Just bought a pair of these for my ATAS. Good quality for the price & not as flimsy as some seem to think. The 2 big advantages for me are (1) that they are designed by Honda to be bike specific & so fit perfectly and (2)yes,they are side opening which has its down side but the left side holds a full face helmet to lock & leave. You won't find a top loader that will do that.
Love mine amd I alao got a deal upon bike purchase. For any seriius off road they come off and are secured in a safe place. They give me no worries simplicity with 70 liters (a claimed 40 and 30) storage. And, that nelson rigg bag..... i took it off my previous bike and zip tied it to an altrider luggage rack which i absolutely love.
Great video! very informative. I bought the OEM Panniers for my Adventure Sports 2018 and have spent the last week scouring the internet to see if there's an OEM Top Box to match! I bought the plate 08L70-MKK-D00 (from teh Adventure Sports brochure) but see from the M&P website that is doesn't fit the Adventure Sports model!
Yep, OEM panniers don't leave any ugly pannier frames behind when they're off the bike. But those pannier frames also double as crash guards when bags aren't mounted on them and they provide great bungee points.for strapping down gear to your passenger seat.
The panniers aren't bad. I have these, and i also have the GIVI frames. The givi frames are more sturdy and support all kind of standard panniers. They also protect the bike in case it goes down.
I wish I had bought those instead of what I got, I still plan on getting a set, thank you so much for sharing and I hope you have a blessed week. Keep up the fun videos buddy.
+Heartland Dual Sport Your welcome ! I’m purdy happy with them, I really don’t have any complaints, they work great and are extremely easy to remove. I only put them on when I need them.
I've just bought an Africa Twin (2016) last year in November and it has the OEM side cases. They look pretty good except one thing...the fact that they open on a side is a disadvantage. My former bike, a Yamaha Tenere XT660Z (2011) had side cases that open at the top and the key lock was at a side, so i could improvise a system on top of the lid and i could attach drybags for more storage room, thing which can't be done in this case. And yes...i also hate the look of the empty rack bars and i don't want to add that stuff to my bike. Guess i'll just buy a huge 52L top case to compensate the small right side case and hope i can get everything in. Traveling 2 up for 2-3 weeks is not easy when it comes to packing stuff :))). Great informative clip! Have a great day!
These panniers look great and are a great price, but unfortunately not the pannier for real touring and multiple terrains. I know the other brands are expensive but they are made for the job in hand, they also hold there second hand value very well if you choose to sell them at a later date.
Interesting because every other opinion I read on these honda panniers are quite the opposite. Expensive, wobbling and delicate. Plastic on Givi trekker for instance is twice as thick. BTW mounting racks are good because serve as crash bars as well.
+Robson Enduro I say for the riding I have done they have held up find. They are not tough as the others no but they don’t cost as much. I’m happy with them for what I do.
From experience, however good looking these panniers may be, they are not solid at all and the right pannier has a design defect. On a very simple tip over in the parking lot, my right pannier cracked open on the bottom right corner where the impact happened. I had to use some epoxy to repair it but look is gone. More importantly, the latching started to loosen up after a few hundred miles of off-roading or heaving shaking. It is an issue widely reported in the Africa Twin blogs. These panniers were able to protect the bike though, but they couldn't save themselves. The other issue is you cannot buy a single pannier, they sell them in pairs. My advice is to invest in another more solid pannier brand or soft panniers.
Bought two of these bikes with complete Honda luggage. Unfortunately one fell over and broke the side pannier top clip on one side. Honda (via our dealer) tells me you can only buy the whole side pannier set at a cost of over NZD 1,000 - no parts or no single side replacements. Will not buy this luggage again. Givi allow you to buy any small part to repair their luggage. Why can't Honda follow suit?
Last few months, Honda has been giving these (plus top box, centerstand and heated grips) away with all new bikes, at least over here. Three main issues with them: They are not particularly stable compared to rackmounted panniers. This may or may not be a real problem, but it sure was annoying as soon as the track surface got a bit rough. They are fragile. The plastic will crack on a minor impact with an unlucky angle, and it will rip off either one of the top mounts (the hooks) and/or the hinge at the bottom (cracking the plastic). It may also crack the painted plastic panel surrounding the top mounts on the bike (been there, done that, got the t-shirt). And Honda won’t sell you the top mounts despite them being separate parts from what I can tell. Third - it opens outwards. Which means you cant pack smaller items in any useful quantity, in particular in the left pannier, as this will empty itself into the lid when on the sidestand. They should have made them with top loading. The three good things are the price, the fact that you don’t need a rack, and the weight - being mostly plastic. I’ve done 2000km off- and onroad with the originals on a rental AT I used for a trip abroad, then opted for the sw motech trax adv with quick-removable rack on my own.
+Hallvard Opheim Yes I do with they would open from the top for sure, they work ok for me and for the price. I haven’t cracked mine but I haven’t crashed and I hope I don’t. If I go on a trip and go off road, I leave them at the camp. I only put mine in when I take a bigger trip so not to often.
Nice bags, I just got a Africa Twin this weekend and love it. I still have my 250L, but I think I'm going to sale it. Just don't think it worth having two bike seating around, I'm just not in any hurry to ditch the 250 L fast lol there great bikes.
After going through two sets of these, we confirm they are absolute rubbish. Besides the nice initial fit with the frame and the main key, not only will they break as soon as you tip your bike in a parking lot or dirt (and you will), but the locking mechanism breaks immediately and they become loose. Invest in aftermarket.
dang, it has been a year already????? woooooowwwwwwww. that went by wayyyyyyyy too fast! I can vouch for the old Pelican 1550 series cases that were on my Vstrom. 50 mph into a ditch and they held up with hardly much more than a scratch.
To be fair they do work and fit well and are easy . However you drop the bike and the plastic fixing point is breaking. They are great but not for a long adventure, expedition where you might drop the bike . Bear in mind the plastic fixing point can not be fixed . I crossed Africa and dropped the bike ( not crashed ) both sides . Both broke at the same plastic fixing hook . Headache , needed to weld metal hooks and plates and botch the panniers up . Anywhere other than Africa you would be screwed .
In many cases the honda paniers pop off in a crash and escape with minor scuffs. I've been thinking of getting some for the quick connect functionality but can't justify the cost where my mosko bags do just fine and only really take 30 seconds to remove anyway.
I am planning on purchasing the white 2017 Africa Twin tonight. I went into the dealership last night to take a look at it and sit on it to make sure it would be comfortable enough for long rides. I really like this bike and everything about it, until I looked at the maximum load capacity of 392 pounds. I am purchasing this motorcycle to be able to take my fiancé for day trips since I live close to Yosemite National Park. The issue here is that our combined weight is 430 pounds, so I was wondering if you knew if the motorcycle would be able to handle that? I am 6'5" and 235 pounds. She is 6'0" and 195 pounds. Large people...... Lol.
+Steven DeMoss oh yea ! That is just what they say my wife and I are close to that and it’s no problem at all, including our luggage. They just have to say that for all Motorcycles. The AT has a ton of power and does great 2 up
Just bought a 2017 model. It came with the panniers which are great for oem. I like your seat, the stock seat is making my arse numb after a couple of hours. Any recommendations please? Thanks.
Thanks for the review, just ordered some. Curious about the Bag you have on the back. Why did you go with that one as opposed to the top case that Honda offers?
Nevermind. I'm not going to pay $150 for the case, another $100 for a lock when it should've been included in the build of the case, and another $50 for the mount. I'll look for another one :)
I’m not sure if any other way to do it. The holes will be there. Best way is to get the Factory lock because they match the Motorcycle key. But don’t have the shop put them in they charge way to much, just take them to a local lock Smith like it did, cost me $20 to have them put in.
I have been looking at these panniers as well. But I realized that the auxiliary gas tank that I’m going to be getting won’t fit unless I go for a pannier system that has the bars. The bars may be ugly as you said, but when the panniers are off it seems to me that in a fall they will act as another safety element. Have you watched Long Way round? There was an incident of the someone hitting the back of the bike and the panniers actually saved the car from hitting the back tire more then it initially did. Could the original pannier system take that kind of accident and prevent an even bigger accident? Don’t know and wouldn’t want to find out either. But thank you for all your videos!! To my wife’s dismay, I have been watching them with great enthusiasm. God Bless!
I like that factory panniers for the price most of all. I also like how they can be removed easily. I don’t leave the way they open from the side however. It’s hard to load them because you have to hold things in place when you try to close the door. I would like to have some that open from the top,
These work great until you drop the bike, then the latch takes the brunt of the fall and then the case nevers locks well to the bike again. They are not waterproof entirely or that well built - kinda flimsy. Buuuuuut they are really clever, cheap and very useful.
+Nick Charlton I have dropped mine maybe 3 times and all is well, I didn’t crash, just fell over ! I have rode a lot of miles and they have stayed dry inside so far. They do work but not even close to being as well built as some of the other aftermarket panniers out there. If I got aftermarket panniers and I have no plans of it, they would need to be quick detach for the ugly bars lol
I don't understand your remark of the usual Honda quality. i think these panniers are of a very dubious quality and not worthy of Honda. Especially the locks are of a very poor quality, the side openings are downright bad and also very impractical. Fortunately I did not buy them because I had a good look at them beforehand and I recommend aluminum cases and soft bags. These may be more expensive but will definitely last longer.
No offense but that seat doesn’t match that bike at all. Looks exactly like a seat I had on a 79 Kawasaki Z1 900. I guess it’s comfy which is the main thing but geez that diamond tuck seat looks like something from a 80 s goldwing not the coolest adventure bike on the market. What’s the deal seatconcepts surely has a comfy one that isn’t so fugly??? Sorry bike is awesome great. Fantastic not negative Nellie seat just weird to me....
Thank you, love the "bar-less" look with panniers removed. Good review.
That is one thing nice about Honda panniers
Good review. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watchin
Thanks. Exactly what I needed. You sold me on these.
Just bought a pair of these for my ATAS. Good quality for the price & not as flimsy as some seem to think. The 2 big advantages for me are (1) that they are designed by Honda to be bike specific & so fit perfectly and (2)yes,they are side opening which has its down side but the left side holds a full face helmet to lock & leave. You won't find a top loader that will do that.
Yea holding a helmet is handy
Great review, they fit much better than aftermarket panniers
Love mine amd I alao got a deal upon bike purchase. For any seriius off road they come off and are secured in a safe place. They give me no worries simplicity with 70 liters (a claimed 40 and 30) storage. And, that nelson rigg bag..... i took it off my previous bike and zip tied it to an altrider luggage rack which i absolutely love.
+Clarence Duff Yea I think for the price and ease of use, they are great.
Great video! very informative. I bought the OEM Panniers for my Adventure Sports 2018 and have spent the last week scouring the internet to see if there's an OEM Top Box to match! I bought the plate 08L70-MKK-D00 (from teh Adventure Sports brochure) but see from the M&P website that is doesn't fit the Adventure Sports model!
So it must be a different bolt pattern for yours then. I didnt have the top box but I would think it could be made to fit
Yep, OEM panniers don't leave any ugly pannier frames behind when they're off the bike. But those pannier frames also double as crash guards when bags aren't mounted on them and they provide great bungee points.for strapping down gear to your passenger seat.
That is true
Just what I needed to see.
Thanks for watchin
The panniers aren't bad. I have these, and i also have the GIVI frames. The givi frames are more sturdy and support all kind of standard panniers. They also protect the bike in case it goes down.
That is a plus. The Honda panniers don’t
I wish I had bought those instead of what I got, I still plan on getting a set, thank you so much for sharing and I hope you have a blessed week. Keep up the fun videos buddy.
+Heartland Dual Sport Your welcome ! I’m purdy happy with them, I really don’t have any complaints, they work great and are extremely easy to remove. I only put them on when I need them.
Wow...spent hours watching your CRF250l vids and didn't even know you purchased this one until a couple days ago. Great looking bike!!!
Oh yea, I needed a bigger bike for long trips and two up
Watching your 03/29/17 video now. Great mods!
Thanks
I've just bought an Africa Twin (2016) last year in November and it has the OEM side cases. They look pretty good except one thing...the fact that they open on a side is a disadvantage. My former bike, a Yamaha Tenere XT660Z (2011) had side cases that open at the top and the key lock was at a side, so i could improvise a system on top of the lid and i could attach drybags for more storage room, thing which can't be done in this case. And yes...i also hate the look of the empty rack bars and i don't want to add that stuff to my bike. Guess i'll just buy a huge 52L top case to compensate the small right side case and hope i can get everything in. Traveling 2 up for 2-3 weeks is not easy when it comes to packing stuff :))). Great informative clip! Have a great day!
I agree, I like the boxes that open from the top
These panniers look great and are a great price, but unfortunately not the pannier for real touring and multiple terrains. I know the other brands are expensive but they are made for the job in hand, they also hold there second hand value very well if you choose to sell them at a later date.
The oem panniers are very expensive as well. This guy got a once in a lifetime price. If you ever see any used for this price, let me know.
Interesting because every other opinion I read on these honda panniers are quite the opposite. Expensive, wobbling and delicate. Plastic on Givi trekker for instance is twice as thick. BTW mounting racks are good because serve as crash bars as well.
+Robson Enduro I say for the riding I have done they have held up find. They are not tough as the others no but they don’t cost as much. I’m happy with them for what I do.
Good review - thanks for sharing. I also liked your Corbin seat which I hadn’t seen before 👍
Yea I’m no so thrilled about the looks of it but the comfort is absolutely amazing!
Nice review. I know I am late to the party review-wize, but there is a way to allow the key to be removed when unlocked. Just needs a little filing.
That would be handy
Love the seat looks great
I don’t think it looks a good as stock but it feels a lot better
Thank you for posting the video.
Your welcome
That's a hell of a deal. 5 years later........how they holding up?
From experience, however good looking these panniers may be, they are not solid at all and the right pannier has a design defect. On a very simple tip over in the parking lot, my right pannier cracked open on the bottom right corner where the impact happened. I had to use some epoxy to repair it but look is gone. More importantly, the latching started to loosen up after a few hundred miles of off-roading or heaving shaking. It is an issue widely reported in the Africa Twin blogs. These panniers were able to protect the bike though, but they couldn't save themselves. The other issue is you cannot buy a single pannier, they sell them in pairs. My advice is to invest in another more solid pannier brand or soft panniers.
Bought two of these bikes with complete Honda luggage. Unfortunately one fell over and broke the side pannier top clip on one side. Honda (via our dealer) tells me you can only buy the whole side pannier set at a cost of over NZD 1,000 - no parts or no single side replacements. Will not buy this luggage again. Givi allow you to buy any small part to repair their luggage. Why can't Honda follow suit?
Yea I totally agree with that. No reason for it to not be replaceable.
Thank you, very informative, appreciate your time.
Your welcome thanks for watchin
Those bags are cool, I like the mounting system. All the best
They do a good job, They may not be as sturdy as some of the high dollar panniers but for the price, they work well
Top notch panniers, Woodzman! You got them for a great price. Be safe my friend.
+Gus Two Wheeling Thanks, I think you could tie them on your 250L with some bailing war
Last few months, Honda has been giving these (plus top box, centerstand and heated grips) away with all new bikes, at least over here.
Three main issues with them:
They are not particularly stable compared to rackmounted panniers. This may or may not be a real problem, but it sure was annoying as soon as the track surface got a bit rough.
They are fragile. The plastic will crack on a minor impact with an unlucky angle, and it will rip off either one of the top mounts (the hooks) and/or the hinge at the bottom (cracking the plastic). It may also crack the painted plastic panel surrounding the top mounts on the bike (been there, done that, got the t-shirt). And Honda won’t sell you the top mounts despite them being separate parts from what I can tell.
Third - it opens outwards. Which means you cant pack smaller items in any useful quantity, in particular in the left pannier, as this will empty itself into the lid when on the sidestand. They should have made them with top loading.
The three good things are the price, the fact that you don’t need a rack, and the weight - being mostly plastic.
I’ve done 2000km off- and onroad with the originals on a rental AT I used for a trip abroad, then opted for the sw motech trax adv with quick-removable rack on my own.
+Hallvard Opheim Yes I do with they would open from the top for sure, they work ok for me and for the price. I haven’t cracked mine but I haven’t crashed and I hope I don’t. If I go on a trip and go off road, I leave them at the camp.
I only put mine in when I take a bigger trip so not to often.
Nice bags, I just got a Africa Twin this weekend and love it. I still have my 250L, but I think I'm going to sale it. Just don't think it worth having two bike seating around, I'm just not in any hurry to ditch the 250 L fast lol there great bikes.
Thanks, yea I sure do miss my 250L
After going through two sets of these, we confirm they are absolute rubbish. Besides the nice initial fit with the frame and the main key, not only will they break as soon as you tip your bike in a parking lot or dirt (and you will), but the locking mechanism breaks immediately and they become loose. Invest in aftermarket.
Why would I drop my bike?
They are a complete pos
Does anyone know where to the get the small rubber piece that sits on the foot peg bracket that he talked about?
Greetings Woodsman
As always excellent video 🇺🇸🍾🎉🇺🇸
Do you know the Honda part number?
Thanks for assisting me.
Thanks! Man I sure don’t know
dang, it has been a year already????? woooooowwwwwwww. that went by wayyyyyyyy too fast! I can vouch for the old Pelican 1550 series cases that were on my Vstrom. 50 mph into a ditch and they held up with hardly much more than a scratch.
+COYOTE ADVENTURES im gettin old and so is the AT lol
Ha! Yeah, right. You may think you are getting "old" but you can outride me by 90% any given day! You 'da boss! :-D
+COYOTE ADVENTURES I may have to mount an oxygen bottle on the AT some day lol
There ya go! Just add NOS maaaannnnnn. :-D hahahahaaaaa!!!
Has anyone used this with an akrapovic slip on?
To be fair they do work and fit well and are easy . However you drop the bike and the plastic fixing point is breaking. They are great but not for a long adventure, expedition where you might drop the bike . Bear in mind the plastic fixing point can not be fixed . I crossed Africa and dropped the bike ( not crashed ) both sides . Both broke at the same plastic fixing hook . Headache , needed to weld metal hooks and plates and botch the panniers up . Anywhere other than Africa you would be screwed .
I totally understand that
In many cases the honda paniers pop off in a crash and escape with minor scuffs. I've been thinking of getting some for the quick connect functionality but can't justify the cost where my mosko bags do just fine and only really take 30 seconds to remove anyway.
+TRX250r08 that is my problem lol I can afford them
I am planning on purchasing the white 2017 Africa Twin tonight. I went into the dealership last night to take a look at it and sit on it to make sure it would be comfortable enough for long rides. I really like this bike and everything about it, until I looked at the maximum load capacity of 392 pounds. I am purchasing this motorcycle to be able to take my fiancé for day trips since I live close to Yosemite National Park. The issue here is that our combined weight is 430 pounds, so I was wondering if you knew if the motorcycle would be able to handle that? I am 6'5" and 235 pounds. She is 6'0" and 195 pounds. Large people...... Lol.
+Steven DeMoss oh yea ! That is just what they say my wife and I are close to that and it’s no problem at all, including our luggage.
They just have to say that for all Motorcycles. The AT has a ton of power and does great 2 up
That's great news! Thank you.
+Steven DeMoss Your welcome ! Congrats!
Do you still have your bike Africa twin
Looking good !
+Grey Goose 4x4 Thanks Mr Goose !
Bad ass thank you brother
+Gary Sit Your welcome, Thanks for watching !
Does Honda have an inner bag that you can put in and take out?
I haven’t seen one but I would think someone makes one
Just bought a 2017 model. It came with the panniers which are great for oem. I like your seat, the stock seat is making my arse numb after a couple of hours. Any recommendations please? Thanks.
I had the Corbin on mine, it didn’t look as cool as the stock but it was way more comfy
please tell me where did you buy them
amzn.to/3eIO0Rr
Woodzman, do you still ride the africa twin? thoughts on the extended rides. Also, how comfy is the corbin compared to stock? Thanks in advance....
I don’t have the AT anymore but the Corbin seat was awesome on long rides
Can you tell me what is the manufacturer of that seat and possibly the name and does it give you a fair amount of lower back support
It’s a Corbin sea and it’s great for back support. There is a back rest option for it. Yes awesome
@@WOODZMAN thank's for responding and a great video , be safe out and about
What is that seat that you have on that AT? That is not the stock seat but it looks really confortable.
Its a Corbin seat and its extremely comfy
Thanks for the review, just ordered some. Curious about the Bag you have on the back. Why did you go with that one as opposed to the top case that Honda offers?
Nevermind. I'm not going to pay $150 for the case, another $100 for a lock when it should've been included in the build of the case, and another $50 for the mount. I'll look for another one :)
Yea it’s stupid that the lock is. It included. I got the panniers when I bought the bike and the locks were included
Question, If I don't purchase the extra lock cylinders is there a way to lock the panniers?
Do they come with non-matching keyed cylinders?
I’m not sure if any other way to do it. The holes will be there. Best way is to get the Factory lock because they match the Motorcycle key. But don’t have the shop put them in they charge way to much, just take them to a local lock Smith like it did, cost me $20 to have them put in.
I just picked up mine for 500... only because I know someone. They were 699$
I bought the ADV package when I bought the bike. £1200 included: Centre stand, Fog lights, Panniers and Tank bag.
Nice!
good review, about the saddle what do the cost ?
Thanks, Im not sure anymore, You can check the link in the description
I have been looking at these panniers as well. But I realized that the auxiliary gas tank that I’m going to be getting won’t fit unless I go for a pannier system that has the bars. The bars may be ugly as you said, but when the panniers are off it seems to me that in a fall they will act as another safety element. Have you watched Long Way round? There was an incident of the someone hitting the back of the bike and the panniers actually saved the car from hitting the back tire more then it initially did. Could the original pannier system take that kind of accident and prevent an even bigger accident? Don’t know and wouldn’t want to find out either. But thank you for all your videos!! To my wife’s dismay, I have been watching them with great enthusiasm. God Bless!
Well the factory panniers are not as tough as the aftermarket no way.
Yea I watched Long Way Round. I liked it
where can you buy that small rubber piece? does it come with the cases?
No you will have to get it online or at the Honda dealer. Mine had them on because my bike came with the panniers
Thanks so much for your reply. I called the honda dealer and they dont have it in stock can you provide a link to a place i can purchase it?
My be came with the bike
They are supplied with the boxes, or at least mine were.
@@andrewkitchenuk yea I see now I made a review of them on my channel. I love this panniers
Hello, what rating do you give this panniers? Thanks
I like that factory panniers for the price most of all. I also like how they can be removed easily. I don’t leave the way they open from the side however. It’s hard to load them because you have to hold things in place when you try to close the door. I would like to have some that open from the top,
How much were the bags
I got mine cheap, $300
Where did you get the seat?..
I got it direct from Corbin
Have you found liner bags that fit each side?
+Lance Le May No I haven’t been looking because I didn’t know they made such a thing
Lance Le May, Honda do inner bags as official accessories. Nt sure of the price though.
These work great until you drop the bike, then the latch takes the brunt of the fall and then the case nevers locks well to the bike again.
They are not waterproof entirely or that well built - kinda flimsy.
Buuuuuut they are really clever, cheap and very useful.
+Nick Charlton I have dropped mine maybe 3 times and all is well, I didn’t crash, just fell over ! I have rode a lot of miles and they have stayed dry inside so far. They do work but not even close to being as well built as some of the other aftermarket panniers out there. If I got aftermarket panniers and I have no plans of it, they would need to be quick detach for the ugly bars lol
Heavy?
Oh no, they are light, not sure how much
I don't understand your remark of the usual Honda quality. i think these panniers are of a very dubious quality and not worthy of Honda. Especially the locks are of a very poor quality, the side openings are downright bad and also very impractical. Fortunately I did not buy them because I had a good look at them beforehand and I recommend aluminum cases and soft bags. These may be more expensive but will definitely last longer.
No offense but that seat doesn’t match that bike at all. Looks exactly like a seat I had on a 79 Kawasaki Z1 900. I guess it’s comfy which is the main thing but geez that diamond tuck seat looks like something from a 80 s goldwing not the coolest adventure bike on the market. What’s the deal seatconcepts surely has a comfy one that isn’t so fugly??? Sorry bike is awesome great. Fantastic not negative Nellie seat just weird to me....
No offense taken because I agree
I'm glad no dirty underwear fell out, awkward. Stay safe
+Tankerman They did so I had to edit the video haha
these panniers are as delicate as glass . completely useless .
Well you might think so but I had no problem with them, they worked just fine. Did you own a set ?