • @doctorcane
      @doctorcane Před rokem +1

      Laughable GM result. Zito added PM and appears to have constructed what appears to be a solid team built for success long term. we're cap constrained this year, but have some space next year. However our young talent will elevated from the AHL next year and that means we have growth and replacements coming up and thru the system. Really exciting for Florida fans.

    • @SuperStrik9
      @SuperStrik9 Před rokem +1

      1-5 at home. Brutal.

    • @carletonrutherford1799
      @carletonrutherford1799 Před rokem +3

      If I'm not mistaken, they won 1 game in regulation time all playoffs?

    • @ivanpavlov9885
      @ivanpavlov9885 Před rokem +2

      @@carletonrutherford1799, they won two games: game 2 against TBL and game 4 against Panthers (that result is still bad though).

  • @BigYodaBalls
    @BigYodaBalls Před rokem +139

    Can’t wait for them to raise the “First Round Champions” banner in the rafters for the next 20 years

    • @biffdanielson2820
      @biffdanielson2820 Před rokem +3

      Hahahahaha

    • @meanwhileinsooke
      @meanwhileinsooke Před rokem +20

      They have a parade planned so i'm told..

    • @broznar1019
      @broznar1019 Před rokem +5

      i remember seeing Toronto north division champions gear being peddled in the bubble year... participation trophy level cope.

    • @theevilascotcompany9255
      @theevilascotcompany9255 Před rokem +12

      That banner must be raised in a big ceremony at the beginning of next season with Sittler, Clark and Sundin dropping a ceremonial puck made of diamond.

    • @biffdanielson2820
      @biffdanielson2820 Před rokem +2

      @@theevilascotcompany9255 😆

  • @zachboylan6694
    @zachboylan6694 Před rokem +22

    “It’s that time of year again” lmao 😂

  • @EpsilonFilms
    @EpsilonFilms Před rokem +107

    Dubas is an analytics guy, so it's no surprise that he constructed a team that is great on paper. Unfortunately, analytics don't always translate to playoff performance.

    • @SteelCityIceBirds
      @SteelCityIceBirds Před rokem +9

      The money ball of hockey.

    • @kftc1980
      @kftc1980 Před rokem +36

      @@SteelCityIceBirds the key to Moneyball was finding undervalued players and using them appropriately to get disproportionate bang for your buck. I don’t see much of that with this team.

    • @dmonsef
      @dmonsef Před rokem +7

      Analytics don't translate to better in the NHL. It works better for MLB where they have 162 games in a season to utilize it.

    • @SteelCityIceBirds
      @SteelCityIceBirds Před rokem +5

      @@kftc1980 it was more of a comparison to his analytics approach. Thinking that on paper he hits all the needs but in reality it doesn’t work.

    • @Krimbopulous
      @Krimbopulous Před rokem +4

      Dubas has strayed away from that in favor of more and more “grit and sandpaper” each season. It hasn’t helped.
      I wonder if the pressure cooker style situation in Toronto has hindered Dubas just as much of the players themselves.

  • @DarkwaveDave
    @DarkwaveDave Před rokem +192

    Leafs’ Fans: *“WE WANT FLORIDA!”*
    Bobrovsky: _“…and I took that personally”_

    • @Wuwoot9863
      @Wuwoot9863 Před rokem +2

      Half-naked Leafs' Fans*

    • @JustPuckinAround
      @JustPuckinAround Před rokem +8

      I, for one, wanted Boston 😢

    • @345Taco
      @345Taco Před rokem +26

      They also cheered "we want Boston" but of course nobody mentions that

    • @Wuwoot9863
      @Wuwoot9863 Před rokem

      @@flaryy Atleast it would have been game 7 for the memes

    • @345Taco
      @345Taco Před rokem +10

      @@flaryy Maybe but the fact that we only hear "we want Florida" is a biased perspective

  • @mr.orange8205
    @mr.orange8205 Před rokem +46

    Florida made some major changes in the off-season. Took them a while to gell, but it looks like they pulled it all together at the right time.

    • @victorsforza5578
      @victorsforza5578 Před rokem +8

      Swapping out huberdeau for Matt tkachuk. MT is a monster below the dots & in front of the net. Completely different player than JH.

    • @doctorcane
      @doctorcane Před rokem

      @@victorsforza5578 Yeah I loved Jonathan, but he was allergic to the crease.

    • @joonatuominen7844
      @joonatuominen7844 Před rokem +2

      They had to use barkov for the netfront role a bunch which i think is not the best use of his talents, the powerplay is so intresting when you have your center quartebacking it from where many use a defenseman, they dont have to because barkov is so good whit the posession game and doesnt let many short hand rushesh get past him on the pp

    • @doctorcane
      @doctorcane Před rokem

      @@joonatuominen7844 that’s a great observation

  • @sollamander2206
    @sollamander2206 Před rokem +28

    The thing that annoys me about the "But the analytics say" types is that they conveniently omit whenever their team wins against the analytics. The Leafs played pretty well this round but Vasilevskiy's shakiness was a huge part of how they even got to the second round and their analytics were quite underwhelming there.

    • @ju17e
      @ju17e Před rokem

      yeah the bolts weren’t healthy and they still had to lose 3 ot games at home in a single playoffs which is something that will never happen again, they outplayed Toronto all of first round and then Toronto just got pounded after

  • @charleyhorse1864
    @charleyhorse1864 Před rokem +28

    The Leafs. So much talent. So little grit.

  • @EvanEscher
    @EvanEscher Před rokem +100

    Slight correction: their 2021 game 7 home loss to Montreal was 3-1

    • @shanearnold7781
      @shanearnold7781 Před rokem +2

      Came here to say this, continues that bad streak of not scoring in elimination games

    • @by-rc3nl
      @by-rc3nl Před rokem +10

      That day was a day of celebration for all Canadians!

    • @andyboxish4436
      @andyboxish4436 Před rokem +9

      @@by-rc3nl I remember it well, such a happy time

    • @Thisisbailie
      @Thisisbailie Před rokem +7

      Montreal was the only team who had home ice in that series if you can recall them allowing 5000 attendees for the first time in Canafa.

    • @Brandon-ft3vy
      @Brandon-ft3vy Před rokem

      What’s your point? Game 7 was in Toronto

  • @klompsauce
    @klompsauce Před rokem +105

    Wings will get to 14 Cups before Toronto

    • @ExcitedHawksFan
      @ExcitedHawksFan Před rokem +37

      Columbus Blue Jackets will get to 14 cups before Toronto

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Před rokem +11

      The Kraken too

    •  Před rokem +4

      Hard to say because we're terrible in Detroit still behind Toronto

    • @newquinn22
      @newquinn22 Před rokem +1

      Sens are 1 dynasty away from 14

    • @joe.osullivan
      @joe.osullivan Před rokem +2

      Arizona Coyotes will get to 14 cups before Toronto

  • @richardferguson6893
    @richardferguson6893 Před rokem +12

    Shannon woke up this morning and chose violence with that thumbnail😂.

  • @Velanae
    @Velanae Před rokem +14

    I'm waiting for Matthews to post a picture of his childhood Arizona Coyotes bedsheets

    • @SteelCityIceBirds
      @SteelCityIceBirds Před rokem +7

      You’ll have to wait. He’s currently finishing up his second round of golf for the day. The only second round he knows how to finish out.

  • @colliesis
    @colliesis Před rokem +15

    That thumbnail is so mean, but so warranted. Thanks for the laugh, Shannon!

  • @MsSparklesNGlitter
    @MsSparklesNGlitter Před rokem +15

    The Leafs can no longer just think a tweak will solve their problems. This team needs a big change and not just the ones wearing ties/suits but the people on the ice. The reality this team isn't built for the playoffs should have hit them in 2021 when the Habs took them out.

  • @lankancheetah
    @lankancheetah Před rokem +8

    Toronto is in the spot Washington / San Jose were in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Build for regular season but not postseason.

  • @szylak
    @szylak Před rokem +31

    I have been a Leafs fan for 58 years. I have no expectations.

    • @dikbozo
      @dikbozo Před rokem +1

      Habs fan since '65 here. We do live in the same world.

    • @kftc1980
      @kftc1980 Před rokem +3

      That’s actually a great attitude for life in general. Adam Carolla was the first person I ever heard talk about “no expectations.”

    • @vithursan.b
      @vithursan.b Před rokem +2

      ​@@dikbozoat least you witnessed championships

    • @jordancheyne7939
      @jordancheyne7939 Před rokem +1

      @@kftc1980 Another Carolla gem applies to the Leafs "disappointers never disappoint"

    • @scottcampbell5536
      @scottcampbell5536 Před rokem

      56 here.

  • @denvercharlebois699
    @denvercharlebois699 Před rokem +7

    Matthews never shows up in the playoffs when we need him. The guy can leave anytime now.

  • @ZomBiE519_
    @ZomBiE519_ Před rokem +3

    fun fact: The Hockey Guy and Austin Matthews have the same amount of goals scored in the 2nd round of the NHL Playoffs.🤷‍♂🤷‍♂

  • @sandybfox2446
    @sandybfox2446 Před rokem +7

    I became a Leafs supporter in 2004 after watching them hammer Ottawa in round one that year, and I remember a video you made where you explained how you became a Boston supporter - that realisation of Vancouver isn't going to win a Stanley Cup in your lifetime. I now feel that same way about the Leafs and now I've adopted the Colorado Avalanche as my West Con/playoff team. I'm nearly 40 and Toronto have yet to win an NHL championship in that time, Colorado (since the Nordiques relocated) have won 3.
    After looking over the overall play of the Leafs since 2016, two things do stand out: The Leafs seem more interested in turning their "go to" guys Matthews, Marner, Tavares and Nylander into Hockey Hall of Famers rather than Stanley Cup winners. Second, they seem more set on breaking NHL/club regular season records than winning Stanley Cups. Also, at the beginning of this past season when they announced that they got rid of Campbell and brought in Samsonov, and Murray I was thinking "Am I gonna have to get to know these guys? Are they gonna be around long? Has the team just repeated the same mistake they made with Felix Potvin and Curtis Joseph?"
    I'm not gonna be the "armchair analyst" and say I have all the answers, but I'm gonna make three observations:
    1. The Leafs HAVE TO STOP trading their 1st round draft picks. That's how they got Matthews and Reilly.
    2. The Leafs have to stick with a goalie for more than one year. Campbell was very good in the 21-22 season (In my opinion) and pairing him with Samsonov - who does have extensive playoff experience - could've taken on sort of a mentor like role.
    3. Personally, I'd keep Dubas. Getting past the first round IS an improvement. Not much of one, but it is a step in the right direction.
    The curse of Harold Ballard continues on...

    • @carletonrutherford1799
      @carletonrutherford1799 Před rokem

      So let's just start cheering for winners, not stick with our team. Honest to god, fair weather fans are the worst. You pick a team to cheer for just because they are good? Fair weather fans have no credibility whatsoever. I guarantee you, if the Leafs ever actually did win a cup, you would be cheering for them, and disregarding the other teams you cheered for, in 1 second.

  • @scottpressnail543
    @scottpressnail543 Před rokem +8

    The final game against Montreal was not a 4-3 score. That was the series total: 4-3 in games. The final score in Game 7 was 3-1.

  • @johnfast5852
    @johnfast5852 Před rokem +5

    I am amazed how fast Las Vegas and Seattle have put it together.

  • @peterszymanoski8127
    @peterszymanoski8127 Před rokem +96

    They lost game 7 in 2021 3-1 not 4-3

    • @tyemaddog
      @tyemaddog Před rokem +5

      You know what's crazy but true, a lot of youtubers are purposely making mistakes like that, so more people comment.. I think he knows it wasn't a one goal game.

    • @Mr_Donkey
      @Mr_Donkey Před rokem +62

      @@tyemaddog its not that deep dude, he simply got the series score mixed up with the score of game 7

    • @cameronmccormick89
      @cameronmccormick89 Před rokem +14

      Gallagher, Perry, Toffoli ENG, then a late Nylander sympathy goal. Not going to ever forget that.

    • @HT-jj5sx
      @HT-jj5sx Před rokem +3

      Yeah, I think he just wrote down the games (4-3) and then got confused. Also, the goal was with a a pulled goalie too I think right? So the game was kind of a disaster.

    • @ronh2660
      @ronh2660 Před rokem +3

      His CZcams analytics gets a higher score ...and more money, with more comments ...
      Shannon is using analytics to get analytics...Shannon is a genius

  • @philtorrez4198
    @philtorrez4198 Před rokem +3

    “It’s that time of year, yet again” lol

  • @meanwhileinsooke
    @meanwhileinsooke Před rokem +13

    The Leafs are already planning the parade route for next year, $80 million for 3 players??? haha

  • @GdashO
    @GdashO Před rokem +52

    I, like many others, wanted to see the Leafs win a series and genuinely felt happy for Leaf fans when they won. That lasted for the duration of a single commercial break after which "we want Florida" chants were shown. The Leaf fans killed all good will towards them faster than Bud Light. This misery is well deserved.

    • @mattanderson6336
      @mattanderson6336 Před rokem +1

      By the way what is the Bud Lite equivalent in Canada.

    • @dAiMYoBeAr
      @dAiMYoBeAr Před rokem

      @@mattanderson6336 Molson? Labbat Blue?

    • @MetalCharlo
      @MetalCharlo Před rokem +2

      @@mattanderson6336 Bud Lite is

    • @kalaupun
      @kalaupun Před rokem +13

      yes those random few fans chanting should affect how one feels about a larger situation, makes sense

    • @Wuwoot9863
      @Wuwoot9863 Před rokem +8

      I doubt they are real leafs fans to be honest, looked more like a frat party.

  • @mammoet1133
    @mammoet1133 Před rokem +7

    I feel like if Dubas doesn't fire Keefe, Dubas should be fired. If there's complacency or acceptance with this performance then Shanahan, Keefe and Dubas should be done. You've got nearly 50 percent of the cap into 4 players, half of which didn't show up in the 2nd round.

    • @Chester_C.Pingbat
      @Chester_C.Pingbat Před rokem +1

      Good process, but Dubas is largely to blame for the overall country-club, pseudo-competitive thing they have going on. When you don't even bother with head coach interviews (a few worthy of consideration iirc), even for optics sake, you're saying you're looking for insulation before anything else. Players aren't blind to this and it's bound to reproduce.
      Not to mention this being runback 2 or 3.

  • @cobymeyer4157
    @cobymeyer4157 Před rokem +8

    That thumbnail is BRUTAL 😂

  • @sidedish7535
    @sidedish7535 Před rokem +5

    Nice choice on the thumbnail, Shannon 😂

  • @lunalouhoo
    @lunalouhoo Před rokem +8

    There is an elusive chemistry of talent, grit and hunger that is needed for a team to reach the top. As a long-time Cap fan I understand the frustration of the Leafs. All I know, that the year the Caps won...they (for once) had incredible "Puck Luck". Like Toronto to some degree...they also had immense pressure. We could never beat Pittsburgh! Ovi had pressure to "prove" his real worth as a player. Time and fortunate circumstances converged in that glorious year of 2018.
    Good Luck Toronto!

    • @aaronwebb8033
      @aaronwebb8033 Před rokem +1

      Yes but Washington also was constantly getting out of the first round. It was the second round we had problems. I believe that is the biggest difference

    • @jeffreyrainey1015
      @jeffreyrainey1015 Před rokem +1

      thank you. And I hope that Rasmus Sandin has a long and productive tenure with the capitals. See you next season.

    • @lunalouhoo
      @lunalouhoo Před rokem +2

      @@aaronwebb8033 True...but it seemed whenever we met Pittsburgh in whatever round we were done. It was a hump we couldn't get around for several years.

  • @ncucomics287
    @ncucomics287 Před rokem +12

    Thank you for bring up the Tavares contract, that was the moment this team's fate was set. Dubas was like a kid in a candy store when he saw Tavares was interested in signing so he just threw undeserving money at him. It didn't fit the teams needs at the time, just hurt it.

    • @robwhitexp
      @robwhitexp Před rokem +2

      Imagine the 2 or 3 solid players they could've had if they didn't have the Tavares contract

    • @archimedes2261
      @archimedes2261 Před rokem

      At 3 or 4 million caphit that's a lot of depth the Leafs could have had instead of one player.

    • @atlasfeynman1039
      @atlasfeynman1039 Před rokem +1

      @@archimedes2261 If you seriously think you can find 2 or 3 solid players for a 4 mil cap hit who are better than Tavares, ur just a fanboy.

    • @Garvatron89
      @Garvatron89 Před rokem +1

      Yiu wanna talk about undeserving money, the contracts to marner matthews and he'll even nylander were undeserving. Guys never won anything or took the team anywhere yet two of them get over 10mill. At least JT earned his money when he played on the island. Might of been an overpay but he worked for a large raise.

    • @peterroberts4415
      @peterroberts4415 Před rokem

      For years I've seen that his contract the primary issue

  • @peterdragon6367
    @peterdragon6367 Před rokem +16

    Love these playoffs. Laughs are out, Boston, Pittsburgh, Chicago, rangers, avalanche, all out. I’m a wings fan so those are the teams I dislike the most. Hopefully we’ll be back in it soon

    • @lordrayden3045
      @lordrayden3045 Před rokem +1

      You realize chicago wasn’t in right?

    • @v0LcaN_o___
      @v0LcaN_o___ Před rokem +2

      I'm a lightning fan and I hate the same teams especially chicago 😂

    • @peterdragon6367
      @peterdragon6367 Před rokem

      @@lordrayden3045 I do

    • @tommyhoffman
      @tommyhoffman Před rokem +1

      Go hawks boys bedarddddd

    • @FischerFan
      @FischerFan Před rokem

      @@tommyhoffman I am SO relieved that Connor Bedard didn't end up in Disneyland.

  • @evog35viii
    @evog35viii Před rokem +5

    I keep getting Nylander confused with NY Islanders

  • @dyates6380
    @dyates6380 Před rokem +1

    Excellent analysis man. Great video. I couldn't agree more.

  • @jamesj6597
    @jamesj6597 Před rokem +5

    Paul Maurice was asked if he thought the Leafs players started feeling the presure when they went down 3-0.
    He replied that in Toronto (maybe Montreal too) you start feeling the pressure at training camp.

  • @alecholland
    @alecholland Před rokem +23

    “I’m a BeLeafer, I couldn’t leave them if I tried”

    • @SuperStrik9
      @SuperStrik9 Před rokem +5

      Been a lifelong Leafs fan with my earliest memories being the 87 playoffs. I'm a Toronto sports fan till I die. Maple Leafs, Raptors, Blue Jays, Argos, and TFC.

    • @mattanderson6336
      @mattanderson6336 Před rokem +2

      That song was a hit the last time the Leafs won the Cup!

    • @scottiepaterson192
      @scottiepaterson192 Před rokem

      @@SuperStrik9 wow, so no respect for the Rock then

    • @SuperStrik9
      @SuperStrik9 Před rokem

      @@scottiepaterson192 Lol. Forgot about them. Lacrosse is a fun sport.

    • @SuperStrik9
      @SuperStrik9 Před rokem

      @@scottiepaterson192 Hockey, basketball, baseball, and football are my top 4 favourite sports in that order.

  • @ryanmut239
    @ryanmut239 Před rokem +7

    Shannon with an A+ thumbnail

  • @talondavid9408
    @talondavid9408 Před rokem +1

    a great breakdown HockeyGuy!

  • @broncotex8033
    @broncotex8033 Před rokem +1

    I love this channel. Awesome information

  • @oceanshrugs9235
    @oceanshrugs9235 Před rokem +10

    I'm trying to put myself in a Leafs fans shoes right now and to honestly think of how I'd react and it is honestly hard. On one hand, you lifted the curse. You had the best season since 2004. On the other hand, there is still that elusive missing piece and unfulfilled expectations. I don't think I can simulate it in my head. Just such a grey area

    • @Hockeyhobo89
      @Hockeyhobo89 Před rokem +1

      It’s such a weird feeling I’m disappointed in how this round went but proud of how they played overall. This team could look completely different by next year, or look the exact same.

    • @jessicayoung1190
      @jessicayoung1190 Před rokem

      @@Hockeyhobo89 Anything short of cup win is a failure in my book . They should blow up the whole team and bring in their AHL players to play . What is another 56 years wait .

    • @andrewgalea5012
      @andrewgalea5012 Před rokem +3

      We were lucky to win 1 round.. tbl were better. A broken clock is still right twice a day.

  • @coreypnorris
    @coreypnorris Před rokem +6

    The video thumbnail lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @briancusack4386
    @briancusack4386 Před rokem

    Another great video, Shannon!! Well done.

  • @DJ-jf8ts
    @DJ-jf8ts Před rokem

    Your practical vs analytical line was brilliant, hit the nail on the head.

  • @tcsmith8523
    @tcsmith8523 Před rokem +7

    I don't want Toronto to hire Shannon and ruin his career, we need him, he is the best presenter of the NHL!

    • @carletonrutherford1799
      @carletonrutherford1799 Před rokem

      LOL, what? The Hockey Guy is a CZcamsr. I doubt the Leaf organization even knows he exists.

    • @archimedes2261
      @archimedes2261 Před rokem

      Lol they would take away our hockey guy and chief analytics entertainer 😄

  • @_Thunderball_
    @_Thunderball_ Před rokem +17

    According to most Leafs fans you just need to fire all the refs and Leafs will win the cup.

    • @alwayslistening3340
      @alwayslistening3340 Před rokem +1

      Not the leafs fans in my family. We always hope for more, but there's 32 teams, and only 4 get to go deeper than the leafs did this year.
      Florida was a better team this series, and Toronto will have to improve if they want to be the better team next year.

    • @mikeyhab4483
      @mikeyhab4483 Před rokem +4

      I never understood the ...refs against us theory. If the league were to rig things, wouldn't they rig it so the teams that make them the most money are favored? 😅

    • @alwayslistening3340
      @alwayslistening3340 Před rokem +2

      @@mikeyhab4483 Exactly that. There's every reason for the league to be pro leafs, the headquarters is in Toronto, likely staffed by leaf fans.
      No one is "out to get us", except maybe a few opposing fans who get rubbed the wrong way by our crazys xD

  • @lukemilden4372
    @lukemilden4372 Před rokem +1

    Love your channel. You're a legend

  • @ozzymandias7649
    @ozzymandias7649 Před rokem +5

    The opening discussion on analytics should be noted with the following: A sport with far fewer moving pieces and a lesser range of outcomes like baseball lends itself well to analytics. When it comes to hockey analytics the public has access to very limited data, and teams almost certainly each have their own in house stats and analytics. But those are trade secrets, so what the public has is almost all determined on shots and shot attempts. It's just not on the same level as baseball in terms of the weight you can give analytics.

    • @carletonrutherford1799
      @carletonrutherford1799 Před rokem

      100% fact! Analytics does not lend itself to a dynamic sport like hockey. Analytics people have conned the NHL into thinking it really works. It is in hockey to convince hockey that it needs to be there. That's it.

  • @GoalLineHockey
    @GoalLineHockey Před rokem +3

    THG Thumbnail is incredible 🔥🔥

  • @ExasBits
    @ExasBits Před rokem +1

    I’ll have to watch this later, but the thumbnail made me look at the time stamp anyway. That’s a classic ❤❤❤

  • @reimagineering.tomorrowlan1505

    The Caps were really good for long stretches and couldn't get over the hump till they finally won in 2018. Maybe it's not the same pain, but as a fan it sure felt like it.

  • @mikedoyle7300
    @mikedoyle7300 Před rokem +4

    How easily people forget about 96 semifinal against N.J. when the buds got 6 that's SIX shots in the entire game, that was it for me. When fans want to win more than the players then something is wrong.

  • @picnadoxd6011
    @picnadoxd6011 Před rokem +3

    It also seemed weird to me that even after a win Keefe would always change the line ups. He never had a shut down line. Most teams have that 3rd line that goes up against the other teams top players and just hard on the puck,forechecks and scores. He just seemed so confused on where to put who

  • @stephenmoncrieff2056
    @stephenmoncrieff2056 Před rokem +1

    It took them so long to get out of the first round that when they finally did they didn't know what to do .

  • @sbrown1953
    @sbrown1953 Před rokem +2

    I am old enough to have watched the Leafs win the Cup on our B&W TV. It's been a very long time since the Leafs have had another parade in Hogtown.

  • @Odipherous
    @Odipherous Před rokem +4

    If the champions don't have the best analytics, maybe the analytics are valuing the wrong things.

  • @adamjosey1543
    @adamjosey1543 Před rokem +5

    That's the best take I've seen so far.
    I'm cheering for Florida for the rest of this playoffs.

    • @johnburns9634
      @johnburns9634 Před rokem +3

      Would be Ironic if Florida lost to a former Maple Leafs goalie.

  • @MFD8724
    @MFD8724 Před rokem

    Took me a bit to shake off my depression and work myself up to watch. Great analysis as always. I think it just comes down to heart. For whatever reason. Playing hockey in Toronto just saps the heart out of a hockey player. You can put it up to the media, the deep pockets of ownership, the fans, or even the extra chip on the shoulder teams have when playing the Leafs. Whatever the reason is or the combination of reasons it causes the Leaf players to not play hungry in the playoffs and it shows. Thank you empty void of the youtube comment section for allowing me to vent and get this off my chest. Have a good day.

  • @QuackAttack
    @QuackAttack Před rokem +17

    The likes are already at 67 after 5 minutes of this video being uploaded... how fitting 🤭

  • @Miller09095
    @Miller09095 Před rokem +4

    This is such a multifaceted problem that it's almost mind boggling to think about. You can put blame just about anywhere and it'd be hard to discount anyone's points. The core of Matthews, Marner, Tavares and Nylander need to be better. The coach's defensive scheme is too passive and leaves his team looking dumb in their own zone often. Kyle Dubas has not solved the goaltending trouble. You could nitpick all day. I lean towards the coach needing replacement but there's more to it than just him.

  • @RandomGuyCDN
    @RandomGuyCDN Před rokem +4

    Was listening to this in the background. But dont think it was mentioned but Matthews and Marner have NMC's that kick in July 1st so the leafs gotta decide pretty quick if they're keeping or shipping the the bois that ghost when it comes time for the playoffs.

  • @Juppe50
    @Juppe50 Před rokem +1

    Shannon really fired up in the post season. I love it.

  • @gordonmacdowell8117
    @gordonmacdowell8117 Před rokem +5

    The current Maple Leafs remind me a lot of the Ottawa Senators in the Alfredsson Era, except that that team went to the Finals, because they held onto key depth players longer. Ottawa had a lot of high skill, big name forwards who didn't like to go to the net, some decent defence but never a true #1 guy, and good enough but not great goaltending. If you want the President's Trophy, you collect as many high skill stars as possible. If you want to win in the playoffs you need to build from the crease and blueline out.

    • @DarthABBA
      @DarthABBA Před rokem +1

      Ottawa consistently preforms better in the playoffs then the leafs do.

    • @SuperStrik9
      @SuperStrik9 Před rokem

      @@DarthABBA Except when Ottawa plays the Leafs. 0-4 all time.

    • @DarthABBA
      @DarthABBA Před rokem

      @@SuperStrik9 True but that was a long time ago, back then the leafs could actually preform in the playoffs

    • @SuperStrik9
      @SuperStrik9 Před rokem

      @@DarthABBA As opposed to the Sens who haven't even made the playoffs in over half a decade.

  • @rustedbiscuits874
    @rustedbiscuits874 Před rokem +14

    Damn these Leafs fans went from the loudest on earth to silent 😂

    • @dikbozo
      @dikbozo Před rokem +5

      Sweetest sound the spring has to offer IMO.

  • @barbarian92
    @barbarian92 Před rokem +6

    Saw it said elsewhere, but it feels like the Leafs have players who like to win instead of hating to lose

  • @iCipher
    @iCipher Před rokem +1

    The media in Toronto is a poison, all the media availability and interviews and all the other bs is soul draining and counter-productive, always has been in this city.

  • @jaclynbriggs9088
    @jaclynbriggs9088 Před rokem

    I loved that thumbnail! You are so funny.

  • @joeya8721
    @joeya8721 Před rokem +8

    The Toronto team has quite a few mercenaries but very few heart and soul players

    • @Sweedtrader
      @Sweedtrader Před rokem

      Mercenaries? Who? Name names?

    • @ddos_attacks
      @ddos_attacks Před rokem

      @@CaptainFordo21 LOL

    • @Sweedtrader
      @Sweedtrader Před rokem

      ​@@CaptainFordo21 One shouldn't question these players commitments to the club, one could question their ability to rise to the occasion at important games. To call them mercenaries is unfair.

  • @mattanderson6336
    @mattanderson6336 Před rokem +5

    Shannon-That title should say 57th straight season. I never thought anyone would break New York’s record of 54 years without a Stanley Cup. Toronto is setting the bar higher. 😂😂😂

    • @richardferguson6893
      @richardferguson6893 Před rokem +4

      *the Canucks have entered the chat*

    • @keithck3720
      @keithck3720 Před rokem +2

      In all fairness, the 20 years or so Harold Ballard was sole owner were a black hole of incredible cheapness and crappiness.
      Would they have won a cup in that time if they had an owner that actually cared about the on-ice product? Who knows but some of the worst teams in franchise history were iced during his ownership. Also not saying any of today's problems go back to then but there's a world where the Leafs don't have a 57 year drought if they had better ownership back then.

    • @johnburns9634
      @johnburns9634 Před rokem +1

      @@keithck3720
      Ok, that was Twenty years, now for the other Thirty-Six…

    • @johnburns9634
      @johnburns9634 Před rokem

      @@keithck3720 not making the finals is not making the finals. All were no shots to win the Cup.

    • @keithck3720
      @keithck3720 Před rokem +1

      @@johnburns9634 Misspoke. Corrected to decent playoff runs

  • @Chimeratech8
    @Chimeratech8 Před rokem +1

    19:00 Great video Shannon!
    Signed,
    A Standard West Coast Leafs Hater

  • @steveharvey2102
    @steveharvey2102 Před rokem +1

    Hi, I asked a question too quickly because you answered it soon after.
    Sorry about that. I should have had more faith in you :)
    Thanks, you're awesome!

  • @elliotwalton6159
    @elliotwalton6159 Před rokem +6

    There is a Zen story of an archer who famously never missed the bullseye. He traveled around the country demonstrating his talent, never missing his target. Then one day as he was preparing to shoot a monk says to him, "I'll give you $10 for every bullseye." The archer missed every shot.
    That's analytics to me.

    • @blackenedmagic888
      @blackenedmagic888 Před rokem +1

      I agree. Sure, a player or a team can lead the NHL in high-danger chances, but if they can't/don't score on them, what does it matter?

    • @alwayslistening3340
      @alwayslistening3340 Před rokem +1

      Great analogy. The more fans can't accept failure, the more failure they will have to accept.

  • @Markynaz
    @Markynaz Před rokem +3

    Let's not forget, many Toronto fans BEGGED for Florida.

  • @MrVisde
    @MrVisde Před rokem +1

    Sharks fan here. Leafs remind me watching the Sharks have great regular seasons, then ousted early in the playoffs. There’s a small window to figure it out and invest in the core group of players. Sharks messed that up when they let Pavelski walk and the team has been circling the drain ever since. Don’t let that happen in Toronto…

  • @steve13thlegion16
    @steve13thlegion16 Před rokem +1

    Rochester Americans just beat the Marlies in game 2 and Merks fans were chanting "we want Florida"

  • @swavekbu4959
    @swavekbu4959 Před rokem +3

    Leafs scored a maximum of 2 goals per day in this series. For an "offensive juggernaut", it should be clear as day to Dubas that good defensive teams know how to shut down the Leafs in the playoffs. Regular season, sure, have fun, score some goals. But playoffs are entirely different. Tight checking and every dirty trick in the book makes the Leafs a zero threat in the postseason.

  • @datriaxsondor590
    @datriaxsondor590 Před rokem +3

    11:59 Problem with Matthews is, that's ALL he's good for. Goals.
    If he doesn't score, like in the FLA series, he's essentially a pylon out there. He has the heart of a roadkill squirrel, and the courage of a timid kitten. For $11.5M a year? Ya, 40 goals is low, when that's ALL you do.

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  Před rokem +2

      www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/upon-further-review-how-auston-matthews-has-changed-his-style-effectiveness/ Not really.

    • @datriaxsondor590
      @datriaxsondor590 Před rokem +3

      @@TheHockeyGuy No offense, really. An article from a known Toronto Maple Leafs mouthpiece site like SportsNet, is hardly a zinger.
      I think I'll trust my own eyes in what I saw in this year's playoffs, than some fluff piece by Justin Bourne. 😆
      Matthews is simply not a playoff performer, and you know that, as well as anyone.
      Have a good summer, bud.

  • @matiasmorales1130
    @matiasmorales1130 Před rokem +2

    That thumbnail is pure gold lololol

  • @BarnJ
    @BarnJ Před rokem +1

    The thumbnail had me dying 😂

  • @Krokodilius
    @Krokodilius Před rokem +5

    leafs played 1 good game, game 2 vs tampa, where they looked like the team everyone expected. other than that they were outwilled, outplayed....they probably shouldn't have got by tampa and likely to lose to them round 1 next year.

  • @otakumusprime7745
    @otakumusprime7745 Před rokem +4

    This is relatively unrelated, but has going "all in" and bringing in a bunch of big names ever worked? Rangers did it and were knocked out in the first round by Jersey, Boston did it and were knocked out by Florida (who didn't do anything at the deadline as I recall), and now Toronto has also fallen to Florida. Seattle didn't do anything either and they still have a chance to make it to the conference final (Hoping not as a Dallas fan but still XD).

    • @sportsnerd100
      @sportsnerd100 Před rokem

      LA is probably the last major move maker to win

  • @FoodFollow
    @FoodFollow Před rokem +2

    Dubas signed the core 4 before the freeze on the cap. The freeze hurt the Leafs more than any other team because of it. He did as good a job as he could to work around. I hope they all get extended. Been a Leafs fan for 52 years and I've seen bad management. They are not the reason. Give them a chance when the cap goes up.

  • @amsro9094
    @amsro9094 Před rokem

    Conglaturations!

  • @kbridges22
    @kbridges22 Před rokem +2

    Hockey Guy = Best Analysis

  • @johnfeeley7094
    @johnfeeley7094 Před rokem +3

    Obviously I enjoy when the leafs defeat the Habs & Sens BUT I'm happy if a Canadian team(city) wins a Cup so good luck to the Oilers👍

  • @louisdifabio293
    @louisdifabio293 Před rokem

    Great choice with the thumbnail!

  • @isaacwest276
    @isaacwest276 Před rokem

    Totally agree on the analytics comment. Now I LOVE analytics, they are so fun to look at, but like every other stat all they do is tell another side of the story.

  • @abyssshriek7631
    @abyssshriek7631 Před rokem +3

    I’m not a fan of either team but I’d like to see Austin matthews on the coyotes. One of the top 4 on the leafs gotta go, and he seems like the east answer

    • @wtcwtc9861
      @wtcwtc9861 Před rokem

      I believe Auston will be heading home to Ariz.

  • @OotoriKyouya
    @OotoriKyouya Před rokem +3

    Let's be honest here. Even THG likes to take a shot at the Leafs when it applies. The thumbnail is proof of that 😂😂
    Also, I agree with THG about analytics. As someone who deals with numbers on a daily basis, it only tells a part of the story. People need to stop saying or thinking that it tells the whole story

  • @benchow8851
    @benchow8851 Před rokem +1

    Leafs went all in on this season by bringing in the rental top-end players, they won two more games than they did last season, and they got crushed by the team they wanted to play against in the Panthers...

  • @bosskey7212
    @bosskey7212 Před rokem +2

    In my opinion from and outside looking in perspective, I think the Leafs did what they could do under their control to bring in the roster they did. Ultimately it is up to the players, as a whole unit, to perform and produce. Florida's defense and Bobrovsky playing like he did a few years ago before he signed that insane contract really has spurred them on. They had a great gameplan to stifle Toronto's offense and their was always someone in Matthews' face any time he touched the puck. The Leafs didn't have an answer to Florida's gameplan and it showed. I do think they need to move on from atleast one of those core players' contracts otherwise they'll never be able to add any significant depth to the roster in the next few years because their high draft picks are all gone

  • @virushasdetectedawindows8381

    THG is wrong for that thumbnail lmao