As much as I love the data over dogma, I think Dan needs to make shirts with "Alright, let's see it" on the front, and "That's pure and utter nonsense" on the back.
I love how many of these conspiracies seem to rely wholly on people taking a dude at his word presumably because he has a modestly deep voice and an English accent.
One of the things I find interesting about these conspiracies is they all seem to rely on an idea that the Catholic Church has basically had full control of Christian scripture for the last like 2000 years. Like this conspiracy is post-reformation.
Yeah, JSOC (Jesuit Special Operations Command) sent teams of operators into all of the protestant churches and homes to steal their Bibles and replace them with the new ones. They would fly in on the backs of dragons, fastrope down and SPIE out. There's a few videos of them doing it.
I wish content creators with any interest in these topics would use that to read, research and learn. But I think viewers to Dan’s channel are aware of the deluge of this low effort click bait stuff - but which spreads and affects the minds of others who think it must be true! So big thanks to Dr Dan, this stuff really matters!
The Oxford Bibles that were given out on to Confirmants in the New Apostolic Church had the King James Apocrypha's fourteen books. I still have the one I received 48 years ago. More recently, I was able to buy 2 versions of the New Oxford Annotated Bible that had an even more comprehensive collection of apocryphal books by including English translations of books found in various Eastern Orthodox canons besides those included in either Roman Catholic or Protestant Canons. I also purchased a Harper-Collins study Bible which also included a more extensive Apocrypha, for example a third and fourth book of Maccabees and Psalm 151. These purchases were made at large chain bookstores such as Barnes and Nobles about 20 to 30 years ago. Sadly these more inclusive Bibles with their scholarly prefaces, annotations, and explanatory chapters are no longer available off the shelf in such stores in the USA and Canada. The majority of Bibles to be found in these types of stores are now evangelical publications with only the Old and New Testaments and a distinctly conservative Protestant bias to any commentary added to the text.
I also find it hard to find alternative translations in most bookstores. They are focused on the KJV, RKJV, NRSV, NIV, and NASB. There are many other versions which they don't carry. The New Oxford Annotated Bible does look interesting. I am looking for a good Bible Concordance if you could recommend any versions. I also want to buy a good Bible Commentary, but they are maybe 20 volume sets and cost a lot.
@scottbrandon6244 l apologize for replying to you 8 days later. I have two versions of 'The New Oxford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha' Revised Standard Version originally printed in 1962. I have the 2nd edition printed in 1977. This edition is edited by Herbert G, May of Oberlin College and Vanderbilt University, and Bruce M. Metzger of the Princeton Theological Seminary both Doctors of Theology, who though Conservative in outlook were not opposed to new interpretations of Scripture as indicated by modern archeological discoveries philosophical discourse. There is a general introduction to the Bible, a short introduction to the Old Testament, another short intro to the New Testament, and extensive annotations to the texts through page 1514. After that, there are short articles on understanding the Bible written from a conservative theological perspective; then an article on the 'Modern Approaches to Biblical Study', which gives a brief overview of Literary, Form, Redaction, and Historical context criticism; a short essay on the, 'Characteristics of Hebrew Poetry', an article on the, 'Literary Forms of the Gospels'; and finally a, 'Survey of the Geography, History, and Archaeology of the Bible Lands'. This is followed by some historical charts and an index. The last section of this volume has a seventeen page preface and a 340-page RSV of the Apocrypha. The last pages are of fourteen maps. The other RSV New Oxford Bible in my Library is the Augmented Third Edition of 2007, Michael D. Coogan editor of the Harvard Divinity School. There are many other contributors with both the prefaces and introductions to the sections and the books of this version of the Bible being much more extensive than the 2nd edition. It has a more open-ended and less conservative view of Biblical studies than is to be found in the prior 2nd edition. The Harper Collins Study Bible, a New Annotated Edition by the Society of Biblical Literature printed 1993, is the third version of the RSV that I own. Wayne A. Meeks of Yale University is the general editor of this volume. It is annotated as well, but with fewer essays. Instead of a concordance, I have a copy of the Harper's Bible Dictionary printed 1985, general editor Paul J. Achtemeier of the Union Theological Seminary of Richmond, Virginia. It has 1178 pages followed by 16 maps. All of these Bibles and the Biblical Dictionary are available, especially in the secondary book market. Amazon also carries some of these versions. I have seen prices ranging from $20 to $70, probably taking the condition of the book into account.
Hmm. What you said makes sense, Dan, but I’m troubled that you didn’t acknowledge the narrator’s British accent. That’s got to count for some credibility.
@johnburn - As i have already asked @MASTEROFAllARKS above… well you could actually just provide evidence to the contrary of the history instead of just spouting unfounded claims… History does shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, not only did they not agree but their list of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time. So, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved it by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please PLEASE tell us, show us, who did?
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Loving these matter of fact videos but it would be good to have a reference for the videos that you debunk, stating who released them and where they may be found.
Why would you wanna dishonor the savior or creator & HOLYSPIRIT with "Filth... vs reciprocate LOVE grace respect he give you family future... sinning only open DOORS to attack in life ,thief comes to steal kill destroy rem not SERVANT on purpose is worship son satan by default there no breathing room.. May Lord Forgive the evil Joke...Its serious ,saving soul must not play HOLYSPIRIT hears
Ive always liked that great joke from red dwarf where they said a new page of the bible was found that said “all characters and events in this book are fictional, and resemble to real life people or events is purely coincidental”.
This is probably especially true of Sirach and Wisdom. They were written a tiny bit before Jesus and reflect the increasingly sophisticated Jewish thought from that time. Jesus never quotes from them but the early church was influenced by them.
@@philsphan4414 Usually our Apocryphal readings come from Wisdom. In a sermon about Sirach, we learned that it was used to instruct gentile newcomers to the faith in ethics.
@@karenspivey3203 The early church was a big fan of Sirach. It was sometimes called “Ecclesiasticus” for the reason that it was a “church book.” There is an English language Catholic Bible that actually predates the KJV by a tiny bit where it is called that. Too confusing given Ecclesiastes. That translation is very popular with the Catholic extreme right, but it is unreadable IMHO.
Would those books have this on the first page, 'This is a work of fiction. Names,characters,events and incidents are the product of the author's imagination."?
Hi Dan, could you do a video on why the Orthodox and Catholic traditions have different number books? Also, regards Judas making sacrifices for his soldiers...that sounds human empathy and desperation to me. People don't always operate on set/sound theological grounds especially when those concepts are still at least somewhat in flux as you've addressed in your other videos.
Yeah and especially seeing as it's Judas, the story could easily be there to show he didn't really understand or trust what Jesus was doing perhaps. Not endorsing that exegesis particularly but that's one of many ways to read it.
@@trapd00rspider Judas Maccabeus... who lead the "Maccabean Revolt" against the Seleucid Empire... Born approximately 190 BC(E), Died approximately 160 BC(E). He kinda missed out on being a Disciple & Betrayer of Jesus, by about 190 Years.
I'd just like to point out that Anglicans include the Apocrypha in their bibles and it reflects the same canon as Eastern Orthodox Christians. Anglicans are generally lumped in with Protestants, so I thought I'd mention that, even though they're a 'middle way' between the two more or less.
1684? Is there something tenuous connection to Jansenism? In any case, the Catholic Bible contains 7 more books than the Protestant Bible and 1 less than the most commonly accepted Orthodox Bible.
Anglicans still read the Deutero-Canonical books, but as history only; no doctrine can be taken from the Deutero-Canonical books unless the doctrine can be found in the 66 books of the Old and/or New Testaments.
1 and 2 Esdras is also the alternative name for Ezra and Nehamiah, which makes things more confusing. If your bible only has 1 and 2 Esdras, but not Ezra and Nehemiah, you likely have the alternative name for Ezra and Nehemiah.
@@ArchangelsBookClub Bizarre, right? But yes, Mormons can and do engage in legitimate Biblical scholarship. Most end up discovering the falseness of Mormonism and leave, and often find the Bible itself is untenable and become agnostic and/or atheist. But some find ways to compartmentalize so completely that they never have to confront the internal conflicts of their various pieces of factual knowledge and religious beliefs.
@@fernlovebond Yeah; it's very weird. I don't know how you go from studying ancient texts and see evidence for every religion under the son on a textual basis, and learn about ancient languages, but then can't take that critical eye to the book of Mormon and see that it has no textual basis whatsoever, and reformed egyptian has never existed. It's bonkers to me. But maybe it's an issue of having family and not wanting to lose it. The Mormons have almost become their own race now, it's not just a religion, but a whole social structure. Hard to leave.
It's a bot reading it though, most can tell that and it makes it seem more fake/satirical especially with the "wubba lubba dub dub" annotation at the beginning. I don't think that's a good way to start the conversation, even with Protestant anti-Catholic and anti-Orthodox bias, it's better just to slap all denominations with the truth directly.
I started watching the video they did remove pages from the book. They moved it because they thought it was worshiping the devil back then yes there are a few things I do know for a fact that was in it after a few research mentioned creatures that we are known to believe their myth. A few of them are dragons, leprechauns mermaids and unicorns. I’m just gonna tell you this they are not from Disney version. If you meet one if they are real, don’t pet it avoid it mostly the damn leprechaun. Those things are pranksters but if you piss it off, it will kill you in the most brutal way ever anyway they mentioned them in the Bible, but since they were dangerous creatures that haven’t been seen for centuries they decide to remove it from the Bible and they don’t exist before someone says I am wrong. I don’t know why I’m talking about. The whole book is about multiplying fish healing that are blind. I believe in God you believe that he with us right now. 50-50 do I believe in the Bible? somewhat but I do believe in are there are things we don’t know about this planet. We are not the top of the food chain there are creatures out there that we have not discovered yet and once that we haven’t seen in thousands of years that are known as myth gorillas were a myth as well
@@gabitamiravideos Yep, this here. Clickbait gets money, and sensationalist claims of salacious history about hot-button topics like religion will help make that money.
You seem very knowledgeable and intelligent I cannot believe the amount of time it probably took to gain this wisdom but I can't understand why you would feel it was so important the who what when and where of a fictitious story in the first place. God was created by a few dumb people refined and used by several smart to control masses of ignorant people.
I'm admittedly ignorant of many of the finer details of Protestant history, but I never dreamed the ultimate reason the Deuterocanon/Apocrypha were finally excised from their Bible was "capitalism". In retrospect, I should have known. 😂 Did non-English speaking Protestant sects have an opinion on the Apocrypha?
If I hadn't known some of this stuff already, I would have seen a red flag when he went on about the change from I to J - doesn't know his history. Also Iesous is a transliteration of the greek. English people changed it to Jesus cos we're lazy and it's easier to say.
1John 5:7-8 , 7:53,8:11 and Mark 16:9-20 not in original koine Greek new testament . Look up Johanna Commeum debate went on for centuries in Christian councils. "Virgin" in future tense added to Isaiah 7:14 in Hebrew . KJV added "Easter" also. Marcion first cannon excluded all of the Hebrew Scripture. There are hundreds of variant versions of the Christian bibles none used match the original koine Greek new testament or Hebrew Scripture sources.. Verify that. "Why did God create the Mormons " ? So Christians would understand how Jews feel..
Protestants ignore the Catholic Church gave the Holy Bible to the world. They rewrote it after the Protestant reformation, deleted verses, chapters and changed wording to both the Holy Bible and The Ten Commandments Protestants ignore that Jesus Christ wants everyone to be His One True Apostolic Catholic (Universal) Church. John 10:16 And I have other sheep that are not of this fold, and I must lead them. They shall hear my voice, and there shall be one sheepfold and one shepherd. John 17:20 But I am not praying for them only, but also for those who through their word shall believe in me. John 17:21 So may they all be one. Just as you, Father, are in me, and I am in you, so also may they be one in us: so that the world may believe that you have sent me. John 17:22 And the glory that you have given to me, I have given to them, so that they may be one, just as we also are one. John 17:23 I am in them, and you are in me. So may they be perfected as one. And may the world know that you have sent me and that you have loved them, just as you have also loved me. John 17:24 Father, I will that where I am, those whom you have given to me may also be with me, so that they may see my glory which you have given to me. For you loved me before the founding of the world. Ephesians 4:4 One body and one Spirit: to this you have been called by the one hope of your calling: Ephesians 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all, and through all, and in us all. In fact, He taught those who don’t stay in His doctrine, He set in His Church, don’t have Him. 2 John 1:9 Everyone who withdraws and does not remain in the doctrine of Christ, does not have God. Whoever remains in the doctrine, such a one as this has both the Father and the Son. Hebrews 13:9 Do not be led away by changing or strange doctrines. And it is best for the heart to be sustained by grace, not by foods. For the latter have not been as useful to those who walked by them. Galatians 1:7 For there is no other, except that there are some persons who disturb you and who want to overturn the Gospel of Christ. Galatians 1:8 But if anyone, even we ourselves or an Angel from Heaven, were to preach to you a gospel other than the one that we have preached to you, let him be anathema. Galatians 1:9 Just as we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone has preached a gospel to you, other than that which you have received, let him be anathema.
The anti-catholic rhetoric has very Seveth Day Adventist flair. They go hard when it comes to Catholic Conspiracy Theories. Also something feels off like the spelling of Vatican. And the "I no speak good Engrush so me make robot voice for I."
Who doesn't like a good conspiracy? I know I like to take a ride on the crazy train every now and then, just for fun. The Catholic's (easy target) ... Whatever ... 🙄 Thank god it wasn't the Baptist's ... 😂
Honestly, it sounds like you are trying to speak sense to a click-baity reel that was written by A.I. I wouldn’t doubt it, with all its contradictions.
No final determination of the Catholic canon was made before Trent, and the Church definitively excluded certain deuterocanonicals at that time. The Clementine Vulgate also contained many books which would ultimately be rejected by Trent, 3/4 Esdras, Prayer of Manasseh, etc. The Vulgate and Trent also included Baruch, which the council of Rome initially rejected, and the West seems to have nearly always rejected the Shepherd of Hermas, in spite of it being included in Sinaiticus. There is no static canon before Trent.
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
Humans *really* need to learn the Catholic Church ⭕⛪ is not a nigh omnipotent entity that can pull off schemes like this. Also, its leaders are not fanatics who will put themselves through ridiculous amounts of strife just to slightly improve the reach of their religion 🗄.
It is amazing how the Catholic Church is considered by many to be the benchmark of religion. Especially religious malfeasance. Still, there’s always this amazing quote. There are not 100 people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be. Fulton J. Sheen
@@Midoran3500 There are many that hate the Catholic Church ⭕⛪ for what it is. There are many who hate the *concept* of a Catholic Church ⭕⛪, let alone anything it did. Considering the whole have a church be holy itself and make de facto scripture itself through dogma thing. And automatically deny the validity of any church that does not join it.
@@Midoran3500 Oh, no, many of us hate the Catholic church for its actual history, its current practices/policies, and even its theological positions. But then, I feel similarly about all religion; the Catholics are just the largest, oldest and most egregious example.
"A light revision" that took 7 years to complete? I think your information is a bit skewed. 54 translators were not chosen to do a light revision. Tyndale's NT, with the work of Desiderius Erasmus, along with the Latin Vulgate and Martin Luther's German translation. The 1611 translation committee also consulted several other Byzantine Greek sources, along with the Old Testament Masoretic text. Your argument is based upon faulty information.
If religion and spirituality were based strictly on history, facts, and evidence . . . it would be science! You are arguing over nothing more than the artistic license of literature and philosophy, both of which are rooted in narrative opinion, and neither of which rest on a foundation of empirical data or truth. Are you are ALL crazy?
I think its only important what people read today. The vatican having some secret book that nobody reads is not as important as what everyone reads. How can the bible be the most widely printed book if there are so many versions of it? Sounds like different books then. Also no mention of the Book of Enoch and the dead sea scrolls that got left out of the bible. Its the omissions that are interesting.
@@hithere4719 the Dead Sea Scrolls/books were from the Librarry of Alexandria that survived. The bible was created from these books that were once in a library. So its just Constantines collection of his favourite books from a library. How can you say 72 books is the same as an entire library?
Please tell me this is meant to be a trolling joke. Numerology? And not even sophisticated nonsense, just dumb brute nonsense? You can't possibly believe this kind of foolishness.
@@fernlovebond - it is intended to show the folly of all religious claims. People actually believe things not much different than this due to confirmation bias. Look at the various interpretations of Revelation. And there are still people that defend Ron Wyatt.
Book Worship is idolatry. It's your God you should be worshiping . You have the same to access god or gods as any author of any holy book. Reading stories of the god experiences of others could be reading lies, results of mental illness or fictions to support the church they want you to join and support. If a God is real, you should be able to verify that presence yourself. Don't be led by others or by their stories. Be willing to fail in your pursuit of your god. The World is more accessible now than it has ever been. I embarked on my god quest about 60 years ago. I've been keeping an eye open for God evers since. No ill effects but I did caused a traffic accident about 35 years ago (no injuries), I pay my taxes, no murders, assaults or Handicap Zone violations to report, still got the same wife 58 years... no gods.... so far.
For someone claiming to be godless, you seem inordinately concerned with "idolatry" (a problem which shouldn't exist for a godless person), and belief in one. Get over yourself: you aren't an authority on supernatural beings, and you don't get to declare for anyone but yourself what "should" be done about their beliefs.
@Fem Lovebond I may, from time to time, use the word 'murder.' I know what the word means and that others practice it but I don't. As an outsider, I notice Christian talk about Bible more than they do about the details of their "personal relationship" with God. It's not a Golden Calf-like idol but that's how it appears to me. As for what I can and cannot declare, that's entirely up to me. If you're into idolatry... go for it... worship any book that appeals to you. And I'll comment accordingly when I please.
The Apocrypha was removed from the canon because it is pseudepigrapha. These books are not Theopneustos. Therefore, they are not trustworthy. The 66 books of the Bible are complete, with the scarlet thread of redemption running through each book of the Bible. There is no need for these false writings to be added to the text of scripture.
Go into town. Find a Catholic bookstore. Or even a Catholic church. Enter it. Go to the section marked "bibles". Look for a New Jerusalem bible. Count the number of books. Plus - here's a shocker - none of the Gospels were written by apostles and several of the Pauline epistles are 'pseudopigrapha'.
Go into town. Find a Catholic bookstore. Or even a Catholic church. Enter it. Go to the section marked "bibles". Look for a New Jerusalem bible. Count the number of books. Plus - here's a shocker - none of the Gospels were written by apostles and several of the Pauline epistles are 'pseudopigrapha'.
@@StevenWaling If you are serious, I will simply say, I am praying for you. If you believe all that foolishness you just typed out to me, you need to be born again. As for your education, I hope you did not pay for it.
@@Pastor-Brettbyfaith It is true the the gospels were anonymous and several of Paul's epistles were not written by Paul. That is not even up for debate. We've know this for a LONG time.
@Michael-le5ph While many have followed Calvin and Luther, Sproul and MacArthur; I have studied and followed Paul. Besides Jesus himself, Paul is my hero in the faith. I can also make a case for Pauline authority in Hebrews. If you are serious about your thoughts on Pauline authority, I shall not waste time. You must be born again before attempting interpretation of scripture. For you to mention such foolishness is abominable. The word of God is clear. It is Theopneustos! God Breathed and perfectly translated to us today. But understanding comes only through the Holy Spirit of God. 1Cor. 1-2. Only a Spirit filled believer can comprehend the spiritual truth within. Oh yes, those would be the words of Paul. Your lack of faith is evident in your secular understanding. I pray God's best for you. "...Repent and be baptized every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Acts 2:38 To question the scripture is evidence of your spirit. The Lord rebuke you.
But it's common knowledge from multiple sources, way back before the USA became polarized, that the Bible omitted many texts its Catholic hierarchy considered to be heretical. So when you say this and that is nonsense, why should I just believe what you say?
Pick up a Bible in a Catholic Church and look through it. Count the number of books. The texts you may be referring to are gospels and letters circulating before the 2nd century CE. If so, you are correct, the Church rejected many of them. Most were rejected because they were not written early enough, some were rejected because they had some weird stuff that just didn't sound right, like talking crosses. A fascinating history, but way before this 17th century time period.
As much as I love the data over dogma, I think Dan needs to make shirts with "Alright, let's see it" on the front, and "That's pure and utter nonsense" on the back.
“The data doesn’t support that”!
And would someone please get him a Daredevil shirt?
He has them, check his site
The same way you could find time to dig up this garbage yiu cold have found the time to locate the missing. Ages if jesus life
I would buy a couple of them: LT and M..
I love how many of these conspiracies seem to rely wholly on people taking a dude at his word presumably because he has a modestly deep voice and an English accent.
It's a text-to-speech bot.
So not even a dude. Just the vague representation of a middle aged Englishman.
Seriously, TikTok is for brainless morons. All anyone has to do is to read the wiki.
So a guy speaking to a burning bush is ok, totally believable? Maybe he had an English accent to convince everyone the burning bush was talking to him
As an Englishman with a deep voice, I can say this is purely an on-line phenomena, as a basement full of snake oil attests.
@@Gaia_Projectwell God energy will make you blind and age so talking to a bush is more safer
One of the things I find interesting about these conspiracies is they all seem to rely on an idea that the Catholic Church has basically had full control of Christian scripture for the last like 2000 years. Like this conspiracy is post-reformation.
Yeah, JSOC (Jesuit Special Operations Command) sent teams of operators into all of the protestant churches and homes to steal their Bibles and replace them with the new ones. They would fly in on the backs of dragons, fastrope down and SPIE out. There's a few videos of them doing it.
You always know you're looking at a trustworthy source when it's captioned with "Wubba lubba dub dub".
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty.
I wish content creators with any interest in these topics would use that to read, research and learn. But I think viewers to Dan’s channel are aware of the deluge of this low effort click bait stuff - but which spreads and affects the minds of others who think it must be true! So big thanks to Dr Dan, this stuff really matters!
It's probably a channel that got an AI to make a script and another to voice it to get metrics on some platform.
it seems there's nothing so Christian as criticising others for something you did.
BURN. You're 100% correct though.
The Oxford Bibles that were given out on to Confirmants in the New Apostolic Church had the King James Apocrypha's fourteen books. I still have the one I received 48 years ago.
More recently, I was able to buy 2 versions of the New Oxford Annotated Bible that had an even more comprehensive collection of apocryphal books by including English translations of books found in various Eastern Orthodox canons besides those included in either Roman Catholic or Protestant Canons. I also purchased a Harper-Collins study Bible which also included a more extensive Apocrypha, for example a third and fourth book of Maccabees and Psalm 151.
These purchases were made at large chain bookstores such as Barnes and Nobles about 20 to 30 years ago. Sadly these more inclusive Bibles with their scholarly prefaces, annotations, and explanatory chapters are no longer available off the shelf in such stores in the USA and Canada. The majority of Bibles to be found in these types of stores are now evangelical publications with only the Old and New Testaments and a distinctly conservative Protestant bias to any commentary added to the text.
I also find it hard to find alternative translations in most bookstores. They are focused on the KJV, RKJV, NRSV, NIV, and NASB. There are many other versions which they don't carry. The New Oxford Annotated Bible does look interesting. I am looking for a good Bible Concordance if you could recommend any versions. I also want to buy a good Bible Commentary, but they are maybe 20 volume sets and cost a lot.
@scottbrandon6244 l apologize for replying to you 8 days later. I have two versions of 'The New Oxford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha' Revised Standard Version originally printed in 1962. I have the 2nd edition printed in 1977. This edition is edited by Herbert G, May of Oberlin College and Vanderbilt University, and Bruce M. Metzger of the Princeton Theological Seminary both Doctors of Theology, who though Conservative in outlook were not opposed to new interpretations of Scripture as indicated by modern archeological discoveries philosophical discourse. There is a general introduction to the Bible, a short introduction to the Old Testament, another short intro to the New Testament, and extensive annotations to the texts through page 1514. After that, there are short articles on understanding the Bible written from a conservative theological perspective; then an article on the 'Modern Approaches to Biblical Study', which gives a brief overview of Literary, Form, Redaction, and Historical context criticism; a short essay on the, 'Characteristics of Hebrew Poetry', an article on the, 'Literary Forms of the Gospels'; and finally a, 'Survey of the Geography, History, and Archaeology of the Bible Lands'. This is followed by some historical charts and an index. The last section of this volume has a seventeen page preface and a 340-page RSV of the Apocrypha. The last pages are of fourteen maps.
The other RSV New Oxford Bible in my Library is the Augmented Third Edition of 2007, Michael D. Coogan editor of the Harvard Divinity School. There are many other contributors with both the prefaces and introductions to the sections and the books of this version of the Bible being much more extensive than the 2nd edition. It has a more open-ended and less conservative view of Biblical studies than is to be found in the prior 2nd edition.
The Harper Collins Study Bible, a New Annotated Edition by the Society of Biblical Literature printed 1993, is the third version of the RSV that I own. Wayne A. Meeks of Yale University is the general editor of this volume. It is annotated as well, but with fewer essays.
Instead of a concordance, I have a copy of the Harper's Bible Dictionary printed 1985, general editor Paul J. Achtemeier of the Union Theological Seminary of Richmond, Virginia. It has 1178 pages followed by 16 maps.
All of these Bibles and the Biblical Dictionary are available, especially in the secondary book market. Amazon also carries some of these versions. I have seen prices ranging from $20 to $70, probably taking the condition of the book into account.
What about missing texts found in the Nag Hammadi library?
What about Book of Enoch?
Thanks for including captioning. !!!
Fantastic analysis. Loving your channel.
Yes, and if I may add, not only are the books still there, but they're also used in our liturgy.
Hmm. What you said makes sense, Dan, but I’m troubled that you didn’t acknowledge the narrator’s British accent. That’s got to count for some credibility.
I love how Dan sneaks in the Rick & Morty "wubba dubba lub lub" starting at the 2:48 mark. Bravo Dan!!
Excellent, and very informative.
It always more convincing when the narrator speaks in an exaggerated English accent.
it's not even a real guy, it's a text to speech voice bot
@@joshridinger3407 Pastor C-3PO
@@hithere4719 What about missing texts found in the Nag Hammadi library?
@@hithere4719 What about Book of Enoch?
Wow! How can anyone get so much wrong?
@johnburn - As i have already asked @MASTEROFAllARKS above…
well you could actually just provide evidence to the contrary of the history instead of just spouting unfounded claims…
History does shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, not only did they not agree but their list of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time. So, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved it by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please PLEASE tell us, show us, who did?
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Excellent video Dan
Loving these matter of fact videos but it would be good to have a reference for the videos that you debunk, stating who released them and where they may be found.
Thank you sir for your correction of these lies. Surely God almighty himself, inspires your thoughts and ministry
Lol he literally debunks everything else that is written in the bible lol
@Dez083 which Bible?
@@dedeucelaborde8918 pretty much every other Bible apart from the original texts... you have watched the rest of his stuff right?
@@Dez083 yep, and he's an ass
What an amazing video this may or may not have saved me years of confusion
I wonder if those 14 books included all the loopholes I need to get away with sinning. Lol
u mean like asking for forgiveness?
Oh yeah. 😅 I forgot that one.
you already have all the loopholes you need.
Why would you wanna dishonor the savior or creator & HOLYSPIRIT with "Filth... vs reciprocate LOVE grace respect he give you family future... sinning only open DOORS to attack in life ,thief comes to steal kill destroy rem not SERVANT on purpose is worship son satan by default there no breathing room..
May Lord Forgive the evil Joke...Its serious ,saving soul must not play HOLYSPIRIT hears
Ive always liked that great joke from red dwarf where they said a new page of the bible was found that said “all characters and events in this book are fictional, and resemble to real life people or events is purely coincidental”.
In my Episcopal church we occasionally have readings from the Apocryphal books.
This is probably especially true of Sirach and Wisdom. They were written a tiny bit before Jesus and reflect the increasingly sophisticated Jewish thought from that time. Jesus never quotes from them but the early church was influenced by them.
@@philsphan4414 Jesus does quote from the book of Enoch, but yes Jews were becoming much more hellenized/romanized.
@@philsphan4414 Usually our Apocryphal readings come from Wisdom. In a sermon about Sirach, we learned that it was used to instruct gentile newcomers to the faith in ethics.
@@karenspivey3203 The early church was a big fan of Sirach. It was sometimes called “Ecclesiasticus” for the reason that it was a “church book.” There is an English language Catholic Bible that actually predates the KJV by a tiny bit where it is called that. Too confusing given Ecclesiastes. That translation is very popular with the Catholic extreme right, but it is unreadable IMHO.
@@philsphan4414 The KJV also calls it that, and "Ecclus." appears in some of the Cambridge Cameo and Turquoise's cross-reference suites.
Would those books have this on the first page,
'This is a work of fiction.
Names,characters,events and incidents are the product of the author's imagination."?
Hi Dan, could you do a video on why the Orthodox and Catholic traditions have different number books?
Also, regards Judas making sacrifices for his soldiers...that sounds human empathy and desperation to me. People don't always operate on set/sound theological grounds especially when those concepts are still at least somewhat in flux as you've addressed in your other videos.
Yeah and especially seeing as it's Judas, the story could easily be there to show he didn't really understand or trust what Jesus was doing perhaps. Not endorsing that exegesis particularly but that's one of many ways to read it.
@@trapd00rspider Judas Maccabeus... who lead the "Maccabean Revolt" against the Seleucid Empire...
Born approximately 190 BC(E), Died approximately 160 BC(E). He kinda missed out on being a Disciple & Betrayer of Jesus, by about 190 Years.
@@trapd00rspiderNot Judas Iscariot--Judas Maccabeus. A good century and a half before Jesus or Iscariot were born.
I'd just like to point out that Anglicans include the Apocrypha in their bibles and it reflects the same canon as Eastern Orthodox Christians. Anglicans are generally lumped in with Protestants, so I thought I'd mention that, even though they're a 'middle way' between the two more or less.
The trusted word of God can be found in the inerrant Bible ... Christians just can't decide on which one.
1684? Is there something tenuous connection to Jansenism? In any case, the Catholic Bible contains 7 more books than the Protestant Bible and 1 less than the most commonly accepted Orthodox Bible.
Anglicans still read the Deutero-Canonical books, but as history only; no doctrine can be taken from the Deutero-Canonical books unless the doctrine can be found in the 66 books of the Old and/or New Testaments.
1 and 2 Esdras is also the alternative name for Ezra and Nehamiah, which makes things more confusing. If your bible only has 1 and 2 Esdras, but not Ezra and Nehemiah, you likely have the alternative name for Ezra and Nehemiah.
Good job.
I don’t know if you’re a Christian or if you’re an atheist Bible Scholar like Bart Ehrman, but you did a good job on this take down.
He's a Christian. Specifically a Mormon.
@@squiddwizzard8850 He’s a Mormon? Really? I can’t believe that.
@@squiddwizzard8850 Woooow; you’re right. LDS.
@@ArchangelsBookClub Bizarre, right? But yes, Mormons can and do engage in legitimate Biblical scholarship. Most end up discovering the falseness of Mormonism and leave, and often find the Bible itself is untenable and become agnostic and/or atheist. But some find ways to compartmentalize so completely that they never have to confront the internal conflicts of their various pieces of factual knowledge and religious beliefs.
@@fernlovebond Yeah; it's very weird. I don't know how you go from studying ancient texts and see evidence for every religion under the son on a textual basis, and learn about ancient languages, but then can't take that critical eye to the book of Mormon and see that it has no textual basis whatsoever, and reformed egyptian has never existed. It's bonkers to me. But maybe it's an issue of having family and not wanting to lose it. The Mormons have almost become their own race now, it's not just a religion, but a whole social structure. Hard to leave.
The Devil sure loves lies and confusion is part of his lies
You got me. The title seemed like something of value and instead, more of giving something air time that has no business receiving air time.
So, basically it's just like your reply.
But yet here you are.
@@Michael-le5ph 11 months? Intellectually stimulating
Have you done anything on why the catholic sect was chosen to lead the christian movement?
This is very amusing
The returned Christ Jesus will be reunited with his Biological Family on may 11th thru the 14th
and when this does not happen?
When you all discuss the bible you ignore the oldest bible in the world, the Ethiopian bible.
But by all means keep talking that way because we all know Dramatic Voice = Truth
It's a bot reading it though, most can tell that and it makes it seem more fake/satirical especially with the "wubba lubba dub dub" annotation at the beginning. I don't think that's a good way to start the conversation, even with Protestant anti-Catholic and anti-Orthodox bias, it's better just to slap all denominations with the truth directly.
The guys voice on the video being rebutted tells you everything you need to know about who the speaker thinks his audience is.
The Ethiopian bible is 800 years older than the KJV and has about 81 books in it FYI
... if they did; then i think they missed a few.
And the NIV is the most accurate?
LMAO on that one!
This one was a low hanging fruit, most Protestants in my country know about this 😉
I started watching the video they did remove pages from the book. They moved it because they thought it was worshiping the devil back then yes there are a few things I do know for a fact that was in it after a few research mentioned creatures that we are known to believe their myth. A few of them are dragons, leprechauns mermaids and unicorns. I’m just gonna tell you this they are not from Disney version. If you meet one if they are real, don’t pet it avoid it mostly the damn leprechaun. Those things are pranksters but if you piss it off, it will kill you in the most brutal way ever anyway they mentioned them in the Bible, but since they were dangerous creatures that haven’t been seen for centuries they decide to remove it from the Bible and they don’t exist before someone says I am wrong. I don’t know why I’m talking about. The whole book is about multiplying fish healing that are blind. I believe in God you believe that he with us right now. 50-50 do I believe in the Bible? somewhat but I do believe in are there are things we don’t know about this planet. We are not the top of the food chain there are creatures out there that we have not discovered yet and once that we haven’t seen in thousands of years that are known as myth gorillas were a myth as well
I don't understand why these videos (the ones like the one he is responding to) are even made. What's their goal?
Many videos in social media have one end goal: monetization through clicks. This one seems to fit.
@@gabitamiravideos Yep, this here. Clickbait gets money, and sensationalist claims of salacious history about hot-button topics like religion will help make that money.
Algormancy!
Oh what bullshit, the Catholic Church started with a 73 book canon and it’s still a 73 book canon.
If you're Catholic, don't think for a second that the Evangelicals consider themselves on your side. Think about that in November.
Bel and the Dragon? Did Tolkien write that?
Sounds more like a Disney take to be. Especially if we spell it Belle.
You seem very knowledgeable and intelligent I cannot believe the amount of time it probably took to gain this wisdom but I can't understand why you would feel it was so important the who what when and where of a fictitious story in the first place. God was created by a few dumb people refined and used by several smart to control masses of ignorant people.
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But the book of Enoch is not in the catholic bible…?
Never was. Only Ethiopian Orthodox and E.O. Tewahedo Christians ever considered it scriptural.
I'm admittedly ignorant of many of the finer details of Protestant history, but I never dreamed the ultimate reason the Deuterocanon/Apocrypha were finally excised from their Bible was "capitalism". In retrospect, I should have known. 😂
Did non-English speaking Protestant sects have an opinion on the Apocrypha?
If I hadn't known some of this stuff already, I would have seen a red flag when he went on about the change from I to J - doesn't know his history. Also Iesous is a transliteration of the greek. English people changed it to Jesus cos we're lazy and it's easier to say.
1John 5:7-8 , 7:53,8:11 and Mark 16:9-20 not in original koine Greek new testament . Look up Johanna Commeum debate went on for centuries in Christian councils.
"Virgin" in future tense added to Isaiah 7:14 in Hebrew .
KJV added "Easter" also.
Marcion first cannon excluded all of the Hebrew Scripture.
There are hundreds of variant versions of the Christian bibles none used match the original koine Greek new testament or Hebrew Scripture sources..
Verify that.
"Why did God create the Mormons " ?
So Christians would understand how Jews feel..
A Tovia clone : how cute! LOL 😆
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What gives someone the right to have there book in the bible? Did people just add a load of random stuff to the apparent word of God
NO, not 14... 11, there are 77 Books in the COMPLETE Bible
whose complete bible is it?
Protestants ignore the Catholic Church gave the Holy Bible to the world. They rewrote it after the Protestant reformation, deleted verses, chapters and changed wording to both the Holy Bible and The Ten Commandments Protestants ignore that Jesus Christ wants everyone to be His One True Apostolic Catholic (Universal) Church.
John 10:16 And I have other sheep that are not of this fold, and I must lead them. They shall hear my voice, and there shall be one sheepfold and one shepherd.
John 17:20 But I am not praying for them only, but also for those who through their word shall believe in me.
John 17:21 So may they all be one. Just as you, Father, are in me, and I am in you, so also may they be one in us: so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
John 17:22 And the glory that you have given to me, I have given to them, so that they may be one, just as we also are one.
John 17:23 I am in them, and you are in me. So may they be perfected as one. And may the world know that you have sent me and that you have loved them, just as you have also loved me.
John 17:24 Father, I will that where I am, those whom you have given to me may also be with me, so that they may see my glory which you have given to me. For you loved me before the founding of the world.
Ephesians 4:4 One body and one Spirit: to this you have been called by the one hope of your calling:
Ephesians 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all, and through all, and in us all.
In fact, He taught those who don’t stay in His doctrine, He set in His Church, don’t have Him.
2 John 1:9 Everyone who withdraws and does not remain in the doctrine of Christ, does not have God. Whoever remains in the doctrine, such a one as this has both the Father and the Son.
Hebrews 13:9 Do not be led away by changing or strange doctrines. And it is best for the heart to be sustained by grace, not by foods. For the latter have not been as useful to those who walked by them.
Galatians 1:7 For there is no other, except that there are some persons who disturb you and who want to overturn the Gospel of Christ.
Galatians 1:8 But if anyone, even we ourselves or an Angel from Heaven, were to preach to you a gospel other than the one that we have preached to you, let him be anathema.
Galatians 1:9 Just as we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone has preached a gospel to you, other than that which you have received, let him be anathema.
Jews don't recognize Jesus. Protestants don't recognize the Pope. Baptist don't recognize anyone in the liquor store.
The anti-catholic rhetoric has very Seveth Day Adventist flair. They go hard when it comes to Catholic Conspiracy Theories. Also something feels off like the spelling of Vatican. And the "I no speak good Engrush so me make robot voice for I."
Who doesn't like a good conspiracy? I know I like to take a ride on the crazy train every now and then, just for fun.
The Catholic's (easy target) ... Whatever ... 🙄 Thank god it wasn't the Baptist's ... 😂
The voice is AI so maybe the content is too? Seems like a weird lie, but a very normal day for AI hallucinations.
No, there are plenty of conspiracy-minded Christians who say this kind of mess on a regular basis.
Stuff should be better researched and studied before just posting it online with a host of errors and lies.
Honestly, it sounds like you are trying to speak sense to a click-baity reel that was written by A.I. I wouldn’t doubt it, with all its contradictions.
No final determination of the Catholic canon was made before Trent, and the Church definitively excluded certain deuterocanonicals at that time. The Clementine Vulgate also contained many books which would ultimately be rejected by Trent, 3/4 Esdras, Prayer of Manasseh, etc.
The Vulgate and Trent also included Baruch, which the council of Rome initially rejected, and the West seems to have nearly always rejected the Shepherd of Hermas, in spite of it being included in Sinaiticus. There is no static canon before Trent.
The Council of Trent wasn't in 1684 though and it didn't exclude any of the books mentioned. So the video is still 100% horseshit.
@@mjr_schneider Both videos are in error.
Off topic, but how can you be both a catholic and a perennialist? That's fascinating
@@jojones4685 Easy. By being a raging heretic.
The Prayer of Manasseh isn't a book. It's a short Greek prayer sometimes included at the end of Chronicles and sometimes included in an Appendix.
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
why are you here?
IDK
What is your proof that no books got took out of the Bible?
NO.
Humans *really* need to learn the Catholic Church ⭕⛪ is not a nigh omnipotent entity that can pull off schemes like this.
Also, its leaders are not fanatics who will put themselves through ridiculous amounts of strife just to slightly improve the reach of their religion 🗄.
It is amazing how the Catholic Church is considered by many to be the benchmark of religion. Especially religious malfeasance. Still, there’s always this amazing quote.
There are not 100 people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.
Fulton J. Sheen
@@Midoran3500 There are many that hate the Catholic Church ⭕⛪ for what it is.
There are many who hate the *concept* of a Catholic Church ⭕⛪, let alone anything it did.
Considering the whole have a church be holy itself and make de facto scripture itself through dogma thing. And automatically deny the validity of any church that does not join it.
They will, however, put entire continents through ridiculous amounts of strife just to slightly improve the reach of their religion
@@Midoran3500 Oh, no, many of us hate the Catholic church for its actual history, its current practices/policies, and even its theological positions. But then, I feel similarly about all religion; the Catholics are just the largest, oldest and most egregious example.
@@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana protestants do the same thing.
"A light revision" that took 7 years to complete? I think your information is a bit skewed. 54 translators were not chosen to do a light revision. Tyndale's NT, with the work of Desiderius Erasmus, along with the Latin Vulgate and Martin Luther's German translation. The 1611 translation committee also consulted several other Byzantine Greek sources, along with the Old Testament Masoretic text. Your argument is based upon faulty information.
where are YOUR credentials? He has a lot. please don't say you know more because the spirit told you stuff.
If religion and spirituality were based strictly on history, facts, and evidence . . . it would be science!
You are arguing over nothing more than the artistic license of literature and philosophy, both of which are rooted in narrative opinion, and neither of which rest on a foundation of empirical data or truth.
Are you are ALL crazy?
I think its only important what people read today. The vatican having some secret book that nobody reads is not as important as what everyone reads. How can the bible be the most widely printed book if there are so many versions of it? Sounds like different books then. Also no mention of the Book of Enoch and the dead sea scrolls that got left out of the bible. Its the omissions that are interesting.
“The Dead Sea Scrolls” largely match the modern canon.
@@hithere4719 the Dead Sea Scrolls/books were from the Librarry of Alexandria that survived. The bible was created from these books that were once in a library. So its just Constantines collection of his favourite books from a library. How can you say 72 books is the same as an entire library?
@@Gaia_Project did you go to Joe Rogan’s Online Seminary?
@@hithere4719 Joe Rogan is not religious. So not sure what you are talking about.
@@Gaia_Project not sure where you got your knowledge but you are wrong here.
Bible say 3 and 7 good numbers.
Bible say 6 bad number.
73 books is good Bible.
66 books is bad Bible.
Please tell me this is meant to be a trolling joke. Numerology? And not even sophisticated nonsense, just dumb brute nonsense? You can't possibly believe this kind of foolishness.
@@fernlovebond - it is intended to show the folly of all religious claims.
People actually believe things not much different than this due to confirmation bias. Look at the various interpretations of Revelation. And there are still people that defend Ron Wyatt.
Book Worship is idolatry. It's your God you should be worshiping .
You have the same to access god or gods as any author of any holy book.
Reading stories of the god experiences of others could be reading lies, results of mental illness or fictions to support the church they want you to join and support.
If a God is real, you should be able to verify that presence yourself. Don't be led by others or by their stories.
Be willing to fail in your pursuit of your god. The World is more accessible now than it has ever been.
I embarked on my god quest about 60 years ago. I've been keeping an eye open for God evers since. No ill effects but I did caused a traffic accident about 35 years ago (no injuries), I pay my taxes, no murders, assaults or Handicap Zone violations to report, still got the same wife 58 years... no gods.... so far.
For someone claiming to be godless, you seem inordinately concerned with "idolatry" (a problem which shouldn't exist for a godless person), and belief in one. Get over yourself: you aren't an authority on supernatural beings, and you don't get to declare for anyone but yourself what "should" be done about their beliefs.
@Fem Lovebond I may, from time to time, use the word 'murder.' I know what the word means and that others practice it but I don't.
As an outsider, I notice Christian talk about Bible more than they do about the details of their "personal relationship" with God. It's not a Golden Calf-like idol but that's how it appears to me. As for what I can and cannot declare, that's entirely up to me. If you're into idolatry... go for it... worship any book that appeals to you. And I'll comment accordingly when I please.
The Apocrypha was removed from the canon because it is pseudepigrapha. These books are not Theopneustos. Therefore, they are not trustworthy. The 66 books of the Bible are complete, with the scarlet thread of redemption running through each book of the Bible. There is no need for these false writings to be added to the text of scripture.
Go into town. Find a Catholic bookstore. Or even a Catholic church. Enter it. Go to the section marked "bibles". Look for a New Jerusalem bible. Count the number of books.
Plus - here's a shocker - none of the Gospels were written by apostles and several of the Pauline epistles are 'pseudopigrapha'.
Go into town. Find a Catholic bookstore. Or even a Catholic church. Enter it. Go to the section marked "bibles". Look for a New Jerusalem bible. Count the number of books.
Plus - here's a shocker - none of the Gospels were written by apostles and several of the Pauline epistles are 'pseudopigrapha'.
@@StevenWaling
If you are serious, I will simply say, I am praying for you. If you believe all that foolishness you just typed out to me, you need to be born again. As for your education, I hope you did not pay for it.
@@Pastor-Brettbyfaith It is true the the gospels were anonymous and several of Paul's epistles were not written by Paul. That is not even up for debate. We've know this for a LONG time.
@Michael-le5ph
While many have followed Calvin and Luther, Sproul and MacArthur; I have studied and followed Paul. Besides Jesus himself, Paul is my hero in the faith. I can also make a case for Pauline authority in Hebrews. If you are serious about your thoughts on Pauline authority, I shall not waste time. You must be born again before attempting interpretation of scripture. For you to mention such foolishness is abominable. The word of God is clear. It is Theopneustos! God Breathed and perfectly translated to us today. But understanding comes only through the Holy Spirit of God. 1Cor. 1-2. Only a Spirit filled believer can comprehend the spiritual truth within. Oh yes, those would be the words of Paul. Your lack of faith is evident in your secular understanding. I pray God's best for you. "...Repent and be baptized every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Acts 2:38
To question the scripture is evidence of your spirit. The Lord rebuke you.
why talk more than the video let us hear what it say damn!
The trinity is three gods.
But it's common knowledge from multiple sources, way back before the USA became polarized, that the Bible omitted many texts its Catholic hierarchy considered to be heretical.
So when you say this and that is nonsense, why should I just believe what you say?
If it's "common knowledge", do be so good as to provide some EVIDENCE of your assertions, for why else should we believe what YOU say?
Pick up a Bible in a Catholic Church and look through it. Count the number of books.
The texts you may be referring to are gospels and letters circulating before the 2nd century CE. If so, you are correct, the Church rejected many of them. Most were rejected because they were not written early enough, some were rejected because they had some weird stuff that just didn't sound right, like talking crosses. A fascinating history, but way before this 17th century time period.
I saw what you did there. It's okay.
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