Antidepressants and Mass Shootings/Murder Suicide: An interview with Dr. David Healy
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Christ what a wealth of great info here Witt-Doerring. Dr. David Healy is the man. Facing down University of Toronto as they fired him, and tried to silence him. He put them in their place and continued to protect patients and tell the truth. What legend. Kudos for having him on on spreading the word!
Amen
I didn't know he was university of Toronto awesome
@@greg1mcintosh844 He was, he came over from UK but they fired him when he spoke openly about SSRI's causing patients to become violent. He sued, settled for over a million and now holds a position at McMasters University.
@@osteopathichomeopathicking6154 he has a great blog, I found him due to his posts on the c19 vax clinical trial
@@greg1mcintosh844 Bonnie Burstow from UofT - had set up the 1st Scholarship for Anti-psychiatry!
I have SSRI ready for pick up right now. I don't feel safe to take it. I'll quit smoking on my own. Thank you very much.
3,500 years sounds good to me!
I used the nicotine lozenges. I think it worked better than a patch, because I still had control of when and how much, plus, moving the lozenge from one cheek to the other, gave my mouth something to do.
Nicotine patch is "snake oil"!!!!
Who needs nicotine while they're sleeping????
(Patch delivers nicotine over 24hr period) Nicotine lozenges are the best choice, you decide when you need the dose. Support group helps.
I was prescribed 3 different SSRIs when I was tapering off a benzodiazepine. They all made me extremely manic. Their half life is so long it took a week for the side effects to go away. Doctors are over prescribing these medications and don’t understand the risks.
True
You are right; in 2010 his well meaning doctor who genuinely cared for my veteran pal, prescribed a two anti depressants Cipralex and Cymbalta against the advice of the pharmaceutical companies...; he had hallucinations extremely dangerous for both of us; suspicious of me; perhaps thinking I was the enemy hiding behind a bush; I did all I could to keep him calm; doctor and social worker did not return my calls... the police picked him up running along the r.r. tracks; he fought with them; despite this they were good natured with him; one cop later told me he too had suffered ptsd; my pal said later he was planning to lay his head down on the tracks and await the next train. The police took him to hospital where a Lithium shot brought him down. I d have thought the next step would have been to adjust his meds but they put him in a coma and he returned some days later a zombie; no emotion. Friends said there was no sign of mental illness before. For years after; behavior unpredictable. He is no longer with us; I feel if he had different therapy the outcome would have been different; he once said the System has kept me prisoner for twenty years and that the meds were addictive. In 2010 two other citizens of our small town became manic on anti depressants and police had been involved. There are risks. I think a patient should be in hospital under observation when a med is introduced or a dosage changed. Docs say call if there is a problem but s.o. in a manic state does not realize their behavior is abnormal and in any event he too said he had tried to reach the doc or social worker and was also unsuccessful.
Two people i know had full blown psychotic episodes after several months on ssris. From no meds to a diagnosis of depression to ssris to having a diagnosis of mania to antipsychotic meds inside a year.
Dr peter Breggin has been screaming this under water for years.
Robert Whitaker also!
Awesome discussion. This guy should be at every violent crime trial involving SSRI.
Very grateful for you and Doctor Healy drawing attention to these issues
Akathisia isn’t emotional turmoil, it’s hell on earth
I experienced suicidal and homicidal urges caused by reinstatement of an SSRI when I was in withdrawal. Both times I realized what was happening and stopped taking the drug. Originally, when starting Zoloft for anxiety, after a couple of weeks I became suicidality depressed, I had never been depressed before in my life. Unfortunately I didn't make the connection and stayed on the drug for over 13 years because I couldn't get off it. When I did finally manage to come off it, I got very sick with protracted withdrawal and it's taken me the best part of 10 years to recover. I don't take any drugs now and I'm ok. I will never take another psychiatric drug, I'm lucky to be alive, they nearly killed me.
Same experience with zoloft also 13 years use. Now in horrible WD.
Oh my goodness!
After a 2 year withdrawal from Paroxitine , I experienced a deep , consuming rage. It lasted weeks. Thinking back ...I wondered if there was a connection with mass shootings.
Id love to see a study of the shooters meds.
I don't think there will be a study soon.
But I can give you my personal data from my environment: In 4 out of 5 cases of (extended) suicides, psych drugs played a role. And in the last case I can't exclude the possibility of psych drugs (I simply don't know it).
I guess that's successful treatment...
@@kareendeveraux1847 WOW!!! , Thank you!
@@kareendeveraux1847 , Agreed , there won't be a study anytime soon.
In my instance- the rage was definitely more of a homicidal nature....
I too experienced rage during paroxetine withdrawal. I had never felt anger so intense.
Are you trying to place a blame on their doctors ? There is a reason there is a cap on medical malpractice awards...
A good friend of mine jumped on Prozac on the early 90’s. We were all athletes. He played D1 football. The issues lasted for years. Not violent but unmotivated for almost 5 years. And a glorious man became a sad man.
He was corralled as a cash cow!
A valuable message to share with my patients: If you use a psychoactive drug and experience unusual feelings, trust your instincts.
My brother jumped in front of a train...he was on paxil. It could be ancedotal but maybe not. He was depressed and had a lot of problems but we never thought in a million years he would do that.
I very nearly did the exact same when I was on an ssri. I'd jaywalk without looking because getting hit by a bus was a good alternative to making it to my destination.
It made it even worse thinking "I'm already on an antidepressant - this is as good as it can get."
Things were ok when I went off them. Terrible stuff.
So sorry.
I’m so sorry about your brother. Paxil made Juan David Ortiz a serial killer.
@@derp195 😥
😥@bevhatle
What a great video. An ex-FDA employee talking to an expert in adverse behavioural reactions to psychiatric drugs- what's not to like?
I'd love a video on the topic of what regulators are doing about adverse reactions. Why does it takes decades to get any changes to labelling and prescribing guidelines?
You can not like Josef Witt-Doerring has the pharma narrative that PSSD and other issues being extremely rare when there are studies that show the contrary.
You can not like that Josef still is very pro drugs, instead of proposing non drug therapies.
Almost all mental health issues come from lack of human connection, neglect or abuse. None of these can be solved with drugs.
Best wishes.
An 8 year old boy in my family was prescribed SSRIs at a very high dose for "depression" a couple of years ago. He's used to have quite bad tantrums and would sometimes throw stuff in his room when upset (like a lot of kids), but he was always very loving and would never harm anyone.
Over the last 2 years he's become extremely violent and now seems to be almost psychopathic. He regularly attacks children and adults, recently smashing a kid in the face so hard with a blunt object that it fractured his jaw. He also regularly threatens to kill his family members when upset.
I've asked him why he attacks people a few times now and he says things like, "I just felt like it" without any emotion. It's honestly scary. I've never seen anyone as cold as him before. He's like a zombie, although he doesn't seem to cry much anymore so perhaps his "depression" has been treated - assuming 8 year olds can have depression.
Not really..
I think "depression" went up, since people stopped being OUTSIDE
especially kids
@@kathleenking47 I think depression went up since a lot of depressing things have happened, people dont take care of themselves, communities are dissolving AND mental health field keeps diagnosing everyone with it instead of just telling people to eat healthy exercise sleep enough and go outside (like you said) instead they are throwing pills at it.
The brain is still developing. It's madness to throw drugs at kids. Even cocaine is less harmful than psych drugs, and who would give cocaine to kids?
Take your meds and shut up doesn't work for kids! If parents are incapable to parent their children, they use drugs. And then other kids are harmed, too, by the drugged up zombie horde. Just digusting. This is so surreal to even think about it.
It infuriates me that ANY doctor would put an 8 year old kid on an antidepressant 😡! Doctors like that are criminals, in my opinion. I don’t know if you can get through to the parents of the child but I would try to get them to do some research on their own because doctors can’t be trusted. That child could end up being suicidal or, even worse, homicidal. I’ve seen a lot of true crime stories and so many of the killers started out by acting just like you described him now. If he starts killing small animals and enjoys it, he could easily move on to killing people because, like you said, the drugs are making him a zombie and he doesn’t even know it. I’ve been prescribed antidepressants off and on for at least 30 years and, even though I’m not taking any now, I still feel like I’m somewhat heartless about things that should make me cry or have empathy. I stopped taking Cymbalta 5 months ago (cold turkey, dangerous I know) and I’m still dealing with withdrawal symptoms that might take years to get better, if ever. I made some very bad decisions when taking, or stopping, drugs like that. They screwed up my life many times and completely changed the course of many personal relationship decisions and career decisions that destroyed my life. Antidepressants and other psych drugs are creating brain dead people who don’t even realize what is happening to them. Doctors are creating monsters when they prescribe these drugs, especially when they start taking them so young. What they don’t talk about much in these murder cases is that most of these “unruly” kids were put on drugs at a young age when they actually needed discipline and love. I’m not saying the parents don’t love the kid but they are clearly too trusting of doctors and need to be educated about what they’re allowing to happen. I’m so sorry. I hope things get better and he’s able to get off the drugs before anything really bad happens. 🙏
well said and logical; thank you@@dianne61760
My son killed himself last week. Life was going well for him and we are shocked at his final decision. I do know he was on antidepressants and we're still waiting for the blood work from the medical examiner to see what exactly was in him. I'm just now learning about the destruction these drugs cause to people. I wish I would have been more aware in the past, the outcome might have much different.
I’m so sorry.
Please look up online: antidepaware for more info
I've been on like a dozen different neuroleptics. Worst experience of my life was being thrown in jail (my counselor in rehab "forgot" to send a release of information to my probation officer so i was violated upon graduating) and being taken off all my meds cold-turkey. I didn't sleep for weeks. It was torture. After literally staying awake for 20 days straight i was able to get 30 min of sleep, about 2 hrs sleep/night after 1.5 months... they threw me into a psychosis and gave me akathisia, it was traumatic to say the least... after a week or two all I could think about was jumping off the balcony to hopefully knock myself unconscious...
On a few occasions I suddenly became excited about wrapping my car around a tree and offing myself and had to talk myself out multiple times, it was like something took over me, it was terrifying. When I was withdrawing I was almost in 2 car accidents, both times I was unfazed, zero emotional response, no adrenaline... nothing. Neuroleptics can mess up the fight/flight response long-term. I still experience other long-term effects from these dangerous drugs.
"Neurotoxic drugs would not work, if they were not neurotoxic!" - Peter Breggin
What are we going to do? I understand you. Lynn
They credentialed authorities should compensate you with $100k for Assault and life threatening negligence. They also need to be retrained!
I think one reason why these drugs can facilitate acts of violence is not only that they cause these impulses, but also that they blunt the human sense of empathy with other living things that prevent acting out anger even if someone is annoying you.
Often used on prison inmates!
@petrirene That's exactly right and I've experienced the lack of empathy and compassion from family members, so-called friends and even neighbours, who have been on psychiatric drugs for many years, which has been absolute hell! 😥
Doctors talk while peoples lives are completely and utterly destroyed by these awful drugs.
The sheer indifference by the psychiatrists in charge of my care as I came down with terrible side effects to Ritalin (which I should never have been given in the first place) is to me enough to murder them. If I don't get better, I might. As I can't care about anything or anyone currently.
To clarify your statement, is your criticism referring to the doctors in this video (interviewer and interviewee)?
@@TheDavveponkenman, I'm so sorry to hear this... may I ask, how long were you on Ritilan for, was it started in childhood/adolescence and what kinds of dosages were you on?
@@jtzoltan Moderate dosage (supposedly) - 18mg at first and then 38mg. The crazy thing is I only took it for 8 days (38mg on the last day). I started feeling like a zombie and got erectile dysfunction (couldn't feel my genitals at all). I was 32. That was little over a year ago and I'm still not back to normal.
I can't imagine being on that for years, can't see how anyone could willingly.
@@TheDavveponken that's tragic, I'm so sorry to hear that. You should be a case study that psychiatry and GPs all hear about, and certainly you're far from the only one. In fact dr. Josef interviews another doctor who runs the largest online community for people suffering protracted antidepressant withdrawals and at the end of that interview they discuss the fact that there are people who have what appears to be withdrawal symptoms after a single dose or just a few days like you.
I'll find the name of the interview and reply again
I’ve been taking Effexor for about 13 years. The worst thing I ever started. There have been a couple of occasions where I forgot to take it in the morning. And the withdrawal side effects are the worst.
Same here. If I miss even one dose I'll develope a bad migraine with loud tinnitus.
My spouse became a serial shoplifter when he was on an ssri. Not violent, but a similar disregard.
I wonder if also seeking an emotional rush...like adrenaline surge..?
Thank you so much for this critical information. It sounds like the psychiatric branch of the medical/educational system needs to be updated and drug companies need to have better warnings about side effects. im also surprised we didn't hear anything about medical malpractice. We look to our doctors to advise us. Do they know the side effects or not. What about erring on the side of caution - reducing doses rather than upping doses and actually taking seriously what thoughts patients report having. I am shocked at the misadvisement all these patients received from their doctors, who should have some responsibility and accountability. The drug companies push their commercials every 5 mins on TV for us to ask our doctors for their drugs. Shouldn't a trained professional advise on drugs. How does the average person know what drugs they need. Pharm seems predatory to me.
What about good nutrition and natural remedies? I think a more wholistic approach is needed, but it seems the medical system is so divided. There are no easy answers.
Lost a nephew to suicide last weekend. He had a new doctor and new prescription due to his doctor moving away. We are heartbroken.
Forcing people to take neurotoxic drugs is 2nd Degree Assault - at least!
An Australian man in Margaret River started taking Prozac and two days later killed his wife and kids. He was a well known, well loved and a very kind man. He got manslaughter not murder because of the meds. I think the judges know these drugs cause these horrific crimes. I think the laws have been changed. 😢
This didn't happen, until the 90s IMO
I heard the Columbine shooters were in these
@@kathleenking47not sure what's Imo
My Canadian veteran pal became manic on meds; I think your judges are on the ball as you say.
@@kathleenking47Lanza, columbine, Cho. Virtually all of them on SSRIs.
@@cathleenmcmahan8794IMO= in my opinion
My sister took her own a little over a year ago. She was taking Paxil that her doctor prescribed to her. She was NOT suicidal before being treated with Paxil!
Paxil made my sister suicidal, she shot herself in the head. Leaving behind her daughter and son.
I’m so sorry about your sister. Paxil made Juan David Ortiz into a serial killer and ruined his life.
I had a reaction to Fluoxetine just like prescribed.. Just wild rage whenever concious. Wanting to argue, fight.. I was prescribed for depression. I was off it almost instantly. Wild rage couldn't be further from my base line personality.
Unbelievable how these drugs have changed so many people so drastically. I hope you are all better and healing. God Bless
MK ultra trance. Psychic connections
@@firstlast2386 MK Ultra!
Thank you soo much Dr Healy. I am going to share this video. I think people need to see this. My dad committed suicide in 2000. He had been taking Proza for several years & when he stopped it, he was suffering from discontinuation syndrome. We didn't know. He was put back on Prozac then the dosage was increased & when he continued to get worse he was changed to Effexor. No one thought he would take his own life. I know it was the drugs. All these mass shootings I also believe are from these SSRI'S. Somehow we need to get this truth out to the public. Thanks again
Big Pharma has been lying and poisoning us while profiting too! They own the politicians and FDA
Dear Linda, I am so sorry about your dad.
The GP nearly killed me. I dud not need antidepressants. I am mentally 100 per cent healthy person. I went to the GP with a physical problem. I survived but have terrible physical health problems now. This is a long story, I will never ever trust GPs or psychiatrists! This is awfully inhumane, my small children would not have their mother now! I would love to tell my story in full to warn people against this medical malpractice with antidepressants. If people really do not need them, why to poison them or kill like that! Sorry but I never believed that such things can happen until I am a victim of it myself! Thank you Dr Healy for a diffrent humane approach ❤.
I am a senior. In the space of 1 month, 3 seniors I knew who were depressed and lonely, were prescribed Prozac and within a couple of weeks all 3 committed suicide.
My doctor wanted to prescribe gabapentin or Lyrica for arthritic pain. I rejected it. My ex-husband was on gabapentin for six months and went from being able to do 15-20 crosswords every day to not knowing how to change the TV channel. When he started driving very erratically, he was picked up for assessment. He died of covid while in hospital, but I suspect they deliberately put a covid patient in his room because he was extremely high maintenance.
Be your own health advocate people. Don’t fill any prescription without researching it and checking the side effects. Your doctor has not researched what he/she prescribes but just takes the salesman’s word for it, especially after being wined and dined.
Thank you Dr joseph for all your info and the truth of SSRI
Any serious side effect in more than 1 in 100,000, or deadly side effect in more than 1 in 1 million, needs to be evaluated immediately and the FDA needs to issue a warning to the public, not just on the packaging.
FDA doesn't seem to say anything about the new Weed rules - THC rich!
After listening to this, anyone still having problems understanding taking these "drugs" isn't in your best interest?
Love the videos, it’s really entertaining to hear and educate myself on these issues.
I love this video. I keep watching it to listen to these two Knowledgeable doctors.
Breggin and Healey have done the most in researching these drugs extensively.
Jim Gottstein !
EVERY SINGLE MASS SHOOTER has been on a SSRI
Is that true? Do you have citations?
These incidents were basically unheard of before SSRI's came onto the market.
Here are just a few examples:
1989: Joseph T. Wesbecker walked into his former employer Standard Gravure Corp and shot 20 workers, killing nine. He had been taking Prozac for a month. This shooting led to a landmark case, where the survivors sued the makers of Prozac, Eli Lilly. Wesbecker used a semiautomatic Chinese AK-47-style firearm, a 9mm pistol, and a .38 Special snub nose revolver - all of which he purchased legally, passing his background check.
1995: Jarred Viktor was 15 when he was prescribed Paxil. Ten days after starting it, Viktor stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
1996: At 18, Kurt Danysh murdered his father just 17 days after being prescribed Prozac by his family doctor, who failed to do even one psychological test. During his police confession, Danysh told police the medication made him feel odd, “I just act differently. I don’t have the energy or personality I used to. I spend half the time in a trance.”
1997: Luke Woodham stabbed his mother, then traveled to Pearl High School, where he was enrolled, using a .30-30 to shoot two students and wounding six others; he was stopped by his assistant principal (aka a good guy with a gun) who used his own .45 ACP handgun to force Woodham’s surrender.
1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel shot both of his parents, then carried a 9mm handgun, .22 rifle, and a .22 pistol to his Thurston High School, where he murdered two classmates and injured 22 more, all while taking Prozac.
1999: Eric Harris, 17, with Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students, one teacher, himself, and wounded 23 others during the Columbine school shooting; he had been prescribed Zoloft and then Luvox before he used a 12 gauge shotgun received through a straw purchaser and a 9mm TEC-DC9.
2001: Christopher Pittman, a 12-year-old, was prescribed Zoloft, which caused him to become agitated, jittery, and experience tactile hallucinations; Pittman told psychiatrist Dr. Lanette Atkins that he heard voices telling him, “Kill, kill, do it, do it.” He took a .410 shotgun and shot his grandparents, then burned their house down.
2001: Andrea Yates drowned all five of her children. She was taking Effexor and was suffering from delusions about satanic possession. The murder of her children led Effexor to list homicidal thoughts in the medication’s side effects. Although it’s a rare side effect, manifesting in one in 1,000 patients, over 19 million prescriptions were written and filled in 2005. That’s an estimated 19,000 people suffering from homicidal thoughts because of the medication.
2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise was taking 60 mg/day of Prozac, the highest dosage for adults, when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend, murdered 10 students at Red Lake, Minnesota, and wounded 12 more, before shooting himself. He was armed with a .40 caliber pistol, .22 pistol, and a 12 gauge shotgun.
2008: Steven Kazmierczak was prescribed Prozac, Xanax, and Ambien, a sleeping medication, three weeks before walking into Northern Illinois University, killing six people and wounding 21, with three pistols (one chambered in 9mm and two in .380 ACP) and a shotgun. Kazmierczak had stopped taking the antidepressant “because it made him feel like a zombie.”
2009: Two weeks after starting Lexapro, Robert Stewart walked into his estranged wife’s work at Pinelake Health and Rehab, and opened fire. He killed eight elderly patients and wounded three others. He doesn’t remember the incident.
2012: James Holmes, also known as the Batman Movie killer, was taking sertraline when he walked into the showing of The Dark Knight with two .40 caliber pistols, an AR-style .223 rifle, and a 12 gauge shotgun, killing 12 people and injuring 70 others. In his personal notebook, which he sent to his psychiatrist the same day as the shooting, shows that as the medication decreased his anxiety, he lost his fear of consequences. As the dosage became higher, his thoughts became more obsessive and psychotic.
2013: At the time of the Washington Navy Yard shooting, Aaron Alexis was a civilian contractor working at the yard and was prescribed trazodone, a serotonin antagonist and reuptake inhibitor (SARI) that works much like an SSRI to increase serotonin levels in the brain. He killed 12 people and injured eight others.
2014: Ivan Lopez was a 34-year-old U.S. soldier who shot 15 of his comrades, killing three of them, at his base in Fort Hood, Texas. He was undergoing mental health treatment through the Veterans’ Administration, which is known for over-prescribing medication. The VA confirmed that Lopez was taking antidepressants (the VA only uses SSRI antidepressants) during the time of the shooting and his subsequent suicide.
2015: From the moment it occurred, the Charleston Church shooting has been deemed an act of white supremacy, a race crime against blacks. But two years after Dylann Roof shot and killed nine people and injured another, the court released documents that show it was more mental health than hatred that led to the murders. The documents confirmed he was taking antidepressants.
2016: Arcan Cetin, who was just 20 years old, walked into the Cascade Mall where he shot and killed four women, one just a teen, and shot one man, who later died at the hospital. Records show that Cetin was under the care of a psychiatrist and taking medication for depression and ADHD, including Prozac.
The list goes on and on. And with the implication of patient privacy laws, getting information on the medication and mental health diagnoses of people has become harder and harder, even with mounting evidence that there’s a connection between SSRI use and violence
@@havadatequila The CZcams channel
INTERNATIONAL COALITION FOR DRUG AWARENESS
and doctor Ann Blake Tracy follow this issue since Columbine school shooting days.
There are many videos here on CZcams.
Their videos have very few views.
David Healy videos cover many cases of shootings that have 30 years now too.
The attention is always deflected to videogames or some other silly cause, not to mention the USA school social isolation / discrimination issues and family issues that cause young persons to be drugged in the first place.
Best wishes.
@@havadatequilaSsri nightmare stories. Google it. Then get back to me.
@@Q1776Qa point of distinction... technically speaking mass shooting events include gangland shootings where as I recall, at least 3 people are shot and killed or even just wounded.
So you might state the caveat that excluding gang-related/criminal mass shooting episodes, virtually all others involve SSRI medications.
I wish more people understood this problem but it's impossible to describe the changes that these pills can make to you and others without actually experiencing it first-hand. They are so dangerously tossed around nowadays without precautions and the results are not very good as intended.
Just curious how this goes down... Just searching the family of drug and the basic term for what the good doctor spoke about in regards to Colorado brought up a disturbing fact checker banner at the top of CZcams itself...
It claims that antidepressants have no link to events like the one in Colorado... Because big pharma pays to keep it separate from the facts.
Very grateful toboth of you for all the work you do.
I didn't get violent but instead simply experienced a complete loss of the ability to feel any emotions at all on Paxil. I developed an alcohol habit that l supported by casually walking into liquor stores and strolling out again while not being bothered about making any sort of payment, at least for the liquor. I would buy some small item to have a reason for being there and looked well presented so l would rarely get caught. I guess my body language was so relaxed and indifferent that l just looked really innocent and invisible. Ironically the level of apathy that l suddenly felt from the drug was one of the few things that vaguely bothered me. Awful withdrawals when l quit cold turkey. Couldn't even swivel my eyes suddenly or l would get dizzy so l consciousky had to keep trying to stare straight ahead and simply slowly move my head instead if l had to look around at something. Probably looked like a zombie. Still as hard as that was those withdrawals were laughably easy compared to benzos. Oh boy. Phew.
I’m so sorry about Paxil. Paxil made Juan David Ortiz into a serial killer.
Love these videos
What a terrible indictment of these deadly brain altering drugs.
They really can't check the blood .
I'm not even a doctor and I was wondering how many if these shooters are on ssri meds. If they can cause one to kill themselves then couldn't they cause ppl to kill others?
Very good question indeed.
Most of them are. Its the most well kept rabbit hole nobody discusses 🤫🤫
@@user-py2nz4qx8f The positivist assertions and sincerity of Mental Health professionals - still fool many!
Shortly after I started taking Citalopram for chronic depression I experienced much of what was mentioned in this interview. Eventually I became so scared at my disinhibition to violence that I discontinued taking them immediately. I've experienced plenty of hypomania before and it felt nothing like that - delirious agitation is a much better descriptor!
Thank you so much for speaking about this
I see a major distinction between cases like those mentioned, and simmilar cases that exhibit one small (perhaps arbitrary) difference.
When a person reacts badly to a prescribed pharmaceutical and kills somebody, there is a distinct reluctance to investigate the causality of the drug.
Conversely, when a person has imbibed a recreational, mind altering drug, and subsequently performs a heinous act -there is a far greater propensity for people to point at the temporal correlation of intoxicant and action.
The power of hubris!
I was experiencing acathysia always when on SSRI or SNRI. It is hell. And psychiatrists never believed me and even increased the dose, so this state got worst! It was combination of restlesness, unease, anger, frustration and you cannot discharge this state into anything. You need to wait it out - usually couple of hours, half of the day. I learned that over the years. You can run, you can write, kick the pillows, talk. Nothing helps. Its pure madness.
Mood stabilizers help with that, but as I learned later they just diminish the activity of every neurotransmitter in the brain, becouse they affect GABA. So the problem get cover up, not solution.
By chance I had read some of Dr. Peter Breggins writings and it helped when my friend had an adverse reaction to prescribed meds. As he said later I had saved his life. Had I not read Breggins work I would not have had a clue as to what was happening which included hallucinations; rapid cycling down to every five minutes at its peak; suicidality; all this from a mistake in meds.; his doctor had combined two anti depressants. I learned from this that these meds are incredibly powerful and the greatest care must be taken. When my friend went through this, a girl athlete in town, also was undergoing a mania from a prescribed anti depressant. Take care people; ask questions. .
Ive seen 45 years of the carnage that this has done to so many good, sensitive people. Most of thise still taking all the drugs have severe Stockholm Syndrome and the fsmilies ..even after their lived ones die devades too soon, swear that all thise good drs, drugs and systems were saviors.
Denial aint just a River in Egypt. I closely observed all of this and took notes while i was also prey to it.
Some are in cahoots!
This man is brilliant
The folk who administer hallucinogenic plant medicines like iboga , ayahuasca etc. seem very concerned that the plant that they use should be able to help the person and not have an adverse effect.
They always seem to administer a small dose first to check for a bad reaction.
Ssris patients by comparison get their pills sometimes with the advice that they may not work for a fortnight or so, and also may make you feel worse before things improve.
More supervision perhaps with a low dose to check for the beginnings of symtoms of an adverse reaction would be more caring and responsible ( and expensive.)
I agree. I have been to hell and back, having been prescribed and hooked on opiates at 15 years of age, and benzos along with the opiates in my 20's.
My current addiction "specialist" has been slowly tapering me off of Suboxone and klonopin, and prescribed 150mg of Wellbutrin 8 months ago to help depression. I got to a point where I was pretty irritable on it, and I told my doctor I thought about stopping it, since it didn't seem to be working as intended, but she said to try doubling the dose to 300mg. I wound up in a very dark place, and suicidal. I never thought I would feel that way. I told my doctor that I ended up stopping it, and that I felt much better. She told me that was great news. Then a couple weeks later, I was in full withdrawal. I didn't realize it for several days, but when I did, I started taking 150mg again.
Right now, I'm still in withdrawal after having been back on 150mg for a few days, but I have no idea what to do, or where to turn. I'm struggling with finances, so I feel I have to go to work no matter what, I'm struggling with training a new employee at work, but I feel like I have to try to hold it together, I have a dear friend's birthday tomorrow, and the mere fact that I haven't gotten a gift for her is bothering me much more than it should. It's no wonder people who go through this do crazy things. The smallest things make you feel like you're going to lose it, and a lot of times, the people around you don't understand or care, the doctors are extremely lackadaisical about it and just say to give it a few days and you'll feel better, and I'm afraid to say anything to anyone at work, because I don't want them to think I'm crazy. We are woefully under-equipped to handle these kinds of mental health crisis in the States.
(If you read this far, I apologize. I just feel lost, and I used this as an outlet. I may very well be fine in a few days, as my doctor suggested, but I'm shaken by how unexpectedly, and how quickly this all snuck up on me.)
@@hangingchad_ sorry to hear about your withdrawals. You are currently trying to get off the wellbutrin, correct? Can you taper the dose slowly instead of stopping cold turkey? I'm guessing that's how you ended up in withdrawals.
I think wellbutrin 300 is a tablet, which can be carefully cut into smaller proportions.
If it's a time release capsule, you can open the cap and pour out the little beads in a small dish. Then divide the little beads into groups of 10 or 20. Hope that makes sense.
Very sensible, i think we should adopt that approach across all drugs legal and illegal that have an effect on the psyche.
Some of my buddies who took lsd or mdma for kicks could have definitely benefitted
it explains many of my behaviors while I was open sari....
It's all true...
Makes sense. No pill can change your thoughts. Terrible thoughts + medicine that motivates you to take action = True Horror
If pills can change your emotions and emotions can cause thoughts.. Then, yes. Pills can cause changed thoughts.
The can create new thoughts, violent thoughs.
Holy s*** at around 11:10 the story he tells of the man having agitation and violent thoughts (mine were directed at myself) within hours of taking an antidepressant is exactly what happens to me on all the SSRI’s I’ve tried. Every psychiatrist told me I was imagining it, or accused me of not being cooperative. But I stop them within 1-3 days because they wouldn’t stop. I couldn’t make these violent images of stabbing myself, putting my hand on a red hot burner, cutting my face- disturbingly violent images- stop. I was scared I’d hurt myself, and I didn’t want to. I was afraid if I took the antidepressants longer, It might change that innate aversion to self harm and I might do it. Crazy to realize that this is not some “unknown side effect.”
Prozac made me suicidal, as did Celexa and Effexor.
These drugs need to be taken down
Along with the Freudian disease-like Labels!
It's not rare!!!! It is just misdiagnosed or buried.
Ty ❤
Notice how there is never any criticism of these types of medications on TV. It’s because they’re funded by big pharmaceutical companies.
The idea that a drug makes a user "better than well," may be the delusional effect of the drug. The observer sees something else in the person taking the drug. Like lack of engagement in life. Or more.
Used in prisons!
very interesting, i like your content
Charles Bishop was only 15 when he was prescribed the acne drug Isotretinoin and he flew his small plane into a 42-story building, he could have killed hundreds of people. Charles showed no outward signs of depression, mania, anxiety etc although he left a note highlighting signs of irrational though processes and this should be a great concern because dermatologists prescribe it stating that they will monitor patients and stop treatment if necessary. The point is homicidal and suicidal tendencies can be spontaneous so no amount of monitoring is going to prevent these events so why are dermatologists prescribing these drug to kids for acne!! Of course there is no accountability, dermatologists argue that it is acne that is making kids suicidal and that the kids committing homicide are just psycho kids who need locking up and that exactly what they did to 15 year old Aiden Von Grabow. If you look at the details you will see that the homicide was a frenzied and manic attack but the judge wouldn't even let Aiden use Isotretinoin as a defense, they just locked the kid up for 40 years without even investigating the side effects of this drug.
My hope is someone investigates this with all the mass shooting. What medication was the shooter on?
The shootings are horrible. Find the reason for them! 😢
Would you please consider some way to show the spelling of some of these medication names, especially where they are not plainly discerned by ear. This helps us look up further info. Thanks ( Raysurfin)?
Reserpine I think
Reserpine is a blood pressure drug but also has psychoactive effects.
Risperidone I believe.
Push the little square on your youtube screen, that says cc. Then you will see all the words to the conversation, at the bottom of the screen.
@@olympics1234567 Thank you: ) I wish I had thought of that! It was very helpful : )
Of course this truth has been obvious to anyone with 1/2 a brain for quite awhile.
So this complete denial by the Psychiatric / Pharmaceutical complex
is understandable.
They are sincere and publish many Research Papers - thus are yet keeping their Protection Racket!
Does the FDA and Pharma - have interchangeable personnel?
I would challenge the idea that the drugs do much at all for depression. See work of Irving Kirsch. Most of the effect is placebo. They are mostly placebo with bad side effects. The drugs are prescribed for ibs. The side effect is constipation which seems counter productive.
Singing in a Glee Club every day - will lift depression!
My doctor sindy Tadros put me on serquil and i havent been the same since. I see myself failing myself my dog my life and my husband had a stroke he isnt right to notice how sick this medicine has made me i went inti the ER with tremors and We took me off cold turkey and put me on gabapentin. My brain is hurt i have insomnia due to my marriage i dont know where to turn.
How many school shooters were on psychotropic drugs? Same for other mass shooting? Just curious, not sarcasm.
Doctors refuse to ask that information and no one will tell. Its almost like they are purposely leaving it out.
I would also like to know, but even if there would be a retrospective study done to collect the data it wouldn't change anything.
Cause and correlation are hard to prove... Did they commit mass shootings because they were on drugs or is the sign they were on those types of medication a sign that they were mentally ill and that's why they committed the shooting..
@@schneetreiben6749 Mental Illness - is itself and lends itself to disease-like DSM labeling - that is then Justification...; James Davies is good on this!
Sure thing. I'm a non responder but the sting in the tail I can't come off them!
Some other psychiatrist on here makes no mentions on these topics.
Who's that
Anyone out their with insomnia and your doctor put you on serquil?
My mother has been on 'sleeping pills' for years and I recently discovered it's Seroquel. She had no idea what it actually was.
I have got a friend gone crazy from abusing benzo
Which is the drug mentioned by Healy at the beginning of the video?
Recitan?
Best wishes.
I think it was Reserpine.
@@Gabrielswe100
Yes it was.
Oh dear, no mention or warnings of suicide and homicide in the reserpine Wikipedia article!
Thank you.
What are the antihistamines with SSRI’s?
We need to know.
they are mentioned on rxisk pssd definition, there are many other drugs that cause pssd, like tramadol.
Can't write the link, as CZcams spam filter censors the comment.
Best wishes.
@@ajax700
So, they’re only in certain prescription antihistamines?
Chlorpheniramine
Sometimeswedonthaveachoicebuttotakethesemedsorweareledtojailorotherplaces
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It seems absolutely irresponsible and unethical to me to burden consumers of these medications with this stigma. Are factors being taken into account such as economic problems, past in the army, social isolation...etc...Debts, divorces, personal failures? There are millions of patients taking these medications who do not commit suicide or kill people, this extrapolation of data seems dangerous to me just to validate a theory.
What is irresponsible is not making patients aware of these possible side effects!
I got on Phen-fen in the 90’s and contemplated leaving my husband and 2 very young children, I got off of it and never had those thoughts again.
They kill all emotion making you apathetic i can totally see how you can commit suicide or murder on them, it was hell detoxing off them but i was sick of feeling nothing no enjoyment no joy no love no pleasure just nothing!
How are you now?
Hi Dr Healy. Always love listening to you speak!!