How to Connect Underground Natural Gas line for BBQ or Fire Pit to House
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- In this video I get the fun task of connecting a new underground gas line that I installed to our house Natural gas system. I passed inspection on the buried gas line and I'm now ready to connect the riser to the old BBQ valve at the side of the house, using a variety of black Iron pipe fittings.
Here is a link to the video for installing the underground gas line.
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Tools and Items needed: Assortment of Black pipe. Black Iron coupler, Black Iron FPT Union Fitting, Black Iron pipe nipples and fittings, 2 Pipe wrenches, pipe thread sealant, Leak detector and Gas a pressure test gauge.
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Thanks for the video. I'm about to tackle this. Poly gas line and risers are ordered. To make my job a little easier, I think I will connect up the risers to the black pipe before I bury the risers. That way, I can adjust the trench depth at the riser to get things lined up and fitted with minimal fuss. I'm sure I'll be replaying this video at each stage of the process. Thanks again and great video production 👍.
Glad you enjoyed it. Not sure why I didn't connect it when I installed my risers. It was probably to get it done, tested, inspected and buried before it rained. Have fun on your project.
Dude smart idea I mocked up something then came back after concrete and I had to reconfigure 😂 not expensive but time consuming parts trips etc 😮
Not bad, but let’s go over some things that would’ve made the job a little better . #1 an accessible shut off at the outside riser , in the event of emergency, this would make things much easier (Think about it ). #2 a swing join at the outlet wall pipe (this would allow for ground movement and expansion / contraction) required by some municipal codes & Canada (there’s pros and cons to this one). #3 A tee with a plug between the riser and shut off , making for an easy pressure tap, anytime a pressure test is needed. And #4 An insulated Union in place of your ground joint union , to give the riser cathodic protection (obviously the polyethylene pipe does not need cathodic protection, but the powder coated riser does).
All & all you did a very good job (casing, trac wire & a nice /neat installation 👍).
Regards from a gas fitter in STL . Stay safe out there.
Thanks, I appreciate the comment and good advice.
Dunno what a "swing join" is. I gots to know !
@arrowdodgerluvsmarlins1758 a swing joint uses 3 elbows instead 1, to give the ability for the ground to move without breaking the pipes. They are not required in all areas. Basically you use two elbows to do a 180 before tuning 90 degrees down.
I could be mistaken, but I believe that code only allows the use of a union within 6 feet of the appliance. If this does not meet that criteria then a left/right fitting should be used.
My building inspector didn't mention anything about that, but this can vary state to state.
This is what I found concerning the code. I used the ground-joint union.
1211.10
Where unions are necessary, right and left nipples and couplings SHALL be used. Ground-Joint unions may be used at exposed fixture, appliance, or equipment connections and in exposed exterior locations.
Thanks for the comment.
Your hardware store will cut and re-thread your black pipe to size so you don't need all of those sizes.
Thanks for the tip
Shouldn't you have swing joint when going from the house to underground to help eliminate stress if the ground moves the pipe? (A swing joint is basically 3 elbows with short nipples that allow movement if the ground pipe gets pushed up or down with soil stress.)
Good question and yes, I know what you are referring too. Since I passed inspection, I would say that a swing joint was not required for me to have. I don't know if it is because we live in a place that doesn't freeze or because I used the underground yellow Polyethylene Gas Pipe. Maybe since it can flex, the swing joint is not required? I can see using a swing joint with ridged black pipe underground, but why would use black pipe underground anymore. On an interesting note, my local gas company just replaced my main gas line from the street to the house, and it doesn't have a swing joint at the meter either. (I just checked). I would say be safe, check local codes and get any work you do inspected, especially GAS!
Thanks
I just added a gas line to my BBQ. Some video's say that when exiting a house you should have a stress reducing flange mounted on the house rather than just push the pipe through the wall - but I see yours doesn't and yet you passed inspection. I also added a drip leg as the pipe came out of the house prior to the BBQ quick connect. Most installations inside (hot water tanks, overhead heaters, furnaces etc.) have drip legs so I installed one - albeit on the outside of the house. to protect the BBQ from dirt in the line. Interesting that there doesn't seem to be consistency in installations based on code requirements. I have a Weber propane BBQ and it was a real PITA to get natural gas orifices. Weber takes the 5th and doesn't sell them. - I guess they have too many lawyers on staff. I was fortunate to find a used set on E-bay where a guy was going from NG to propane on his Weber (we have identical BBQ's). I was going to just drill out my orifices but thought I'd spend the extra $$ on a set so if needed, I could go back. They seem to make a bid deal on orifice sizing, but when buying a BBQ, you just select NG or propane so the oriifces must be standard because the stores don't have orifices to interchange and just stock either NG or propane BBQ's. I'm sure when I get them it will work just fine.
There is definitely a lot of opinions online of how things need to be done. Which is one of the main reasons I pulled a permit. My gas line was already there for a BBQ in that spot. I just buried it and moved it further into the yard and as part of the backyard makeover I'm working on. I'll need to check on the drip legs to see if those are required when I finally get the BBQ installed. Thanks for the comments.
Good thing we have CZcams how to watch dogs that have enough free time on their hands to scroll through how to videos and pick out things they think are wrong so I don't mess up 👍
Question... bought an older house and had someone making repairs and removing over growth from around around the house. We were told by the realtor that natural gas was now available in the neighborhood but the house hadn't previously been connected. We got a scary surprise about 2 days in when my husband and a couple of guys were removing 1 of 2 large privot hedges in the front yard and pulled a 5/8 orange plastic pipe up with the tree. Not by digging but by using an excavator to pull the tap root from the ground.... called 811 got everything fixed, but were now wondering if we decide to connect our home to gas, should we run new lines...asking because I wasn't aware orange pipe was made for running gas lines and want to make sure it's safe and up to code.
@amandayother9196 Thats sounds scary, especially that your house wasn't supposed to have gas connected to it. Good reason to call 811 before digging. My understanding is the gas company is responsible for the gas line from the street to the meter, the homeowner is responsible for anything past the meter. Who fixed the line? Last year the gas company replaced the line from the street at our house and used the same type of yellow pipe I installed in the back yard. I would call your gas company and talk with them.
Very good video, I have a question,I am going to do a fire pit and a BBQ grill in my yard and my question is, can the gas and electricity lines go together so as not to dig another ditch? And I will need two gas lines if I am going to make a fire pit and a BBQ grill or just need one gas pipe ? the fire pit and the BBQ grill will be separated at a distance of 25ft, thanks
There are building code restrictions when it comes to putting utilities in the same trench. It is possible but needs to be a fairly large trench. I believe they need to be separated 12" vertical and horizontal, but don't quote me, I'm not a contractor, just someone that has been working on my own houses for years. If I had a backhoe and needed to go 50ft, then I would look into how to do the same trench. For me it was easier to dig two trenches.
With the gas lines, you could run one line and put a tee at some point. But you might need to run a 3/4" line, it would depend on how far away from the gas source they are, what else is connected to the gas supply line and what size BBQ and firepit. (How many BTU's for each) There are quite a few charts online that will show you how many BTU's a gas line can handle (size and distance). I find most of my information from some older books that I have, ask contractors I know or search the web.
Also, this is another reason to pull a permit, they will make sure you are doing it safe and correctly. My experience with the inspectors that I have worked with, are very happy to work with homeowners, because we want to do it right and don't cut corners. Have fun with your project and be safe!
@@BruBuilds thank you
Great job and a very informative video. Questions for the producer and the audiences, I am thinking of pulling an underground gas line from my BBQ valve and splitting it to the laundry room to connect it to a gas dryer and to connect to my natural gas BBQ at the patio. The house did not come with a natural gas line in the laundry room. I was wondering if there are any possible complications I need to think about? Will the split allow it to run both the BBQ grill and also the gas dryer at the same time or should I run only one equipment at anytime?
Thanks for the comment and glad you liked the video. It would be hard to give you a precise answer without knowing all the variables. It comes down to how many BTU's your BBQ and dryer need to operate, as well as length of the gas line. Pipe size and length will limit the amount of gas that can be delivered. What size pipe before the split? Here is a webpage that could help you, but you may want a plumber to take a look at what you are wanting to do.
tranesupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/7335301746189-Natural-Gas-Pipe-Sizing-Chart
Very informative. I moved into an old house where the previous owner installed an underground natural gas line to a BBQ grill. I want to remove it.....can I do it myself or do I need to hire a professional?
Hard for me to answer that question. If you are questioning yourself, I would recommend hiring a plumber.
Is the gas line in the way? Was it installed incorrectly? Is there a shut off valve just for the BBQ?
If it was installed correctly with a permit, and you don't what a BBQ, maybe you could turn it into a firepit or fireplace.
@@BruBuilds Well, I live in Houston, TX. It seems I'm not required by law to hire a plumber to cap a gas line. I just wanted your advice on the difficulties of removing the under ground gas line and capping it off. Would it require too much work for a DIY project sort of question. Well thank you for the reply. I will look into a plumber and pricing.
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