Unboxing 3 B-grade Rifles from Royal Tiger Imports (Moschetto M91, Mannlicher 95, Vetterli 70/87/15)
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Part 2 after cleaning up for those of you interested: czcams.com/video/g5VYcPq2LRs/video.htmlsi=DMDYjCj1JwWO2694
Just when i thought i was out they pulled me right back in.... Sopranos quote to make yourself feel better
Haha yeah, I wouldn’t recommend them unless you’re after something particular or like gunsmith specials. I just wanted a couple cheap examples of each.
You are lucky you found an empty shell. RTI never checked the b grade Enfield i got it had two bullets wedged in the barrel. The replacement they sent a month later had a bore that would not chamber a cartridge I had to get a barrel hone to run through it until it would chamber a round but for a No4 Mark one Enfield they should never have sold it as is. That was last year have not bought anything from them since.
That’s rough. I’ve only ever seen their Enfields being in really rough condition.
Thanks for sharing...typical RTI stuff. Btw, nothing wrong with the Vetterli bolt wiggling - that's just how they are. I'm about done with RTI at this point...as soon as they get a good customer service rep in, that person leaves and we're back to delays in shipments and shipping wrong rifles again. I ordered an 88/95 a while back and am still waiting on it.
Haha you’ve had a fair bit of experience with them so I can only imagine. You’ve documented yours really well!
Hey USNA, it been a while. I just made an order from them last week. There been shipping delays recently with them?
@@tomc6255 my last purchase took a little over a month to receive which was longer than usual. When I contacted them, they said 4+ weeks is what they're advertising now.
@@usna98 4 weeks in reference to returning, correct?
i broke down and ordered a b grade long rifle M95 after they moved them down to 150 dollars.
I did so only because a found a die set for 8x50 rimmed which is can use to resize brass now. Also gotta start casting some leading i guess haha
How’d yours turn out?
@@GarandGuy2553Lots of dirt on the stock poor to fair boor and maybe 40% blue after cleaning. But technically functional
My Vetterli's and Steyr's have been mostly good from them. As for Carcano's, ones from Europe were quite nice, but ones from Ethiopia all became parts. Their Swiss rifles are great. I've passed on the mausers, as it's only 100 more to buy one I can see first, elsewhere.
Yeah, their mausers are a massive rip off.
@@GarandGuy2553 some of the m48 listings were tempting, but I bought a turk instead, that I could see the bore, for 100 less. Oddly, I get far better stuff in b grade, than regular grade, when buying RTI.
@@charlene2400 true! That’s why I grabbed a B-grade Vetterli instead of the more expensive one. The margin of quality must not be that amazing between the listed “conditions”.
got a vetterli from them. restored it. bore was rough but there. chamber needed a bit of polishing but now runs a treat and i could easily put food on my table with it.
mine is i think the 85/15 (6.5x52mm)
it looks lovely hanging above my mantle
For some reason, mine is having trouble feeding inert rounds. I’ve been playing with it for a few weeks now but it’s not bad looking.
@@GarandGuy2553 i dont wanna get too into diagnosing it but.... is it not stripping them from the clip? is the feed lever not pushing them up or holding them in the right angle so that they hit the breech and not the chamber? or will they just not fit in the bore?
m95 fires 8x50 smokeless, those m95's were war reparations to italy and ended up in the AOI. You can get 8x50 from custom reloaders. Vetterli's in 6.5 like to blow up look at C&R arsenal's page they went through 2 of them and the 3rd they had to load at a reduced charge.
Not shilling for RTI but the company does have its usage as being the primary source to the Mannlicher 8x50mmR rifles, black powder vetterlis, Berdans and Gras. Everything else but the m1 carbines, carcano moschettos/ts carbines from Italy, m1 garands (from what I see) and swiss rifles, are a mere gamble.
This is true. I just wish they had been more transparent about the conditions & grading. I believe their customer service has improved a bit since 2020 but Uli still seems like a shady dude.
sick find on the cav carbine, mine has that same bayonet style. They were supposed to swap over to the newer model after a couple of years of WWI but mine was somehow made with the pre-war bayonet in 1935. That said that style is hard to find.
They swapped over to the button bayonet latch mid-war. However, you’ll find older latch styles on post-war models because the Italians heavily recycled older parts. This means your 1935 carbine has a recycled front site and bayonet from an earlier rifle.
Did you select the pre 1918 option for the carcano or was that luck of the draw?
Luck of the draw!
I have a tip for royal tiger imports buy individual list if you want to know what your getting. Otherwise you have to roll the dice. Keep in mind that alot of the firearms come from Africa and were used by mostly untrained troops or gorilla war fighters. Who were handed a rifle and told how to shoot it and sent to fight. Then when the war was over they were stacked in open air warehouses aka chicken coup like fire wood for 50 years. So have low expectations. I hear the itialian rifle came from both itialian armory and Ethiopia. The ones that came from Italy are in good shape not so much from Africa. Thanks for the video good job.
I miss when Inter-Ordnance (RTI) would go to the Charlotte, North Carolina gun shows. Could pick through the rifles to find the good ones.
Since RTI doesn't use the nationally accepted NRA rating system, you really don't know what grade A, B or C really means. 🤠
Nope! Their grading scale was written by a drunk Irishman who has no eyes.
The Vetterli doesn't have a vitali magazine anymore.
Because of conversion to 6.5 mm?
Yeah, ones that were converted got different magazines.
Apparently, the 54r brass can be fireforned in an 8x50r chamber. Does it look like it's been stretched to the 8x50r dimensions?
The brass can then be reloaded using modern components. Guessing someone @ RTI was testing that theory.
I’m not sure. It was steel cased so I’m not sure how fire formed it could get. I didn’t check the dimensions but it was probably from Ethiopian guy back in the 70’s shooting it.
@@GarandGuy2553 ok. I was hoping it was explainable as something other than "ooopsie...we never checked the chamber." Guess not.
@@maverickpaladin4155 oh, they’re notorious for not checking the chamber. Guys get these from RTI all the time with old casings in there.
@GarandGuy2553 that's just mind-boggling, especially given the litigious nature of today's society. What if it'd been a live round or barrel obstruction?
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I only get good to very good with them, even those need work so B Grade really scares me 😂!
Yhup. People are pretty much wasting their money on these B & C grades. Spend the money for a known, very good rifle. 🤠
I’m not sure about that. The c-grades are trash but there doesn’t seem to be a huge marginal difference between B-grade and higher grades. If you’re paying for something higher than B-grade, you can likely find a much better example for the same price outside of RTI. All in all, the grading seems randomized there so I wouldn’t spend more money than you have to.
The Austrian M95 Mannlicher didn't have rimmed 6.5 mm cartridges.
Correct. It was an 8mm rimmed cartridge known as 8×50mmR Mannlicher
@@GarandGuy2553Yes, you're right!
You needn't have pointed out that the Steyr had the AOI cartouche on the butt stock for us to know that last one had seen service in Ethiopia :-)
M91 was probably fairly graded as a B but those last two...
I’ll do a follow up video after I’ve cleaned them up. The Steyr actually turned out decent with no pitting and about 60% of the bluing is still there.
@@GarandGuy2553That indeed is a pleasant surprise. I can't wait to see that video.