Where Are The Black People In Shogun!? Is This a Woke Article?

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  • čas přidán 31. 03. 2024
  • The article I'm reading and responding to:
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    According to historian Charles Ralph Boxer in his book "The Christian Century in Japan, 1549-1650" (1951), the European population in Japan likely peaked around 1612, with estimates ranging from 1,000 to 2,000 individuals, including missionaries, merchants, and sailors.
    archive.org/details/THECHRIST...
    One of the most widely cited estimates comes from the historical demographer Akira Hayami. In his study "The Population of Japan before the Meiji Period," Hayami suggests that Japan's population in 1600 was approximately 12 million. This estimate is based on an analysis of various historical documents, including rice production records and village registers.
    Another scholar, Kito Hiroshi, in his work "The Population of Early Modern Japan: A Reinterpretation," proposes a slightly higher estimate of around 15 to 17 million people in Japan during the early 17th century.
    Here is where you'll find sources about the Black African presence in Dutch ships
    1. "Black Africans in Seventeenth-Century Amsterdam" by Dienke Hondius (2008) - This article explores the lives of Black Africans in Amsterdam during the 17th century and mentions the presence of Black sailors on Dutch ships.
    1. "Amsterdam's Atlantic: Print Culture and the Making of Dutch Brazil" by Michiel van Groesen (2017) - While not solely focused on Black sailors, this book provides insights into the Dutch colonial activities in the 17th century and the involvement of Black individuals in Dutch maritime ventures.
    2. "The Dutch in the Atlantic Slave Trade, 1600-1815" by Johannes Postma (1990) - This comprehensive study of Dutch involvement in the Atlantic slave trade discusses the presence of Black sailors on Dutch ships, particularly in the context of the West African coast.
    More sources that should appear on screen when I talk about the Black African presence in Dutch ships.
    1. "Black Sailors on Red Clydeside: Rioting, Reactionary Trade Unionism and Conflicting Notions of 'British' Following the First World War" by Jacqueline Jenkinson (2008) - While this paper primarily focuses on the early 20th century, it mentions the presence of Black sailors on Dutch ships in the 17th century as historical background.
    2. "The Black Presence in the Era of the American Revolution, 1770-1800" by Sidney Kaplan and Emma Nogrady Kaplan (1989) - This book discusses the presence of Black sailors on various European ships, including Dutch vessels, during the 17th and 18th centuries.
    On Sakanoue no Tamuramaro
    1. "Sakanoue no Tamuramaro" by Inoue Kaoru (1958) - This article, published in the Japanese historical journal "Nihon Rekishi," provides a detailed account of Sakanoue no Tamuramaro's life and military campaigns. (In Japanese)
    2. "The Cambridge History of Japan, Volume 2: Heian Japan" edited by Donald H. Shively and William H. McCullough (1999) - This comprehensive volume includes information about Sakanoue no Tamuramaro and his role in early Heian period politics and military affairs.
    3. "Emishi: The Morphology of Post-Conquest Society" by Karl Friday (1988) - While primarily focused on the Emishi people, this article discusses Sakanoue no Tamuramaro's military campaigns against the Emishi and provides insights into his role in early Heian period expansionism.
    4. "Secrets of the Samurai: The Martial Arts of Feudal Japan" by Oscar Ratti and Adele Westbrook (1973) - This book mentions Sakanoue no Tamuramaro as one of the early Japanese military leaders and discusses his contributions to the development of martial arts and military tactics.
    5. "The Tale of the Heike" (Heike Monogatari) - This classic Japanese epic, compiled in the 13th century, includes references to Sakanoue no Tamuramaro and his military exploits, providing historical context for his legacy.
    Letters about Yasuke
    Matsudaira Ietada's Diary, Tenshō 10, fourth month:, Letter from Lorenzo Mesia, October 8, 1581:
    #shogunfx #feudaljapan #debunking

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  • @metatronyt
    @metatronyt  Před měsícem +36

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      @claudiaxander Před měsícem

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    • @kimmogensen4888
      @kimmogensen4888 Před měsícem

      if there was a concept called black blood it would not be a reference to skin color as racists today will interpret it as, but behavior, as violent behavior, son of a violent man, it could be translated as,
      as don't send a sheep to tending a flock of sheep against wolves, qualities desirable in a warrior are hereditary, as height is.

    • @andreabarrington3239
      @andreabarrington3239 Před měsícem

      The ignorance in the comments is astounding. Its obvious that you do know that there is a PYRAMID in Japan. It is off the coast and underwater. So did the Japanese build it? You do not know that the EDO, as in the "EDO Period" are a West AFRICAN tribe, whose empire reached through China and into Japan. So they were present, occupied and ruled the area. They were later expelled, which is why Japan closed their boarders to outsiders. The Japanese has more African ancestry than any other Asian Population and and many of their words and names are the same or similer to the EDO Tribes in Africa. China has a PYRAMID, Did the Chinese build it? England was originally inhabited by Africans and had set up kingdoms before being invaded by the white hoard. The original inhabitants, the PICTS, were black.
      As for the Egyptians, DNA has determined that the all of the Pharoahs up to the Ptolemaic period was of AFRICAN, not Middle Eastern descent. Also, DNA has determined that the " European Jews" have no DNA connection to Isreal. Also, the British Museums have admitted that the paintings of the original Black Royals, Including King Henry and King Charles were repainted after the Black Jews and Moors were expelled from Europe. The Catholic Church sanctioned the expulsions and even had a ship named JESUS to take the black Jews to Carriabean Islands and the Americas. The Pope recently apologized for the Church's sanctioning and participation in the slave trade. We are in a period of truths being revealed. Your Neanderthal DNA means that you are not fully human. So, where did you come from? Children of fallen angels. All of South Asia have African tribes that have been there for more than 10,000 years. What makes you think that no Africans were in Japan? The Olmecs, Africans, were living and thriving in America before both the Aztecs and the Maya. In Christopher Columbus' letters to the Queen, he reported that when he arrived here, the land was populated by Africans or Negros. Good grief! The question is a valid question. Africans were occupying every continent during the 1600s.

    • @andreabarrington3239
      @andreabarrington3239 Před měsícem

      czcams.com/video/OSS6q-I64C0/video.htmlsi=p4mQJeJE7y3f9QeL Africans in Japan

    • @andreabarrington3239
      @andreabarrington3239 Před měsícem

      ​@@kimmogensen4888czcams.com/video/OSS6q-I64C0/video.htmlsi=p4mQJeJE7y3f9QeL

  • @undead9999
    @undead9999 Před měsícem +7767

    In Africa. The end.

    • @abradolflincler726
      @abradolflincler726 Před měsícem +79

      Ever heard of Yasuke?

    • @drip369
      @drip369 Před měsícem +67

      The Western and Central portion, yes, although some of them could still be over there in the Caribbean

    • @erenjaeger1738
      @erenjaeger1738 Před měsícem +725

      ​@@abradolflincler726he's the only one. Just one.

    • @micheledeetlefs6041
      @micheledeetlefs6041 Před měsícem +855

      ​​@@abradolflincler726 One man. In the middle of 22 million people. The question isn't where is that one man, but why would anyone think that one man more important than the other 22 million?
      Also the black samurai so many people keep referencing had been dead nearly two decades by the time the novel and mini-series open. While the Jedi were based on samurai, samurai are not Jedi. They don't become Force Ghosts. So his lack of appearance is easily explainable.

    • @brunorocha1328
      @brunorocha1328 Před měsícem +301

      How dare you sir claiming ancient people used to be in their place of origin instead of taking the Uber to other countries...Why do you hate Ameridians?

  • @spudjuice9314
    @spudjuice9314 Před měsícem +3862

    My grandmother used to tell me. "I don't care what they tell you on Metatron, the last Shogun was black."

    • @klausvanderknut928
      @klausvanderknut928 Před měsícem +464

      and my grandmother used to tell me. "I don't care what they tell you in the youtube comment section, Metatron is black."

    • @nomdeguerre8464
      @nomdeguerre8464 Před měsícem +215

      WHERE ARE ALL THE BLACK METATRONS?!?

    • @JugglerOfWords
      @JugglerOfWords Před měsícem +287

      "I don't care what the black people told you, the last Shogun was my grandmother"

    • @LawfulBased
      @LawfulBased Před měsícem +277

      My german grandmother told me: _" Don't listen to what they tell you in history. Hitler... was a black trans woman! "_

    • @HangrySaturn
      @HangrySaturn Před měsícem +23

      @@nomdeguerre8464 AND THE LAMB SAUCE!!!

  • @Mistmantle88
    @Mistmantle88 Před měsícem +606

    I watched Schindler’s List all the way through twice, but I couldn’t find a single black person in the concentration camps. “Spielberg is so racist.”
    🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @drydryd
      @drydryd Před měsícem +10

      HAHAHAHAHA

    • @blub5117
      @blub5117 Před měsícem +16

      Actually a good comparison. There have been different categories of sub human in the NS ideology. Blacks and f.e. muslims where clearly seen as inferior and have been discriminated but not seen as worthless or hazardous. Blacks could end up in camps for other reasons (like being gay), but the extermination of their ethnicitie wasn't planned. So they've been a very tiny minority. Btw. Did you know that after liberation, everyone got released but the gay? The allies didn't see them as innocent so forced labor had seen to be appropriate.😢

    • @rickrussell8382
      @rickrussell8382 Před měsícem +1

      They could have been guards ?

    • @jgreystoke
      @jgreystoke Před měsícem

      ​@@blub5117Rubbish. Hitler admired Muslims for their ferocity, and for their hatred of Jews. Israel's Muslim enemies admire Hitler.

    • @andreabarrington3239
      @andreabarrington3239 Před 27 dny

      Did you know that before the Germans started with the European Jews, they experimented on indigenous Australians and Africans to perfect their killing and torture techniques.

  • @thomasvanhede5771
    @thomasvanhede5771 Před měsícem +312

    Those ppl think Afro Samourai was actually a documentary ....

    • @a.nonimus6705
      @a.nonimus6705 Před měsícem +5

      It wasn't?

    • @thomasvanhede5771
      @thomasvanhede5771 Před měsícem

      @@a.nonimus6705 oops yeah it was , sorry i am an ignorant white hétérosexual male who has so much privilege i can't even count them 😜

    • @andreabarrington3239
      @andreabarrington3239 Před 27 dny

      czcams.com/video/OSS6q-I64C0/video.htmlsi=8BguO2rn51pjCMct
      Africans in Japan

    • @andreabarrington3239
      @andreabarrington3239 Před 27 dny

      Where did Japan's underwater PYRAMID come from? Did the Japanese build it? Where did China's PYRAMID come from?
      Did the Chinese build it? Any country that has a PYRAMID is because Black Africans, not Mediterranean, Arab, or Caucasians, were present in and on the land. Why do yo think the Japanese have a higher percentage of African DNA than any other Asian Race?
      Africans in Japan
      czcams.com/video/OSS6q-I64C0/video.htmlsi=8BguO2rn51pjCMct

    • @Void_and_Colors
      @Void_and_Colors Před 20 dny +8

      ​@@a.nonimus6705Actually the was a black slave that became a samurai in Japan who worked for Oda Nobunaga and was one of his most trusted man who was tasked to bring back Oda Nobunaga back to Oda's son and his name was Yasuke.

  • @leedobson
    @leedobson Před měsícem +2876

    Why can't modern people comprehend homogeneous cultures ?

    • @Romulan64
      @Romulan64 Před měsícem

      Because they're actively working to destroy them. To them, equality can't be achieved until all cultural roots and loyalties are destroyed and replaced with a united global monoculture. Leftist intellectuals don't even TRY to hide that hatred, either!
      PS: I'm Hispanic, but I can see the very clear agenda at play.

    • @generalalduin9548
      @generalalduin9548 Před měsícem +534

      Because identity politics

    • @aragmarverilian8238
      @aragmarverilian8238 Před měsícem +306

      Because of NPCism.

    • @rickofpolynesia8070
      @rickofpolynesia8070 Před měsícem +377

      I wouldn’t say modern people as much as Americans and Canadians

    • @MoStBlEsSeD
      @MoStBlEsSeD Před měsícem +199

      Marxism

  • @JaejoongPrincess
    @JaejoongPrincess Před měsícem +1484

    As a Black American, this is embarrassing and stupid.

    • @jackspratt7264
      @jackspratt7264 Před měsícem

      The word "an" precedes vowels not consonants. But I don't want to embarrass you for being stupid.

    • @vampirecount3880
      @vampirecount3880 Před měsícem +114

      I know the feel, im also black from Brazil and this kind of shit makes me cringe

    • @JimmyDoyel-by2cp
      @JimmyDoyel-by2cp Před měsícem +7

      Nice thumbnail 😆

    • @jrabonsound1913
      @jrabonsound1913 Před měsícem +2

      a, not an …JS👍🏼

    • @JaejoongPrincess
      @JaejoongPrincess Před měsícem +5

      @@jrabonsound1913 It was a simple mistake.

  • @khfan4life365
    @khfan4life365 Před 25 dny +73

    I’ve seen pictures of the Ainu. They are not black. They have a darker skin tone, but they aren’t black. I’m sure they’d be insulted to be called something they’re not. These culture vultures should be ashamed of themselves.

    • @snowcat9308
      @snowcat9308 Před 8 dny

      I don't think they care or even have the same understanding of race/identity politics as we do. Stop trying to own the lefties by white-knighting for an indigenous population that would laugh at both of us for having a conversation this pointless.

    • @kennethc2466
      @kennethc2466 Před dnem

      In the mid-16th century, enslaved Africans arrived in Japan alongside Europeans. They're known as Kokujinkei nihonjin. The Ainu are an ethnic group comprising related Indigenous peoples who are native to northern Japan. You seem to be VERY confused, and a 'culture vulture' who doesn't even understand what you're talking about, aka, typical Metatron simp.

    • @stuarthynes6136
      @stuarthynes6136 Před 9 hodinami +1

      The Hairy Ainu of the north were suntanned, when upper class valued lighter skin and had servants holding parasols when outdoors...

    • @kennethc2466
      @kennethc2466 Před 7 hodinami

      "I’ve seen pictures of the Ainu. They are not black"
      Duh...
      The Ainu are an ethnic group comprising related Indigenous peoples who are native to northern Japan.
      "They have a darker skin tone"
      False, and horrifyingly revealing of your 'skin tone equals ethnicity' equivocation claim.
      "These culture vultures should be ashamed of themselves."
      As you should be, ignoring the facts.
      In the mid-16th century, enslaved Africans arrived in Japan alongside Europeans.
      Black people in Japan (黒人系日本人, Kokujinkei nihonjin /Nipponjin) are Japanese residents or citizens of sub-Saharan African ancestry.
      I'm sorry the facts of black people's history offend you to the point of using public dishonesty. Please try to do better as a human being, and not be the 'culture vulture' you condemn.

  • @Shin-nl8oz
    @Shin-nl8oz Před měsícem +168

    Thank you! I am Japanese and I am delighted to hear your analysis. As you mentioned, Yasuke is the only black person I know from those days. There may have been other black people, but the episode where Nobunaga and others were surprised about his blackness and tried to wash off the ink from his skin shows how rare they were. However, I often hear claims like "Japanese were black," which frustrates me a lot. In my opinion, it is a disrespectful attitude towards the culture and history of other civilizations. I want people to be humble enough to study and accept other cultures as they are. (By the way, it's great that the Japanese people had accepted Yasuke so well. Perhaps they did not have the idea of racial discrimination back then ☺)

    • @nyantaro-momo2
      @nyantaro-momo2 Před měsícem +3

      同感です👍

    • @harrietharlow9929
      @harrietharlow9929 Před měsícem +24

      I don't understand how anyone can think Japanese were black--ever. But then I don't understand why black people have to be included even when such inclusion is flat-out historically-wrong.

    • @brianmcdermott2525
      @brianmcdermott2525 Před měsícem +12

      Almost certainly far worse racial discrimination back then, yasuke in most writings i saw is described like a spectacle.

    • @Arminas86
      @Arminas86 Před měsícem

      Oh don't worry about it, in the west we're used to crazy comments like that, recently we had a black woman claiming the first Brits were black and that blacks built stone hendge. We know from archeological evidence she's wrong but it doesn't stop her and people like her from ranting.

    • @bobsmith5185
      @bobsmith5185 Před měsícem +10

      Ask the Koreans if the Japanese racially discriminated back then (& later)…

  • @TalesofDawnandDusk
    @TalesofDawnandDusk Před měsícem +1678

    As someone who translates 1000 year old Japanese folktales and puts them on CZcams, you can take my word for it that there were no black people in the literature of feudal Japan . . I don't think I should have to explain that but we live in. . . "Interesting" times.

    • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
      @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 Před měsícem +56

      I just checked your channel and subscribed!

    • @brunoactis1104
      @brunoactis1104 Před měsícem +13

      Interesting times? There have always been weirdos, this is no different; a couple of people making strange claims. Honestly more annoying to me are the people blowing this whole thing out of proportion, like Metatron or you.

    • @patricialavery8270
      @patricialavery8270 Před měsícem +118

      They must have imported all those Black Viking Women.

    • @harvestcanada
      @harvestcanada Před měsícem

      There aren't any white people in it either same as aliens George Washington or pizza hut.
      Next thing your going to tell me no women exsted either.

    • @nodiggity9472
      @nodiggity9472 Před měsícem +50

      What about people in feudal Japan who *identified* as black? Did their struggle not happen?

  • @dannyau139
    @dannyau139 Před měsícem +743

    I never once thought to asked where are all the Japanese people when watching Zulu back then.

    • @troglodyte8791
      @troglodyte8791 Před měsícem +34

      no but i find it strange that none of the black people in it had a laptop.

    • @138monkey9
      @138monkey9 Před měsícem +33

      my japanese grandad used to read old zulu books to me 'cos south africa was japanese back then. They went there with the first air baloon ever constructed

    • @hppd1699
      @hppd1699 Před měsícem +4

      I was thinking the same thing.

    • @fmotts4485
      @fmotts4485 Před měsícem

      Shouldn't we also be asking, "where are all the white people in Wakanda?"
      Japan is a real country with real history that cannot be changed. Wakanda never existed, never ever, an idea created by some white dude. That means we can change and add whatever we friggin want, like blue unicorn people. So why are there only dark skinned Africans in Wakanda?

    • @ReyCimeni
      @ReyCimeni Před měsícem

      These black people were everywhere in the world, apparently. Even in the arctic and antarctic.. these black people will claim anything. Wez wuz travelerz!

  • @AWARHERO
    @AWARHERO Před měsícem +108

    It's like asking: "Where are the smart people on TikTok?"
    There are NONE.

    • @joelfakelastname9597
      @joelfakelastname9597 Před 15 dny +1

      I understand that's a joke, but I think metatron made a tiktok. Also flesh simulator is a deep spectrum genius

  • @kontrarien5721
    @kontrarien5721 Před měsícem +39

    How is the 1980 Shogun White Savior? Sure, Blackthorn is the main character and helps Toranaga - yes even literally saving his life. However, the Anjin is constantly being buffeted about by forces beyond his control, constantly thwarted in achieving his goals, and ultimately ends up on the wrong side of a tragic ending that sees him losing his love interest and struggling in vain to regain agency while Toranaga literally looks down on him, declaring that the Anjin can struggle all he wants but will always belong to Toranaga.

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin Před 11 dny

      It was bigger in Last Samurai where they made Saito some sort of country bumpkin.

  • @DonVigaDeFierro
    @DonVigaDeFierro Před měsícem +1262

    Shogun: "How DARE you EXCLUDE black people from medieval Japan!!???"
    Resident Evil 5: "how DARE you INCLUDE black people in modern Africa!!!???"

    • @allarian8726
      @allarian8726 Před měsícem

      cant please these lunatics lol

    • @JV-km9xk
      @JV-km9xk Před měsícem

      they are the true racists tbh

    • @ironclamp5325
      @ironclamp5325 Před měsícem +169

      The claims of racism on that game were legitimately stupid. The game takes place in Africa. Pretty sure it would make zero sense if all the zombies appeared white and only a few may have been black. I swear people will bitch about anything.

    • @sahilrahman5066
      @sahilrahman5066 Před měsícem +24

      There was like one single black samurai and he was called Yasuke, that's it there were no other the Japanese people were confused about why he was brown colored 😂 that they thought he was just dirty it took them a while to understand

    • @alvinbonny1562
      @alvinbonny1562 Před měsícem +83

      ​@@ironclamp5325I live in Africa (Ivory Coast) me and my buddy actually finished the game several time. We didn't even knew the game was called racist until 2020. People just want to be mad bro

  • @Merisu_Sheep
    @Merisu_Sheep Před měsícem +3287

    Where were the white people in Wakanda lol
    Edit: I wrote this as a joke. It wasn't supposed to be a serious critique on the fictional nation of Wakanda or the film

    • @deanmccrorie3461
      @deanmccrorie3461 Před měsícem

      The feds are breaking down your door in 3…2…1

    • @stuka80
      @stuka80 Před měsícem +442

      the white people made the movie, thats where they were lol

    • @Merisu_Sheep
      @Merisu_Sheep Před měsícem +41

      @@stuka80 XD

    • @jellyfishjones4741
      @jellyfishjones4741 Před měsícem +39

      @@stuka80 Klaue was too powerful. That's why Killmonger had to kill him.

    • @65firered
      @65firered Před měsícem +23

      ​@@stuka80And the comic.

  • @YouDontKnowMe2011.9
    @YouDontKnowMe2011.9 Před měsícem +46

    OMG...an educated, intelligent discrediting of what was intentionally a woke, agenda-driven article. Thank you.

  • @FriendlyYandere
    @FriendlyYandere Před měsícem +81

    They probably saw Yasuke and wanted to see more of him, forgetting the fact that dude was only serving Nobunaga for about a year, and then promptly disappear from the face of the earth.

    • @user-xh6mk9dc1m
      @user-xh6mk9dc1m Před měsícem +24

      弥助は1582年に主君の織田信長の暗殺の場で勇敢まで彼を守って戦っていたが、信長が自害すると、次は信長の息子が守る城に移動して戦い、最後は命を助けられてインドの寺院に送られた。その後は記録がありません。
      弥助は忠誠を尽くした立派な侍でした。
      shogunの舞台は1600年なので、弥助はもう日本にいないでしょう

    • @daquan7868
      @daquan7868 Před měsícem

      There was more he was just the most impressive

    • @mladenkorstic
      @mladenkorstic Před měsícem

      @@daquan7868 several hundred blacks lived in Japan during 1600 but only Yasuke was a samurai no other black man ever was a samurai

    • @fruitspunch8859
      @fruitspunch8859 Před měsícem +15

      Yasuke wasn't a samurai.

    • @mladenkorstic
      @mladenkorstic Před měsícem +1

      @@fruitspunch8859 yes he was. He was the only black person to be given the title of a samurai, there were other black people in Japan during the period but they weren't samurai

  • @yarpenzigrin1893
    @yarpenzigrin1893 Před měsícem +707

    Don't give these people an inch. They pretend to ask these questions in good faith but they never do.

    • @brianbagnall3029
      @brianbagnall3029 Před měsícem +24

      They're trying to do the same thing they attempted/partially succeeded with ancient Egypt. Ancient Egyptians were 100% white until the Nubian invasion in around 800 AD. The cemetery at Fag el-Gamous says it all.

    • @petrmiros9908
      @petrmiros9908 Před měsícem +9

      @@brianbagnall3029 You mean 800BC no?

    • @FOLIPE
      @FOLIPE Před měsícem +9

      ​@@brianbagnall3029the nubia invasion happened 700BC, the cemetery you are referring to is from the modern era, thus post nubia invasion.

    • @brianbagnall3029
      @brianbagnall3029 Před měsícem +9

      @@FOLIPE Okay, I had that reversed. Still, Egypt was founded by whites like Ramses. The cemetery at Amarna and also Fag El Gamous show 54% were blondes or redheads, and 87% when light-brown hair color is added. That's remarkable because adults generally lose their blondeness as they age.

    • @rightwingreactionary
      @rightwingreactionary Před měsícem +5

      @@brianbagnall3029 Citations needed.

  • @Hexensohn
    @Hexensohn Před měsícem +555

    English pilot, Dutch ship and crew, Japanese island.
    Eyyyyy where da black people at?

    • @dysmissme7343
      @dysmissme7343 Před měsícem +17

      😂😂

    • @zzzzzz69
      @zzzzzz69 Před měsícem +26

      Narcissism

    • @texasfuneral4787
      @texasfuneral4787 Před měsícem +2

      Black people were on the island first. 😡

    • @Hexensohn
      @Hexensohn Před měsícem +25

      Yes. It's a common misconception that the early inhabitants of Japan were called Jomon, but this is actually a poor translation. It translates as "Yo, man!"

    • @Alphonsio
      @Alphonsio Před měsícem +4

      Fighting and looting each other..

  • @imperatoraugustus9970
    @imperatoraugustus9970 Před 6 dny +9

    I keep seeing people claiming Yasuke was this samurai that set out to avenge nobunaga's death, but in all writings from that time i've seen he was a portuguese slave that Nobunaga chose to take, and he simply lived in the castle until Nobunaga's assassination where he was seen running screaming into the wilderness. He wasn't a samurai, he wasn't a hero, he was a dude. a black dude in japan.

  • @jetrey811
    @jetrey811 Před měsícem +6

    This discussion was so helpful and productive and interesting. It’s such a relief to be able to talk about shows we like and also dive into the historical aspects without feeling shutdown for not already knowing or for being curious. You weren’t harsh or mean at all in explaining this or even criticizing the article. I’m really liking this show and I’m glad I found this channel now

  • @UglyJaguar
    @UglyJaguar Před měsícem +685

    As a blackman I would be honestly offended if I saw ethnicities other than Portuguese, English, or Japanese in Shogun. Thank you Mr. Sanada

    • @dgray3771
      @dgray3771 Před měsícem +9

      They could do a flashback to earlier when the Honno-ji incident happened. Yasuke was there. I'm not saying it is relevant but seeing him storm the residence of Nobunagas heir would be nice and seeing him on rampage would be fun.

    • @luckyluc25
      @luckyluc25 Před měsícem

      Today, there are over 10 times the amount of slaves in Africa, India, Muslim world, then ever were at the peak of the slave trade hundreds of years ago. You'd think todays left wing would be demanding the dismantle of modern slavery instead of trying to get paid for something not one of them ever experienced. For anyone to say they cannot make it today because of things that ended 150 years ago is insane. And the things they complain about like the (K)KK, and Jim Crow were created by the DEMOCRATS, cause they lost the Civil War to keep slavery. And they vote for them, while complaining about what they did to them. I don't get it honestly. And todays Democrat Abort1on keeps them a minority by choice. So why would the left want to end modern slavery? They obviously don't.

    • @Sgtspork
      @Sgtspork Před měsícem +4

      @@dgray3771 why not just include him as a character? it's what, only a 15-20 year time shift right? (I don't know his historical account aside from what I learned in this video but Shogun is Historical Fiction..) could have Yasuke basically doing a tour of the Japanese nobility and show up as an honored dinner guest at Toranaga's.. perhaps just after Blackthorn is made Hatamoto... and could be used as a narrative tool to contrast Blackthorn's own treatment and even help flesh out his character a bit.. just to keep it more historical, have the nobility and upper class marvel over him and celebrate him compared to Blackthorn's more harsh treatment... tho I do not know how this would work with Toranaga's political situation at that time in the story honestly.. but I'm just trying to give a non-shoehorning narrative reason while still maintaining a somewhat historically accurate possibility for the encounter, even tho the account shown in the video of Yasuke would be time shifted a few decades... this is off the top of my head..
      but I am now interested in hearing more about Yasuke's experience, it sounds quite interesting and would probably be better overall than trying to fit him into Shogun... I mean, it wasn't in the book but the tv show is an adapatation and the addition not a large one at all...
      I dunno, just a random thought..

    • @dgray3771
      @dgray3771 Před měsícem +17

      @@Sgtspork He was captured and basically deported. We also don't see Nobunaga. Since this is after that period. It's still historically inspired. Adding Yasuke would deminish his story.
      Now what I Invision is a shogun prequel. Where they do some flashbacks during this story of the incident/ rebellion and then in the prequel we start with Yasuke and then he'd have his story told.
      I do not feel it would do justice to add a black samurai in this series to Yasuke.

    • @redon-2833
      @redon-2833 Před měsícem +15

      That's fine, but to further adjust the truth, the Spanish and Portuguese are the true world powers of the 16th century, far above the rest of Europe, which was really very backward at that time. Very few or almost no English people should appear in the series. The English will have their half-fairy tale version to highlight and belittle Spain and Portugal, as always. Besides business, there were also battles, the Battle of Cagayan, (Spanish), and the battle of a single ship against many Japanese near the coast (Portuguese). The weapons were far superior to the Japanese ones, the swords, like the Spanish rapier with magnificent steel, were far superior to the highly valued katana. The Spanish and Portuguese combat technique was above the famous samurai warrior. Spanish steel, (revered by the Romans), was superior to that of katanas, two-handed weapons and with very poor steel.

  • @grandmufftwerkin9037
    @grandmufftwerkin9037 Před měsícem +512

    Trying to overlay modern concepts of 'diversity' into every historical context has become a very tiring thing to deal with.

    • @cyberedge881
      @cyberedge881 Před měsícem +31

      Exactly. There were virtually always exceptions. But why do you have to constantly focus on the exceptions? And so it unequally at that? Why does every period drama or fantasy film or series have to look like modern New York City? It's getting absolutely pathetic.

    • @azelkhntr4992
      @azelkhntr4992 Před měsícem +32

      But they waz kangz an sheeit.

    • @gambitacio
      @gambitacio Před měsícem +11

      @@cyberedge881especially even now where for a lot of nations (America is a spoiled child in historical comparison of age), ethnicity and nationality are synonyms.

    • @paltomori4625
      @paltomori4625 Před měsícem

      Within 200 years every second person on this planet will be "sub-Saharan" black. All companies have to suck up to them no matter what, since they have to please their future customers and employees. That is what drives all of this.

    • @FrankLucas-pw5hs
      @FrankLucas-pw5hs Před měsícem

      *Y'allz Racist!*
      *FACTS* are that there were *two huge Feifdoms* that were composed of *majority Black African Samurai.* For example, read the following (taken from an *expert historian* on the Tokugawa Shogunate era):
      "In the annals of Japanese history, there exists a remarkable yet little-known chapter about *two African samurais* who wielded influence during the tumultuous era of the Tokugawa shogunate. These two remarkable figures, whose origins lay in the lands of Africa, found themselves in Japan's feudal landscape, their destinies intertwined with the fate of the nation.
      One of these Africans was akin to Yasuke, the famed African retainer of Oda Nobunaga. Known for his towering stature and exceptional combat prowess, he rose through the ranks of the samurai caste, earning the respect of his peers and the trust of the powerful daimyo Toranaga/Tokugawa. With his keen strategic mind and unwavering loyalty, he established his own fiefdom, a bastion of strength in the heart of Japan.
      His companion, mirroring William Adams, was a man of unyielding determination and indomitable spirit. Embodying the spirit of endurance and resilience, he navigated the intricate web of Japanese politics with finesse, earning accolades as a master diplomat and tactician. Like Adams, he too carved out his own domain, a beacon of hope for those who sought refuge in the tumultuous times of war. *When all the Native Japanese were bloodthirsty and plotting how to burn down their opponents crops - it was these two African Samurai that were planting trees!!*
      Together, these two African samurais stood as pillars of strength, their fiefdoms serving as bastions of stability amidst the chaos of civil strife. Their allegiance to Tokugowa/Toranaga was unwavering, their skills in warfare and governance invaluable assets in the struggle for power. Through their courage and ingenuity, *they helped shape the course of Japanese history, leaving an indelible mark on the annals of time."*
      Powerful stuff, huh??
      ---------------------------------
      *APRIL FOOLS, BABY!!!!* 😂🤣😂🤡🤡

  • @ronnie5979
    @ronnie5979 Před měsícem +8

    This is my second comment on your video. I must be honest when I say I was reluctant to watch it just by reading the video title. My being from the US most articles and videos with a title such as yours is overrun with woke ideology. I am just speaking for myself when I say I am tired of this kind of thing. But I must say I enjoyed your video and your comments and explanation were spot on. Keep up the good work.

  • @MrCroky123
    @MrCroky123 Před měsícem +1

    Great stuff man ! Great stuff ! Thank you for your work and insights into this issue.

  • @framegrace1
    @framegrace1 Před měsícem +641

    "White saviour?" The poor guy is trolled constantly and used by Toranaga without any remorse...

    • @poisonapleproduction
      @poisonapleproduction Před měsícem +50

      Fr when does he save the japanese people XD

    • @Subarashii_Nem
      @Subarashii_Nem Před měsícem +188

      He is a PRISONER. He's not allowed to leave. He says many times he wants to leave and both Toranaga and Mariko tell him he can't because he basically belongs to Toranaga now. Where does the saviour part come in? Because he helped a ship not sink? He was looking out for himself. Because he saved a few important people's lives? His own interests align with doing that. Because he got a promotion? To keep him sweet and he'd be an asset against those that are after Toranagas head.
      He's not a saviour at all. He's a prisoner and a dancing monkey for Toranaga and basically everyone else in power. I dunno where people got white saviour from but he's definitely not a saviour. He's just trying not to be killed. Very big difference.

    • @bob7975
      @bob7975 Před měsícem +56

      He would last all of about 15 minutes without Lord Toranaga's protection.

    • @erikrungemadsen2081
      @erikrungemadsen2081 Před měsícem +21

      Blackthorne is not saving anything no matter what his skin color is.

    • @nullakjg767
      @nullakjg767 Před měsícem

      the poor fragile japanese people who had just invaded korea and killed over 1 million civilians lol.

  • @ricijs2000
    @ricijs2000 Před měsícem +356

    As my great aunt used to say ''I dont care what they teach you at school , Oda Nobunaga was a tall blonde female with huge double D's''

    • @r01d2
      @r01d2 Před měsícem +6

      that sounds like us when we have grandkids

    • @Silentpoppy
      @Silentpoppy Před měsícem

      I heard he had 3 double D's tho?

    • @futavadumnezo
      @futavadumnezo Před měsícem

      In anime it literally is 😅

    • @mabmoh7340
      @mabmoh7340 Před měsícem +20

      I get that reference 👉

    • @MB11BM44
      @MB11BM44 Před měsícem +8

      For those wondering the anime is called Oda Nobuna no Yabou, fire anime ngl

  • @firtazile8035
    @firtazile8035 Před 23 dny +6

    Very informative video. They started with the rewriting of European history, moved to Egypt and now they want to branch out into Asia, it's disturbing.

  • @oldhat2u
    @oldhat2u Před měsícem +1

    You are amazing. I've enjoyed many of your posts. ;^)- I wish you well!

  • @chigozieukwuomah
    @chigozieukwuomah Před měsícem +272

    I can reassure anyone who isnt black that sees this, its only African Americans who claim black origins of almost every culture. As an African, I know my history and culture. A show based on feudal Japan should have nothing to do with black people. And this is just ridiculous to think about.

    • @khorneflakes773
      @khorneflakes773 Před měsícem

      Why do they accuse whites of culturally appropriating everything when that's quite literally what they are doing?

    • @elleanna5869
      @elleanna5869 Před měsícem +24

      As a Nigerian I confirm

    • @burntgrahamcracker2866
      @burntgrahamcracker2866 Před měsícem +32

      Ah don’t worry I assume most people people understand that Americans at the moment can be a bit weird about race

    • @switchgear100
      @switchgear100 Před měsícem +6

      I think part of it comes from a misconception of the Atlantic slave trade. The less crazy people who ask where the black people are might be expecting slaves or lower crewman on trading ships or amongst the European groups to be present. That trade is ongoing during the setting of Shogun but it is not nearly at its height in 1600 and was still in relatively small numbers. So while it is entirely possible that a Portuguese or Butch ship in Japan might have a black person on board the chances are super slim, especially on a Dutch pirate ship.

    • @echolalia682
      @echolalia682 Před měsícem +6

      @@switchgear100 As slim as chance as that would be, how much slimmer do you think it would be that that Black person on that Jewish-owned Portuguese or Dutch crewed ship would be accepted by the Japanese and made a samurai? Inb4 muh Yasuke. He was a koshō, not a samurai. Basically the equivalent of a squire. Not the same thing at all

  • @hawaiianmade1947
    @hawaiianmade1947 Před měsícem +231

    Where are the black people in Shogun?
    Answer: They are ALL in every TV commercials!

    • @CrimsonUniverse22
      @CrimsonUniverse22 Před měsícem +25

      Thank god I’m not the only one who noticed this. I once saw three commercials in a row where the main character was black, or it literally had an all black cast.
      They’ve come to the point of being profoundly overrepresented in commercials, and the pandering is so obvious.
      And this is coming from an Asian!!

    • @smudgeyarksha3514
      @smudgeyarksha3514 Před měsícem +22

      With white woman partners too - My daughters are marrying a white man only when they'
      re of age!

    • @dchaz3.0dacan18
      @dchaz3.0dacan18 Před měsícem +9

      And in large beautiful suburban homes.

    • @heldermonteiro2718
      @heldermonteiro2718 Před měsícem +5

      @@smudgeyarksha3514 what?

    • @Jaydavid25.
      @Jaydavid25. Před měsícem +7

      ​@@smudgeyarksha3514 You don't have to be like that my guy.. That's extreme..

  • @JR47846
    @JR47846 Před měsícem +9

    I did some research for my university a few years ago about the missionaries in Japan. I would have to check the details since it is not my usual field of research, but I remember clearly a discussion between two missionaries about the approach the Portuguese missionaries were adopting in Japan. One of them was in favor of risking to create native missionaries; the other was against. If even the use of natives created such a discussion, I can't even imagine the idea of Africans being used as missionaries in East Asia.

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin Před 11 dny

      I always thought the jesuits were more in the local adaptation camp.

    • @JR47846
      @JR47846 Před 11 dny

      @@SusCalvin depending on who was in charge there was ofc different phases and not everyone was in favor of certain politics in the japan case there was alot of discussion and we still have some documentation in the tower of tombo in lisbon. The jesuits got alot of criticism for "interpet" the bible in ways that would be more acceptable for the natives. they end up having 4 natives as priests (or 6 im not sure) than then were event sent to europe to meet the pope and european kings if something as small as this caused so much contorversy no way they would use africans in east asia. many japanese didnt see christians in good lights you join more foreigner elements and it just gets worse

  • @harumatsu3731
    @harumatsu3731 Před měsícem +1

    literally, i mean it, the only actual record based discussion up on youtube about the woke vs showb i've trespassed.
    nice vid

  • @exister4959
    @exister4959 Před měsícem +194

    Its really weird how no one puts on a movie about cleopatra and asks "where are the japanese people" 🤔 only logical conclusion is that they hate japanese people obviously

    • @njalsand133
      @njalsand133 Před měsícem +9

      Only solution is to make a movie where the zulus somehow invade egypt

    • @MrAnthraxes
      @MrAnthraxes Před měsícem +21

      @@njalsand133 The live action "Civilization"-Movie I always hoped for? With Ghandi nuking everyone in the end? :P

    • @bob7975
      @bob7975 Před měsícem +6

      I'm of Irish descent and I am totally okay with the idea that there are no Irish people in the Bible.

    • @dukebanerjee4710
      @dukebanerjee4710 Před měsícem +8

      The "where are the black people" trope when it comes to Cleopatra at least makes some logical sense, because Egypt is in Africa. Of, course the whole thing goes off the rails when these people claim Cleopatra was black (she was Greek) or that Egypt was a "black empire" (imposing modern ideas of race onto an ancient civilization)

    • @FrankLucas-pw5hs
      @FrankLucas-pw5hs Před měsícem

      *Y'allz Racist!*
      *FACTS* are that there were *two huge Feifdoms* that were composed of *majority Black African Samurai.* For example, read the following (taken from an *expert historian* on the Tokugawa Shogunate era):
      "In the annals of Japanese history, there exists a remarkable yet little-known chapter about *two African samurais* who wielded influence during the tumultuous era of the Tokugawa shogunate. These two remarkable figures, whose origins lay in the lands of Africa, found themselves in Japan's feudal landscape, their destinies intertwined with the fate of the nation.
      One of these Africans was akin to Yasuke, the famed African retainer of Oda Nobunaga. Known for his towering stature and exceptional combat prowess, he rose through the ranks of the samurai caste, earning the respect of his peers and the trust of the powerful daimyo Toranaga/Tokugawa. With his keen strategic mind and unwavering loyalty, he established his own fiefdom, a bastion of strength in the heart of Japan.
      His companion, mirroring William Adams, was a man of unyielding determination and indomitable spirit. Embodying the spirit of endurance and resilience, he navigated the intricate web of Japanese politics with finesse, earning accolades as a master diplomat and tactician. Like Adams, he too carved out his own domain, a beacon of hope for those who sought refuge in the tumultuous times of war. *When all the Native Japanese were bloodthirsty and plotting how to burn down their opponents crops - it was these two African Samurai that were planting trees!!*
      Together, these two African samurais stood as pillars of strength, their fiefdoms serving as bastions of stability amidst the chaos of civil strife. Their allegiance to Tokugowa/Toranaga was unwavering, their skills in warfare and governance invaluable assets in the struggle for power. Through their courage and ingenuity, *they helped shape the course of Japanese history, leaving an indelible mark on the annals of time."*
      Powerful stuff, huh??
      ---------------------------------
      *APRIL FOOLS, BABY!!!!* 😂🤣😂🤡🤡

  • @RavenRunFoxRoam
    @RavenRunFoxRoam Před měsícem +346

    I'm Iranian/American. I once had a group of Afro Centrists tell me that ancient Persia was black.

    • @satyalouis-guepin7692
      @satyalouis-guepin7692 Před měsícem

      They are trying to over compensate their mediocrity by stealing other people great cultures.
      They want the prestige but without the hard work it takes to create anything great.
      They just come off as sore losers. It's really pahtetic really.

    • @Elora445
      @Elora445 Před měsícem +37

      Seriously. Could there have been black people there, sure! Especially considering the Persian empire, how widespread it was plus their trading with pretty much anyone.But calling the culture itself black? No, just no.

    • @satyalouis-guepin7692
      @satyalouis-guepin7692 Před měsícem +32

      @@Elora445
      There were they are still there in some places. But they were ... slaves.

    • @Elora445
      @Elora445 Před měsícem +6

      @@satyalouis-guepin7692
      You are speaking to someone who is very well aware who was trading with who and which cultures had slaves (most of them). But indeed.

    • @rachelcoleman4693
      @rachelcoleman4693 Před měsícem +28

      There are even people who claim that Finland used to be black.

  • @elderhiker7787
    @elderhiker7787 Před měsícem +2

    Wow! Well done. At first, I was willing to blow off this idea as pure nonsense, but your thorough research has opened my awareness to a more inclusive viewpoint. Again I say, well done. I applaud your efforts. Thanks for taking the time to enlighten us all.

  • @bobchronister3429
    @bobchronister3429 Před měsícem +2

    As usual, spot on analysis. Thank you for your thoughtful insight

  • @richardhoare9963
    @richardhoare9963 Před měsícem +357

    I thought it was an April fool gag until I saw the original article was published three weeks ago 🤣

    • @nomdeguerre8464
      @nomdeguerre8464 Před měsícem +40

      "Fool" still applies.

    • @nemanjastevanov9980
      @nemanjastevanov9980 Před měsícem +2

      Author knew that Metatron will make a video about his article on April 1st... :D

    • @RetributionofPain
      @RetributionofPain Před měsícem

      oh but we knew this dumbass take was coming. There's no way a show released in current year with no black characters would immediately raise this stupid question. Give it time they'll ask where the transexuals, gays and non-binaries were. This was an article aiming to click bait farm by politicizing something.

    • @FrankLucas-pw5hs
      @FrankLucas-pw5hs Před měsícem

      *Y'allz Racist!*
      *FACTS* are that there were *two huge Feifdoms* that were composed of *majority Black African Samurai.* For example, read the following (taken from an *expert historian* on the Tokugawa Shogunate era):
      "In the annals of Japanese history, there exists a remarkable yet little-known chapter about *two African samurais* who wielded influence during the tumultuous era of the Tokugawa shogunate. These two remarkable figures, whose origins lay in the lands of Africa, found themselves in Japan's feudal landscape, their destinies intertwined with the fate of the nation.
      One of these Africans was akin to Yasuke, the famed African retainer of Oda Nobunaga. Known for his towering stature and exceptional combat prowess, he rose through the ranks of the samurai caste, earning the respect of his peers and the trust of the powerful daimyo Toranaga/Tokugawa. With his keen strategic mind and unwavering loyalty, he established his own fiefdom, a bastion of strength in the heart of Japan.
      His companion, mirroring William Adams, was a man of unyielding determination and indomitable spirit. Embodying the spirit of endurance and resilience, he navigated the intricate web of Japanese politics with finesse, earning accolades as a master diplomat and tactician. Like Adams, he too carved out his own domain, a beacon of hope for those who sought refuge in the tumultuous times of war. *When all the Native Japanese were bloodthirsty and plotting how to burn down their opponents crops - it was these two African Samurai that were planting trees!!*
      Together, these two African samurais stood as pillars of strength, their fiefdoms serving as bastions of stability amidst the chaos of civil strife. Their allegiance to Tokugowa/Toranaga was unwavering, their skills in warfare and governance invaluable assets in the struggle for power. Through their courage and ingenuity, *they helped shape the course of Japanese history, leaving an indelible mark on the annals of time."*
      Powerful stuff, huh??
      ---------------------------------
      *APRIL FOOLS, BABY!!!!* 😂🤣😂🤡🤡

    • @I_Love_Puzzle_from_Arknights
      @I_Love_Puzzle_from_Arknights Před měsícem +1

      Advance April fool gag

  • @themeanmachine84
    @themeanmachine84 Před měsícem +232

    What I want to know is why those people are not making movies about actual African kingdoms, kings, queens and stories and instead are trying to forcefully inject blacks to other cultures? Black Cleopatra, black samurai, black English royalty, black this, black that... Really? I'm just waiting for my country to be dragged into this nonsense and then I will be really pissed off. Because for over 1000 years of its existence, it had never things like "black king", "black prince" or "black nobleman" etc.

    • @ChaoticYak1
      @ChaoticYak1 Před měsícem +40

      YES! I have very little knowledge of sub-Saharan Africa, but I learned a bit when I was teaching an introductory humanities course and I was able to touch on some of the ancient African cultures, like ancient Zimbabwe and the Aksum civilization in Ethiopia and others that I don't know about. If they want people to appreciate African culture, why don't they actually study THAT instead of trying to take everyone else's? Do they not think their own cultural ancestry is unimportant?

    • @civizojin
      @civizojin Před měsícem

      I think the deliberate ignoring of African history is done to avoid the awkward truth that Africa, like the rest of the world, committed slavery and isnt pure and innocent

    • @rzella8022
      @rzella8022 Před měsícem +23

      @@JT-qc9nb Like fictional Wakanda.

    • @WarlockofThorns
      @WarlockofThorns Před měsícem +6

      Outside of the fantasy segments like werebears, mechs, ect. Yasuke the Black Samurai actually existed. Nobunaga Oda even made him a retainer and gave him land. His other retainers were really upset by this and Mistuhide possibly imprisoned and resold him into slavery after Oda's death. They arent forcefully injecting there. They're using history as inspiration to tell a story. There are also historic paintings that show Black people throughout europe in places. Look up John Blanke the Trumpeteer for King Henry VIII. There should be more stories about the Afican people though.

    • @betat.4974
      @betat.4974 Před měsícem +11

      ​@@WarlockofThornsThat was decades before this show came. Timeline is different.

  • @scotthockman3060
    @scotthockman3060 Před měsícem

    what i find interesting is that, when the artical issues a discription of the "Shogun" in question, he does not really (aside from the hair, but even then, its not truly direct) describe the Phinotype or nationality in question... rather, to my knowlage, it sounds more like a discription of a person with possible Neanderthal heritage... that, as i would hope many people would know, does not indicate color, race, or nationality, but rather a different genome...
    Just found this interesting... and i am PROBABLY wrong, or at least grasping at straws.. thank you, @Metatron, for always being a voice of reason in these crazy times :D

  • @CGOLAN
    @CGOLAN Před měsícem +1

    Each video from Metatron I spend time on is valuable! Keep up doing great job!

  • @venturini09
    @venturini09 Před měsícem +131

    They’re hanging out with the Hispanics in the actors lounge waiting to be cast in 99 of the next 100 TV commercials.

    • @s.b.sieber2007
      @s.b.sieber2007 Před měsícem

      Along with the same sex couples and their mixed-race children.

    • @scarletlegg
      @scarletlegg Před měsícem +4

      Yes, that happened overnight once Biden became president.

    • @mindfu11dr0n3
      @mindfu11dr0n3 Před měsícem +4

      As a Mexican I need to say that, that was funny. Lol.

    • @thebeezknees
      @thebeezknees Před měsícem +2

      so many white commercial actor out of work nowa days.

    • @globalpropertyinvestment
      @globalpropertyinvestment Před měsícem +8

      Its the same nonsense in Ireland, 4% of the population yet are in 95% of the TV Ads. I'm starting to think when they arrive at Dublin Airport, they are given a complimentary actors guild card.

  • @lynnhall8720
    @lynnhall8720 Před měsícem +474

    In Welsh mythology, Gwynn ap Nudd, the King of the Underworld, and Welsh faeries, the Tylwyth Teg, is sometimes referred to as "black" because of his residence in the Underworld. But modern scholars use this as "evidence" that the Welsh faeries were black, therefore all the characters that appear in the Welsh collection of folktales, The Mabinogeon, were also black. Last year, a depiction of the Celtic goddess Bridget, was depicted as an overweight black woman. This is appropriation of a whole culture! 😠

    • @nvelsen1975
      @nvelsen1975 Před měsícem +32

      How strange! I mean, who the would want to be Welsh, nevermind pretend?

    • @inferiorinferno8859
      @inferiorinferno8859 Před měsícem

      The funny thing: the black thing and the underworld thing is in turn in line with the Germanic tales of what can be considered the oldest variant of the Wild Hunt myth, which depicts the Wild Hunt being the souls of people who died a violent death and Germanic tribes wore black warpaint as it symbolized death. This actually inspired the so-called 'Blackface' traidition behind the Dutch Sinterklaas and why BLM's propoganda about it being adopted in the colonial times is false. People simply thought black people were less mysstical during the Renaissance and opted to change the meaning. I hate how they've gotten us shamed by the UN for having such a tradition when the origins have nothing to do with race and keeping the afro wigs out of it was the easiest solution to solve the issue.

    • @Kainis80
      @Kainis80 Před měsícem +92

      therein is the problem with most black westerners. They are often too disinterested in learning history, and indeed claim they don't really have one of their own "because slavery", and then turn around and appropriate those from whatever is deemed the current "it" culture, whether it's Egypt, Danish, Irish, Welsh (you ought to hear them try and claim Arthur Pendragon was black), or even meso-American. All the while being completely uninterested in learning about their own ancient cultures from Sub-Saharan Africa.

    • @dkeith45
      @dkeith45 Před měsícem +57

      Many of those Keltic names referred to the color of the persons HAIR. Some examples from Scotland are Rob Dubh which means Rob Black. And Rob Roy, which means Rob Red. Ofc the English speakers turn the names around a bit and would say Black Rob and Red Roy. It's also known those from the Keltic underworld were often referred to as 'Dark'. Some ppl considered to be related to Elves, fairies, shifters etc were sometimes called 'Dark ones' referring to their supposed heritage, not their skin color.

    • @UnLancheroMuyPenudo
      @UnLancheroMuyPenudo Před měsícem

      Its their fault for not mentioning in the tales if they had human sizes cocks or not. Or how good they were at dunkin' it.

  • @AS-Pra1.0
    @AS-Pra1.0 Před měsícem +1

    I appreciate that you pointed out the facts and reality with an opened mind, as well as mentioned that some terms used today were used in the past differently or in a different way.

  • @juniisenpai3777
    @juniisenpai3777 Před měsícem

    Great and Informative video, good days sirs.

  • @E4_MAFIA
    @E4_MAFIA Před měsícem +264

    This stuff is absolutely insane… Seriously, the population would have been so small, it was insignificant. Why is it that we are constantly seeing demands that black people be included in things that had nothing to do with them?

    • @alexmeanin8049
      @alexmeanin8049 Před měsícem +24

      Yep! For example: the film "Apollo 13" does not have Afro-Americans in the space vessel crew. Ridiculous!

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 Před měsícem +31

      there were barely any foreigners in japan to begin with, not even there neighbors were there

    • @andychrist2922
      @andychrist2922 Před měsícem +5

      Because of the rise of autism within the community, this makes it hard for people to relate to people that aren't similar to themselves imo.

    • @justinhumphrey1516
      @justinhumphrey1516 Před měsícem +10

      I think people are trying to rewrite history similar to the way colonizers did. It’s a sick example to follow.

    • @andychrist2922
      @andychrist2922 Před měsícem +4

      @@justinhumphrey1516 they didn't "rewrite" anything they just have bias

  • @greendalf123
    @greendalf123 Před měsícem +381

    I'll never forget I saw an article posted up as a meme once, where some African-American SJW type wrote about how one of the earliest Serbian kings/chiefs was black. I was surprised by this, since I'm Croatian and can read Serbian. Turns out they were talking about a Serbian warlord nicknamed Black George (Karadorde). These people actually believe when they see the word "black" describing someone it must literally mean their skin colour. Black George was given that nickname due to being a violent warlord and rebel against the Ottomans. Black is often associated with evil or violence in Europe. So that "black blood" could just mean "evil blood" aka comiting violence and being a bit of a brute. Not being a sub-saharan black man rofl. It's so comical.
    And as a funny random aside, the first time my friends Croatian grandparents ever saw a black person was when they moved to the US in the 90's.
    P.S - and yeah sure, I would have liked to see a couple of black sailors on the Dutch ships. I think that's totally fine and accurate... but since said Dutch ships weren't in force in the film, the fact that we have zero black people is a-ok.

    • @ericadunn9435
      @ericadunn9435 Před měsícem +100

      Maybe the Black Forest in Germany is where the black people lived 😅

    • @BelaFox-vt5xu
      @BelaFox-vt5xu Před měsícem +50

      @@ericadunn9435 And Edward Black Prince was... You know, it feels like there might be an HBO show about him soon

    • @backintimealwyn5736
      @backintimealwyn5736 Před měsícem +36

      it's geting do pathetic seriously. It's almost sad. They claim anything but their own heritage. They are some interesting in Africa, and there is room for more archeologist interested in diging things up ... unfortunately the very people that should be doing that are more interested in claiming other people's civilizations.

    • @shegocrazy
      @shegocrazy Před měsícem +15

      @@BelaFox-vt5xu There was another British royal that AfAms have appropriated that they say proves the English Monarchy has "black" blood. Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz. Believe it or not.

    • @Eagle-eye-pie
      @Eagle-eye-pie Před měsícem

      @@backintimealwyn5736if they claim their own heritage, they will have to accept their part in the Atlantic slave trade.

  • @christinekaiser8382
    @christinekaiser8382 Před 19 dny +1

    Thank you for an intelligent discussion based on real history and research. You're a pleasant anomaly.

  • @davidyasui4103
    @davidyasui4103 Před měsícem +2

    Thanks for your research and presentation on this topic. You did a well balanced presentation, backed up with logical and documented statenents. I agree that the number of black people in Japan at that time was very low statistically. I was surprised (and learned somthing) that was a black person in the service of one of the warlords. And "white savior"?? You shut that down effectively, as the damiyos were trying to use Blackthorne for their ends, not the othet way around. Good job!

  • @RivetHead999
    @RivetHead999 Před měsícem +230

    “Black blood” does NOT mean African ancestry. Thats 21st century western mentality applied ancient Japanese perspective. Black in Japanese culture means “darkness” so to speak. It can also mean cowardice, or evil, depending on context. One of the thoughts on seppuku is to show “my blood/intestines are not black” in a display of loyalty and bravery.
    I’ll have to try to find the book I used
    To have that talked a bit about the Japanese and death, it had sections specifically referencing seppuku as well as jisei (death poems) and aspects about Japanese superstition, beliefs, and death.
    Black blood was also “black guts” or “black intestines” which when you told someone their stomach was black, it was an insult.

    • @sweptinblack
      @sweptinblack Před měsícem

      Sounds like white devil trickery to me, damn albinoids

    • @wattlebough
      @wattlebough Před měsícem +10

      Reminds of the book title allegedly based on a chinese proverb called Thick Face, Black Heart.

    • @yo49315
      @yo49315 Před měsícem +4

      In this context it actually does mean African ancestry. A 19th century French doctor Maget believed Japanese were a mix between Malay (whom he believed to be Africans) and Ainu.

    • @jimmy-iw3sb
      @jimmy-iw3sb Před měsícem

      ​@@yo49315shut the hell up

    • @EyeOfTheWatcher
      @EyeOfTheWatcher Před měsícem +23

      @@yo49315 Just because someone propose a theory does not make it true. By your logic black people should be categorize as sub human because of a few people propose it to be true.

  • @rogervandusen8361
    @rogervandusen8361 Před měsícem +660

    As with all those people motivated by ideology , they are not above falsifying/lying to reinforce an argument. They want to see the past as it "should be", not as it was.

    • @Grandwigg
      @Grandwigg Před měsícem +18

      I wonder if folks try to rationalize it by saying or thinking that it's 'just an embellishment' for the sake of 'the cause'

    • @ChaoticYak1
      @ChaoticYak1 Před měsícem +23

      The "should be" always confuses me. If you live in a diverse society, certainly, all groups should have equal rights, but in reality, there is nothing inherently better about a diverse society vs. a homogenous society. It doesn't make the society better if you shoehorn in different ethnic groups.

    • @DccAnh
      @DccAnh Před měsícem +1

      @@ChaoticYak1 in fact, diverse society is worse than homogenous society, it provide no benefit yet introduce problems like racism, prejudice and breed conflict between different group within the community.

    • @rzella8022
      @rzella8022 Před měsícem

      @@ChaoticYak1 Diversity is not a strength, but a weakness. First lie. There is an agenda to weaken Western white Christian countries by a certain group, using blacks and illegals to destroy the West. This group also feeds the victimhood trope by giving it much media and educational system coverage. We truly are in an underhanded w a r.

    • @RandomPerson-nd2ey
      @RandomPerson-nd2ey Před měsícem +8

      While also altering it the other way to make the groups they dislike seem worse than they actually were. For example, removing the context for certain events. The Crusades come to mind as an example. Yes, they were brutal *but also* they were in response to the Muslim Wars of Expansion which were also brutal. Neither side was "good" by modern standards.

  • @stephengrummitt9079
    @stephengrummitt9079 Před měsícem

    you explain everything so well very cool

  • @Halo44327
    @Halo44327 Před měsícem +5

    Slightly a bit off topic but I’d love to see a movie about the oppression of Christianity in Japan. It did happen. Justo Takayama is one of my personal favorite samurai known for serving Oda. After, he served under Hideyoshi . Takayama also destroyed several Buddhist temples. Hideyoshi was very hostile towards Christian’s so Takayama gave up his land as he did not want to give up his faith. He was protected by Toshiie one of the main leading generals who served Oda. After Hideyoshi passed away, and Ieyasu unified Japan, Ieyasu banned Christianity. Due to that Takayama and about 200 Christian’s were exiled from Japan. He ended up in the phillippines where he was welcomed by the Spanish and Filipino locals and passed away there. He was loved so much that the Spanish Filipino proposed the idea of invading Japan.

    • @coreyrutherford7231
      @coreyrutherford7231 Před měsícem +1

      Look up a movie called silence. It has Liam Neison, Adam driver, and Andrew Garfield

  • @tomhalla426
    @tomhalla426 Před měsícem +208

    White savior? The plot of both the novel and 1980 series was about Blackthorne being used by Toranaga, not the reverse.

    • @colorpg152
      @colorpg152 Před měsícem

      seriously now why is it wrong for white people to save others? why should the good deeds of people who stood against slavery and other evils not be praised?

    • @elenabob4953
      @elenabob4953 Před měsícem

      Imagine having a story about a naufragiated person in a completely different culture trying to survive being presented as a "white saviour" story.
      Those people really live in delulu land.

    • @melaninfarmer
      @melaninfarmer Před měsícem

      THey just hate white people

    • @henrikaugustsson4041
      @henrikaugustsson4041 Před měsícem +15

      Not only that, these people actually existed!

    • @michaeltelson9798
      @michaeltelson9798 Před měsícem +9

      The same in China during the Ming dynasty. Reading Castiglione’s biography. The Jesuits weren’t allowed to mix with the general population after the initial emperor. One was ordered to oversee the production of cannon of European design, place other tasks as the Emperor at the time declared.
      I could see that the authorities would take the opportunity to milk him dry of information.

  • @davidk6269
    @davidk6269 Před měsícem +228

    On a related note, I'm outraged that there were no Japanese people in the 1986 television mini-series "Shaka Zulu"!!! LOL

    • @morghe321
      @morghe321 Před měsícem +10

      Good point.

    • @MagcargoMan
      @MagcargoMan Před měsícem +3

      It says a lot about you people that the only black historical figure you ever bother naming was a tribal leader.

    • @redjem6918
      @redjem6918 Před měsícem +29

      ​@@MagcargoManhe didn't name a historical figure, he named a 1986 movie.

    • @MagcargoMan
      @MagcargoMan Před měsícem +4

      @@redjem6918 And where does that movie's name come from, brightspark?

    • @redjem6918
      @redjem6918 Před měsícem +44

      ​@MagcargoMan from the mid-nineteenth century Zulu king who murdered one million Africans in his quest to build an empire. But you completely missed the point: the comment was about representation in contemporary entertainment, not about historical figures. Smartarse.

  • @michaelstagar525
    @michaelstagar525 Před měsícem

    A scholastic outstanding review and analysis.

  • @Farinhir
    @Farinhir Před měsícem +3

    Umm, during the time that Shogun was supposed to take place, the Tokugawa period for those wondering, Japan traded solely with the Dutch and Chinese. And for that they had a specific harbor by which said foreigners were allowed to approach. They were an entirely closed society. No whites allowed. No blacks allowed. Nobody of Latin origin allowed. Nobody that was not ethnically Japanese was allowed. Usually to be put to death if they did try to enter. So where were all the blacks? Either elsewhere or dead.

  • @dski8097
    @dski8097 Před měsícem +1294

    Africa, getting rounded up by the Muslim slavers and other black tribes like the Dahome.

    • @thomashauer6804
      @thomashauer6804 Před měsícem +245

      Yep everybody blames the dutch Englisch and spanish but forgets the arabs

    • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
      @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 Před měsícem +42

      I came to write this exactly comment.

    • @m0-m0597
      @m0-m0597 Před měsícem +20

      It's time to watch Afro Samurai again

    • @brunoactis1104
      @brunoactis1104 Před měsícem

      ​@@thomashauer6804Everybody now's trying to blame the arabs so people forget about the dutch or english at this point.

    • @JohnJoatan
      @JohnJoatan Před měsícem +102

      @@thomashauer6804because that doesn’t fit their narrative.

  • @ken-qg7bd
    @ken-qg7bd Před měsícem +145

    As a Japanese, I thank you.
    I will try to keep it short and simple, but Sakanoue No Tamuramaro's origins are clearly documented in official histories, and he is not of African descent, as is obvious.
    The Ainu are not of African descent.
    As for proverbs, I have never heard of such proverbs.
    To begin with, there is a Japanese proverb, "uji yori sodatch," which was established in the 16th and 17th centuries to recognize the importance of acquired education and environment over bloodline.
    Therefore, this is clearly not a Japanese proverb.

    • @alias-wave
      @alias-wave Před měsícem +9

      Let me add a few words.
      The Ainu people were established in the 14th century, so they did not exist at the time of Sakanoue-no Tamuramaro
      The Ainu people came into existence in the 14th century when Mongolian troops invaded Sakhalin and the residents of Hokkaido mixed with Okhotskis who fled to Hokkaido. The Ainu people are not indigenous to Japan and have nothing to do with black people.

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 Před měsícem

      @@alias-wave arent the ainu supposedly the natives of hokkaido? Plus why did they look different? and why some Japanese look different. It feels like japan out of the 3 main east asian countries have the most different looks out of the 3.

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 Před měsícem

      so what are ainu?

    • @manchen3536
      @manchen3536 Před měsícem

      They are brainwashing dump youngsters. These youngsters don’t care about truth or research.

    • @VVayVVard
      @VVayVVard Před měsícem +2

      @@jmgonzales7701 The Ainu look similar to, and share genetic features with, indigenous people of Northeastern Russia and North America. So presumably they branched out from the groups that migrated from Asia to North America some 10,000~30,000 years ago.

  • @normanroaten9132
    @normanroaten9132 Před měsícem

    I do so appreciate your attempt to convey history as it was. Thanks

  • @mtreadwell01
    @mtreadwell01 Před měsícem

    Brilliant and unbiased. Thank you!

  • @BIATEC88
    @BIATEC88 Před měsícem +85

    How could anyone accuse the character of being a "White Saviour" the man is completely at their mercy.

    • @skaarphy5797
      @skaarphy5797 Před měsícem +9

      I think he couldn't quite differentiate between "hero of the story" and "white savior".

    • @jean-louispech4921
      @jean-louispech4921 Před měsícem +4

      oh yes now i have some memories about the original serial, and it was always tense for the hero.
      The guy was more the savior of his life than the savior of the Japaneses.

    • @JohnSmith-op7ls
      @JohnSmith-op7ls Před měsícem +3

      Once you realize they know they’re lying and their goal isn’t to present any truth, but to mislead you into giving them money and power, you no longer have to ask “how” or “why”. The answer is always the same: It’s a con

    • @Sgtspork
      @Sgtspork Před měsícem +1

      Sure, he is a character who's perspective we see most of the story through... Ie a main protagonist..
      But he's far from the white savior trope. Hell, he's not even the dances with wolves trope really. He's just trying to survive and thrive as best he can under the current circumstances he finds himself in.
      Sure his new weapon tech and battle tactics are valued by the Japanese noble but he's far from some savior, lol.. he's not even that skilled in those things and bluffed a bit for his survival by inflating his potential worth.

    • @morell1185
      @morell1185 Před měsícem

      Hes tom cruise in the last samurai

  • @RCD566
    @RCD566 Před měsícem +173

    The "Black Blood," comment reminds me of an argument a CZcamsr made last year. This person claimed that a person being called "Black", in English historic records, such as the Spanish was an obvious reference to Spanish actually being African. However sensible people understand that the Spanish have a Mediterranean complexion, jet black hair and wore dark clothing. The term "Black" could also be used to define a persons character e.g. "Black hearted."

    • @chrisgibson5267
      @chrisgibson5267 Před měsícem +28

      Black was often used as a nickname in England prior to the widespread immigration of black people into the country in the late 20th century.
      The English Parliamentarian general Sir Thomas Fairfax was referred to as Black Tom due to his dark hair and features.
      The English pub name Black Boy is believed to be derived from Queen Henrietta's nickname for her son Charles Suart, Charles II.
      This was for exactly the same reason as Thomas Fairfax.
      NB Charles was a popular monarch, hence the number of pubs bearing the name Black Boy and Royal Oak.
      Another term was Blackamoor which was used to refer to North African and Arab Muslims.

    • @acdcljb
      @acdcljb Před měsícem +15

      Or, you know, people who primarily/often wear black clothes. There are many black things in the world.

    • @dragonsman4733
      @dragonsman4733 Před měsícem +16

      Yeah like Blackbeard, he wasn't called that because of his skin, he was called it because of his famous beard

    • @Knoloaify
      @Knoloaify Před měsícem +18

      Colors in general aren't always to be taken literally indeed.
      Bertrand du Guesclin, the Breton general who fought for the Kingdom of France during the Hundred Years War, was described as "black" in period writings. But when you take a look at art from that same period or his tomb effigy, he is obviously not a black African.
      He was just a Breton with a darker skin tone than his peers and was represented as such. But just having darker skin, was enough for him to be called "black", because that's how the people around him perceived it (most likely because the darkest skin they'd seen was on very tanned Europeans).

    • @RCD566
      @RCD566 Před měsícem +6

      @@Knoloaify Yes and the same people don't bother to look for actual historic facts. Using French history, apparently few people know that the famous author, Alexandre Dumas, came from African decent. His paternal Grandmother was a plantation slave and his father, Thomas-Alexandre Dumas Davy de la Pailleterie, was Black and served long enough to become brigadier general, divisional general, and general-in-chief of the French army. So by todays standards, the writer of "The Three Musketeers," was Black.

  • @cobusvanderlinde6871
    @cobusvanderlinde6871 Před 6 dny +3

    It turns out the black people in Shogun are in Assassin's Creed: Shadows

  • @joelborden3242
    @joelborden3242 Před měsícem

    Thank you for bringing clarity to the issue.

  • @Hathur
    @Hathur Před měsícem +222

    It's like when my relatives from Poland visited me here in Canada. None of them had ever met a black person in Poland, they had only seen them on tv / the internet (population of black people in Poland is less than 0.1%) Yet here, in a single day arriving in Toronto, they saw a few hundred different black people in downtown Toronto in a matter of hours. Go figure, if only 1 in 1000 people happen to be black in your country, the odds of you meeting them is extremely low. The black people living in Japan would've been so rare / few that they were just statistically speaking, irrelevant.

    • @WagesOfDestruction
      @WagesOfDestruction Před měsícem +16

      In Australia, I never saw a black person till I was late in my teens; when I saw one, I was amazed.

    • @alias-wave
      @alias-wave Před měsícem +4

      ​@@WagesOfDestruction In Australia, the Anglo-Saxons exterminated the Tasmanian Islanders and used the Aborigines as hunting (recreational) targets, so maybe you didn't see the blacks who became the overwhelming minority.

    • @idnintel
      @idnintel Před měsícem

      @@alias-wave are you trying to start some conflict again by dredging up something some people did a long time ago that is no longer relevant to the people currently living there...or something.

    • @WagesOfDestruction
      @WagesOfDestruction Před měsícem +17

      @@alias-wave Tasmania is far away from me. The other issue is that most of the Australian Aborigines near me are so integrated into the white population through intermarriage that they look to me as white.

    • @alias-wave
      @alias-wave Před měsícem +1

      @@WagesOfDestruction What is the current education in Australia about White Australia policy that once existed?
      Is it taught that Australia was a penal colony and a continent that sent its abandoned people?
      Didn't Australia, with its White Australia policy, forcibly take children from Aborigines and raise them as adopted children of whites?

  • @mikelincoln8395
    @mikelincoln8395 Před měsícem +146

    The BBC has children’s programmes saying the English and the Irish were actually black. They even show Black African’s in Celtic mythology and Celtic dress.

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 Před měsícem

      Supposedly The Twa pygmies of The Congo who migrated to Ireland were the inspiration for leprechauns /Wee people
      There's lots of evidence to this also

    • @ElectricSoul828
      @ElectricSoul828 Před měsícem

      This is disturbing. Weak Europeans let their history and culture be corrupted

    • @slynt_
      @slynt_ Před měsícem +40

      @@adamjoyce3126 Survive the Jive has debunked the "ancient britons/irish were black" myth

    • @CuchulainAD
      @CuchulainAD Před měsícem +12

      ​@@adamjoyce3126No that's RTE propaganda... don't believe the hype

    • @Tallorian
      @Tallorian Před měsícem

      @@adamjoyce3126depictions of mesolithic western hunter-gatherers are often intentionally darkened by the media to make them look almost subsaharan black. I recall seeing a comparison on how scientists actually color them compared to how the same images appear in woke articles online (very blackened).

  • @ImissSaganCarl
    @ImissSaganCarl Před 26 dny +1

    Excellent and thorough analysis. Well done!

  • @elizabethmulgrew7873
    @elizabethmulgrew7873 Před měsícem +3

    It seems that blacks in Japan in that era were of 2 types: 1) The servant of a Portuguese who impressed the Japanese, won his freedom, and prospered in their society. He is interesting enough to make a separate movie about his life and experiences with him as the protagonist, as Blackthorne is in this series. But unless his path crossed Blackthorne's (Adams'), I don't think it's wrong that he isn't in this current series. It would be like leaving Pocahontas out of a series about Sir Frances Drake. This series is more of an enacted historical documentary rather than historical fiction. 2) A few sailors on Dutch ships who would not have left the seaports, or body servants of Europeans. Again, this is so minor I can't see what the fuss is about. OK, so they left 1 or 2 extras out of a few scenes. No big deal. Thanks for your analysis Metatron!

  • @emmitstewart1921
    @emmitstewart1921 Před měsícem +113

    As for the "White Saviour" motif, the hero was totally manipulated by the shogun from the beginning. He never saved, led, or taught the Japanese anything except for teaching his workers some western principles of shipbuilding. His descendants appear as the Anjin family in the novel Noble House. Apparently, he never got his ship built and never returned to England, though his descendants continued building ships up to modern times.

    • @ChaoticYak1
      @ChaoticYak1 Před měsícem +6

      Oh really? I didn't know it was connected to Noble House. I haven't read the book, but there was a 1980s miniseries starring Pierce Brosnan that I watched.

    • @shavannya
      @shavannya Před měsícem +2

      @@ChaoticYak1 you watch wrong tv. NEVER pierce brosnan it was Richard Chamberlain. 😂

    • @ChaoticYak1
      @ChaoticYak1 Před měsícem +8

      @@shavannya Noble House was made into a miniseries in 1988 and it starred Pierce Brosnan. I'm not talking about the 80s miniseries of Shogun.

    • @petrospetromixos6962
      @petrospetromixos6962 Před měsícem +3

      White savior movies are best movies,they make sence

    • @unknown-fq9sw
      @unknown-fq9sw Před měsícem

      ​@@petrospetromixos6962 how does it make sense tho ? and maybe try to ask the people from the culture that ofren used in white savior movie how they feel about it

  • @digitalperson108
    @digitalperson108 Před měsícem +250

    I swear, if people put as much energy into being helpful and productive in society as they do being outraged and attempting to support non-existent infractions such as this…..oh what a world we would have!

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  Před měsícem +26

      I agree

    • @madyjules
      @madyjules Před měsícem +7

      @@metatronyt my reply is a TL:DR for everyone else. read it if you want it’ll probably bore the shit out of you. lol
      Hey Meta, great vid dude, thank you.
      Meta., you asked for impressions and here’s mine in 3 points:
      1 I honestly think that the recent ridiculous and frankly embarrassing attempts to place Black people in settings where they were never present is a reactionary attempt by Black peoples (see below). it’s also a sad attempt to create an inclusion that never existed and minimize depressing representation. BUT obviously this isn’t the answer either… Shoehorning Black people into settings which are historically inaccurate is false and ridiculous This doesn’t help anyone… unless it’s a fantasy show (House of the Dragon , for example) this needs to stop. A glaring example of one of those ridiculous attempts at an inclusion that never occurred was the Netflix show that showed Cleopatra as black and that is completely inaccurate. I know my history, the last pharaoh of Egypt, Cleopatra, was Greek and Macedonian. why cling on to falsehoods like this it helps no one. It doesn’t help Black people and it causes those with racist leanings to come out of the woodwork and wreak havoc for their own glee and enjoyment.
      2 depressing representation of Black people has existed since the infancy of the film and television industry. Can you imagine what it must do to people to only see themselves portrayed as slaves and otherwise individuals with no personal agency? I know it would depress the hell out of me if my people, Italians, were constantly displayed in this way!
      Yes we’ve made the necessary films and movies displaying the horrific evils done to Black peoples for hundreds of years and these films and TV series are important for each new generation to be aware of and watch. but they’re also needs to be NEW films and TV based on the true history of Black peoples back before enslavement and horrific oppression that existed both on the African continent and around the world.
      To the deepest depths of hell with people like Ron DeSantis and many others who are determined to push through curriculums devoid of fully educating young people on the atrocities perpetrated upon Black and indigenous peoples (especially all the many Native American tribes ) because knowledge of this history might make white kids feel bad!! give me a f’ing break!! Oh no, their feelings might get hurt!! Hell w that -> True and full knowledge of human history, both the good and the truly freaking awful committed by our messed up species, is crucial.
      3. there is a real need to make accurate movies and TV shows displaying the rich and historically accurate history of African peoples. the entertainment industry is showing Black people where they weren’t in the past; or people are getting outraged because there’s no black representation in movies or shows when it makes absolutely no sense that you should expect a black person to be present or part of said show as you aptly discuss in this Shōgun video.
      I blame the entertainment industry because: with very
      few exceptions they continue to churn out depressing and ultimately dehumanizing movies and series displaying only the painful experiences of Black people i.e. slavery, oppression, and terrifying experiences, like lynching.
      As stated earlier, the African continent, has a rich and amazing history. My eyes were opened to this when I watched the incredibly well done six episodes series, “Africa’s Great Civilizations“ presented by Dr. Henry Lewis Gates, Jr. I watched it on PBS (it’s available on PBS.org) and it’s also available on other streaming channels like Amazon Prime for anyone who’s interested.
      I encourage everyone to watch this show. We’re one human family, no matter the shade of our skin or the color of our eyes, etc..
      I think the reason why Black people look for something to desperately hang on to is because they’ve been stripped of so much. how about our media begin to make stories from the true and rich history of the African continent and its people
      Full disclosure: I’m white, specifically Italian-American with ancestors (grandparents and great grandparents and further back for many centuries from Lecce in Apulia on my paternal side and from Salerno and Caserta on my maternal side) and because I’m white , I expect that many who read my comment will tell me I have no right to discuss this…
      Nevertheless my message is supportive and positive. Having been born and raised in the USA with very Italian grandparents and parents on both sides of my family; I’ve been immersed in both the American and Italian cultures from infancy. With several trips back to Italy, my ancestral homeland. I know it gives me a great sense of pride to know who I am, and where I come from, as well as the rich, cultural history that comes with being of Italian ancestry.
      Can you imagine being stripped of this? Well, that’s the reality for people who are part of the Black diaspora. It must be soul crushing. Instead of being critical and negative, how about we try to have empathy and compassion? how about making an effort to show the accurate and rich achievements that make up the history of black peoples of the African continent as well as those of Black individuals living outside of Africa. In the meantime, give that Henry Lewis Gates, Jr. show a watch… it’s worth your time, and I say this with all sincerity and respect to everyone, no matter the color of your skin. we must respect each other, truly respect each other, and often respect only comes with understanding. Peace.

    • @audioiconoclayst
      @audioiconoclayst Před měsícem +1

      Well put

    • @t-bonet-bone713
      @t-bonet-bone713 Před měsícem

      Hear hear!!

    • @sadizm
      @sadizm Před měsícem

      hahahah LOVE IT!

  • @bendalton5221
    @bendalton5221 Před měsícem +6

    even including the Ainu people from the original article, there were not black people in Japan in 1600. The Ainu aren't very dark skinned, hardly any different than what we think of as traditional Japanese people. Plus, The Ainu were indigenous to the northern island of Hokkaido, plus the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin Island. Given that the vast majority of "Shogun" takes place in the area around Kyoto and Edo (Tokyo), it would follow that you would not have any Ainu in this story.
    An analogy would be if I wrote a story about people first settled in Virginia, and all of the settings for the story were in the area between Richmond and Fredericksburg, and someone got pissed because they wondered why there weren't any Cajuns from Louisiana in the story

    • @olewyrdd
      @olewyrdd Před 21 hodinou

      Or why no Japanese?

  • @denniswiggins3816
    @denniswiggins3816 Před měsícem +3

    American's fighting in the pacific didn't document any black Japanese soldiers or sailors fighting them in WWII that I know of.

  • @dragonofhatefulretribution9041
    @dragonofhatefulretribution9041 Před měsícem +133

    “Where are the black people in Sh…”
    -Exactly where they should be. *Not Japan.*

    • @nomisunrider6472
      @nomisunrider6472 Před měsícem +1

      Look up Yasuke and get back to me.

    • @TossMySalad69
      @TossMySalad69 Před měsícem +24

      ​@@nomisunrider6472 It still was 99.99% Japanese mate and he's the only recorded black man in Japan from that time that we know of.

    • @nomisunrider6472
      @nomisunrider6472 Před měsícem

      @@TossMySalad69 And William Adams was one of the only recorded white men and yet he gets to be a major protagonist.
      Edit: sorry for the spam it wasn’t going through.

    • @jacquelineking5783
      @jacquelineking5783 Před měsícem +16

      Because that is the protagonist of the book or at least the major POV character. Feel free to write a book on Yasuke, do so well it becomes a best seller, and let a production company make it into a TV or movie.

    • @FrankLucas-pw5hs
      @FrankLucas-pw5hs Před měsícem

      *Y'allz Racist!*
      *FACTS* are that there were *two huge Feifdoms* that were composed of *majority Black African Samurai.* For example, read the following (taken from an *expert historian* on the Tokugawa Shogunate era):
      "In the annals of Japanese history, there exists a remarkable yet little-known chapter about *two African samurais* who wielded influence during the tumultuous era of the Tokugawa shogunate. These two remarkable figures, whose origins lay in the lands of Africa, found themselves in Japan's feudal landscape, their destinies intertwined with the fate of the nation.
      One of these Africans was akin to Yasuke, the famed African retainer of Oda Nobunaga. Known for his towering stature and exceptional combat prowess, he rose through the ranks of the samurai caste, earning the respect of his peers and the trust of the powerful daimyo Toranaga/Tokugawa. With his keen strategic mind and unwavering loyalty, he established his own fiefdom, a bastion of strength in the heart of Japan.
      His companion, mirroring William Adams, was a man of unyielding determination and indomitable spirit. Embodying the spirit of endurance and resilience, he navigated the intricate web of Japanese politics with finesse, earning accolades as a master diplomat and tactician. Like Adams, he too carved out his own domain, a beacon of hope for those who sought refuge in the tumultuous times of war. *When all the Native Japanese were bloodthirsty and plotting how to burn down their opponents crops - it was these two African Samurai that were planting trees!!*
      Together, these two African samurais stood as pillars of strength, their fiefdoms serving as bastions of stability amidst the chaos of civil strife. Their allegiance to Tokugowa/Toranaga was unwavering, their skills in warfare and governance invaluable assets in the struggle for power. Through their courage and ingenuity, *they helped shape the course of Japanese history, leaving an indelible mark on the annals of time."*
      Powerful stuff, huh??
      ---------------------------------
      *APRIL FOOLS, BABY!!!!* 😂🤣😂🤡🤡

  • @grandmufftwerkin9037
    @grandmufftwerkin9037 Před měsícem +126

    Blackthorne spent more time at the mercy of events outside of his control in every iteration of Shogun, from the novel to both TV series.

    • @richardhockey8442
      @richardhockey8442 Před měsícem +5

      the ending of the 80's Tv series make it clear the Blackthorn has very little control of his destiny outside of the structure of japanese society, and is probably only alive because he managed to prove useful to Toranaga.

    • @Kainis80
      @Kainis80 Před měsícem

      @@richardhockey8442 as was the case for anyone outside of the daimyo. If you survived, it was because you were somehow deemed useful to someone with more authority.

    • @alexyoon-sungcucina7895
      @alexyoon-sungcucina7895 Před měsícem

      Then why even have him as a character?
      Oh that's right, so fragile white audiences have a character and representation otherwise they wouldn't watch. Same shit as fragile wokesters.

    • @irena4545
      @irena4545 Před měsícem

      @@richardhockey8442 Here it even aired on TV as "Prisoner of Japanese Islands" - it just screams "hero and saviour", doesn't it?

  • @kyonjannis
    @kyonjannis Před měsícem +2

    Now I guess we can finally tackle a problem of very similar nature and urgency nonetheless: where are the Inuit in the film “Totò, Peppino e la Malaffemmina” ?

  • @jeremytalbott8661
    @jeremytalbott8661 Před měsícem +1

    Look up Dana Abbot who studied swordsmanship over in Japan. He may be able to help you on your inquiry on the old samurai adage "If you are to be a samurai, you must have a little black blood."
    Great video!

  • @mintto-108
    @mintto-108 Před měsícem +138

    I have never seen African American people in my city in japan even in 2024. I met some very nice African American people in Tokyo and I truly hope they enjoy living in Japan but I don’t understand this discussion at all….Japan have been described wrongly at Many Hollywood movies, so the cast s and producers from shogun wanted to show authentic Japan with their effort so just because diversity is the trend in recent years, it does not mean they should include all races in one movie. If somebody says it’s racist opinion, I accept the opinion. I’m ok to be a racist based on their definition of racist.

    • @BigUriel
      @BigUriel Před měsícem

      It's not racist and you shouldn't accept the opinion of someone who thinks stating an objective, verifiable historical fact is facist, because they are morons and no one should ever list to what they have to say about anything.

    • @checkmate9111
      @checkmate9111 Před měsícem +5

      African American or Black ?? Elon Musk is African American. You are either American or not….

    • @mintto-108
      @mintto-108 Před měsícem +10

      @@checkmate9111 sorry I meant black people, now I don’t know what words are appropriate to use.

    • @loki007420
      @loki007420 Před měsícem +20

      @@mintto-108 noone knows

    • @IsaacHarvison-mt5xt
      @IsaacHarvison-mt5xt Před měsícem +1

      ​@@checkmate9111Elon musk was born in South Africa he is African but you have racist saying he not he was born there he is African double standards

  • @andersschmich8600
    @andersschmich8600 Před měsícem +128

    Its one of those things where yes, theororetically there could have been a Black person present, but I guarantee your that these same people would not obsess over the lack of the small number of European merchants in a show about 13th century China.

    • @kinghoodofmousekind2906
      @kinghoodofmousekind2906 Před měsícem +22

      Exactly! Like, it's a fact that there were travellers and merchants from Europe in many Countries outside Europe, but the numbers were so low it would be understandable if they are not mentioned in stories or chronicles of the time. A few were recorded, but they were exceptions, not the rule.

    • @acdcljb
      @acdcljb Před měsícem +10

      Even 2 000 in 12 000 000 is extremely low number. And a fraction of 2 000 is even smaller number. And it makes sense they would be primarily at the commercial ports.

    • @nomdeguerre8464
      @nomdeguerre8464 Před měsícem +7

      ​@@acdcljbwell, at least 50% in the commercials!

    • @TomCruz54321
      @TomCruz54321 Před měsícem

      And yet everyone loves Tom Cruise when he plays the White Savior. Insecure White Men are so yucky.

    • @adambielen8996
      @adambielen8996 Před měsícem +2

      Where the Chinese merchants at is the real question.

  • @shinichiiwashita6903
    @shinichiiwashita6903 Před měsícem +3

    we don’t have such proverb ever. Also Sakanoue-no-Tamuramaro was NOT Ainu. Major Ainu people immigrated from Siberia since 13 centuries.

  • @kristinjenkins6136
    @kristinjenkins6136 Před měsícem +1

    and this is the reason why i am learning japanese so i can get the correct history of japan from the japanese people themselves instead of reading western written history on japan. even if it is translated from an original japanese text is will loose context as translations can be incorrect at times as say i might read a line that has kanji in it and read it one way someone else may read the same kanji differently so it depends on the person who is doing the translation and the context of the text that it is being taken from.

  • @taikanyuko5005
    @taikanyuko5005 Před měsícem +129

    In Wakanda. The imaginary black nation that my Nigerian prince keeps sending me emails about.

    • @RCSVirginia
      @RCSVirginia Před měsícem +11

      To @taikanyuko5005
      I do hope that you gave him access to your bank account in order that he could reclaim his throne and make you his prime minister.

    • @shegocrazy
      @shegocrazy Před měsícem +12

      @@RCSVirginia Settle down! He's already promised ME the PM gig. My certificate of authenticity should be arriving any day now.

    • @kellysouter4381
      @kellysouter4381 Před měsícem +5

      Say hello for me😂

    • @morghe321
      @morghe321 Před měsícem +4

      Ok, this made me lol 😆😆

    • @asaris_
      @asaris_ Před měsícem +1

      Ah, he still needs funding for his superhero suit and equipment?

  • @SuperChicken666
    @SuperChicken666 Před měsícem +35

    I lived in Japan for two years myself, and every day I asked, "Where are all the blacks and Porto Ricans?"

    • @vanessashimoni6548
      @vanessashimoni6548 Před měsícem +7

      Answer: ummm… NYC? 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @PR-cj8pd
      @PR-cj8pd Před měsícem +3

      They are around Shinjuku and Ropongi giving out flyers to nightclubs

    • @RisastoleM2314
      @RisastoleM2314 Před měsícem

      @@PR-cj8pdSure and I agree. but those are Nigerians, not African Americans

    • @matthewoppp6881
      @matthewoppp6881 Před měsícem +1

      thats why there is no crime

  • @ReyCimeni
    @ReyCimeni Před měsícem +5

    "My grandma always said, I don't care what they tell you in school, Mona Lisa was black. We wuz painterz n sheiittt!"

  • @DamnPictures
    @DamnPictures Před měsícem +5

    An old legend says that black folks could be seen in the vicinity of Big Bang.

  • @slyninja4444
    @slyninja4444 Před měsícem +19

    Why aren't there any black people in Shogun?
    Same reason why there's no Asian people in Black Panther.

  • @micheledeetlefs6041
    @micheledeetlefs6041 Před měsícem +204

    It's also not a white savior for another reason.
    Spoiler warning.
    John's ship will be burned to the ground before any real conclusive battle takes place. Therefore, neither he nor his cannon make any ultimate difference in the battle. Toronaga wins because he is remarkably adept at being patient and waiting for opportunities. He plays the people around him effectively off one another until he gets an opportunity to make a decisive battle and wins that battle. Blackthorn has virtually nothing to do with it.
    In the end, we discovered Toronaga never intends to have John build a ship to take on the Portuguese. He's keeping Blackthorn around because he believes that he needs one friend to keep himself grounded, and has determined that John would be the best option for that role specifically because he is not Japanese and honestly has no japanese-based ambitions. So John isn't the white savior. He's more like the white kept pet.

    • @OlympianGift
      @OlympianGift Před měsícem +16

      Nailed it

    • @bob7975
      @bob7975 Před měsícem +18

      Also, he would lose so much face if Anjin-san left there would be no words in any language to describe it. Blackthorn is ultimately just a grand distraction for the other warlords, Toranaga's enemies and rivals.

    • @niji8164
      @niji8164 Před měsícem +1

      does anyone have examples of movies and tv shows where the 'white savior' thing is real

    • @user-ps1ft1hy4j
      @user-ps1ft1hy4j Před měsícem +2

      @@niji8164 A Man Called Horse and The Return of the Man Called Horse, starring Richard Harris. It's fairly absurd, though the first one is terrifically entertaining. He teaches the Native Americans to shoot arrows all lined up in rows like the British, though that was not so good for closer-up warfare as compared to, say, the range and effectiveness of British longbows, and played against the strength of many Native American tribes.

    • @aetius7139
      @aetius7139 Před měsícem +6

      In real life, william adams really did play integral part in tokugawa shogunate as he became a liason between the japanese and the dutch traders in dejima. Contrary to popular beliefs, japanese isolation is not complete isolation of japan from the world. Its a strict border policy. No foreigners in, and no japanese out.
      The tokugawa shogunate secretly studies the western tecnology through their exchanges with the dutch. Thats why during bakumatsu period. All Western studies is called "Rangaku" meaning "Dutch learning". And the people who learn western ideas often deregatory called the "dutchies" in contempt by a more traditional samurai class.
      The first time the american delegation to shogunate. Townsend harris, has no problem of language barrier. Due to him bringing dutch-american born interpreter, Henry Heusken.

  • @mimisheean6648
    @mimisheean6648 Před měsícem +4

    I’ve lived in Japan for 7 years, in both Osaka and Kyoto. There are almost no black people here except for the occasional tourist. There aren’t very many white people here either for that matter, even if there are many tourists. So the idea that black people were common here a couple hundred years ago is a bit hard to imagine. As for the Ainu, they were not dark dark-skinned. They became dark from the sun (at least the men who were outside a lot), but actually they are very Caucasian in appearance. Nowadays they look much more Asian due to intermarriage of course.

  • @SkeeterHowitzer
    @SkeeterHowitzer Před měsícem +2

    You are quite the scholar and not boring.

  • @revolutionaryhamburger
    @revolutionaryhamburger Před měsícem +82

    "Many researchers have documented the suggestion of and existence of Africans in Japan, one dating back to 22,000 years, near Osaka, where much of the Shogun series took place." I don't know much about big number dates but my grandmother always told me 22,000 years ago Osaka was an unlikely place to pick up a fresh parcel of Africans.

    • @njalsand133
      @njalsand133 Před měsícem +1

      A booming trade >_>

    • @julietfischer5056
      @julietfischer5056 Před měsícem +3

      @ConontheBinarian- Australian aboriginals share genetic markers with some Asian ethnic groups (I can't recall which ones). The English tended to use 'black' and the n-word to refer to Melanesians, various ethnic groups in India, darker Middle Easterners/North Africans, and sub-Saharan Africans.

    • @kellysouter4381
      @kellysouter4381 Před měsícem +4

      Listen to Granny 😂😂

    • @kellysouter4381
      @kellysouter4381 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@julietfischer5056aborigines came from Java, Indonesia, about 40,000 to 50,000 years ago. Greetings from Adelaide.

    • @julietfischer5056
      @julietfischer5056 Před měsícem

      @ConontheBinarian- Yes. Because their ancestors came from Asia.

  • @rairaiken4007
    @rairaiken4007 Před měsícem +33

    This reminded me of a comment I read in Facebook where commenter wrote that Filipinos are black. They don't want to admit it because of shame and racism. Many agreed with the commenter but I was just floored. Filipinos are Malay! Few of us have Chinese ancestry and even fewer have European ancestry. But I have never read in our history books or studies that say we are predominantly African.

    • @inicolov
      @inicolov Před měsícem +1

      Well now you know, and knowing is half the battle 😂

    • @Samchanne21
      @Samchanne21 Před měsícem +1

      I am also Filipino, but from my understanding and what I was learned, Aeta people were also part of being Filipino, just like Cebuano, Bisayan, Tausug, etc., however, it doesn’t mean that all Filipinos are black; we have diverse colors, ranges from brown, tan, black, fair, and that’s what it matters.

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 Před měsícem +3

      Hello as a filipino i have to correct just a bit of what you said kababayan. Filipinos arent Malay, it has been debunked already. Our ancestors came from taiwan and migrated first to the Philippines, and in our northern area is the most genetically related to the native taiwanese. SO in reality We are the closest people to the austronesians of taiwan and its the other way around. We arent malay, and we didn't come from malays it is the malays and every other austronesian from southeast Asia to the pacific islands came from us. We are their distant ancestors. As for the mixtures of our people yes most are austronesian that is true. Spanish mixture is very limited because we were the farthest colony and we were never a settler colony which judging from ur comment i think you already knew. The most mixture we would ever have would probably come from the Chinese ofc this does not include other southeast asians because that's obvious. The Chinese have been trading with us for longer periods of time and constant migration was indeed happening especially from the Spanish era and post American era. Not to mention there are still Chinese influx here and i doubt that will stop soon. And ofc here and there there were mixtures of south asian and some arabs. As for the original filipinos were "black" African. Yes i have seen those posts mostly in facebook, it is done by Afrocentrists who thought the "negrito" or should i say aeta were black due to their features such as very dark skin, coily hair and nose shape. While genetic studies shows that they are similar to us austronesians than anyone in Africa. Not to mention they look exactly like us but with darker skin and curlier hair, but that is also due to that our ancestors mixed with them so in such a way there is no longer a pure aeta.

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 Před měsícem

      @@Samchanne21 thats true, thou the aeta were originally different. The reason why we treat them as our ancestors because nowadays they are mixed, no more pure aeta nowadays. As for skin color people act that We filipinos have 1 skin tone which is brown, but even brown has different shades. I have more of an olive complexion but in the summer i get really dark because i don't care if i tan or not. But a lot are even pale, which is due to social status.

    • @VVayVVard
      @VVayVVard Před měsícem +4

      That's completely backwards. The reason Sub-Saharan Africans look so distinct from almost every other population on Earth is because of the Saharan desert acting as a natural barrier to migration. In addition, if you wanted to get to the Philippines from there, you would have to cross/get around other natural barriers like the Arabian desert, the Zagros mountains and (of course) the sea. Due to these restrictions, Filipinos and Sub-Saharan Africans are likely some of the most distantly related populations on the planet.

  • @cooldustin82
    @cooldustin82 Před měsícem +2

    In 1993, I moved from Brooklyn, New York City, to Monroe, Louisiana, a Southern U.S. city that had a population of 55,000 at the time. I attended a small private middle school where my sister and I were the only children of Chinese descent (there was a girl already there of Korean descent). A classmate who would eventually become my good friend told me I was the first Chinese person he ever met. I only had 1 Black classmate at that middle school and he actually switched schools after my first year there none after that year. The lack of ethnic diversity to me was shocking having coming from New York City. My point is that if a movie was made set in 1993 in Monroe, Louisiana, and all the main characters were white, with barely any non-white characters in the background of scenes, it would make sense. A lot of people unfamiliar with the American South would be surprised, but at that time, there was still a "Black" part of town, on the other side of railroad tracks, near the mall. So if a movie was made set in 1993 in Monroe, Louisiana, and all the main characters were Black, with barely any white characters in the background of scenes, it would also make sense.

    • @ophs1980
      @ophs1980 Před měsícem

      I graduated from Ouachita Parish High School in Monroe in 1980. It was a public school that was pretty diverse. Around 60% white and 30% Black with the rest being Asian or Hispanic. The homecoming queen was Jewish. I'm not sure if you went to a Catholic school or a private school like River Oaks academy, but it seems that attending a private school in a small city wouldn't be good gauge of a places diversity.

  • @auntyyoohoo5481
    @auntyyoohoo5481 Před měsícem +3

    But also, the foreigners didn't usually live AMONG the people unless they were guests in rich homes. Mostly they stayed in the ports or port cities.

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin Před 11 dny

      Is the protag isolated from other Europeans?

  • @drlizzardo4373
    @drlizzardo4373 Před měsícem +95

    The original Mini-series was based on a version edited by James Clavell himself by request to tell the story through the eyes of Blackthorn. The new version is based on the original book so it contains events where Blackthorn was not a participant.
    As far as Blackthorn being a White saviour he was a prisoner for the rest of his life and was never released by the Japanese, they used his knowledge of weapons for there own benefit.

    • @Muschelschubs3r
      @Muschelschubs3r Před měsícem +5

      He never returned to Britain, but he untertook several sea voyages to the Philippines, Siam and India (not sure about that last one. Some prisoner 🙄

    • @drlizzardo4373
      @drlizzardo4373 Před měsícem +3

      @@Muschelschubs3r Im not sure about the guy his based on, Blackthorn the character in the book never left Japan its been a good 30 years since I read the book, I may be wrong

    • @joeroganjosh9333
      @joeroganjosh9333 Před měsícem +5

      If I remember rightly the book makes it quite clear Blackthorne never returned to England, the tone of the passage paints him as a rather tragic figure, repeatedly building a ship to take him home only to have it destroyed by the shogun who wanted to keep him as a valuable resource, a kind of free slave.

    • @Njbear7453
      @Njbear7453 Před měsícem +2

      Their * their * own benefit.

    • @drlizzardo4373
      @drlizzardo4373 Před měsícem +3

      @@Njbear7453 Thankyou gramma police I have auto check on and for some reason it screws with Australian English

  • @Lydelith
    @Lydelith Před měsícem +42

    If it weren't so serious, it would just be laughable. In the current context, it's highly dangerous.

  • @barrymayson2492
    @barrymayson2492 Před měsícem +1

    William Adams was from my local town . There are roads named after him as after Japanese places.

  • @newtongames8220
    @newtongames8220 Před 10 dny +1

    In the 1975 novel, Black slaves are in the holds of the Portuguese black ship that Blackthorne is brought to while fleeing Osaka with Toranaga. When Mariko orders a sailor to clean and change the pilot, he mentions that it would be a job for the slave in the hold, but that they were too lazy to do it. If there are slaves in a scene, they are in the background and never shown directly to the reader.

  • @fattiger6957
    @fattiger6957 Před měsícem +169

    Japan, being one of the most ethically homogeneous countries on Earth and a historically isolated nation, is going to reflect that in their pop culture. And western pop culture that wants to faithfully depict Japan should reflect that.
    Yes, I know there are a few exceptions, and I welcome accurate depictions of that. But one notable African man in the entire history of Japan does not and should not give anyone license to portray pre-modern Japan as a utopia of ethnic diversity.
    Just because Europeans have allowed the revisionists (aka the cultural imperialists) to destroy their history, doesn't mean those people are allowed to do that to other cultures. It didn't work out well when they tried to steal Egyptian history and it won't end well if they try to steal East Asian history. I eagerly wait for the day when Hollywood tries to "adapt" Journey to the West for "modern audiences". The abject rage that will stir in the Chinese population will be a thing to behold.

    • @dragonace119
      @dragonace119 Před měsícem +32

      The Chinese were beyond enraged at that live action remake of Mulan so I can only imagine.

    • @nodiggity9472
      @nodiggity9472 Před měsícem

      Do yuo liek Mudkips?

    • @masktuxedo77
      @masktuxedo77 Před měsícem +3

      They already adapted it multiple time with white characters, aka white washed - thank you very much. Could you please be outrageous about it?

    • @acdcljb
      @acdcljb Před měsícem +10

      "Europeans" is way too broad. Not every country had ports with ships sailing to different continents. Hence homogeneous European countries deep into 20th century.

    • @dragonsman4733
      @dragonsman4733 Před měsícem

      Mate... I'm afraid they already did adapt jttw. Okay so there's a series set after which is fairly faithful to the original book, but they now release each season in June and their officials now shoehorn in any lgtb into it to market it. They already erased a demons gender making him non-binary even though he was stuck in a memory of ancient china for years where the concept hadn't been invented.

  • @alphariusomegon4819
    @alphariusomegon4819 Před měsícem +99

    This is the type of misrepresentation that does more harm than good when trying to uncover historical truth of African peoples, thanks for the honest review, Metatron.

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  Před měsícem +28

      My pleasure

    • @weskerwillie9044
      @weskerwillie9044 Před měsícem

      18:26 it only does more harm than good because it triggers a racist response from your people. If we argued right now that ancient Greeks and romans looked nothing like modern Europeans (despite modern Europeans pretending they looked like them) it would be a normal argument (hopefully) and wouldn't automatically paint Europeans in a bad light. Another example is modern Europeans arguing that they were in north Africa thousands of years ago. Now as ridiculous as that is, Africans aren't eager to paint all Europeans in a bad light. Piont being made here is that your people's eagerness to view black people in a racist way shouldn't be why black people don't make mistakes or tell you truths about themselves you never knew because your educational system was too racist to let you know and would rather lie to you that most of an entire continent was full of jungle people until they were colonized. Let's be real here. Black people are not the problem. We have been destroyed physically, psychologically and historically through racism at the hands of white people. Repairing that damage is not going to be a straight road. You are in no position to determine how we heal. You are in no position to determine which black population we get to identify with as blacks and which we do not. Educate your people to let go of that racist behavior

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 Před měsícem

      ​@@metatronyt unfortunately there's many racist trolls coming in here who just want to use racist agendas to prove "inferior" black people
      I agree that black people shouldn't just claim every nation was them
      And I'm glad you referred to Europeans in terms of weaponry were superior not that they were
      Keep up the good work sir

    • @MagcargoMan
      @MagcargoMan Před měsícem +2

      Making constant videos about niche woke complaints and revisionism very few people actually believe on a channel with a large right-wing following while simultaneously refusing to make a single video dispelling lies conservatives spread about Sub-Saharan Africa is also doing more harm than good.

    • @cahallo5964
      @cahallo5964 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@MagcargoMan What lies need disproving? name 1 example

  • @jlacko
    @jlacko Před měsícem +1

    I would say that the problem of our modern mindset is not that there is a risk of underrepresentation in our artistic works, but instead that we go to these lengths to make it an issue.