I'm DONE with Big Adventure Bikes...Sorta.
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Ride safe, seek adventure, and keep your wheels rolling in the right direction! right direction!
I originally bought my Tiger 900 thinking I would be able to do the WA BDR on it. At my age and skill level, it was impossible for me. I hurt for WEEKS after doing one section. Picking that bike up over and over was not in my category of fun at all. It’s a great bike for exactly what you said - highway to the location and then gravel / dirt roads while there. So that is how I have been using it. Since I already own it and have it all kitted I will probably keep in a few more years. But I don’t see myself buying another big adventure bike. I did also buy a bagger, and it is fantastic for long distance rides. But when I just want to rip around town its not the best bike for that.
I think everyone needs to decide what the types of rides they want to do, and then get the bike that works for them. Every bike is an adventure bike depending on what you call adventure. Hope all is well, sorry life has thrown you a curve.
Thanks, Jason! That Indian Challenger looks fun to ride.
Always a compromise with motorcycles. I wanted to reduce weight so i sold my Goldwing and got a large Adventure bike, so the comfort is there relatively speaking and i lost 300 pounds in the process. A compromise all around. Great video.
Oh, man! You got the 1250 GSA! You loving it? I’m headed to your channel now to watch the video on why you chose it over the AT. 👍
@@GreatEgret It’s my 3rd GSA over the course of 18 years. Always seem to comeback to that large street biased ADV. Motorcycle life is just full of compromises😀.
Living in the Rockies made me rethink this. I had a Himalayan and I did love that bike but getting to a lot of the trails to ride was such a pain so I went with a more medium bike in a BMW 750gs and am happy. I don't do single track or anything super technical but have taken it on the same routes as the Himalayan and it performed great.
I’m really not being fair in this video by entirely excluding middleweight bikes from the discussion. I had high hopes for the TransAlp before they released all the info on it last November at EICMA. I may look at getting a T7 all for the same reasons you mentioned here.
@@GreatEgret yea if I wasn't vertically challenged I would have gone for a 850gs, T7, Toureg, or Desert x for sure. The new vstrom looks good too.
Great E calls it correct..as a life long rider i use the right tool (bike) for the intended job (ride) if the ride is mainly dirt fire roads I use my DR650 (366 lbs) ..if the rides street I use my vstrom 1000xt. yes it requires multiple bikes :0)
I agree Joe. My ADV bike is the 2006 KLR650. It does about anything I ask, is ridiculous as it's simplicity and a huge online community to support. I am still a Sportster fan for the exact same reasons. Smaller displacement, weight and simple design.
Good to hear from you, take care.
Man, I’m kinda wanting a KLR650 every time I see you comment about it. What are your thoughts on the latest generation with fuel injection?
I've heard it's pretty good. Haven't rode one to test it. There is a model that comes with side cases, LED spot lights standard. They are value priced as well. I put 1" lowering links on the shock, and slid the forks up 1" in the triple trees. Just to make it a bit easier to get both feet down. KLR is a good 70% road-30% off road bike. Wish I was riding it on the roads on this video! Oh..6 gallon gas tank a plus too.
Im with Don Henderson.
I have a 2022 PAS for asphalt only a 1200 solo seat Sportster for back road excursions.
For our wide trails and fire roads an 03 KLR 650.
Its my second KLR and I absolutely love it.
If I could have only one bike it would be a KLR 650.
Carbed thank you.
Good to see you back out and uploading, and for iff road smaller is usually better, unless you plan on covering a few miles between trails then a 300/400 is ok but you dont need a litre bike off road
100% agree.
Good points made. There’s no wrong or right on bike size, you do you. What ever floats your boat. Enjoy the ride and to take a hikers term, “Ride your own ride…”
Love it, man! Exactly!
I totally agree man! For off road I would want something very light, that isn't going to loop out from under me every time I twist the throttle.
Big bikes are VERY expensive these days anyway. I ride a sport bike, but I still want a smaller ADV bike and a cruiser in my garage.
Saw your comment on The Gorilla Bikers video. Figured I'd come check out your channel. Glad I did. Subbed 👍
That’s for coming by, leaving a really great comment, and for subscribing! What sport bike are you riding? Keep me posted on what adv or cruiser bikes you are looking at or may get.
@@GreatEgret I ride a 2021 CBR 1000RR.
It's going to be awhile before I can get any kind of bike. My wife started riding last year so we got her a Rebel 500. She is really loving it!! Except when she ( accidentally ) pops up in my videos!!😂
You are absolutely right: Big bikes can be hard to handle. But I still like big bikes. People laugh at me riding my big tank. I don’t think it matters what you ride so long as you ride. For me, I like anything that has two wheels and an engine.
To be honest, I have been looking at the 300 Rally as well. I heard it’s a fun bike. Ride safe y’all.
Let’s get together soon so you can ride my 300L.
Bike prices are ridiculous in the modern world. You'd have paid less than $1K for a Honda 250 on in the 70's. I bought a new 1975 Suzuki TS185 in 1977 for $650 and a new Suzuki GS1000 for $3200 in 1979.
The law of diminishing returns definitely applies to bike sizes. There's a penalty to pay in weight and price for a little more power and a few more gadgets.
I never say never to owning a big bike with gadgets again, but all my current bikes are gadget free and I’m really enjoying that…for now 😎
The only advantage a big monster of adventure bike has over a small one is comfort. I have traveled the Western US on a small Ninja 650R and Beta 498 dual sport. As well as my Yamaha Super Tenere. As I age it is Super Tenere all day long!! For long road trips with smooth fire roads thrown in there is not much better for comfort in the saddle. If I'm going to get into some rough tracks on the way then I pull out my Beta and suffer the long miles of getting ping ponged on the freeway.
I own a yamaha super tenere, we just got back from south dakota to Missouri. In one day we done 730 miles. We done a lot of gravel and fire roads. They are great machines for long distance and exploring......ext
If they want to do technical riding, there's motocross and light dual sport that you have to put on the back of the truck or van to take it through the interstates and the busy hyw......
Despite the "small bike" travels I had when I started this channel, I can't agree with you more about comfort as I age. I really love the Africa Twin and there will be another in my stable at some point for the same reasons you have your Super Tenere. The trailhead for the T.W.A.T. is about an hour from me. Not too much suffering on the CRF300L, but worth it once the adventure begins on the trail.
I love big adventure bikes. Great seating position, comfortable, fast, can cover a lot of miles, perfect for the occasional forest road, and just fun to ride. The price is high but I just gotta have one. I also love smaller bikes, but where I live I have to go on freeways to get anywhere and so big bikes are better for that, but if I lived in the country I'd definitely add a smaller bike to the small fleet.
I love ‘em for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I’ll likely have a another in my stable again by next spring. Likely the 2021 AT I badly miss. About nine months ago you were missing your 2017 AT. What adv bike are you riding now?
@@GreatEgret I have a 2020 AT. It's just a really fun bike to ride, even though it barely sees any dirt, I like tearing around town on it. I'm trying to resist the urge to buy a BMW 1250GS. Never had one and want to experience the big boxer engine.
I did own a honda crf300l great light bike but got sick of not much power and the bike always screaming its lungs out so i replaced it with a KTM690 same weight and plenty of power, and before anyone comments about reliability it has been very reliable and puts a big smile on my face.
I read your comment on getting sick of the power the day this video cam out and it's been rattling around in my brain since. As long a bike keeps putting a smile on your face, you know you have the right bike!
Ha! I freaking love adapative cruise lol....
Kind of surprised you sold the Pan America for a big loss I saw in your other comment section. I looked around I didn't see the comparison to the BMW...
Anyways right on brother looking forward to more your off-road adventures
Yeah, I’m really sorry I never did that comparison video. Life got in the way these last six months. I have enough footage I think I can still do it. Thanks for sticking around, man!
I have a Streetglide ST and a Lowrider ST. I just picked up a 2022 883 Iron. And like it.
I’m pretty sure you have the cruiser trifecta! Amazing group of bikes.
You make that bike look fun…I am going to sell my Indian Scout soon. Trying to decide what is next. Not interested in a big bike or the expense of it. Always enjoy your videos.
Thanks, man!! What type of riding are you looking to do after you sell the Scout? Still a cruiser or something completely different?
I am thinking a small bike like you have…the ability to go off road, not single track, and street.
Seriously thinking about downsizing to a Triumph T120 or Speedster. I get it. Good to see you Joe
Good to see you here too, Rob. I hope the heat isn’t keeping you from riding too much. Before buying my Sportster as my first bike in 2017, I almost bought a Bonneville. I wonder how differently this channel would be? Maybe not much, I hope.
@@GreatEgret …. It’s been miserable and my riding has been minimal. I actually got stranded just north of El Paso over July 4th weekend on the GoldWing. I posted a few videos of that debacle. I believe it was heat related. The Bonny is a beautiful bike. The more I see them the more I love them. Went to the dealership last week to try on on for size 🤔
I currently have a Goldwing and an Africa Twin Adv Sports, both DCT. And while taking a good look at my Wing, it was a goal fulfilled from many years ago, but I like the seating position of my AT more even though it is taller (my AT has been lowered with springs). I’m in the process of downsizing my Wing, maybe back to a V-Twin this time around. The Wing is kind of too much tech (and some is not and has not ever worked the right way). Smaller is better a little better in a lot of cases.
What year is your AT? Honda is really leaning into the technology. The 2024 AT will have adaptive cruise control. I’d be interested if you can get a base model without ACC. Like you, the tech keeps me away from some of the bigger bikes.
@@GreatEgret My AT is a 2022 Adventure Sports DCT, and I just put lowering springs on which has it at the right height for me, and I still owe $ 15,500 on it, it’s way upside down in that respect. I have the pink on my Wing, so I’m more inclined to see what that will get me while moving to something else.
@@johnanderson9735 I was upside down on my Pan America 1250 until I paid it down enough to be able to sell it. I fed for you on that. The PA made me miss the AT. It’s awesome that you got your AT at the hight you need. I love that bike!
After riding the 300 crf rally, what do you think about the suspension and have you looked at the Kawasaki 300 dual sport or super moto?
The suspension is definitely too soft. I’m 155, 160 if I ate too many donuts, and the rear suspension squats considerably while I ride and bottoms out on the smallest of of bumps. I’m going to see how it is on a multi-day trip before deciding if I’ll swap it out.
The 2nd bike I want to get the most is the Versys650. It's performance as a tall but Small bike would match my harley fat boy, but it offers a little bit different choices of roads to go ride.
I would love if SSA would allow me to own a 2nd bike tho, haha thats the biggest problem.
Hey! Good to see you here! I didn’t realize the SSA could limit the number of bikes you own. I don’t know how all that works, though. Do they limit the number of cars you can own or bicycles? Seems a bit restrictive.
@@GreatEgretThe limitation is 1 vehicle any value, and then any other vehicle must be worth 2000$ or less.
A value set in like 1977 :/
It has never been updated.
I wont give up my Fat Boy for anohter bike, and its probably unrealistic to find any other motorcycle worth less than 2 grand these days unless its an old unreliable beater of a bike.
so yeah im basically restricted to 1 vehicle :<
SSA does not reflect what disabled people really need or allow them to do anything really much that abled people can and its very irritating because we didnt choose this crap it just hapened to us, but people wont support us so the laws never change to reflect current economy standards.
If it was adjusted for inflation it'd be 11,000$ instead of 2000$ :/
I could get a versys650 as a 2nd bike at that limitation.
Bikes have been a huge positive for my mental health.
That’s so lame to keep the same value set 46 years ago!! Every time I take a break from motorcycling, my mental health suffers. Not just because I’m not riding, but also because I miss the intangibles like camaraderie and the boost in confidence motorcycling riding and wrenching gives me goes away too.
Personally, I never saw the point of adventure bikes. They are too big and heavy for technical work off road unless you're an accomplished dirt rider. In which case, being an accomplished dirt rider, I can say that there are not many road bikes that can't go down gravel roads anyway. You're probably not going to ride standing on the pegs, but you could with a change of handle bars. Obviously, I am not including crotch rockets in this analysis, but I have driven them on gravel as well. Crotch rockers are not a good choice for an everyday motorcycle also. An adventure bike would be a better choice. All this being said, take any universal Japanese motorcycle from the 1970's and you have a machine that can be made adventure bike enough or crotch rockety enough to satisfy almost an rider. Bring back motorcycle freedom. Bring back the UJM in a form factor everyone can afford.
I once took a Sportster offroad. In the dirt in Okalhoma and in the sand in New Mexico. Could it handle it? Yes, buut Barely. Was it smart to do that? Maybe not and I broke the ABS wire in Oklahoma. Was it fun? Hell, yeah! And I'd do it again! Completely agree with you about UJMs. Reliable and versitle.
I gave up because i was sick of not being able to put me feet safely on the ground.
What big adventure bike were you riding and what are you riding now?
I started on a small bike, I currently ride a "small" bike and I'll probably keep riding small bikes 🙂. I have been eyeballing the CB500x as my touring/ adventure bike, Whenever I get to a point I can afford a second bike that is. But I will admit the CRF 300L rally has been on that radar too.
When I had my rebel 300, which I believe is the same engine as the CRF300, I rode down the Kansas 400 at 75 mph for most of the day.
What type of riding would you use the CB500X for? It was the “baby Africa Twin” until the TransAlp 750 came out. Though it’s doubtful that it will be available in the US until early 2025. Not in any large numbers anyway.
@@GreatEgretlong distance riding, light off-roading, a little more spirited riding in the twisties 🙂 sporties don't have that great of a lean angle lol and my exhaust says no when I tried to lean too far to the right XD
I’ve been there with my Sporty 😂
I'm with you, small bike for life!
I think you’ve always had the right idea about bike size. Especially since you moved to Thailand. I’m not sure a ginormous adventure bike would be much fun to ride in Bangkok.
@@GreatEgret It def would not be, no one wants to be stuck in Bangkok traffic, in the crazy heat and humidity sitting on 1000cc. My 155cc Underbone is hot enough. lol
I almost bought an Africa Twin earlier this year but when I realized it would be something I maybe get to ride 3 times a year makes no sense.
I have been eyeing that same model CRF Rally tho, that seems like the perfect bike to get out of town and on the dirt with. I used to have a CRF 250 back in the day but gave it to my buddy who lives up in Chiangmai where I knew he would get more use out of it in the mountains. There may very well be one in my future tho.
My "Girl Crush" is the Himalayan. I see someone made a comment about it. I got to test ride one finally last week. Only on pavement tho #SadTrombone Mark @bikerbits called it a explorer bike. Much like your model too. His daily off roader is a DR650. He and "Angus" aka Alistar started up a podcast. He is primarally a off road trail rider. If you have never checked him out you should. He actually recently adventurized a Himie and gave it away.
You and i kinda live in a similar geographical region. That has equal amount of road twisties for cruizers. And im only a hour away from decent dirt elevated twisties. Which makes me yearn for a bike like a Himmie for a different experiece. But as you say, multiple bike on a single income. Are very cash strapping.
In 2018, on my Route 66 trip, I was hanging out with D-Cycle in Alton, IL and saw a Himalayan in the parking lot of a brewery we went to. It was the first one I saw in the wild. I’m impressed by the cost per smile with that bike.
@@GreatEgret Ya my second crush is the Honda Trail 125. I walked I to the Toronto motorcycle show. Looking to sit on a Himmie. Saw the Honda both. Made a comment about when the Trail was coming to Canada. The rep says...it's right over there.
My heart fluttered. I reached for my wallet. #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney til I saw the price tag. The cost was the near same as a Himmie.
Dang.
But I straddled them both.
:)
Solve the turn signal problem on dual sports: Take them off.
Ha! Great tip!
@@GreatEgret It helps avoid additional expenses and helps with resale value. The biggest problem will probably be: Is there anyone left on the planet that understands what a rider is doing with left and right hand signals while turning. 🙂
Do you still have the 883?
I do! Went on a great ride on it yesterday with my friend @Vetter
so you're getting a drz-400?
One can never have too many bikes! I'd also take that CJ5 you have!
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Rock on, brother! It's nice to see your comments like this after I take long hiatues.
Up your skill set. Take a off-road training course.
Damn good idea.
I chose to ride bikes that are considered uncool. Theres your problem. Get rid of those people that consider your bike uncool
Nah, I didn’t say in this video those people bothered me. Let them think what they want. So no problem here. The point was that some riders would consider small bikes uncool or not roadworthy and I explained in the video how that’s not the case.