JCB Teleskid or John Deere 270?
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2019
- Which one? 2019 JCB Teleskid or a 2003 John Deere 270? Obviously comparing these two isn't really fair with 16 more years of innovation being on JBS's side. So with that in mind this look into the differences between the two machines is purely on function and capability.
Special thanks to JCB & Torgersons for this opportunity to run this Teleskid.
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The telescoping arm is one of those things you didn't know you needed but once you have it you never want to give it up
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I bet I have the room in our haybarn but just don't have the lift I can only stack 4 bales high and the 4 th bale is eased up there barely but I lift heavy items so I just don't know how it would measure to that my Kubota track machine is always loaded heavy on hills and uneven ground it gets off balance from time to time if you know what your doing you can just keep going and ease it back down without ever checking up
Nailed it
I noticed the same
They dont offer the telescoping arm here in Australia as yet so our machine does not have it but would be a great asset i think
Went to my local JCB Dealer today to arrange a demo of the Teleskid because of your videos of the machine. The room in the cab and cad access is second to none. My brother who is quite large (6'8" 350lbs) can actually get in and out of the cab, which he cannot fit in any other Skidsteer he tried.
That's more like mammoth, way way past large haha
JCB are good because they’ve had years of experience in the telehandeler industry which a lot of the designs are transferable
I love my Welker farm videos and my coffee in the morning, thanks to all your family effort
👍 Gregory
I do love how you mentioned some of the things that you need to think about when running the JCB, could be considered drawbacks, or just unavoidable consequences of going with that design!! its very helpful to know in advance what your gonna need to think about
As an employee of JCB in the UK it’s great to hear such positive feedback about Teleskid. I’ve only recently discovered your channel after being a fan of How Farms Work for a while and set Ryan up with the demo Teleskid machine and I’m now loving your videos too. Especially the really big machines your run. Such a contrast to UK farming.
Do you hear complains about the blocking sight? Is a mirror required in UK?
Gerrit Stok Hi Gerrit. I have heard it mentioned a few times and it’s been fed back to the product teams for investigation. The other improvement would be to add a grill to the right side window to allow easier communication with anyone working alongside the machine. Obviously can’t be a window to avoid getting arms trapped by the boom.
It's an easy fix, regarding visibility- just mount LCD on that boom, and camera on other side of it. It should work perfectly!
just commented above on this thought :)
Lol
Lol
I'm guessing with the proliferation of 360* cameras on automobiles, your exact remedy will soon be a "standard" on these machines.
I was going to say the exact same thing. Surprised JCB missed this. For me it would be a safety issue.
When I was shopping for a skid loader, I was focused on Bobcat, back in my day. I tried the 743, but it really felt lacking and I didn't like that it was all it could do to load a 15 yd. dump truck. I then tried the 7753 and it was night and day for me. High lift arms made side-loading the large trucks a lot easier and it had a wider stance. I had a 72" bucket with removable tooth bar, forks and a landscaper attachment. That there was an amazing implement! This was back in the early 90s and I bought the 7753, used, with 1400 hours on it and immediately put new tires on it and then had them solid rubber filled. At $100 per tire, that was a major money saver when working around thorny trees or demolition duty on jobsites. I would get my job done and come away from the site with my tires looking like a porcupine - but obviously NO flats! It's no fun having a flat and paying for a service truck and the down time. Rubber-filled was definitely the way to go for me.
We have a 743 kitty here that we use fairly regularly.. it's a clapped out pile of crap now but it's still working!!!
Paid for equipment is tough to beat. I think you made a great review and the correct business decision... Tough as it was.
I've been a huge fan of JCB products. That boom looks the same as the one they use on the Teletruck.
I currently drive a JCB 540-170 and love it.
then you've never had to fix it there junk and the idiots at JCB dont even know half the machiness and parts that go on it
The jcb backhoe I ran was a gutless turd compared to cat &case
That left armrest has two positions for the little gas strut. Yours is in the shorter one. If you change it, the arm will swing up until the joystick his the back window. 4 Phillips screws and a 13mm open-end wrench will do it.
i have a 2011 bobcat s160. its simple but a workhorse. you see bobcat about 10 to 1 over other brands on construction sites around here.
That JCB is a real leap in engineering and design! Thanks.
Great to see one of the UK's finest companies represented all the way over there in Montana. Shame you didn't keep it, but I too have bills to pay. Luckily they are a heck of a lot smaller than yours!
Here in the UK we do make some good stuff
We are running a Bobcat T880, and we love it we had to get it in a hurry because we were cleaning up from a storm, and we bought it and had it working in 3 days. We love it. I love the vids keep it up
This is the most indepth and unbiased comparisson I have ever seen. Thank you.
Just picked up a Kubota SVL90-2 on tracks after my Bobcat 873 on tires wasn’t getting things done around the farm in the mud during spring and fall land improvements.
Doesn't sound like too bad of a machine.😉
Before you buy something, you owe it to yourself to demo a tracked machine..... I love tracks. Now, I'm not saying tracks are for you, but I'd definitely check it out, before I dropped that kinda cash....
Great video though. Very fair analysis...
Great reminder for everyone, too, in all situations... If you are on foot, in an area where machines are running around, keep your head on a swivel, and stay alert.... Expect the unexpected. The operator, is going to be thinking real hard about their load, and where they are going... It's just human nature... Sure, they are supposed to be watching, but hey... Don't be wandering that area on foot looking at your phone... Pay attention....
Patrick Morrissey True I would rather have a tracked machine any day!
I've ran a Deere, Bobcat and a tracked Cat, and the Deere is noticeably louder than the Bobcats. The Bobcat A300 I ran was two seed, but it could switch steering modes. It could skid steer or four wheel steer which kept you from tearing up lawns or scuffing up fancy concrete sidewalks. Of the three the Bobcat was so much nicer and while the Cat was solid, it was a single speed and slower than any of the others even if they were in slow speed.
The thing that makes them so pricey is they can replace a dozen or more dedicated machines for small jobs. They pretty much make an attachment to do nearly anything. The company building our new shop used a big tracked Bobcat with a road grader attachment and graded the gravel inside the building's foundation after the steel supports and roof had gone up. That zero turn radius just makes them so much better in confined spaces.
Great video, I always look forward to Wednesday and Saturday for videos. Nice fair comparison of the two machines. Good job on firing Leg Arms! Can't believe you're already over 220k subs, maybe 300k for Christmas! God Bless!
Great review. I learned a lot. THANKS!
A lot of positive remarks from folks that have purchased the JCB, good machines but like you said these type of machines are very expensive $$$$$
I was gonna say for that style of Cab I wanna say Volvo started using those as well I think a little while back, you might be able to find some of those maybe cheaper used, but I don't think there's anything else with the extendable boom
A well rounded, frank and serious assessment between the two units.
Great video, good idea on putting a poll up to get different opinions..
Love my ASV RC-50 but when it's time to upgrade the teleskid will be top of the list.
Hey Leg Arms, if you are tired of getting fierd you can come to our farm here in Sweden and work for us insted!
Don't temped him! Otherwise we'll have to start paying him😁
@@RobertWelkerFarmerBob We seem to get a high yield this year so we can pay him a lot, we are jus't looking fore a good welder😁😁😁
Can you write me if you want worker in farm ? alcatelsasa@gmail.com
Hey im from finland
Isä rikko startin jontikasta valtra power!
We have a 260t I use for feeding cow large round bales and for snow clearing, I used to be a bobcat fan but after using the jcb I’ve switched all the way to jcb I love that machine.
I’ve ran a bobcat s770 i love the iso controls on it and love how the drive and steering is with my left hand and everything else is with my right it makes a difference as an operator when you have to be technical with your machine wish I had the chance to operate a jcb it wouldn’t be nice for snow plowing
That's a nice JCB, tractor. I can understand there are way more priorities before buying this. Keep up the great videos Nick.
I didn't see one jcb tractor in this entire video, am I missing something? I saw a well built Deere skid steer and a jcb teleskid.
that is a very fair point, you always need to have your priorities straight with purchasing on a farm, and not being able to get everything you want is part of adulting, and yes, it does suck
@@Alejandro-vb2fx Really?? You wasted your time with that? OK then a JCB Machine, sorry I didnt give it the technical name of teleskid. GOODNESS! No wonder there are so many slip and fall lawyers, to handle people like you.
Mount a small screen on the right A-pillar and camera on the roof facing the same angle. That way you can see to the right even with the boom raised.
I have an old JCB 535 farm special telehandler, not as compact as the new tele skid steer, doesn't turn on a button, but shortest wheelbase on a full size telehandler available, pick up hitch and auxiliaries. No where near as fancy as the new fly by wire machines, but your comment regarding the old skid steer having direct link between handle and hydraulic valve resonates. You do get better "feel" of how the hydraulics behave. Great channel, informative and factual, no fluffy stuff 👍
Would love to have a skid steer, but we just don't have enough use for one. We have a 5085E with pallet forks we use to pick up pallets. Every couple weeks we bring in a ton of cattle feed and have no problem picking it up. It is a two person job though, because the visibility is not very good on the loader. The only piece of construction equipment on our farm is a John Deere 17G excavator. We use it for digging trenches, ditches, leveling ground, putting in culverts. Man it is a great machine.
The side door is amazing. I hate crawling into the cab from the loader. It's annoying if you're doing anything other than plain excavating like land scaping .
We've got a John Deere 328d that is awesome I have no complaints other that when it is in the field picking up large square bales the air conditioning tends to make it overheat
They should pivot the left joystick console with the door.
You would have way more room to get in,and less parts to move to go in and out.
It's drive by wire,so it's relatively easy to do.
Robert, thanks for the reply. I don't use Discord at the present time, but I did find an answer to my issue over on the Steam/Farm Sim 19 forum.
Gehl rt175 is so helpful, we do a lot of hay and have a lot of cattle, it’s good for about everything thing we do
The only problem with the JCB (and i know this for a fact, having seen ours nearly tip over a few weeks ago) is that despite their best efforts (there's some really clever engineering in that unit) it's skewed towards the arm side, in terms of weight or better said, balance. Makes our operator a bit nervous "walking" edges or moving stuff on inclined terrain.
We're prolly going to add a few weights on the other side.
Buy him some tacos.. operator is the counter weight
We run a 326D Deere. It has been a very good machine for us. The worst problem we have had is the front quick tach plate was too light and bent which also took the electric actuator out too. $3000 later it was fixed.
I've never worked one of these, but it sure looks impressive. Like that you show the pluses and minuses of both, better than those new car comparing shows. Like to that you also admit to any mistakes you made working on these. Keep it real.
we have had a kubota svl 75 for 4 years it has about 2000 hours on it. no complaints or promblems with it.
I like the the Kubotas still use full hydraulic controls. I've never used a machine with fly by wire hydraulic controls, but nearly everyone I talk to who has mentions that it takes a long time to get used to it and is never as precise.
it might not be as precise but kubota will last longer than most machines and is more practical when being worked on.
The Teleskid is amazing.
Just got my first skid steer last year. It was a John Deere 125. With a continental 4 cylinder gas engine. Works great. Love it. Can use one hand to run and drive it.
Great video! Excellent editing, music great. Lots of work involved in making this, but viewer friendly!
Love your videos and love your map on farming simulator 19
A small monitor with side mounted camera that comes on automatically when the boom is obstructing the view would solve that problem.
Thank you, I am convinced, I have been going back and forth on what to buy.
RIP Teleskid! Loved seeing it. Its almost like when the 2588s went it felt like something that was part of the farm was lost
The videos are fire man keep up the good work
If I owned the JCB Teleskid i would install a camera on the boom for visibility.
Yeah on ours we have have a camera mounted on the back of the boom and a screen inside but our camera swivels so it points in pretty much the same spot at all times. It just makes everything safer and easier
When that JCB goes back, we shall miss it, loved watching it work
We will too 😢
You're right Nick, all about priorities. Hoping grain bins and a giant cold storage building is your next thing to get done. Be nice to see some of those nice machines sit out of the elements.
Checked prices, he wasent kidding when he said it was a expensive machine
Ya like only 60-90k
Not a horrible price compared to most skidsteers now days.
You can almost buy a real telehandler for 90k
boer brabant and a big skidsteer will be 90000 to 115000
Comparing these two units is like comparing apples to hand grenades. The only bad thing about the JCB is that it cost an arm and a leg.
Or it cost some leg arms
These 20 min + long videos are damn fine keep it up
That is a cool machine. A teleskid will be first on my list when I look at getting one. Thanks to JCB & Torgersons.
Sounds like a build vid coming for the deere? Make that old machine mint.
Cheap reversing camera set might help that blind spot if you needed?
Yeah the same type of wide angle wireless camera you'd put on the end of a combine or grain cart auger and just mount it to the side of the boom. Thats a pretty awesome idea.
Nice job giving your analysis on the new machine...
Good walk thru of the new JCB. You answered a few questions I had, thx!
2019 JCB has my vote, with regards to visibility out the right hand side, in reality you should not be driving around with the forks/bucket up in the air it needs to be like an inch or two off the ground then the boom won't be blocking the right hand side vision. At the start it seemed to me your lip movement to your words seems off? This video came up while I was playing Welker Farms map on FS19 :)
I see you can't put over the tire tracks on the JCB either. I like the OtTT, best of both worlds.
Lunch is always great when I get to watch a Holywood Video!! Nice honest review.
Love the honest comparison. Non-biased feedback is worth so much.
Teleskid has so much more operator comfort visability and reach capacity.. I'm a lifetime John Deere Guy and JD Skid steer is worth more than you paid for it.
I would keep both..
Jcb man. So much easier to see escpecialy when your using an auger to punch post holes all day
Fly by wire is just something you have to get used too. We have a 310J and we sold an old 555D and got a 14CX super and it had fly by wire and the problem is you can’t feel the hydros so sometimes in situations it’s hard to tell what’s going on and it’s really sensitive in a bad way and it can get out of control pretty quick. But the joystick control is pretty comfortable and nifty. That teleskid is a super cool machine
Running a CAT 272D love it
Controls very smooth!
“Once you go CAT you NEVER go back”
Cheers from BC Canada 🇨🇦
BTW watch every video of yours ,
Always look forward to next releases :)
I own a CAT 252B2 skid, heat and A/C, turbo, 2 spd. NICE ride.
We just run John John Deere tractors that's all we're on we only use a bale spear
As a Brit, I would love a JCB teleskid, But I have been a Mustang 2044&44 pilot for twenty years, Its got American muscle and never let me down.
Very nice review on the skidsteers .Unless a person has spent a lot of time around farm/construction equipment they wouldn't know about all of the little quirks these machines have inherently.God Bless!!
Nice video and i play the welker farms map on fs 19 on the Xbox one
gaming nub me to
I'm not sure why but I play on xbox and when I go to the modhub the Map isnt there yet for me
Superliner 101 update ur game man or else ur fs is broken idk I don’t play fs I haven’t played since 15 cause I’m 17 and I work on are farm but I know a few tips and tricks
@@eoinreilly083 thanks ill try that
Superliner 101 no problem little man
There are issues with the jcb/ Volvo 1 arm skids with eating arm bushings and pins as the 1 boom isn’t as stable and walks its self out
Huge disadvantage
Good honest review im glad u said the good and bad of both machines
Love the videos keep up the great work! love that skidsteer
Do not fire your brother and dad because work needs to get done and you are fulltime filmcrew😉 PS are you still gonna test livestream before harvest?
He already mentioned the ladies are to drive the combines!!
He probably will.
Do you remember John Deere and we used bucket more than we do the Bale spear
Another one worth looking at all though not a skid steer is the jcb teletruck tlt range.
The TLT30D 4x4 is a compact little unit. Although more industrial biased rather than construction/agricultural its surprising how far the little bugger goes off road.
I ran a Bobcat for a few years and I must say that side entry of the JCB rules as I've had too many slips getting in and out of the Bobcat with snow covered booms and buckets. The telescoping boom would be a bonus!
I wudn't be brave enough to fire Leg-Arms. His arms wud have an intimidating effect on me...😂
wouldn't and would've buddy
@@jorgehim7409 Right. But it's not like I wud/would be writing a formal letter here...;)
He would have put you in a mud hole lol
Hi I’ve been playing walker farms map sense it came out
I spent 49 hr stright
@@ryanjohnson4558 Wow 49 hrs. That must be fun. Almost persuade me to take a look. In winter perhaps.
@@ryanjohnson4558 No life, no job, no girl and probably living at your mom's still. I'd never spend that much time on a game, but then again I'm always in the field 👀
Good review! Thanks for sharing!
Another fantastic vid nick. I totally believe what you said about the two skids and their pros and cons because I think you’re an incredibly honest and loyal person, an example of which is you’re long term relationship with you’re local equipment dealer whose name I won’t attempt to pronounce so as not to offend, and helping out neighbors when they need it, or just inspiring and teaching people about what our farmers really do,Bottom line is we need people like you and you’re family who set a fine example for people to follow, to treat others with respect and kindness. And loyalty. Sorry for the sappy ness but I just had to say what was on my mind. 🤘🇺🇸👊
We are humbled with the attention we're receiving. Thanks for the kudos 👍
Great video and teleskid for the win 100%
Nick… I’m running the front entry double arm chair with the rollabout Ottoman… Just so you know…
Great video, Nick. We have been with Bobcat for 35 years, and love them. I have run a few different New Hollands as well over the years. The Teleskid is an awesome machine for sure, but way out of reach for us as well.
All of our machines are older models, and like your JD, I do like the feel of mechanical controls. The reliability that a mechanical machine comes with too is a real perk in my opinion. I know that the old machines are not maybe as safe as the newer ones, but the best piece of safety equipment on the farm is the piece that is between your ears. Cheers - God Bless!!
There's a hammer to break the right side or front window.
We have one of the best skid steer brands out there and that’s a bobcat. It’s aT595, great unit around the farm, and it’s really fun to use
always drive with load or no load, with the boom DOWN for maximum vicibilety. i can't understand farmers that drive tractors with the front loader hig in the air. its dumb
Because farms aren't nice and flat like warehouses or paved yards. The first time you slap the forks down into the ground or grab a forgotten about post stump you'll understand.
Cat 299d2 Xhp is what I’m running
Keep it
Richard Tickle I will it’s a great machine to run
@@niickogrant2375 Yes they are I love them. Best A/C I've felt in a skid steer.
We are currently running a 2018 Bobcat S650 with foot controls. We absolutely love this machine except one thing, the door to get in and out. You either have to have the bucket all the way down or at least above the cab to be able to open the door.
1:45 bought a teleskid lol guess the demo was eye opening.. Good video always look forward to them
Not to be apart of the H&S brigade :P But... do be careful walking under those Skid steer booms, there was a sad case in Scotland not too long ago, of a Recycling worker crushed to death when the hydraulics failed and the bucket and boom hit him, 38 years old with two kids and a wife #safetyfirst
So sad 😔 that is tragic!
That’s why modern machines have a boom strut to catch the boom if something happens with the hydraulics the boom strut will prevent the boom from the crushing the operator. If the boom strut if damaged it can be replaced your life can’t. #safetyfirst
quick question. eney one play welkers farm on farming simulator 19
Yeah it’s a good map but if you play it on farm manager and start from scratch you can’t place anything where the buildings are supposed to go
Me, but not very often because i have a bad PC. With mods it runs at 11 FPS
Our farm we run a Bobcat S510 763, and a Gehl 3510. We use smaller machines because we have a lot of small buildings we need to get into. I would seriously consider a JCB because of what you guys and Kuester's been doing with the machines.
Thank you another very informative video. Keep up the great work. Love the JCB but just not in the budget.
JCB might want to put a proximity sensor on telescoping arm.
Have you thought about trying a newer bobcat? The specs are very similar to the teleskid.
Layton Anderson, they are not very reliable. I would get an older bobcat skid loader.
@@auston_grisham7840 I've had mine for over 3 years and have had 0 problems what so ever so maybe I'm just lucky or they are reliable after all.
@@laytonanderson8224 Or you use it for light work or once a week lol
Richard Tickle we own 2400 head of cows😂
@@laytonanderson8224 Do you? I'm sure you do bud and I own a 80,000 acre farm lol
I agree when it comes down to Finessin and the Machine being responsive nothing beats the old ones
*Hello Welker Farm* In my country it's harvest I was searching for a harvest video on your channel. You have beautyfull and hudge dream farm. We are so tiny comparate as you. Nice stuff!
*Greetings from french farmers in France -Europe*