Tito is a great fighter and an awesome teacher. Problem nowadays he also tries to teach people things he isn't good at. Have you seen his video cutting an onion?
This should be mandatory viewing for MMA fans. I love the meme that is Tito Ortiz as much as the next guy, but I love to see this side of him. Smart, eloquent, thoughtful, generous... He's got a good heart and I think people forget that when they hear about how much of an old mature Tito is and how much Tito wants to outlive his children 🤣
Tito was never smart, but he used to be very articulate. Great speaker. I honestly think it’s CTE. Not to mention that he abused drugs as a youth, we don’t know if that had consequences on his brain that worsened with age. He’s dumb but he’s not a bad guy.
@@BiggityBoggity8095it seems most of his ridiculousness comes out when he is the sole focus of attention. IE he gets nervous and farts out of his mouth uncontrollably. In certain settings he is very well spoken, just not telling Christopher Walken stories or crushing juice boxes on EPSN.
@@latinobandido7471yea I kinda agree, you can tell very quickly that he's not a dumb guy, sometimes ppl esp when there put on the spot, you'd be supirsed how tough some ppl are, that hate talking in front of ppl, and it messes with there nerves
@@latinobandido7471 Yeah and those certain settings involve being able to edit the footage before airing it, know what I mean. When he is live and that mouth gets too far ahead of that brain, he gets tossed up. That's not his fault, that is just who he is. A pre-recorded show like TUF though? Tito is the coolest dude on the block and can sell ketchup ice cubes to eskimos. I liked Tito before TUF but I REALLY liked him after it.
All jokes aside - Tito was by far the coach to get… he seems like he not only tried but genuinely cared. His ground n pound back in the day was frightening.
@@carter3369 how so ? The Bloke was tough as nails and even hid his bad eye to continue and almost become blind in his good eye, to make sure his family was good. I see Tito definitely making a bad choice with Matt, was only good at wrestling/judo. His fight was sloppy af and bisping would have destroyed him if was to go on.
Looking back, it's easy to tell why Tito was a star. Didn't realize how good his wrestling skills were. This old footage is golden. Shame how they've made a meme out of him now. The Huntington Beach Bad Boy! 🔥
Described me prefect I just turned 30 but I still remember being like 12ish and just getting into the UFC and learning as much as I could not wanting to miss an event lol Man I was a big fan of Tito for a while after this season and watching him beat up shamrock twice lol I never liked Shamrock even though he did kinda get cheated here lol
I don't know a damn thing about MMA. But I do know that Tito Ortiz has been very involved in steering kids away from drugs and crime. He has given his time and experience in speaking to teens, including at my son's high school, and for that he's my hero.
Tito is an incredible coach. He got Kendall to the point where he was able to beat Ed and Kalib, nowadays those aren't upsets but at the time they were. I think a solid case could be made that Ortiz is the best TUF coach ever and ironically, you wouldn't have thought he would end up being a great coach prior to the show due to his personality.
Bisping's reaction to Ross showing up for the semi-finals is one of my all time favorite TUF moments. Pointon may not be the best fighter but he has the heart of a champion.
Tito gets a lot of hate but he really was a fantastic coach, and I believe he’s a good guy deep down. CTE is no joke and I believe it was a large contributor to him becoming less articulate when speaking. Wish him the very best
My first ufc PPV that I ever ordered was UFC 40 and at that time Tito was the man! People were calling him the pound for pound best fighter at the time which sounds crazy now lol. And his walk out at ufc 40 to limp bizkits break stuff is still my favorite walkout ever. And he was a good coach. Man have times changed!
as someone who's just gotten into watching mma over the past year i think tito is the man and the memes don't take away whatsoever from this version of him imho
@kennghost As a long time fan, that's because you didn't witness his decline in real time. It's all available for you to watch at your leisure. Tito may have been the man, but it was for a very brief period in time. You also have to realize all of the memes about him are because of things he has actually said and/or done. It's all legit Tito.
Damn dude that sucks for Matt Hamill that they had to explain to him that he wasn’t going to be fighting Friday. Homie really just wanted to fight again
By ALL accounts ken shamrock is a horrible guy. I have heard stories of 1) he treats children fans badly 2) CRIPPLED opponents on purpose a la palhares On the other hand FRANK shamrock is a good dude - ken and frank are adopted into a group home not biological brothers btw. Frank shanrock personally wrote letters to my friend who got off drugs. Frank sent him all sorts of signed memorabilia and encouragement - told know one - I only know because it was hung up in my friend’s house
Tito was at his most likable when he was a coach opposite ken shamrock, because he actually cared about his fighters and helped them greatly but ken only wanted to help himself
This footage showed how much of a heart and mindset Tito has. He’s a real badass and one of the OG’s to do a takedown and smash you in with brutal ELBOW strikes.
Bisping became well liked after he won the title form rockhold, but before that, he was a massive douchebag, who treated everyone terribly, maybe the dan handerson KO put a bit of humbling into him
Bisping was so hated back then, that DH BOMB really humbled him. After that KO he seemed to have changed and slowly became more likeable and respectful.
This might be the same channel but...I've already watched every TUF Season in chronological order. 10 to 15minute segments all put together very well so...when I saw this pop up I thought "I've Already Seen All Of These Before I Won't See Anything New"...well here I am over an hour in and I still haven't seen anything new. But I just do not get bored of these things🤣🙌🏽
I have never liked Tito until watching these shows! It's completely changed my opinion of him,,, he is a great coach , and a damn good person. I can see why his fighters learn and gel. He has the right attitude.
tito was really good here. man good coach and stategic. shown as a dummy in interviews etc but he was a good coach here and seemed a lot more coherent as well and sharper. poor guy with the cte. very supportive - getting the interpreter is gold. tito really kept his cool as well. ken was out of control. supposed to not be a good trainer at all.
This was one of my favourite seasons of TV period. Tito as a coach was amazing, there was still a freshness to the show but it'd been established enough by then. Such a great season
Tito still the biggest middle weight that ever stepped in the octagon. I know this light heavyweight but back then I swear dude was the biggest middle weight you’d ever seen. What a time 😢
@@DrFurburgermight be real? 😂 Repeated hits to the head without a doubt cause short and long term effects. Especially when these fighters are taking extreme weight cuts to make their fight. They’re brain is more likely to rattle when hit.
@@DrFurburgerlmfao, dude, have u seen those football players brains after they died? Literally fucking carvings of brain raw ting away in the center due too constant head trauma, the rest is still fine and intact even after being extracted outa the skull
Tuf was so good back then. Why cant it be this good anymore? Even with the past 2 seasons, fighters like McGregor vs Chandler, pena vs nunes. They dont focus on fighter dilemma/drama in the house. the coaches dont go at each other.
It’s so nice to watch Dana enjoy his favorite part of the show, the coaches challenge. A day when the fighters get to kick back and relax, and all the pressure is on the coaches.
Outside of Michael Bispings biography spoiling this season, seeing Tito like this has definitely endeared him way more to me. I never disliked Tito even when he became a meme. He's a good dude underneath all the fight promotion nonsense.
Tito isn't a villain as much as a village idiot. Hes Lawnmower Man before the computer. He has a lot of heart but not so much brains. Im a fan. He's a legend in the sport whether we like it or not. Whether we laugh or not.
Father time wasn't kind to Tito but as Mike Goldberg whould say, he truly is a legend of the UFC. He came time and time again and even on a 4 year losing streak he came back and got a shocking win against Bader as a serious underdog. Heart of a lion.
If Tito only knew one day, Matt would beat them in MMA. He wouldn’t trained him so good lol 😂 cant believe Tito actually lost to Matt Hamill in the UFC.
I'm only 43 years old; I'm an old mature. I mean I'm matured old that I mean very fast but at the same time my body hasn't matured great just because my father is really old; my father is 80 years old and my grandmother is 100 years old so my body is in great shape.
I thought the crowd was so wrong with the ortiz shamrock fight. Ortiz could of killed ken if the ref did not step in. Ken was not even trying to defend. He was taking elbow after elbow and did not even try to stop one.
Shies the kind if stand up guy Brad Tavares is, to be on the opposite side and encouraging the guy not to quit....how it should be, to encourage anyone who is down,tobget uo and fight or to continue....not to give up.
23:06 "This is like chest... We'll take a pond out at a time, untill we're checkmate" Aren't you supposed to put the opponent into checkmate, Tito? Lol
I forgot how much i enjoyed this series..an the respect that grew for Tito after this.. an seeing a young Matt Hamill.. lol.. the only man to have a W on Bones Jones! 😅 who would of thought !
I forgot how wholesome and likable Tito could be…
Yeah, he was a good coach. Ken also didn’t do a good job and kind of made it easier for Tito.
Yeah and his brain wasn't so scrambled 😂
Tito is a great fighter and an awesome teacher. Problem nowadays he also tries to teach people things he isn't good at. Have you seen his video cutting an onion?
I love how he called them boys and kids and children… like Tito your less than 10 years older than all of them… lol
Kinda bums me out everyone makes fun of him for having brain damage and shit , dudes an absolute legend of the sport but gets treated like a joke 🤦♂️
This should be mandatory viewing for MMA fans. I love the meme that is Tito Ortiz as much as the next guy, but I love to see this side of him. Smart, eloquent, thoughtful, generous... He's got a good heart and I think people forget that when they hear about how much of an old mature Tito is and how much Tito wants to outlive his children 🤣
Bro he will never outlive that comment 😭
Tito was never smart, but he used to be very articulate. Great speaker. I honestly think it’s CTE. Not to mention that he abused drugs as a youth, we don’t know if that had consequences on his brain that worsened with age. He’s dumb but he’s not a bad guy.
@@BiggityBoggity8095it seems most of his ridiculousness comes out when he is the sole focus of attention. IE he gets nervous and farts out of his mouth uncontrollably. In certain settings he is very well spoken, just not telling Christopher Walken stories or crushing juice boxes on EPSN.
@@latinobandido7471yea I kinda agree, you can tell very quickly that he's not a dumb guy, sometimes ppl esp when there put on the spot, you'd be supirsed how tough some ppl are, that hate talking in front of ppl, and it messes with there nerves
@@latinobandido7471 Yeah and those certain settings involve being able to edit the footage before airing it, know what I mean. When he is live and that mouth gets too far ahead of that brain, he gets tossed up. That's not his fault, that is just who he is. A pre-recorded show like TUF though? Tito is the coolest dude on the block and can sell ketchup ice cubes to eskimos. I liked Tito before TUF but I REALLY liked him after it.
All jokes aside - Tito was by far the coach to get… he seems like he not only tried but genuinely cared. His ground n pound back in the day was frightening.
"If we stay in control we're going to stay in control "
Tito Ortiz
I think he means if we get to pick the fight, then we’ll win and we get to pick the next fight
That makes sense.
Bisping was right about how he felt. Tito put all his eggs in Mat Hamills basket but Bisping was the one to go on, win and become a world champion
Bisping was wrong.
You can win against an opponent or you can not.
Bisping is the worst champion in UFC history
@@carter3369 how so ? The Bloke was tough as nails and even hid his bad eye to continue and almost become blind in his good eye, to make sure his family was good. I see Tito definitely making a bad choice with Matt, was only good at wrestling/judo. His fight was sloppy af and bisping would have destroyed him if was to go on.
Bisping was very lucky. He lost to Hamill
Bisping lost that belt he somehow won to a 170lbr who was out for years
Looking back, it's easy to tell why Tito was a star. Didn't realize how good his wrestling skills were. This old footage is golden. Shame how they've made a meme out of him now. The Huntington Beach Bad Boy! 🔥
There way closer to an olimpic gold medalist in wresting then you are to them in wrestling, there's levels
he made a meme out out of him himself!
Tito himself will probably watch this video. It's really well done and does his TUF career justice.
Hope he doesn’t cut onions while doing it
Tito didn't make this video?
Its crazy to think that this was ufc 61 and now we are 30 years old and heading into ufc300
Described me prefect I just turned 30 but I still remember being like 12ish and just getting into the UFC and learning as much as I could not wanting to miss an event lol Man I was a big fan of Tito for a while after this season and watching him beat up shamrock twice lol I never liked Shamrock even though he did kinda get cheated here lol
It was my first ppv I ever watched.
I don't know a damn thing about MMA. But I do know that Tito Ortiz has been very involved in steering kids away from drugs and crime. He has given his time and experience in speaking to teens, including at my son's high school, and for that he's my hero.
Okay buddy. Where's the punchline?
Tito is actually a really solid dude man , Rampage always talks about how much Tito mentioned him when they trained together in HB
Tito is an incredible coach. He got Kendall to the point where he was able to beat Ed and Kalib, nowadays those aren't upsets but at the time they were. I think a solid case could be made that Ortiz is the best TUF coach ever and ironically, you wouldn't have thought he would end up being a great coach prior to the show due to his personality.
He is the best coach they act like he’s dumb but he’s one of the goats
he was a good coach on season 3, but subesquently not
I appreciate that Tito refers to his team as team punishment rather than team Ortiz, it's small but it shows its not about him
Pre CTE tito was actually a super well thought out individual 😅
pre CTE tito is crazy brooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sea level cain, trt vitor, 5th round lawler, or pre CTE tito
He still tried to use clever comebacks when talking shit and failed even back then. Trading witticisms was not one of his talents.
Bisping's reaction to Ross showing up for the semi-finals is one of my all time favorite TUF moments. Pointon may not be the best fighter but he has the heart of a champion.
Tito was one of the best coaches ever on TUF.
Tito gets a lot of hate but he really was a fantastic coach, and I believe he’s a good guy deep down. CTE is no joke and I believe it was a large contributor to him becoming less articulate when speaking. Wish him the very best
This was Titos best and only moment.
Damn, fresh Michael Bisping looks heaps like Sean Strickland
I called CAP as soon as I heard Shamrock say he can’t play pool. I’ve never met an Irish man who can’t play pool
Tito actually a good coach
Tito is living rent free in Ed's head.
Tito is a legend and one of the best TUF coaches ever
Tito team was genius Dean Lister and RIP Saul Soliz the godfather of texas mma
love when they humbled Matt Hammel fuck around find out
Tito was a beast as a fighter and genius as a coach
Always loved Tito, met him at the Saddle Ranch, so polite and gracious, and that head is like a big ol horse's head !
52:07 the cut to him getting put in an arm bar had me dying
And a nasty one at that
Ken really said, "I put him over" like this is fucking WWE hahaha. Bro's brain was fried by now lol
@@carter3369 yeah and pro wresting isnt scripted entertainment lol
My first ufc PPV that I ever ordered was UFC 40 and at that time Tito was the man! People were calling him the pound for pound best fighter at the time which sounds crazy now lol. And his walk out at ufc 40 to limp bizkits break stuff is still my favorite walkout ever. And he was a good coach. Man have times changed!
as someone who's just gotten into watching mma over the past year i think tito is the man and the memes don't take away whatsoever from this version of him imho
@kennghost As a long time fan, that's because you didn't witness his decline in real time. It's all available for you to watch at your leisure. Tito may have been the man, but it was for a very brief period in time. You also have to realize all of the memes about him are because of things he has actually said and/or done. It's all legit Tito.
@@kennghost.
@@levismith8423 he had the record for most consecutive title defenses before jon Jones and mighty mouse
@@Jasper-et6lf That's nice.
What was gold in TUF is that Ken is the only person on the face of the planet dumber than Tito
😂😂
Reach out and touch me tito
Perhaps 😅 you wouldn't say this to him in person though
@BeavisT-800 no shit, that's why we talk crazy on line
@@TJ22_83 LOL
Tito “life is like a game of CHEST”
Wow Tito was really a great coach and a compassionate guy. So much of the hate on him is internet BS
I miss this side of Tito. You can tell he generally cares about his team and coaching them
Dude that interpreter for Matt showed so much emotion cage side that was awesome to see 1:03:20 thanks again Larone best mma channel
he needs to shut the hell up spamming flying knee🤣
The greatest wordsmith of our time.
2:23:43 funniest part of this whole video😂 bro saw chuck and took a U turn
43:11 when the fighter stoppepd laughing cause he saw Tito being serious lmao
This just reminded me how much I love Tito. A great guy that gave us some great moments
He’s sounding like a violin with that cheese and wine
Tito is a great fucken coach! Knows fighting but overall knows fighters! 💯👊🏻💢
Bisping is a fkn legend. " Matt you broke his nose, ya did good" 😂😂😂
Paying for Fight Pass is checkers, watching Larone videos is chest.
💯
Chest?
*chess 🙄
@@JaredRodrigues-Morales 23:06
Tito definitely said chest 😂
Damn dude that sucks for Matt Hamill that they had to explain to him that he wasn’t going to be fighting Friday. Homie really just wanted to fight again
holy fuck Ken was a horrible Coach, his only advice for a whole fight was to throw a flying knee , he suggested it over 100 times in 3 mins
Ken was acting like he was controlling the fighter in a ufc video game
@@teddygramz2008knee knee why is my controller not working 😂
By ALL accounts ken shamrock is a horrible guy. I have heard stories of
1) he treats children fans badly
2) CRIPPLED opponents on purpose a la palhares
On the other hand FRANK shamrock is a good dude - ken and frank are adopted into a group home not biological brothers btw. Frank shanrock personally wrote letters to my friend who got off drugs. Frank sent him all sorts of signed memorabilia and encouragement - told know one - I only know because it was hung up in my friend’s house
Tito was at his most likable when he was a coach opposite ken shamrock, because he actually cared about his fighters and helped them greatly but ken only wanted to help himself
Anyone can look good next to Ken. He got owned by Chuck on tuf 11
Gotta love Tito ❤❤
This is the real Tito man I love Tito
This footage showed how much of a heart and mindset Tito has. He’s a real badass and one of the OG’s to do a takedown and smash you in with brutal ELBOW strikes.
"its like chest, we'll take take pawn out at a time until we're checkmate, and then we're done" hell yeah
I had no idea that Bisping was such a crybaby. "Uhh ortiz isn't giving me enough attention. Uuuh, He got an interpretor"
Bisping has always been an entitled brat.
He was terrified of fighting Matt that’s why he injured him, then when he knew he didn’t have to fight him he started being nice to him.
Bisping became well liked after he won the title form rockhold, but before that, he was a massive douchebag, who treated everyone terribly, maybe the dan handerson KO put a bit of humbling into him
He’s like a fine wine, he’s aged well 😂😭I used to despise him
Bisping was so hated back then, that DH BOMB really humbled him. After that KO he seemed to have changed and slowly became more likeable and respectful.
This might be the same channel but...I've already watched every TUF Season in chronological order.
10 to 15minute segments all put together very well so...when I saw this pop up I thought "I've Already Seen All Of These Before I Won't See Anything New"...well here I am over an hour in and I still haven't seen anything new.
But I just do not get bored of these things🤣🙌🏽
29:30 the fact titos calmness is what made ken get even more mad is so funny
Tito still one of my favorite fighters ....
And what a generous and great coach !!
I have never liked Tito until watching these shows! It's completely changed my opinion of him,,, he is a great coach , and a damn good person.
I can see why his fighters learn and gel. He has the right attitude.
tito was really good here. man good coach and stategic. shown as a dummy in interviews etc but he was a good coach here and seemed a lot more coherent as well and sharper. poor guy with the cte. very supportive - getting the interpreter is gold. tito really kept his cool as well. ken was out of control. supposed to not be a good trainer at all.
This was one of my favourite seasons of TV period. Tito as a coach was amazing, there was still a freshness to the show but it'd been established enough by then. Such a great season
Tito still the biggest middle weight that ever stepped in the octagon. I know this light heavyweight but back then I swear dude was the biggest middle weight you’d ever seen. What a time 😢
Matt Hamill is incredible for overcoming his disability in this kind of sport👀🙏
Man I remember watching this season. Ohhh man, this looks so old now.
Lol
What a great time to be alive when this shit hit spike TV back in high school it was the best
"Nobody in this sport acts!" - Randy Couture
and then came Colby...
Conor came before Colby.
Chael came before Conor.
For all the shit Tito's been getting .. he really was all in for his team.
TUF 3 was always one of my favourite seasons. It helped the world realise Tito was Mr Myagi and Shamrock was Sensei Kreese
God of CTE
he used to speak pretty well.. im starting to think cte might be real..
@@DrFurburgermight be real? 😂 Repeated hits to the head without a doubt cause short and long term effects. Especially when these fighters are taking extreme weight cuts to make their fight. They’re brain is more likely to rattle when hit.
@@DrFurburgerlmfao, dude, have u seen those football players brains after they died? Literally fucking carvings of brain raw ting away in the center due too constant head trauma, the rest is still fine and intact even after being extracted outa the skull
Tito was the best coach ever.
Pre-CTE Tito was great, now he's a great meme, somehow allowed into politics.
Also this was vintage TUF before it soured.
1:03:00 a whole round of Shamrock yelling "Knee!"
Respect too Tito a great fighter and brilliant coach💯
An honourable mention to Noah, who told Dana he couldn't eat or sleep despite having just woken up with a half eaten bowl of cereal in his hand 😂
That dude is unbelievable lol
@@mxtt3155 Legendary 😄
He did end up marrying the girl; he retired from MMA with a record of 4-5 😐
Tito was a real one he get an absolute bad wrap he’s a genuinely good dude and you can tell
Tuf was so good back then. Why cant it be this good anymore? Even with the past 2 seasons, fighters like McGregor vs Chandler, pena vs nunes. They dont focus on fighter dilemma/drama in the house. the coaches dont go at each other.
They need to go back to the good old days, unlimited alcohol and unstable people
It’s so nice to watch Dana enjoy his favorite part of the show, the coaches challenge. A day when the fighters get to kick back and relax, and all the pressure is on the coaches.
Larone you're the KIng for making all these vids! So sick. Thank you.
Outside of Michael Bispings biography spoiling this season, seeing Tito like this has definitely endeared him way more to me. I never disliked Tito even when he became a meme. He's a good dude underneath all the fight promotion nonsense.
Tito isn't a villain as much as a village idiot. Hes Lawnmower Man before the computer. He has a lot of heart but not so much brains. Im a fan. He's a legend in the sport whether we like it or not. Whether we laugh or not.
This brings me back to
Tito has always been one of my favorite fighters
That old spike tv logo. Man I miss these days
Thank you larone!!!!!!!!!! Best mma channel ever!!!!!
Dana - "Tito pulled out of the fight"
Chuck - I'm gonna go punch him."😂
Father time wasn't kind to Tito but as Mike Goldberg whould say, he truly is a legend of the UFC. He came time and time again and even on a 4 year losing streak he came back and got a shocking win against Bader as a serious underdog. Heart of a lion.
23:06 it’s like chest. We’ll talk pawn out at a time until we’re checkmate.
Legendary
If Tito only knew one day, Matt would beat them in MMA. He wouldn’t trained him so good lol 😂 cant believe Tito actually lost to Matt Hamill in the UFC.
Holy shit you're right! I completely forgot about that fight
"The first time that usually somebody gets their bell rung it's a little more devastating than the first one."
Tito Ortiz
Ty for putting these videos up this is great stuff
If the fighters listened to kens advice during the fights it would help him get a win lol
17:33 kens the kind of guy to figure out stairs as he goes
Ive heard a few times that renzo gracie jujitsu guys ard savages 😂😂
This video confirms the rumours
REACH OUT AND TOUCH ME TITO
When they say fighting is more mental than physical, its a true statement, Ken was concentrated more on Tito than fighting.....proof right there.
the cut of the french guy is gold
I'm only 43 years old; I'm an old mature. I mean I'm matured old that I mean very fast but at the same time my body hasn't matured great just because my father is really old; my father is 80 years old and my grandmother is 100 years old so my body is in great shape.
😂🧀🍷🎻
horrible pfp dude
I thought the crowd was so wrong with the ortiz shamrock fight. Ortiz could of killed ken if the ref did not step in. Ken was not even trying to defend. He was taking elbow after elbow and did not even try to stop one.
Shies the kind if stand up guy Brad Tavares is, to be on the opposite side and encouraging the guy not to quit....how it should be, to encourage anyone who is down,tobget uo and fight or to continue....not to give up.
Respect to TITO
young dana lookin so cute and innocent tf lol
Mark Hamill. From Star Wars to Joker to deaf in the UFC. GOAT
Randy couture the "natural " one of the greatest ever.
23:06
"This is like chest... We'll take a pond out at a time, untill we're checkmate"
Aren't you supposed to put the opponent into checkmate, Tito? Lol
Ken was lucky the ref stopped it
Shamrock really only cared about himself on this show, showing his own fights and body builder was hilarious
I forgot how much i enjoyed this series..an the respect that grew for Tito after this.. an seeing a young Matt Hamill.. lol.. the only man to have a W on Bones Jones! 😅 who would of thought !
@8:13 Ole Tito inspired Matt The Hammer Hamill to whoop Jon Jones elbow with his face
1:52:26 Tito is a good coach. Even the way he told him to please stand up, he didn't want him sitting down and continuing to be hard on himself.