This NYC Professor is a COMPLETE JOKE!
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Without dismissing the issues inherent to Spartan culture that have been listed, such a statement clashes with everything we know: in 404 BC, Sparta emerged victorious from the Peloponnesian War that had pitted it against Athens, inaugurating what historians define as the Spartan hegemony in Greece, which lasted throughout the first quarter of the 4th century BC and beyond, only shattering in 371 BC with the defeat at Leuctra against the Thebans.
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Defining the Spartan army as "the greatest gay army that's ever been on the planet" is a provocation to the alt-right, amusing if we want, but essentially nonsense (we have already talked hundreds of times about how the sexuality of the ancients is not superimposable on modern sexuality. The most correct definition (if one really wanted to give one) would be "pansexual army", given that at the time everyone could have been defined more or less in a certain way as "pansexual", but also remembering that sexuality followed specific norms and rules (e.g. after puberty, passive homosexuality tended to be stigmatized). Subsequently, however, he recovers and presents a more or less FAIRLY correct picture. The point is that the masculinity expressed by Spartan culture, a mixture of frankness, roughness, simplicity, frugality, remains evident (just read the various Apophthegmata Laconica by Plutarch), and this is because in antiquity someone could quietly be perceived as virile and at the same time have (active) homosexual relationships, e.g. Philip II of Macedonia said "If I enter Laconia I will raze it to the ground!" The Spartans replied: "If" (hence the adjective "laconic") [A Spartan responds, during an initiation rite, to a priest who asks him the most nefarious action he had ever committed]. (Spartan): To whom should I confess it: to you or to God? (Priest): To God. (Spartan): Then you go away. A Spartan is asked if the roads leading to Sparta are safe, the answer given by the Spartan is the following: "It depends on what you are; while the lions with us roam wherever they want, the hares end up in the pot. An orator makes a speech with very long sentences and a Spartan comments: "Wow, what courage this man possesses! How skilled he is in wrapping his tongue around emptiness!"
“The Spartans were strange catalysts of democracy: They were utter fascists. They had the best land in Greece, and it was tilled by slaves and the citizens were all soldiers to defend the territory.
The Athenians were the ones who gave birth to democracy, but the Spartans made it all possible.”
Relativamente alla rappresentazione della mollezza persiana in contrapposizione con la virilità dei guerrieri greci, invece, sono le stesse fonti classiche a parlarcene:
“Since the sight of the Persians inspired terror in Agesilaus' troops, he ordered his Persian prisoners to be stripped and their white soft bodies, contemptuous to Greeks, to be displayed to his men”
- Frontino, Stratagemata, 1.11.17
Certainly, 300 represents the Persians in a caricatured way, emphasizing the "oriental softness" (I wouldn't say "racism"). The film is based on the Graphic Novel by Frank Miller, who, as in his other works (e.g., "The Dark Knight Returns"), employs a very particular form of social satire, and if read in-depth, he is an author who loves to put forth great contradictions. In fact, Miller does not describe the Spartans in a positive way, but plays with the narrative according to which, at a given moment, their contribution was incisive in defending Greece, and therefore also Athenian democracy, from the aims of an autocratic state such as the Persian empire. "The Spartans were strange catalysts of democracy: They were utter fascists. They had the best land in Greece, and it was tilled by slaves and the citizens were all soldiers to defend the territory. The Athenians were the ones who gave birth to democracy, but the Spartans made it all possible."
Regarding the representation of Persian softness in contrast to the virility of the Greek warriors, however, the classical sources themselves tell us about it:
"Since the sight of the Persians inspired terror in Agesilaus' troops, he ordered his Persian prisoners to be stripped and their white soft bodies, contemptuous to Greeks, to be displayed to his men" - Frontinus, Stratagemata, 1.11.17
#ancientgreece #ancientrome #propaganda
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metatron, I have a question, have you seen the wikipedia article titled "Homosexuality in the militaries of ancient Greece" or "Homosexuality in ancient Greece"?
Truth? Lies? I'm afraid youtube won't let me post the link.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece
the fact that he doesn't seem to understand that 'wakanda' is not a culture but a fictional backstory from a comic book makes him ridiculous
When a professor ignores facts, he/she is willfully misinforming students, there's an agenda against the truth.
any professor who compares Greek mythology to a comic book should be fired. Wakanda isnt African mythology, it was created by two jewish guys in 1966 ffs
There's always some jungian every generation who wants to draw it all into the great universal myth.
Every single time
No way really? All the roads lead back to the Jews it seems if you catch my drift
@@PackHunter117 It was Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. One is the father of the classic Marvel comics the other was the co-creator of Captain America. Two men that made stories about hope, heroic ideals, and striving to help others.
If you want to apply your conspiracy theories you might want to pick INDIVIDUALS who actually embody something negative.
@@katnerd6712 Alright you’re right and that would be a different argument and subject than what’s discussed in the video. Didn’t know they were Jews but I guess that shouldn’t surprise me
So he's supposed to be talking about history and proceeds to fawn over Black Panther? Yup, he's one of *those* professors.
He's a huge fan of the BBC.
Plenty professors like that unfortunately. I had to write detailed essays on Wakanda for two different classes during my undergraduate degree. Ridiculous.
@@thatlittlevoice6354 😂😂😂
@@thatlittlevoice6354 ah, yes, the British broadcasting corporation. I've heard of them.
@@thatlittlevoice6354 The veiny kind!
This "professor" does know that Black Panther and 300 were comic books right...??? People like this that don't under stand storytelling always disappoint me.
And supposedly it the entire point of his doctorate. It's really unsettling how political these people are. Complete lack of academic integrity
I like how he forgets how the Persian empire became so multiethnic. It wasn't because they were so awesome all the neighboring states asked to join them.
The Persians were awesome
@tom_demarco They were also a culture and empire built on the colonization and enslavement of others around them. Most, if not all members of the Persian empire, were brought to heel by the sword.
@@tom_demarcono they weren’t, they were pathetic
And of course he wouldn't dare to mention that Persians themselves weren't black at all, and probably would not have non-persian commanders in their ranks. They looked similar to modern Iranians.
@@rannenw6207 cyrus abolished slavery. You are just making shit up
Sparta being exclusionary and isolationist = bad.
Wakanda being exclusionary and isolationist = YAAASSSS
I'm always astonished with how stupid that sort of thing is.
So there's this hyper-advanced African society that just chose not to do anything about slavery, both within and outside of Africa?
It reminds me of how the wizards in Harry Potter just ignored WWII, and we're not supposed to think they're horrible people.
@@thebreadbringer9522 yes, also not sharing their welth and medics
The worst part is, that isolation view is literally condemned in the movie.
Because of race.
Who knows they might have been selling them too. wakanda does seem to be ritch with being hidden and no outside trade just saying...
That's not a professor, that's an activist.
He identifies as a professor
Anyone, involved in academia today, is a political activist. They wouldn't have the job otherwise. Anyone, involved in politics today, is a lobbyist for a corporation (or religious minority). They wouldn't have the job otherwise. Any non African origin working in the westhas their job through affirmative action. They wouldn't have their job otherwise. Meritocracy is now dead, which was one of the major foundations of the western civilization.
In and of itself there's nothing wrong with being an academic and an activist. If you're doing biomedical research you might also be an activist in raising awareness on issues of public health. If you're an environmental biologist investigating endangered ecosystems, you might simultanously be an activist fighting to protect them. If you're a climate scientist... you're probably fed up with debunking the same old climate denialist BS over, and over again etc. One basic condition though -- don't bend or misrepresent the state of knowledge in any given academic field when doing the activist stuff.
Most academics in the humanities think exactly like this.
@@Qba86 If youre a climate scientist you know youre pushing bs propaganda just to make us pay higher taxes.. because aparently theres no other solution to climate change other than extreme taxation.
As soon as someone uses the word "problematic", you know exactly what kind of agenda they're about to push.
Anything that opposes the gay, racially preferential, socialist revolution
The truth is problematic
He doesn’t even say the right word. He says “problematical”
Can we also acknowledge that in the movie 300, Leonidas, THE MAIN Spartan, was fairly kind towards Ephialtes and the man betrayed them because he wasn't allowed to fight alongside the Spartans, which Leonidas prefaced by showcasing how Ephialtes wasn't *physically fit* for their shield-strategy the "professor" described. It wasn't even ableism or "beauty standards", it was not endangering the other soldiers.
What i always wondered. Why didn't they put Ephialtes on the far left of the formation?
@@MWK19790 because he would die instantly. His deformed back is not covered from the shield.
It is ableism and ableism is good.
Ableism is discrimination in spite of practicality. A lame hunchback being physically unable to serve in a phalanx isn't ableism. If Leonidas had denied Ephialtes a role that Ephialtes was entirely capable of performing, solely on the basis of "cripple bad", then it would be ableism, and it would be bad.
@@Vo_Siri pretty sure he would have been exposed at birth and thus dead had he been born in Sparta.
“There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.”
― George Orwell
They are Useful Fools. Term coined in Russia and got miss translated to Useful Idiot in English. Fool and idiot is different.
Like those Marxist college professors. More concerned with theoreticals and hypotheses than actual practical application and objective truth
Does that mean intellectuals have low IQ? I am unsure what intellectual means at this point. I know there are low IQ educated people but I hesitate to call them intellectuals. What is a higher IQ and educated person then? What do we call that person? I call this professor an impostor or a charlatan.
This guy seems extremely Machiavellian so I'm not sure if he even believes half of what he's saying, he just recognizes that saying the "right" things will gain him status and power.
Misquote.
"I have heard it confidently stated, for instance, that the American troops had been brought to Europe not to fight the Germans but to crush an English revolution. **One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no ordinary man could be such a fool…**
"Half of the Mediterranean is Africa and we forget that." No, just people like this professor who forget that N. Africa, the Mediterranean portion, is not black.
It's Africa, but it's not THAT Africa. The Sahara was quite an obstacle for trade and culture for most of history.
Berbers!
@@ududy22 I legit can't imagine how humans made it across. It amazes me.
@@Vicus_of_Utrecht well, they followed water. Namely The Nile. It provided sort of a "bridge" with liveable conditions.
Liberal white people believe all of Africa is black.
As a Black person myself...it is tiring to inject African continent into EVERYother cultures history.
… and then cry about cultural appropriation.
Black history IS world history! ALL life began In African! Black Africans PRE DATE RACE! go read a book! Pythagoras studies in Africa for TEN YEARS! they told him it should've been TWENTY!! It's a reason Black people dominate in art, music, athletics, math, and more! LEARN YOUR HISTORY!
And it is absolutely racist and patronising to do so. As if Africans or African Americans had no noteworthy stories, characters or history.
@@Holtijaar This is my point every time the topic comes up. I want to learn about great people from African nations not see a historically non-black figure made black for political reasons. It's lazy, it's bad storytelling, and it craps all over the legitimately interesting histories from Africa that haven't gotten as much attention as they deserve.
I'm a classical archaeologist and to me this "professor" is an absolute joke. The stuff he's coming out with was ridiculous. He is definitely pandering to the modern ideals of gender and race. Thank you for taking the time to call him out!
He doesn't like the "Racism" in 300, but loves it in Black Panther.
Would like but the like number is on point.
@@Maybeabandaid9 - What was the number
@@MrMetonicus probably 69
@@MrMetonicus 69
Lol that funny. Dunno why a real Historian would start talking about comic books. Kida pointless.
The greatest gay army in the planet?? That would be the Navy.
Good one 😂
Except they're actual manly, strong and brave gay dudes. So I respect them
@@noxplay4906The Spartans had 10 times the testosterone the Navy has
IN THE NAVY!!!!!! IN THE NAVY!!!!!
You mean the Marines.@@RyanG0899
I'm an educator in NYC.. this is what education seems to be all over the city...it's a lot of nonsense in place of the academic content.
The de facto mantra of modern education administrators - "Don't teach how to think, teach what to think."
Someone check this professors hard drive. Man hides secrets
I'm tired of our history and mythology getting pillaged by some politically motivated bozos. Thank you metatron for exposing them.
The world post 2016 has been an utter disaster.
The cultural revolution has begun
@@mekingtiger9095 Thanks to the Republicans.
@@jstevinik3261 Yes, definitely only because of them and nobody else as well lol
@@jstevinik3261They Them
I genuinely wonder how African people feel that he would rather use Wakanda, a fictional culture and country from western comic books, to discuss African history rather then actually discuss real African Cultures.
Any content they do is not meant to be consumed outside their western, liberal, urbanized bubbles.
Its disgusting in my opinion especially when IT comes from african American for crying Out loud despite making man ape Not wear His Gorilla costume they Made His entire Clan make monkey noices during a discussion Not even the man ape in the Comics make monkey noices all the time. Also its very americanized Sure they butchered some thousands different cultural window Dressing into IT but IT IS very clearly african American Not real african
@@DonVigaDeFierro what?
@@kobiee2x137
He’s saying professor doesn’t actually give a damn what Africans think.
@kobiee2x137
🤣 tttkktt
"The greeks separated the world into the masculine sky and feminine earth."
Hades: "Am I a joke to you?"
People of European stock really need to stand up for themselves. The fact that this is allowed to continue is appalling.
@metatron I hope you see that this is the kind of fanbase you are cultivating when you aren't clear.
He's an activist revisionist.
@@JHimminy No, "revisionist" just means that you reinterpret history for your own purposes, with or without any evidence.
One's relation relative to "authority" is a nonsense metric.
This is to say that it is not wrong to push against the accepted orthodox position but that facts make one correct, not bias or position relative to others.
Nah, he's just a coward afraid of loosing his job.
@@tomekkruk6147bingo
The Medusa bit wasn’t revisionism tho. That’s actually close to what the myth reflects.
@@yoeyyoey8937 Ah, so nothing he said was revisionist then.
Professor condemns European whitewashing of African history, then complains about Europeans teaching African history...
to him it right or wrong doesnt matter, as long as it serves his most holy of politics
@scrattthesquirrel5242 You’ve just perfectly described the vocal left in the USA. Bravo.
@@scratthesquirrel5242 teaches in NY. all you need to know for an accurate picture
@@eastcoastsailingcenter7768 Who all made points, except you. So you're definitely the triggered one.
Man, there is being an ally, and then there's taking up all the oxygen in the room pretending to be one.
The movie 300 was entertaining as a fantasy movie based on a real event.
If you take it as a historical record, it is problematic because the movie portrayed both sides as fantasy archetypes. The Persians are literally monsters, and the Spartans are freedom fighting superheroes.
He can't see that. The wokes are out to get him, apparently. Clown
It's also a story being told by a Spartan trying to describe things they've never seen before to rally the people of Sparta.
@@MrDj232 Spartan propaganda, sure.
How does 300 disparage against the deformed?
First, Leonidas showed ephialtes respect and even complimented his training. However, he had him do a small test and explained how his deformity is a detriment to the phalanx. Even then, Leonidas told him that he can still help in a supporting role in a respectful manner.
Even today disabled people are barred from military service due to the strain it puts on the body. Leonidas did everything right.
When Black Panther, _a fictional isolationist society created by two white Jewish men_ , is used as a factual reference for a historical discussion he already lost all credibility.
*EDIT:* For the rage-queens insistent on misrepresenting the usage if the term 'white' in my post: ethnic White and skin hue 'white' are entirely separate categories of description. If you cannot tell the difference betwixt the two perhaps it would be better to not create an opinion of attack. Rather familiarize yourself with the difference. I stand on my OP and how I phrased it. Pantone hue not ethnicity was referenced. Language matters.
To be honest, the original video is not a historical discussion, it's a propaganda show. He worked in a very professional way and did the job he was supposed to do: propagandist.
Sure but he is using his so called academic credentials to back up said propaganda the thing at issue is not just the existence of propaganda but the loss of credibility on academics in general when this behavior is allowed.
@@klausroxin4437 effectiveness and credibility are not to be conflated.
@@macattack5863Which is how we got to the state of indoctrination and ideologically motivated historical revisionism, in the first place.
The capturing of academia by subversive political/ideological elements, not in the pursuit of knowledge, but in the pursuit of activism and destruction of said academia as it existed in its original form.
I disagree, I think using modern media is quite a good pathway to teach people about history .
Everyone does it .
Jordan Peterson using fairy tales and cartoons , metatron does it too .
Allegory, metaphor and synonym helps people understand .
This guy is a great example for why many Americans no longer respect a college education.
The same applies on this side of the Atlantic.
By his speech, the guy is English. So I am slightly embarrassed 🤨☹️
while metatron agitated with every pro black sentiments he finds in internet, im agitated with every sentiments that refers U.S citizens as "americans". because they are NOT. you want to see "americans"? look at the south americas. bolivia, venezuela, chile etc. where you can easily find REDSKINS people dominated the populations. thats AMERICANS. the U.S full of europeans and anything else that is NOT "redskins". there is barely any americans in the U.S and canada because they genocided them in the past.
you only meet him in college if you do theatre as a mayor, he's not in the history/archeology field but in the threatre/literature field.
American professors are often not as qualified as European ones. I think its something like all college lecturers are classed as professors in the US whereas, certainly in the UK advanced research and additional qualifications need to be gained to be titled professor. Other college lecturers are just lecturers.
@@brammeijboom-mj9ld That tracks.
As an interesting note, the origin of the figure of heracles on mythology seems to hark all the way back to the proto-indo-european cultures of the central asian steppe, where we see warriors buried with cudgels. They seemed to have had a god of war (often refered to as striker-thunderer) wielding a cudgel and related to thunder who slays beasts; and it's thought it's this early god who later evolved into figures such as Heracles, Thor or Indra.
23:29 Oedipus wasn't the hero of his story either. The story was meant to teach a moral lesson, and Oedipus was not shown favorably.
But, was his mother good looking? Jk jk
Nothing worse than someone made STUPID by their own education.
The problem is he is educating others.
Over education is known to make mind very ridged.
@@Dracones101 I think the correct word is "indoctrinating others"
@@Dracones101 the word you want is indoctrination.
@@Dracones101 The correct word is stupefying if I got it right
Why.... did he bring up Jan 6 and gay army in the same sentence? These channels are such a joke.
Because left winger does left wing things they can’t talk about anything without bringing up their moronic and racist ideology.
The Enlightenment was a mistake folks.
Because they have a specified Derangement Syndrome
Because it's propaganda
My best guess is the professor somehow made a connection between the Q-anon shamon and spartans. So he was saying how its strange that conservatives dressed up as a gay army. That's my hypothesis but your guess is as good as mine lol. Maybe some people at the capital on january 6th dressed as spartans or something, but i dont recall anything like that
I was in Vienna last year and saw a keyboard that was once used by Joseph Haydn. I never thought that it would be wrong to show it but that it still had to be used in a concert.
“Did you just say male and female? Be careful, you might lose your job as a professor.” 🤣🤣🤣 I love you, Raf. ❤️
This "professor" is utterly disgusting.
The "professor" saw some SHELL'S....
@@user-ec3rm9wr1n What?
I'm pretty sure he know that half of what he says is utter nonsense, but he says that anyway, because if he said the truth, he would most likely be targeted by some leftie looney gender pseudo science students and could loose his, probably well paid job.
I wish there were more videos like that, with modern day "professors" showing their true colors. Now, if you are still going to send your kid to this university, it's on you.
Why do you think he's employed at NYU?
It's hillarious that this guy was constantly talking about African culture, African mythology and African influence on the Greek mythology and then decided to talk about a marvel movie instead of actual African mythologies lol.
Yeah that makes me mad because I want to learn more about African culture and its getting hijacked. Look at the Woman King. That movie had 0 relevancy in to what actually happened. They were the actual oppressors against other tribes, not their saviors.
Mythology and fiction are the same thing. Don't know why that upset you.
That statement is disrespectful to literally every culture that has ever existed. While it's quite possible some stuff that was known to be fiction at the time has gotten accidentally mixed in most "Mythologies" use to be religions practiced by people who believed they were true.
@@kaimagnus5760 My point was, Black Panther is fake, and so is Zeus and Hercules. So if he was just using wakanda as an example people are familiar with what's the big deal? Even metatrons gripe about him calling a shield a hoplite is easily proven to be true with a Google search.
@@ChadOfAllChads Black Panther is modern and American not ancient and African, so it doesn't fit the context of what he was talking about at all. And even if it did fit a context of, I don't even know what, maybe showing the audience what is our modern version of mythology? Then the Professor would still have mentioned the African (or specifically Ethiopian and Kushite because Egypt is so obvious it doesn't really require much elaboration in a short video) influcences on Greek mythology and then didn't even bother to mention ONE story or character even remotely related to them, while simultaneously complaining about general population's lack of knowledge about them.
When you exposed that man for being a hypocrite and a racist I screamed in my head "YES"
Oh man I am from a Native American reservation, natives have an entertaining way of telling stories.
So the Spartans, samurai, viking, pirates, crusaders and cowboys were all gay, but the zulu were super straight and so hyper masculine that they never bothered to invent the wheel?
Innovation and civilization and industry and music and table manners and gunpowder and quality textiles and masonry and carpentry and marine navigation and cartography and theology and philosophy and the written word and the legal system and the rights of man and germ theory and public charity and rules of war and the printing press and property rights were too gay for them to even think about. They were too busy being hyper-chads, bench pressing 400 and 360° no-scope chucking spears.
🤔 why? would we not want to call African people gay for some reason? If they were gay we should be praising them, no? Oh right because many African cultures are deeply homophobic but we still need to appease them for some reason.
Don't forget they were also black or included black people
Wheel is gae it resembles the femminists form.
Wheels are overrated. What are you going to use them for without any animals around to draw carts?
13:38 Because as a white man I can just walk into any museum, take any european artifact off the wall and play with it because it's from "my culture", and as a white man I just inherently know everything about "my culture" and history so there is no purpose for historians, teachers and the like.
I do love the idea that ANYTHING “from your culture” automatically belongs to you. Next time I’m in a military museum overseas and see anything British made, I’ll let them know that I’ll “take it off their hands” 😂
@@him050*Goes to US Civil War museum, gets shot*
@@him050Yeah, I guess the same way Jews can take anything from Auschwitz-Birkenau musem, because why care about the history behind things/artifacts secured in museums. Ugh, I hate 'anty-museum' talk.
I just like how there was an attempt to send a bunch of artifacts native to Africa back a few years ago....and the guy who they were sent to just sold them off.
@@cp1cupcake *laughs* ya. Imagine, someone without collective guilt(white guilt) or history not caring about an artifact outside of how much it's worth. Crazy.🤣🤣
"Sometimes people forget half of the mediteranean is africa" he said and then proceeds to forget that at least half of the people living there are still lighter toned than Barrack Obama. If you look at the tuareg (who do live more south close to niger), even though theyre quite dark, their appearance and outfits resemble more arabic people. If we are talking about how greek mythology was influenced by africa you would talk about egypt or the beliefs of amazigh prior to arab conquests
Never mind berbers and non arab middle eastern who can have light skin and blue eyes
The snake on a stick is the symbol of death..... Someone clearly missed the part of Exodus where they lifted up the snake on a stick and anyone who looked at it was healed..... (Might have been in a book later than Exodus, but point stands, that symbol has a direct tie to healing.)
That upset me so much (like the rest of the video haha) somehow connecting the HEALING snake to "catonic symbols being lifted from the earth". I guess it's true healing was being derived from a deadly beast, but the symbol used on hospitals is an obvious homage to Moses' burning serpent
@@drawingdragon I'd need to look it up, but there's a Greek symbol of a snake that also meant the same thing, it was the icon of one of the gods, so Hebrew or Greek, snakes have non-death meanings. lol
Yeah theres that medical symbol thats got the snakes in it. Called the caduceus
300 should never be used to make a statement about Ancient Greece. It's a Zack Snyder movie based on a comic book written by Frank Miller during the most troubled years of his life.
Treating it like a historical movie is like watching Bridgerton to study the Victorian Era.
Still infinitely more historical than Wanakananda; no idea why this 'professor' even talks about Marvel cr4p.
And, in-universe, is a propaganda speech being said before a big battle.
And didn't Miller base it on Herodotus' account instead of the real history?
Yes. But Herodotus's accounts, as erroneous as they are, are still historical.
It embellishes a few things like the numbers of the Greeks but for the most part it's actually pretty accurate. Leonidas and Xerxes both existed, the Greeks were heavily outnumbered and led by Leonidas I of Sparta, and they did use the terrain to their advantage to mitigate the numbers advantage Xerxes had. Even the part where Xerxes sends a messenger to Leonidas to tell him to surrender happened, but Leonidas didn't kick him down a well.
Instead when the messenger told him that Xerxes demanded the Greeks surrender their weapons, he replied "Come and take them". Wish that had been in the movie instead its way cooler. The biggest inaccuracies were the number of Greek troops and the fact that it wasn't just Spartans which I think can be forgiven under artistic license. Clearly not done for any weird political reasons.
He went full-“They Wuz Kangs”. Never go full-“They Wuz Kangs”.
Lol I love that meme so much. It pisses off the really politically biased people who love wokeism
@@noxplay4906 you missed a meme: “Never go full-retard” is a quote from Tropic Thunder.
I genuinely cherish the "egyptians v israelites" diss/rap battle. Thank you for showing me that, Metokur.
That’s literally what all the white peoples saying this are doing. “We wuz filosofers”
@@yoeyyoey8937 Why?
Because of innate traits.
They must embrace the Blank Slate lie.
They cannot even think that groups are better than others. That's Heresy.
And they do see it as Heresy.
From his bio : ''He is Professor of Classics in the Modern World at New York University, Honorary Professor in Humanities at the University of Nottingham and an affiliated faculty member in Drama at NYU's Tisch School of the Arts. He specializes in Greek drama, performance and literature, cognitive theory applied to antiquity and the performance of trauma in antiquity''
He's not a scholar, he's a glorified art critic. That's why academic titles should be exclusive to actual academic disciplines, to avoid the confusion with actual scholars and scientists.
also it proves that art criticism is just fancy words pulled out of their @sses. They see a picture of a fly on a fruit bowl and start babbling about existential crysis in artist's life, about the corrupt society, other bs. Artist just wanted something funny on a boring still life. The end.
This guy is a prime example of what is wrong with our universities these days.
A professor like that is so fucking dangerous, and him teaching to students to learn his beliefs and to put modern politics into ancient history is beyond crazy
Well who became all these professors? The word is hippies and not just any hippies but the ideological marxist hippies.
exactly what is so scary is he is so full of shit to those who have even a basic understanding of history yet to tons of idiot undergrade teenagers they will lap up his bullshit simply due to him having a PHD. Biggest problem in modern society is trusting "authority" particularly when there are plenty of PHDs that are not worth the paper they are written on.
Academia is a joke.
People like him aren't the bufoons, they are the punchline.
@@DonVigaDeFierroagreed, the “professor” is merely a consequence of the degeneracy of the American education system for years now. If any of his students believe his pseudo-historical theories involving comic books and gay Spartans, they are fools themselves.
Fortunately, not all of the modern academic panorama is like this: at least, I don't know that there are similar cases in Europe, for the moment (and I hope never!).
that "professor" just misidentified the rod/staff of Aesclepius. that is not a symbol of death, but of healing and medicine.
Imagine being a professor of classics and not recognizing a basic mythological symbol
Tbf, metatron also missed this
@@yoeyyoey8937 I will give Metatron a pass on this one... at that point his brain may had have to rest and recover for a while.
One could interpret that symbol of alchemy conquering death I suppose.
As snakes do represent death as well.
@@robertpatter5509 yeah there’s some other stuff in there as well, there’s the idea of resurrection or being reborn, which I guess is conquering death, but all of this is associated with Asclepius and his Caduceus, so they miss the mark when they talk about this without mentioning that
Definitely interested in a part 2.
Anybody who uses Marvel films as a reference for academic discussion isn't to be taken seriously.
exactly, anyone who treats fiction as facts should be ridiculed... (spiderman, dragons, minotaurs, magic, astrology, ressurections, religions...)
@@milansvancaraso u don’t like metatron either then?
But Mythology as a reference for academic discussion works? They both involve things that either cannot happen, or are so fanciful they most likely didn't happen. You guys are soft.
@@gimligloinson972 I do like many of his videos, even this video of his is factual, and I won't hate someone just for having some ridiculous stances on something (my previous comment was hyperbolic half-sarcasm to demonstrate the point)
I just don't like the hypocrisy many people don't see here, that's all :)
I completely disagree based on the premise of the talk, basically, the portrayal of mythology in modern filmography. Thus, any film that goes into mythology would be on the table. I don’t get why he’d pick Black Panther unless you’re comparing modern concepts of invented ancient mythology to mythologies of the surrounding areas to the setting.keeping Mediterranean, I believe, haven’t seen, that Love & Thunder portrayed the Greek pantheon, even if shortly, but still something. Why didn’t he comment more on the portrayal of Bast & likelihood of her bestowing such favors on a man…there was an opportunity to speak to the topic, but he ignored it for non-topic bs.
Hope his students see this & question why he expects them to stay on topic in their submissions.
The professor forgot, if he ever knew, that the movie 300 was based on a comic book. It was never intended to be an accurate depiction of Spartan/Persian culture or of history, but rather a fantasy for plain fun.
That movie was. But there is another movie of the 300 that wasn't based on a comic I think it was made in the 70s?
I mean the comic is based on real life events, it's not made up.
That being said idk why he's talking about it when it was said he would discuss mythology.
@@simpsondr12 it's lightly based off real life events, the vast majority of it is extremely made up though.
@@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs I'd argue the opposite. It's heavily based on real life events with a healthy dose of overexaggeration.
@@johnv6806Which isn't what he's talking about.
The taking of the museum's mask in Wakanda reminds me of the controversies over the true ownership of the Elgin marbles and the rescuing of the artifacts from Iragi museums while they were being destroyed/looted in the early 2000's. They're always fun rabbit holes to fall head-first into.
If many of the artifacts in museums weren’t there they would have been lost to time. Especially in places that have been ravaged by war and civil wars for millennia. I’d rather something be in a museum than to not exist at all anymore.
By this mans own principles, he should be resigning from a position teaching classics when he is not Italian or Greek.
What a stupid ideology.
He can't because there's a high chance he's from a certain group.
Italian?! Why "Italian" only? The roman empire was enormous and just because for the most part its capital was Rome, not Italy in its entirety but Rome only, the only current nationality accepted as "romans" are Italians? No. You either keep it roman, as in people from the city of Rome, or you respect geography and history and anyone from Portugal to Turkey could be considered "roman" by today's standards.
The fact he is stating is he could be martian for all we care. He will be judged for his knowledge on Roman history if he is preaching this particular subject as a self Proclaiming expert.
And don't forget he's not African either...so he can't say ANYTHING about African culture or history...that'd be racist
@@DimitriMoreira In fact, yes, it is natural to consider the Italians as bearers of the Roman Empire. It's quite simple, you don't consider the Spanish as French because they were part of Napoleon's Empire, or the Chinese as Mongols because they were part of the Mongol Empire, or the Turks as Byzantines because they occupy the territory of Byzantium (Rome). The Roman Empire is a construct on the Italian peninsula that conquered almost all of Europe, North Africa and Asia Minor.
Hercules did not get his power from slaying a lion. He was the son of Zeus. He strangled snakes in his crib.
Facts!!!
Shh
Not a mytho expert. I think he did get some additional powers. I don't even think the lion pelt is the only thing that gave him additional powers.
@@kylemendoza8860 He did gain additional stuff, hydra blood for example.
But to claim that killing the lion was the source of his powers is nonsensical
@@aredjayc2858 Blood of hydra was deadly itself and I do not remember Heracles using it for anything, let me know if Im wrong. Neman lion's golden fur was impervious to attack, it could not be killed with mortals' weapons, but power of Heracles was generaly inherited from his father, who was the mightiest of Gods, in the end Heracles killed the lion without having his pelt, obviously.
We need part 2 meta i already watched this video 3 times! One of your bests.
2:38 thank you.. thank you. THANK YOU! THAAANK YOUUUU ❤
After so many years, finally someone said it. I think I have gone on record saying this on multiple locations including CZcams channels. Hoplon means weapon, hoopla (hopla) plural for weapons, hoplite is pretty much man at arms. Aspis mostly for shield (shield bearers were Ipaspistis, meaning, under a shield). The shield was definitely also referred to as hoplo (hoplon) as in just referring to it as a weapon.
You are the FIRST to acknowledge this.
I already loved your content mate, now I love it and you thrice more.
Killmonger is not Culturally Wakandan. He is American. He speaks like an American, he has an American accent, and he ACTS like an American.
I thought it was really interesting that the American Black Power CRT guy gets shanked in the end by the African. I thought the movie was very thought provoking
Wakanda IS also Just the American Idea of african culture they are also Just Americans with very hammy african accents that Sound forced AS hell
Killmonger would only be half wakandan. He sounds like one of those Black Hebrew Israelites to me.
Killmonger was literally a black Hitler.
And, he is not real. So...it is a moo point.
This “professor” keeps talking about 300 like it’s a historical documentary while completely missing the fact it’s told from the embellished perspective of a commander trying to inspire his troops.
Yeah, it's Spartan propaganda; why wouldn't it be xenophobic?
Exactly.
it's also a comic book adaptation
the movie was based off a comic book by the same name which was INSPIRED by the sparto-persian war. its supposed to be exaggerated and unrealistic
@@sciencecompliance235 and that's why I consider it to be about as historically accurate as a movie could possibly be
Just subbed !!!! How did I not find you sooner!! I am not as educated on this subject as much as you ….but I know enough to question this man….did some due diligence…you NAILED it ….thanks for the content…you have a new follower….all the best to you and yours
"They were quite different from us. You see, they believed that Africans were human beings with art, culture, and literature."
Uhh...ok dude.
Yeah I mean most western countries are still racist trash heaps
"Apart from the Greek Problem"
Sounds like something a Roman would say 😂
Ahh those Romans, always whining and complaining like it’s 500BC worse than the British honestly. Thats coming from a Persian.
@@Azrael1st And eventually forming the worlds most influential empire, kicking your ass and establishing a legacy, that we still larp as them.
As barbarian I can only say romanes eunt domus
@@HappyBeezerStudios People called Romanes they go the house?
Or a sabattean
Notice that he is not a professor of mythology. He is a professor of "classics *in the modern world*". That's probably a literature degree or something akin to that. In other words, he has no idea what he is talking about and is like one of those dumb high school professors that over interpret everything in the way that suits them.
Good point I didn’t notice that
He's not a historian, or an anthropologist, or a sociologist, or an archaeologist or even a linguist...
He's a glorified English teacher.
Ah, the type to search for the meaning behind blue curtains.
I looked him up, he does have a Ph.D. in classics from the University of Nottingham. On his CV and the NYU faculty page: "PhD in Classics, The University of Nottingham (Thesis, Opsis: The Visuality of Greek Drama. Supervisor, Alan Sommerstein)"
Your demonstration is so brilliant and educated ! You get to the point , I love your work and this video is a masterpiece . Thank you for that , keep doing the good job 🙏
Amen. Bring on part 2
On behalf of England, we do not claim this activist.
Unfortunately, a significant percentage of English and UK citizens have embraced this silly cultural "M a r k c y s t" stuff.
@@HighlanderNorth1 I'm a dying breed then
That doesnt mean much unless sadly.
You mean Inglanstan.
@@ShadowEnigmaTV We keep a few of you in safe places around the flat Earth, just in case. ;)
As an Englishman, I'm embarrassed to hear that this man is English, and I'm also dismayed by the state of the American education system where this man has found a home. He makes both of our countries look ridiculous.
He was most likely thrown out of English education.
@@Angus-McFife-2nd I'd like to think so.
@@Angus-McFife-2nd
The way things are at present, I wouldn't bet on it.
@@adventussaxonum448 Good point. We have been infected by Americans "leftism". My son is 9. Last year he brought home a school book on gender. The opening page read "These 2 women were assigned male at birth by a doctor". His mother and I have kept all conversations on that subject away from him because he is a child. We never mention anything around that at all to preserve his innocence as long as possible. We then are called into the school because he told his teacher "they are not women, they are men with broken brains". Qué the next 20 mins of us trying to work out where he has heard it before...
Next, he will say Daffy Duck and Donald Duck were gay ducks oppressed by the patriarchy. And compare it to the history of duck tape.
Your channel is fantastic metatron! Keep going
As an African myself, there is A LOT I could say about this "professor" and debunk him. However, considering the amount of balderdash and lies, I don't think it's worth it. Let's just laugh at this revisionism and ignorance 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
És Angolano ou Moçambicano? (Talvez Cabo verdiano?)
@@felipepicolo angolano
@@camilofonseca2073 Imaginei que fosse, devido ao nome. Um abraço daqui do estado do Rio de Janeiro, Brasil, desde que CZcamsrs como o Baptista Miranda vieram pra cá o interesse que os Brasileiros (ao menos os da internet) têm pelo vosso país aumentou e a Internet diminuiu a distância entre nós e os outros países lusófonos consideravelmente. Muito legal saber que temos muito mais em comum do que o idioma (e a ancestralidade de boa parte dos brasileiros).
@@felipepicolo opa. Abraço irmão.
Edit: com relação ao meu nome já é uma outra e longa história.
Thanks for speaking up about this.
The professor calling the depiction of the literal INVADERS as monsters from the POV OF THE INVADED "racist" really was the last straw for me.
Does he not see that this "rule" fails as soon as it is applied to a culture he "favours"?
That doesn't count. Anything they support is good and anything they don't like is bad. No proof needed because he *feels* it's true. They will literally hold a different stance on the exact same thing based only on who is saying or doing it. He is a dangerous lunatic who teaches his hatred and racism to impressionable young adults every day. If you want to know why things are as bad as they are, it's because of people like him.
The contradiction is not a bug, its a feature. Use any and everything as long as it suits you and then discard when it does not.
Reminds me of that LOTR meme where at the siege of minas tirith gandalf standing with theodan on the walls says looking out at the Park sea says. Well dont be racist, let them in.
@@80krauserYes, 1984 has some things to say about “double think.”
It's almost like people tend to look very unfavorably about people that are trying to kill and enslave them and the ones they love. The Germans in WWII may have been the genocidal bad guys but come on now people, we can do better than calling them Krauts. That's just rude
Not only does the "professor" misinterpret everything through a modernized lens he also fails to realize that a man can be both homosexual AND masculine (even putting aside whether Spartans were or weren't). The terms aren't mutually exclusive. So not only does he fail at his job he also fails at representing the people he tries to pander to.
I refuse to believe he's not an actor pretending to be a University professor and improvising the whole thing
No doubt
That's actually the credentials required to be a professor these days
Sadly he is.
By the end of the video, that was absolutely where my mind was at.
I am a professor and I have lots of colleagues just like him.
Let’s talk about African culture, history and mythology.
Once upon a time, there was a place called Wakanda…
The Wakanda army, one of the gayest armies ever.
@@scorchedearth4248 The Wankharder peoples were onanists who were renowned for their story-telling abilities which were passed down by word-of-mouth.
We wuz Wakananaz and shiet
The joke is expecting a college professor to not be political.
Love your content brother
Edit: part two!!!
Did this professor just imply that being masculine and being gay are mutually exclusive?
From a certain point of view, yes. Though considering his entire lecture comes from a maybe fascist/maybe communist point of view, I'm sure he'd be fine if that was your takeaway. Afterall its 'your truth'.
that is true, gay is not manly and otherwise, a filthy opposite
Well, if you think the guys in the Blue Oyster are masculine... 😆
@@Mailed-Knight awesome. I wonder what the point of going to his lectures would be then.
@@basilmagnanimous7011 Depends on your uh... taste ;)
The comments on that video make me lose faith in humanity. People are eating his bullish up.
That's why we make a stand, no matter the consequences. They can demonetize me 10 times I'll still do it.
@@metatronyt when I watched that video I knew this guy was lying through his teeth
It's not humanity, it's the professor. Those people don't know much about the subject, but they've clicked on the video and are willing to learn. To their mind he's a professor, why shouldn't they trust him? It's not their fault they're being told nonsense.
@@sauron69447scientists shouldnt meddle in politics. This so called professor is a prime example.
@@brick6347
You shouldnt trust someone because "they're a professor", you can give their opinion more weight based on that fact but to outright go "i guess hes right" because hes a professor either means you're a mindless zombie or you're just looking to confirm your biases.
So while i agree that the professor is a problem so are the people who listen to him.
Science is interrogating every idea constantly, the phrase "settled science" should activate every alarm you have.
Likewise for non hard science fields like History, if someone presents something to you as an undeniable fact you should have the same alarm bells ringing.
I love this channel. I subbed and liked. Keep up the good work!
Just love your channel!! Thank you for CORRECTING the lies of people who are supposed to teach history. This guy is a propagandist, not a “professor”!
The hilarity of him continually praising the historicity of Black Panther whilst criticizing 300 😂 so blatantly political
agree, they are both comic books not meant to be taken seriously as historic novels.....even though 300 is actually based on a real event and as a few historically accurate points, a isolated country that somehow is able to be economically/militarily strong despite having backwards traditions of deciding leadership like Wakanda is not even remotely possible.
Worst still that the 300 battle were real and a recorded history while wakanda is not even a thing. 😂😂😂
@@ravezonright? Wakanda is pure comic book fiction. Its like praising the historic accuracy of Gotham City or Bikini Bottom
@@ravezon Best part about the 300 film and I assume the comic is that it's clearly propaganda. But Wakanda forever or whatever.
@@oz_jones it was something along the line about how 300 spartans alone hold the line at the choke hold long enough to unite greece againts persian invasion into greece or something along that line, while the real history was still 300 spartan but plus a few thousands more other state soldiers holding the line. Wakanda is nowhere to be seen. 🤣🤣🤣
The 'prof' ticked all the DIE boxs. Students are paying 60k pa and being taught BS.
I am an East Indian male, living in NYC. The one professor that taught me so much about Indian history was a Jewish woman, in a Jesuit university..... the idea that knowledge belongs to people based on their skin color makes me think humanity has sunk to such a new low. Its almost as bad as ISIS destroying Persian archealogical sites....
You soundly handled this mess. Thank you very much. Yes, I would like to see you debunk part 2.
People like that are neither teachers, nor academics, they are political activists and ideologues.
He just gave it away right from the git-go: “ Professor of Classics in the MODERN WORLD. “ you know right from there is that his studies will be skewed towards a modern agenda.
Exactly my thought, I'm surprised Metatron did not notice that red flag.
Metatron didn't notice because he's not yet met the modern world. As a man who told his parents to go get him a wife, who married me because her father said to, 40 years ago and both very happy...neither has anyone in my family or me. We like the 1600s, minus slavery...well, marriage as slavery is good.
Oh, my oldest daughter also asked me to find her a husband. She married 21 days after being introduced.
Because in the 1600s divorce is rare and the 2 sexes actually LIKED each other.
git? github? do you english?
Yes, please review the second part of the video.
What a great video. Thanks.
Someone please tell the "professor" that Wakanda isn't a real place.
And that it was invented by two white americans.
@@klausroxin4437* two Jews
If I recall, Wakanda is a fictional place made up by Marvel comics. Vibranium is a fictional substance made up by Marvel comics. So this Professor is lecturing me based on fiction, about what he thinks, I think about real Africa.
First time I have watched you. I like how you present and are interesting. I subscribed and look forward to more content.
I am appalled that that "professor" is not fired from his university
I never really understood the Black Panther museum scene.
I have a massive respect for museums, regardless of where they are, since they actively preserve history which is something I wish to do as well. So someone insulting the modern day historians who had nothing to do with the (assumed) theft of artifacts, and are only working to preserve the history and culture that's hundreds, if not thousands of years old just feels... Yikes.
I absolutely agree!
and that whole idea that artificats were "stolen" is bullshitte.
people got permission from local authoriers paying them WHAT THEY ASKED FOR in order to get the rights to dig and keep artifcacts.
ironically the truly stolen artifacts in muesem are from LOCALS who stol there on history for some easy cash during the archealogical boom.
@@housewilma4904 Wow! Have you ever been to the British museum?
That part was a cringefest
I will point out a simple fact. I do not have the money to travel to each and every part of Europe and Africa and Australia and Canada and South America and ...
If there were not any displays of artifacts from other places on Earth, then we would all be prevented from ever being exposed to anything more than pictures and videos.
That would be very ...-ist. I don't know what kind of (insert stem here)ist it is, but an extremely nasty and selfish one. IMHO.
Part of the movie 300 is that it's not only being told from the Spartan perspective, but it's being told by one of the Spartan troops who was sent back to warn Greece about how the Spartans would lose.
Of course the Persians are depicted as inhuman monsters the story is literally a solider trying to convince Greece to prepare for war while making his fallen king and comrades seem like heroes.
This is one thing about 300 that is almost never mentioned thanks for pointing it out.
The entire depiction and plot is a word of mouth from an unreliable narrator, who is propagandising his people/story to motivate.
This is WHY the Persians are depicted as monsters and why the betrayer is disfigured. Not because the director is a “racist” …
Not only that, the Zack Snyder movie 300 is based on the comic 300 by Mark Miller. It was never, at any poijt whatsoever meant to be historical, its an action movie with a very thin historical veneer. Its as historically accurate as Romeo and Juliet.
it was also based on a comic written by a guy known for super stylistic art
I came here to say this. Well put.
People like this are not smart enough to pick up such things
Gaslighting professor out of NYC. Dime a dozen.
This is why I love your channel
"Welcome to this job interview for a professor on mythology, what are your qualifications?"
"Racism, white supremacy, LGBTP, sexism, Africa is the center of all history."
"Congratulations , you're hired!"
*fired!
Nope. That not true. You made that up.
Unfortunately I think this is how these interviews go at most Universities.
So sad that this "Professor " professes only politically motivated disinformation. Maybe he has been given his head because faculty heads thought the students would pay attention because of his accent.
@@jackmcglion8337 Well, at Harvard you can plagiarize the work of others and present papers with no actual data and become the President of the school.
There's something inherently dangerous about a professor that's so willing to misrepresent information to sculp a narrative.
Sculpt
@@bradleythebuilder8743 no worries.
I don't know about sculpting narratives.
I think he was just looking for a payday,
It's Vanity Fair so presumably they paid him well for this cack and probably edited his script.
Yes. Misinformation. His behavior will make anyone who listens to his lies a lot less educated than they were. Fortunately Metatron is fixing the problem.
@@mnomadvfx even worse. sold out to say anything for a price.
Part II, let’s go!
It's as if just because you come from a place, it doesn't mean you know it's history unless you studied it.
I think we can all agree on one historic fact: there is no shortage of revisionists who want to butcher facts in service to their agenda.
Funny thing that the revisionist is a white man revising black culture
Its like "im a black man following the lies of the white man, so im gonna subvert that and follow the "truths" of the white man"
Yeah, like Three Kingdoms. Good job on that baby smashing, Liu Bei.
I guess that I expected academics to be more subtle about it.