This Dark vs MaxPax Finals is AMAZING! StarCraft 2

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  • čas přidán 6. 03. 2024
  • StarCraft 2 Tournament - Dark vs MaxPax - ESL SC2 Cup Finals - Protoss vs Zerg - Dark and Maxpax break out completely different styles in this Protoss vs Zerg rollercoaster finals!
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Komentáře • 152

  • @sergej06
    @sergej06 Před 3 měsíci +165

    "That which doesn't kill you leaves you in a fragile and potentially crippled state that makes you intensely vulnerable to being killed much more easily when ripped apart by zerglings" - an old saying

    • @nmgaro2156
      @nmgaro2156 Před 3 měsíci +7

      Last game could apply for match of the year(so far), and this easily could be a candidate for best quote of the year

    • @rcraces1
      @rcraces1 Před 3 měsíci +1

      😂😂😂

    • @SteelValyrian
      @SteelValyrian Před 3 měsíci +3

      It is known

    • @BigLeafyTree
      @BigLeafyTree Před 3 měsíci +5

      -Julius Caesar

    • @manhunter-hv6gm
      @manhunter-hv6gm Před 3 měsíci +2

      It's an old saying but it checks out😁

  • @CABALlc1
    @CABALlc1 Před 3 měsíci +38

    That hold by MaxPax in game 4 was just insane....

  • @mcmarkmarkson7115
    @mcmarkmarkson7115 Před 3 měsíci +51

    Man love to see protoss do well against such a strong zerg player. Great battles, could have easily gone either way as even small things made such a huge impact.

    • @villz1267
      @villz1267 Před 3 měsíci

      Maphackers can't play on LAN for a reason

    • @SteelValyrian
      @SteelValyrian Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@villz1267 Proof it

    • @villz1267
      @villz1267 Před 3 měsíci

      @@SteelValyrian Things you will never see : Maxpaxxx playing a game with a webcam on his setup so you can see his screens

    • @SteelValyrian
      @SteelValyrian Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@villz1267 Yes I know. Doesn't mean he's cheating.

    • @villz1267
      @villz1267 Před 3 měsíci

      @@SteelValyrian You are right, where there is smoke doesn't mean there is always fire, however majority of the time there is a direction correlation ....

  • @hivetech4903
    @hivetech4903 Před 3 měsíci +15

    15:42 MaxPax was shook... shoots his own shield battery 🌀💥😂

  • @JarvisValko
    @JarvisValko Před 3 měsíci +8

    AMAZING is pure understatement for this match. What a great series. What a great casting. Thank you Winter!

  • @WolfgangGaming-xq5rm
    @WolfgangGaming-xq5rm Před 3 měsíci +12

    I see Maxpax, I click. I see Hero, I cringe, but still probably click..

  • @Daniel-rd6st
    @Daniel-rd6st Před 3 měsíci +3

    18:20 That overcharge is really the MVP here, that Immortal just wont die 🙂

  • @screes620
    @screes620 Před 3 měsíci +8

    So glad to see high tier protoss finally using Motherships. The offensive recall is such a powerful tool.

    • @robert-asdf
      @robert-asdf Před 3 měsíci +1

      you mean it's actually good for something other than being yanked by vipers?! it can win protoss a final. we know what dark, serral, and richard bring but MAN is it a breathe of fresh air seeing protoss win ANY final!

    • @elerushielerushi9180
      @elerushielerushi9180 Před 3 měsíci

      It was always been a powerful tool even before patch 5.0.12. The previous patch size of Mass Recall and 200 energy for Double Mass Recall was very good. Sadly rarely anyone use it. I could be wrong though.

  • @Kesvalk
    @Kesvalk Před 3 měsíci +2

    Charlie was the real MVP, saw 3 minutes of play, knew exactly everything would play out and left so he could be his own man.

  • @curtisbrown2281
    @curtisbrown2281 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Wow Maxpax made protoss look insanely strong in game 5. Recall wizard.

    • @Ulti_H
      @Ulti_H Před 3 měsíci

      fr the recalls were fantastic

  • @MultiChrisjb
    @MultiChrisjb Před 3 měsíci +4

    1:00:18 "never send a zealot to do a stalkers job"

  • @at5598
    @at5598 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love to see the toss win. Crazy decisions and almost play style swap from both players

  • @christopherscott6383
    @christopherscott6383 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Oh....Snap!! Winter Casting SC2.. Here for it!

  • @ninjabreadman22
    @ninjabreadman22 Před 3 měsíci +25

    Every pro zerg's playstyle can be described as "Nah I'd win."

    • @adoi8467
      @adoi8467 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Through heaven and earth, he alone is the GOATED one

    • @yarikyaryi
      @yarikyaryi Před 3 měsíci +7

      Cause zerg is op race that has advantage at literally everything. Best scouting, earliest starting units, best economy, cheap upgrades, fastest maxing out, lurkers countring any ground army, corruptors countring any air army, even if you lose your limit you can max out it in literally seconds. No wonder there are so many zergs among top pro players.
      Bugs, roaches and dogs dominate humans and aliens, nice design. Big fly can pull mothership with its tongue, cool.😂😂😂

    • @ninjabreadman22
      @ninjabreadman22 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@yarikyaryi Glad someone else agrees Zerg are imbalanced. Terran and Protoss need some buffs to deal with the insane zerg scouting and mobility.

    • @cavemantero
      @cavemantero Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@ninjabreadman22 they just nerfed tvz and tvp and buffed zerg again...we know who is running the show and has been for years

    • @ironmonkey1512
      @ironmonkey1512 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@yarikyaryiZerg is pretty weak in the air

  • @taesonslane2513
    @taesonslane2513 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks for the cast WinterStarcraft

  • @cathulionetharn5139
    @cathulionetharn5139 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Thank You
    Om nom nom

  • @diabolo_twitch8920
    @diabolo_twitch8920 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I just LOVE the memes shown between the games 🤩

  • @colinfraser7150
    @colinfraser7150 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I love the two drone joke has kept going.

  • @Mosquitor69
    @Mosquitor69 Před 3 měsíci

    Thank You. Love your style. Now I'll go enjoy this match.

  • @grahamgaming3
    @grahamgaming3 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Dude maxpax was clearing trying to make dark confident the first two games just so just to grow his actual style off.

  • @pleasespammesomemore4436
    @pleasespammesomemore4436 Před 3 měsíci +2

    what a great series. action packed right up till the end. couldve gone either way too.

  • @ThueJanusKristensen
    @ThueJanusKristensen Před 3 měsíci +21

    "There is like a 50-50 shot this is game of the year - at least for this week"
    LOL - dig at Lowko? :)

    • @kathorsees
      @kathorsees Před 3 měsíci +2

      Winter does the same, he has a whole playlist for "games of the year". I think it's just a necessary evil, a clickbait sacrifice to our sombre algorithmic overlords.

  • @dragoscc1163
    @dragoscc1163 Před 3 měsíci +1

    That was beautiful !

  • @Mikeypequeno
    @Mikeypequeno Před 3 měsíci +1

    great games and great commentary as always!

  • @Ulti_H
    @Ulti_H Před 3 měsíci +6

    SIR RICHARD THE FLOCK MANAGER 🙏🙏🙏

  • @binslagala
    @binslagala Před 3 měsíci

    A conspicuously good video!

  • @lightdx7008
    @lightdx7008 Před 3 měsíci +1

    "There is like a 50-50 shot this is game of the year... at least for this week" xDD

  • @warlocksnevereverdie
    @warlocksnevereverdie Před 3 měsíci

    Man this series was bonkers

  • @Daniel-rd6st
    @Daniel-rd6st Před 3 měsíci +1

    I love how one HERO Zealot almost decided the whole series 😄

    • @Daniel-yy3ty
      @Daniel-yy3ty Před 3 měsíci +1

      and just after he praised him for using a stalker in his wall 🤣

  • @xSubotaix
    @xSubotaix Před 3 měsíci

    they should play all 3 races, best of 5

  • @zachlong5427
    @zachlong5427 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Hello all!
    So, I'm not even a month into watching Starcraft casts, and one of the things that I keep finding discussed about Protoss is the Warpgate/Gateway distinction. Why aren't Gateways used? And, why are the two things so...controversial, it seems, about the meta around Protoss. It is build speed, resources, or some kind of Jank that happens at different levels of play?
    RSVP!

    • @ChingooOK
      @ChingooOK Před 3 měsíci +5

      warpgates let you remax your units quicker, at any location where you have power field. this gives you more flexibility to respond to or launch counterattacks after a big engagement/skirmish.
      uThermal has a series on trying to get to grandmasters with gateway though, its pretty entertaining/insightful

    • @zachlong5427
      @zachlong5427 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Okay. Is it like a "sidegrade" in intent but is de facto an "upgrade"? Does it cost more resource to warp units compared to normal production

    • @Forgotyournapkins
      @Forgotyournapkins Před 3 měsíci

      It’s a cheap upgrade that you always get as Protoss early on in the game (some rare build orders you might not, typically air). Really the only purpose of Gateways is to balance the beginning of games where insta warpgate would create too much of an advantage in the under 2:00 min-ish portion of the game

    • @SteelValyrian
      @SteelValyrian Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@zachlong5427 Being able to warp in units on the fly wherever you have pylon power is huuuuge. For a while it was all Protoss had almost, and they are still called a "gimmicky" race. Often times it is good strategy to not max out your whole supply- keep it around 170 or so and you can warp in very deadly attacks from unexpected flanks and onto vulnerable bases. Even the main base can be a flank. Maxpax almost lost the last game with a bad flank into the main using his mothership. There are many examples to see of him using his prism in general of course for awesome counters. Just watch the where/when he attacks. The game has changed a lot over the years, Toss being able to warp in and recall has been refined over years of balance and players discovering the mechanic's depth.
      You can use standard gateways. They are fine and reliable production, just ask the Terran and Florencio =P

    • @bigprank3964
      @bigprank3964 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@zachlong5427 Warpgate is an upgrade and not a sidegrade. Warpgates are considered to be better than Gateways, always, in every situation. It does cost the same amount of resources to warp in units with Warpgates and to produce them normally in Gateways

  • @Levm17
    @Levm17 Před 3 měsíci

    Anyone else noticed maxpax reorder the damaged oracle on the outside when confronting the enemy bases once more? Fantastic

    • @cosmostumpf4135
      @cosmostumpf4135 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Dark targeted the damaged one with the spore anyway- those tiniest of things in early game are what makes these players the top of the top.

  • @ProgramasVBnet
    @ProgramasVBnet Před 3 měsíci

    Que gran partida, como ha remontado super MaxPax. Saludetes

  • @JG-ti7id
    @JG-ti7id Před 3 měsíci +1

    liking and subscribing IS still free for now... that last game was WOW! winter, asalwaystyforyourhardworkanddedication!!! glhf fam

  • @tamanousJP
    @tamanousJP Před 3 měsíci +2

    Cast Dark vs Stats from GSL next!!!

  • @jeronimosuarez7957
    @jeronimosuarez7957 Před 3 měsíci

    3:31 intensely vulnerable 😂😂

  • @JeanLucPicard85
    @JeanLucPicard85 Před 3 měsíci

    So nice to see good mothership use.

  • @ManDuderGuy
    @ManDuderGuy Před 3 měsíci +1

    MOST PROFESSIONAL

  • @danielhearndon1908
    @danielhearndon1908 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great job by MaxPax. He massively outplayed Dark in the final match and still barely won. Look at his army comp vs Dark's Ling, Hydra, Lurker.

  • @TheJohtaja
    @TheJohtaja Před 3 měsíci

    9:16 After win you gotta add terstarcraft though! Doesn't work otherwise.

  • @ArmstrongAlley
    @ArmstrongAlley Před 3 měsíci +2

    If YOU put that on a mug I'll buy it

    • @fr3lance91
      @fr3lance91 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Gonna be a big mug if you want it legible. 😅

  • @Minstrel1
    @Minstrel1 Před 3 měsíci

    "Hold the line ladies!"

  • @IsThisHandleTaken
    @IsThisHandleTaken Před 3 měsíci

    Love to see a Protoss win. Still love Dark, his playstyle is super entertaining and he's creative af. But Protoss just seems so disadvantaged right now, I gotta cheer for the underdog

  • @lukebracken
    @lukebracken Před 3 měsíci

    are you switching to storm gate or one of the newer RTS games? not pressuring just wondering what the long-term plans are, if there are any. no biggie.
    good luck.

  • @Jeed92
    @Jeed92 Před 3 měsíci

    8:50 xDDDD

  • @benismann
    @benismann Před 3 měsíci

    11:40
    Before this point i doubted if the workers lost popup (on the left) didnt work, since so many adepts tried to harass them, but nope, it works. Dark just doesnt lose drones

  • @hall799
    @hall799 Před 3 měsíci

    @24:50 if he would have yelled "MY LARVA!!!!" or something like that.

  • @freshsmilely
    @freshsmilely Před 3 měsíci

    dark logic: "they cant kill drones if you dont have any drones"

  • @cjmahar7595
    @cjmahar7595 Před 3 měsíci +1

    How long did it take you to come up with today transition to likes and subscribes? so clever!

  • @AZ3rgling
    @AZ3rgling Před 3 měsíci

    Man im gonna miss watching Dark play

  • @danywd40
    @danywd40 Před 3 měsíci

    What a game. By the way, a noob question. Zergs got nidus, protos got mother ship recall and base recall besides the gateways and war prism. Terrans have mules and BC tactical jump?

  • @portee9113
    @portee9113 Před 3 měsíci

    Wow Dark is ruthless. The man is a killer.

    • @tertozer3543
      @tertozer3543 Před 3 měsíci

      Zerg is just omega giga broken since HotS. Surely he is an insane player, but so is MaxPax.

  • @adoi8467
    @adoi8467 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Are you a pro player because you are the GOAT, or are you the GOAT because you are a pro player?

  • @JM-rl6bq
    @JM-rl6bq Před 3 měsíci

    It would be cool if Maxpax played in live tohrnaments like to see him at Katowice or sometbing.

  • @neojack333
    @neojack333 Před 3 měsíci

    winning with 0 workers left ? wow that last game was something !

  • @YugoAfluana
    @YugoAfluana Před 3 měsíci

    I believe Dark can be as effecient and effective Serral, but he choose Violent.

  • @bluelemon2805
    @bluelemon2805 Před 3 měsíci +1

    GO MAXPAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @tilmanvogel2387
    @tilmanvogel2387 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Epic

  • @Middieno22
    @Middieno22 Před 3 měsíci

    I've known about winterstarcraft for years, but I just started watching him alot recently. I think artosis + tasteless together cant be beat, but I think winter is better than either of them individually, possibly the best solo caster in the genre. My two cents.

  • @Matthew-cc4xt
    @Matthew-cc4xt Před 3 měsíci +2

    Watched Dark lose 2 series in a row. Not what I came here for.

  • @user-vh9rk8xw1i
    @user-vh9rk8xw1i Před 3 měsíci +1

    Like and comment before watching...i trust you Winter!

  • @gregoryhilton5315
    @gregoryhilton5315 Před 3 měsíci

    this is just dark vs dark on a different monitor isn't it

  • @JamesLSY
    @JamesLSY Před 3 měsíci

    Have not seen Protoss win comfortably ever. Is the balance that bad?

  • @TowerSavant
    @TowerSavant Před 3 měsíci

    In a week. Nice.

  • @matrion15
    @matrion15 Před 3 měsíci

    Dark can go ... himself with his disrespectful "g"s after every loss

  • @StarryTemplar
    @StarryTemplar Před 3 měsíci

    whos Idea to give Lurker Huge AOE damage and Huge Range ?? LOL

  • @jakekielty1
    @jakekielty1 Před 3 měsíci

    Miss this game. Wow some people are AI when it comes to combat. Awesome that the computer is the inferior being

  • @freddyorellana2058
    @freddyorellana2058 Před 3 měsíci

    En otra pongan a Serral

  • @joshgulrud5635
    @joshgulrud5635 Před 3 měsíci

    Winter you gotta give us a Queen tier list for April 1(?). You gotta. Brenda Karen Susan ... ?????

  • @Manwu5
    @Manwu5 Před 3 měsíci

    Amazing games....Nothing better than a roasted zerg.

  • @soju69jinro
    @soju69jinro Před 3 měsíci

    finally a finals without Serral, now it's worth watching.

  • @ursidae1651
    @ursidae1651 Před 3 měsíci

    I wonder why players don't use unit skins in tournaments.. is it prohabited? Or do they just not want to play with them? It'd make the games just a little bit more interesting...

  • @paulhamtorlia3039
    @paulhamtorlia3039 Před 3 měsíci

    Europe's Top Protoss vs Korea's Top Zerg

  • @Avsoy
    @Avsoy Před 3 měsíci +3

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    • @marinav3905
      @marinav3905 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Bob the Chargelot, is that you?

  • @Gogohobbytv
    @Gogohobbytv Před 3 měsíci

    Amazing series. Damn, I hate Swarm Hosts so much. Disgustingly free kills units.

  • @Jorg05111980
    @Jorg05111980 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks, but this is too zoomed in for my liking...

  • @mauromattei9779
    @mauromattei9779 Před 3 měsíci

    Really? :)

  • @metalevel7739
    @metalevel7739 Před 3 měsíci

    protoss wins, this is my tarot card reading for whether or not it will be a good day

  • @Cookie0fPower
    @Cookie0fPower Před 3 měsíci

    Comment

  • @matiastikvic7989
    @matiastikvic7989 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I swear to god
    You we're annoying me a Lot when i started to watch your Videos, but you have grown on me so much that i Like every single Video before you "beg" for Likes

  • @mrgotohell111111
    @mrgotohell111111 Před 3 měsíci

    gang

  • @jayswizzle57
    @jayswizzle57 Před 3 měsíci +17

    70 likes on this comment and I’ll comment on another video… and I’ll probably do it anyways. JIMMY!!!

  • @kevincline2589
    @kevincline2589 Před 3 měsíci

    Whyyyyyy did you let me see MaxPax's picture? Hadn't seen it before and always imagined a little nerd like Clem. So not as big a fan anymore.

  • @gewinnste
    @gewinnste Před 3 měsíci

    Dark's single-g on game 4 and 5. Omg what a c-word. The loss was completely his fault, MaxPax pulled off an impossible hold in game 4 and just outplayed him in game 5.

  • @geoffrichardson2728
    @geoffrichardson2728 Před 3 měsíci

    I find as soon as I like and subscribe....I totally lose interest in the starcraft content.
    I'm just watching to help winter meet his daily increasing like quota now.

  • @deeepinsomnia
    @deeepinsomnia Před 3 měsíci

    Ultras still bad

  • @craigbs3
    @craigbs3 Před 3 měsíci

    Dark is a gold digger 😂😂😂😂

  • @mathiahjaquish8564
    @mathiahjaquish8564 Před 2 měsíci

    I appreciate your attempts. These are great games. But you sir are not a caster.

  • @sir2854
    @sir2854 Před 2 měsíci

    MUUUHAHAHAHA.....all those worthless zerg players who depended on the imbalances are now helpless.

  • @phantomxofxwarx9996
    @phantomxofxwarx9996 Před 2 měsíci

    You ever learn to be quiet? Like you have the exact same intro speech all the time. Change it up

  • @Clickmoi
    @Clickmoi Před 3 měsíci

    " Starcraft players looking at any other games on the planet " meme...
    Me : then AoE2:DE players must be looking them from the clouds with the gods ^^.