What Happened to the "Great Gatsby" Mansion? (Harbor Hill)

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  • Sitting on one square mile of land in Long Island, NY, the 80,000 square foot mansion known as Harbor Hill once hosted renowned author F. Scott Fitzgerald as a guest. He drew inspiration from Clarence Mackay's lifestyle when writing The Great Gatsby. Explore the opulent 1902 estate in this short video.
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Komentáře • 674

  • @chrisallen7911
    @chrisallen7911 Před 2 lety +1281

    The sheer waste and destruction of such treasures is unforgivable. The house could have been saved. McKim Meade and White built buildings to last centuries.

    • @653j521
      @653j521 Před 2 lety +32

      What about the sheer waste of the heedlessness and destruction by the selfish owners?

    • @kenw4930
      @kenw4930 Před 2 lety +26

      He paid hundreds of people crumbs to maintain his gilded castle!! Where’s his medal……

    • @nomadbrad6391
      @nomadbrad6391 Před 2 lety +60

      CRAZY that such a magificent property was abandoned LESS than 42 years after it was built.

    • @danasandoval624
      @danasandoval624 Před 2 lety +33

      I agree!! We might not think he treated his workers well but properties like these were treasures and should have been saved!!! It’s not about the people that built/paid for them it’s about the places!!

    • @robertwoodpa6463
      @robertwoodpa6463 Před 2 lety

      @@kenw4930 How do you know? He put people to work. So what if he was rich? Obviously you are socialist.

  • @DaleRussell2
    @DaleRussell2 Před 2 lety +770

    It’s tragic that these grand old places couldn’t find someone to maintain them. So unfortunate.

    • @modfus
      @modfus Před 2 lety +28

      The problem is very few people (with the means to pay for it) actually want to live like this today. The new super rich have more modern and (dare I say it) very bourgeois tastes today. When this house was built, the trend among wealthy Americans was to create residences that were imitations of historic European castles and chateaus in an effort to live like European aristocrats of a previous era. Can you seriously imagine a house like that would fit the lifestyle and tastes of Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Bill Gates or most other newly rich Americans today?

    • @siruspan
      @siruspan Před 2 lety +21

      @@modfus In europe no one actually lives in castles and chateaus but they are being preserved for further generations to admire. That is called national heritage. America could also have one already but chose to demolish it and build small ugly houses instead.

    • @aaron___6014
      @aaron___6014 Před 2 lety +5

      It's a shame taxes and labor wages are so high making it financial suicide on such a building. But it's what people voted for, higher taxes and demolition. You can barely maintain generational wealth because of taxes, without that the heirs can't afford to maintain these homes. Vote accordingly.

    • @sergpie
      @sergpie Před 2 lety +5

      @@siruspan
      In Italy, people still live in those opulent, sometimes 500+ year-old palazzos and castles, and a lot of them are relatively poor compared to the dynasties that lived in them; you’ll find that they’ve been largely turned into subdivided apartments, and local municipalities offer fat tax incentives for those that live in them and take-up the costs of maintaining historic buildings. Puglia in Italy has a program that they rebate 75-100% of restoration costs if you manage to create a business or actionable real-estate.

    • @Tinymoezzy
      @Tinymoezzy Před 2 lety +1

      @@sergpie I've seen those places, it is fantastic and beautiful. I wish that was a thing all over the world.

  • @jenniferevans2046
    @jenniferevans2046 Před 2 lety +233

    Here in the UK we have a Trust which finances and keeps our ancient mansions, castles and buildings alive. If you buy a house which in Trust, you cannot make certain alterations to it in perpetuity, so as to keep its original form. Money is raised for the larger mansions/castles etc., by charging viewers, holding concerts or weddings etc., Also our government invests in keeping old buildings alive. Its a crying shame that the US, who doesnt have that many historical buildings, have been so swift to just demolish them. History is important and should be kept alive for future generations.

    • @walteranthony6435
      @walteranthony6435 Před rokem +16

      @MaGuffintop Huh? what are you talking about? no historical value? Thank god you aren't on any preservation or historical board otherwise nothing in this country would be preserved and there would be no historical districts of fine preserved architecture. These homes were built by hundreds of skilled craftsman, artisans, architects, landscape designers, etc who created irreplaceable interiors and monumental structures that can't be duplicated today at any price. Also you say these houses were built by industrialists whose industries no longer exist? He made his fortune from silver and gold mining and founding International Telegraph and Telephone, you know ITT, the same ITT still exists after over 100 years and is listed on the NYSE.

    • @speaktruth9313
      @speaktruth9313 Před rokem +1

      @@walteranthony6435 how about ITT is made to maintain this mansion built of profits stolen from the craftsmen ,etc… It should not be maintained by our taxes.

    • @vkushima1957
      @vkushima1957 Před rokem

      There is a fund for preservation but someone has to apply for. Sad that building is gone but, the fact is that it was sold by someone that had the right.

    • @PiXie232
      @PiXie232 Před rokem +2

      @MaGuffintop if we actually had thought to do the same thing long ago, we would have far more historical homes that were at least a few hundred years old- it’s not a thousand years old like in the UK, but still, it matters. We’re a young country- we have to start somewhere. That’s a very naive way to look at the situation. Just because we’re a young country, we shouldn’t be saving our grand old houses because they’re not as old as the ones in the UK, and they’re not from familial lines? That’s ridiculous. And there are countless that do it in the US. I live in SLC, UT.. and I’ve lived in multiple residences that were historically dedicated and earmarked, as well as when I lived in Houston & CT- same situation. That’s like saying we shouldn’t save any of our more modem art either.. because well.. it was only made in the last century.

    • @saipuakivikaupias
      @saipuakivikaupias Před rokem +2

      Thank you for the reply Jennifer, I wish the USA had the same sense of perseveration for these irreplaceable buildings, now gone forever. I love this channel but fear the final 2 minutes as so often I am left with a pit in my stomach. Too many beautiful buildings constructed only to last 20-50 years.

  • @marcwright4790
    @marcwright4790 Před 2 lety +40

    Even for 27 million you could not get the craftsmanship that went into this home today.

  • @charlielaudico3523
    @charlielaudico3523 Před 2 lety +22

    There are no craftsman alive today that can equal what these men were able to do in that era!

  • @buzzkincaid5521
    @buzzkincaid5521 Před 2 lety +542

    These houses are monumental, and finished out to perfection. For the artisans, as much for the owners ego’s , the builders , landscaping crews , and my group, one of the masses , the loss is even more monumental.

    • @twistoffate4791
      @twistoffate4791 Před 2 lety +12

      Well-stated. To create a place like this, many artisans are employed & can proudly say, "I worked on that." There are servants, groundskeepers, etc, also employed by the homeowners, and some live there. The taxes are hell to pay, sure, but a wise couple will add that in to the full financial picture before choosing to build.

    • @annettepora8091
      @annettepora8091 Před 2 lety +19

      That property should have gone to a University or some type of school.

    • @twistoffate4791
      @twistoffate4791 Před 2 lety +10

      @@annettepora8091 I like the way you think. Universities have often saved old beautiful homes & used them for their interests. I wish more would.

    • @juniorsir9521
      @juniorsir9521 Před 2 lety +9

      Out of all the land in the world but someone decides to destroy a mansion in order to build a parking lot.

    • @martinphilip8998
      @martinphilip8998 Před 2 lety +3

      Thanks for the spoiler. But what else can expect from the honest title? My sister owns a grand home in Scotland, but not this grand!

  • @kmerena
    @kmerena Před 2 lety +152

    I was raised right across the street from this estate and along with my brothers and all of our friends, we would play all day on the estate. I could tell you many wonderful stories about the place and our times there. I left Roslyn in 1966 to go off to college in Hawaii, but I still go back to Roslyn to visit, although most of my visits are now done virtually, thanks to Google Maps Street View.
    This video is the best I have seen of the actual opulence of the mansion itself. Fabulous work. Thank you.

    • @ganymedegems7233
      @ganymedegems7233 Před 2 lety +4

      No way, I still live in Roslyn!

    • @judithpollack8951
      @judithpollack8951 Před rokem +4

      Ken, at least the horses were saved!
      Judiee (Ken Affias)

    • @kmerena
      @kmerena Před rokem +2

      @@judithpollack8951 Yes, Judiee, at least they saved both Horse Tamer statues. I hope that you are well. Aloha,
      Ken

    • @jeynjohnstone5917
      @jeynjohnstone5917 Před rokem +6

      Write a book about your childhoods escapades!

    • @carag2567
      @carag2567 Před rokem +5

      Did you cringe when he said "in Long Island" instead of "on Long Island"? I did 🤣

  • @davidwelch4841
    @davidwelch4841 Před 2 lety +370

    Destruction of all these great homes is tragic. Even today wealthy people are building mansions larger and larger; that succeeding generations will not be able to maintain. Sadly the cycle continues.

    • @gardensofthegods
      @gardensofthegods Před 2 lety +37

      Except that today's mansions a lot of them are ugly square concrete soulless boxes .... doubtful 150 years from now people will mourn the loss of those cold concrete boxes

    • @SRose-vp6ew
      @SRose-vp6ew Před 2 lety +2

      @@gardensofthegods At least this ugly new industrial style is sturdy. Maybe that's the goal.

    • @420days6
      @420days6 Před 2 lety +4

      That is why it is better to build a place that is not like Disneyland, save your money and travel around the world

    • @alexanderSydneyOz
      @alexanderSydneyOz Před 2 lety +1

      ​@@gardensofthegods Which sounds good! All this crying in the pretzels because some grand building from the past has been demolished! It's so silly; it was just an ostentatious wooden house. Not like the Alexandria Lighthouse. Anyway, when newer grand homes are demolished, at least noone will have to care.

    • @missf4681
      @missf4681 Před 2 lety +3

      Yes and they can't compare to these beautiful homes. They don't have the elegance the grace or the craftsmanship. They are just big rooms without character or warmth

  • @sunspiral79
    @sunspiral79 Před 2 lety +152

    Im always amazed...The amount of work that when into these homes...The number of people whos hands made it...The craftsmanship....All lost in time

    • @lorimiller4301
      @lorimiller4301 Před 2 lety +5

      There's a wild story about a church that needed a staircase and they prayed for help. A priest showed up and crafted an amazing spiral staircase that is stunning in both the way it looks and the way it was designed. Then the guy left. It's a great true story.

    • @Todd_Kobell
      @Todd_Kobell Před rokem

      @@lorimiller4301 That was my great uncle Duncan McAwkner

    • @valley505
      @valley505 Před rokem +1

      @@lorimiller4301 yes the Loretto chapel in Santa Fe NM. The staircase has no middle support so basically it’s “floating” 1 man with nothing but a bag of tools and wood that wasn’t native to the land and the condition of him working on the staircase is that no one watch him or enter the church during his work. Then vanished. With out pay.

    • @valley505
      @valley505 Před rokem

      @@lorimiller4301 no supports and no railing. The railing you see in pics was added later

    • @valley505
      @valley505 Před rokem

      @@lorimiller4301 even with modern tools and electric power tools will still be a complex task. But the fact that one man and with hand tools in 1800’s built this is astonishing and really sad if you think about it. We can’t build anything of quality to match this nowadays, if you do it’s very rare and expensive

  • @Melissa-sy9lk
    @Melissa-sy9lk Před rokem +4

    Breaks me every time a structure or edifice, rich in history and architectural magnificence, is torn down. Such exquisite craftsmanship is practically nonexistent today...

  • @AmberKingmusic
    @AmberKingmusic Před 2 lety +42

    Demolishing buildings like this just makes me sad I understand the financial burden these large estates carry but buildings aren't made the same anymore not only did this place have artisan's work and skilled craftsmanship but even if someone took on the task and rebuilt it there is no way to make it the same the materials can't be sourced from the same places and I doubt the original plans would be up to our modern building codes but if the place was still standing the code issues could be addressed appropriately and I guarantee it would have landmark status overall it's just sad

  • @vincentizizimo
    @vincentizizimo Před 2 lety +96

    I was totally shocked and deeply saddened to hear the house was left in ruins and later was destroyed using dynamites. I wonder why New York government didn't even care to intervene to save it.

    • @julioviloria3289
      @julioviloria3289 Před 2 lety +17

      Government would rather someone rebuild the property back to high valuation so they can generate higher property taxes.

    • @speaktruth9313
      @speaktruth9313 Před rokem +5

      I don’t feel bad this wealthy family lost the house as large profits is money taken from the workers who were not paid well…but I could see ITT maintaining it ,not tax dollars.

    • @denisperez8031
      @denisperez8031 Před rokem +1

      Yeah spend taxpayer money on a house other billionaires passed up on. Sounds like political suicide & a waste of taxpayer money …blowing it up was the right thing to do

  • @mermaidmersea7113
    @mermaidmersea7113 Před 2 lety +2

    OMG! My heart broke at the end!

  • @buffmontana4203
    @buffmontana4203 Před 2 lety +106

    I grew up on Long Island and when I was older my friends and I would look for these gold coast mansions. Thankfully some of them are still standing either privately owned or turned into museums, One was abandoned in which we explored but thankfully someone bought and restored. One , on its own island was demolished in the 1980s which was sad. Thanks for this video, it brought back memories of "house hunting".

    • @karensmith1158
      @karensmith1158 Před 2 lety +6

      I grew up on LI also, and during the '70s a group of us would travel around and when we spotted "a row of trees" we knew at the end of it would be a mansion. We were usually not disappointed. Visited many abandoned estates during that time. Ballroom arquet floors warped, silk drapes rotting, beautiful stables in ruins and most interesting, were the family possessions left behind. I've got some momentos of those adventurous days. So sad it's all gone.

    • @gardensofthegods
      @gardensofthegods Před 2 lety

      Where this Mansion once stood and was developed into 400 houses .... do you know the name of that neighborhood now ?
      Is it called Lloyd Harbor ?
      I wanted to see what the neighborhood looks like now or what was built there after the Mansion was torn down but when I look up harborhill it just shows the mansion .
      Any ideas how I can find out what replaced it or what it looks like now in that area ?

    • @buffmontana4203
      @buffmontana4203 Před 2 lety +1

      @@gardensofthegods It was formally in the area of Roslyn in Nassau County.

    • @ultraviolettas
      @ultraviolettas Před 2 lety +1

      @@karensmith1158 I grew up in Manhattan in the 90s and 2000s and always wish I could have gone back to the 70s to explore the ruins by myself 😭

    • @karensmith1158
      @karensmith1158 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ultraviolettas I walked through the mansion where they filmed the original Sabrina scenes when the owner died and was having an estate sale. I wished I could travel back to the time these mansions were at their height.

  • @azcomeazgo
    @azcomeazgo Před 2 lety +2

    As a resident of Nevada, I thank you for pronouncing the state's name correctly :-).

  • @brucesmith3072
    @brucesmith3072 Před 2 lety +14

    I grew up on Long Island, and believe your dialogue 100%. The layout closely follows Fitzgerald's 'Great Gatsby'. Also, it's location, the book's 'Egg Harbor' doesn't exist, but Great Neck sure
    does. LI had many such mansions during the 1920's, taking credit for Great Gatsby, but yours makes sense. Mostly torn down, you may be interested to know most were grand but not well
    built. Closed down during winter, their glitzy interiors fell apart, being moulded plaster, not cement. But their land worth a fortune!

  • @lgblgb7489
    @lgblgb7489 Před 2 lety +4

    Not to nitpick, but as a lifelong Long Islander, I must point out that, although F. Scott Fitzgerald did draw inspiration from the parties here, the actual inspiration for Jay Gatsby’s house was Beacon Towers in Sands Point (Sands Point & Kings Point were East Egg & West Egg, respectively). Beacon Towers was built by Alva Vanderbilt, later purchased by William Randolph Hearst, and Daisy Buchanan’s house was Kidd’s Rock/Lands End - recently torn down for another McMansion development.
    Mackay chose the highest natural point on Long Island to built his house; not to be outdone, Otto Kahn spent two years building up the hill that Oheka Castle would eventually be built upon.

    • @thedativecase9733
      @thedativecase9733 Před rokem +1

      I don't regret all demolition of old mansions, but you would think a house connected with such a famous American novel like the Kidd's Rock/Lands End that you mention could have been saved. Maybe as a museum of life in that extraordinary era .An era we all know, but never actually experienced.

  • @williamlloyd3769
    @williamlloyd3769 Před 2 lety +16

    You have to wonder if any of the houses wood paneling was removed and sold on for other houses or libraries. Attended a fund raiser in Pasadena, CA and the houses carved walnut paneling came from a French chateau over 150 years old

  • @kathrynmolesa1641
    @kathrynmolesa1641 Před 2 lety +14

    One mansion in our city was converted into a museum. Wonderful way to see life 100 years ago.

  • @Gizathecat2
    @Gizathecat2 Před 2 lety +167

    An old church in Seattle was converted into three unique condos, so it is possible the Gilded Age mansions could have too. If they only hung on a bit longer.

    • @twistoffate4791
      @twistoffate4791 Před 2 lety +14

      @Lydia Gaebe, I love comments like this. What a cool way to use a structure that is already there, and gives everyone who either lives there or drives past variety. It's better than cookie-cutter everything.

    • @653j521
      @653j521 Před 2 lety +1

      The difference in scale between an old church and an acre of house is staggering. They are putting up a development for 400 homes.

    • @twistoffate4791
      @twistoffate4791 Před 2 lety +8

      @@653j521 I am sorry you enjoy rubbish, never leaving anything of beauty to remain. This will not be the best channel for you. Move on.

    • @h.r.puffinstuff7099
      @h.r.puffinstuff7099 Před 2 lety +9

      In England they converted old mansions into condos. In England they had so so many that were torn down too. People couldn’t afford to inherit these vast homes PLUS PAY ALLTHE TAXES.

    • @nikitab92
      @nikitab92 Před 2 lety

      I'm from Everett. What church in Seattle are you referring to?🧐

  • @LadyJ2100
    @LadyJ2100 Před rokem +5

    Loved that movie and that house was grand! Just like the house Mr. Warbucks had in the movie Annie...that too was a grand treasure. The house that inspired The great Gatsby would have made a wonderful resort!

    • @gillianwalker1266
      @gillianwalker1266 Před rokem

      Was just thinking of that house in Annie while watching this

  • @james5460
    @james5460 Před 2 lety +9

    I grew up on Long Island. A bunch of grand estates survived into the 1970s and 1980s. Now, they are an extremely rare commodity, either completely gone or vastly shrunken in size.

  • @jamesharrison9856
    @jamesharrison9856 Před 2 lety +15

    The story of this property brings a sense of sadness especially the sale of such magnificence to a developer that is captured in the plot of “The Great Gatsby”. The same winsome nature of Gatsby’s life...

  • @Strong_UP_Calvins_zombie
    @Strong_UP_Calvins_zombie Před 2 lety +2

    Wow epic home.

  • @CARTER.J
    @CARTER.J Před 2 lety +24

    The fountain in the picture at @ 3:52 was disassembled and sold to JC Nichols of Kansas City and was installed on the Country Club Plaza in the mid 1940s and has been there ever since, it's always taken care of and a focal point of the high end shopping district

    • @klaudiaknows5908
      @klaudiaknows5908 Před rokem +1

      Thanks for that info! I will appreciate it more when I see it again😊♥️

    • @CARTER.J
      @CARTER.J Před rokem

      @@klaudiaknows5908 I know right!!! IDK if you are from Kansas City but there are alot historic gems like this all around! I like historic things like that....

    • @klaudiaknows5908
      @klaudiaknows5908 Před rokem +1

      @@CARTER.J yea I’m from KC I worked at the Nelson for a little while and love history so much. KC has a lot of secrets I’d love to know more! How do we become friends?

    • @CARTER.J
      @CARTER.J Před rokem

      @@klaudiaknows5908 that is awesome

    • @CARTER.J
      @CARTER.J Před rokem +1

      @@klaudiaknows5908 I'm not sure , it will not let me leave my email address on the comments but you seem like we would get along great!

  • @blueyzsf
    @blueyzsf Před 2 lety +19

    There is a home in Virginia City known as The Mackay Mansion. John Mackay owned the house and conducted business there. It's a very popular place for paranormal investigations. I've investigated there several times.

  • @christopherkraft1327
    @christopherkraft1327 Před 2 lety +8

    This home is gorgeous, I love all of the rich wood paneling & the ornate fireplaces!!! Thanks for the tour!! 👍🙂

  • @josephconsoli4128
    @josephconsoli4128 Před 2 lety +16

    Actually, common knowledge has it that "Beacon Towers", a literal castle in Sands Point, was the inspiration of "The Great Gadsby". The situation is simple to understand. Land on the north shore of Long Island was cheap in the teens and '20's, so once the 59th street bridge was built, the rich bought up acres and acres of land and made ridiculously huge summer homes on them. Combine that with no income tax and it was a free-for-all for these people. By around the time of WWII, things drastically changed and even the extremely rich could not maintain their summer castles. Most went down. It's amazing that a number of them still stand with the huge property taxes and upkeep.

    • @kiwilerner
      @kiwilerner Před 2 lety +2

      Yup, and the less-posh "West Egg" referred to Great Neck (specifically, Kings Point at the northern tip), similarly jutting out across the sea from its wealthier neighbor. Although "less posh" is all relative... Kings Point has been home to numerous celebrities in its heyday and still contains massively wealthy residents and lovely mansions w/views of NYC beyond the L.I. Sound.
      (Fitzgerald himself lived in Great Neck, I believe in the Russell Gardens section--which, while less tony than Kings Point, is still for the wealthy. Upper-upper middle class, maybe.)

    • @josephconsoli4128
      @josephconsoli4128 Před 2 lety +2

      @@kiwilerner I agree. Yes, it all started close to the NYC line and then worked it's way further east pretty quickly.These areas are still wholly for the very wealthy and still consist of new and old mansions. It's just that the acreage has been greatly diminished. I love the history of Long Islands "Gold Coast" and have hiked and biked the area many times. Stil beautiful.

    • @julioviloria3289
      @julioviloria3289 Před 2 lety +1

      Money printer go brrrr

  • @marilyn6556
    @marilyn6556 Před 2 lety +2

    “The Great Gatsby”!!! My favorite book!!! Gorgeous mansion!

  • @StamperWendy
    @StamperWendy Před 2 lety +19

    Thanks, Ken! I would've loved to have known if any of the furniture and art were saved/salvaged before the demolition.

  • @jenniferthomas3875
    @jenniferthomas3875 Před 2 lety +16

    The mansion that Robert Redford lived in ,in the Gatsby movie was actually "The Breakers" in Newport, R.I.
    The property taxes you would have to pay on those mansions on Long Island's "Gold Coast" were SO high that even people who were rich enough to buy them would not want to pay the tax. The majority of them were knocked down to make room for smaller houses.

    • @henrygardner8418
      @henrygardner8418 Před 2 lety +10

      Wrong. He lived in "Rosecliff."

    • @LJB103
      @LJB103 Před 2 lety +7

      @@henrygardner8418 Correct.

    • @LJB103
      @LJB103 Před 2 lety +1

      Breakers error aside, another major reason people got rid of these huge mansions was that they could no longer get (or afford) the large staffs needed to maintain them. People were looking for other, better paying jobs.

  • @mrpeel3239
    @mrpeel3239 Před 2 lety +9

    My late Aunt and Uncle lived many decades across from John Mackay III's "Happy House", in the Nob Hill development in East Hills. This historic house has been repeatedly threatened with demolition.

    • @kmerena
      @kmerena Před 2 lety +2

      Having been raised on Salem Rd. and Harbor Hill Rd. from 1948 to 1966, I know the area you are talking about very well. What a privilege to be raised there.

  • @LJB103
    @LJB103 Před 2 lety +33

    Thank you for this video. The family name was actually pronounced as if it were Italian: Macchi (Maa-key). Clarence's daughter Ellin was the wife of Irving Berlin. The Keck Museum at the Univ. of Nevada has the major part of the enormous silver service that Tiffany made for Clarence's mother from Comstock silver.

  • @jimmy_nguyen
    @jimmy_nguyen Před 2 lety +2

    From an architectural & historical standpoint, this was a marvel of its time and could serve today as a museum on its own, ala Getty on the East Coast. The Getty Villa was built not too far from the Getty Museum but was similar in structure and layout of this mansion.... The grounds could easily be gardens/parks & rec... I mean, "coulda woulda shoulda" right? Still sad to know there will never be a place of such elaborate and well built construction today without it looking like it's trying SO hard to be a Gilded Age copy.

  • @IgnoretheButter
    @IgnoretheButter Před 2 lety +9

    The rich during the guilded age definitely flaunted their money, but I wish a lot of the mansions would have been preserved as museums or some other usage. One thing I really wish was preserved, Is Chicago's Columbian Exposition architecture

  • @St.Linguini_of_Pesto
    @St.Linguini_of_Pesto Před 2 lety +7

    I really appreciate the time & effort that has gone into creating these videos.
    Always well researched, script is written well & delivered perfectly, and colonizing the photos [makes the details really pop!]. Thank you for this _entire_ series.. I love the old, grand homes of the Gilded Age.

  • @thepup1235
    @thepup1235 Před rokem +1

    It’s truly so sad that some of these are such landmarks and just wiped out. But it is pretty amazing to know that you have a home built on a parcel that has so much history!

  • @Polemodrome
    @Polemodrome Před 3 měsíci +1

    2:44 This rococo style living room is my favorite

  • @virginiagobetz9946
    @virginiagobetz9946 Před rokem +2

    I grew up on Long Island and feel a deep sense of loss when the destruction of the fabulous estates are mentioned.I wish more of them would have been saved,but all good things must come to an end and at least we have a few that survived along with gardens and photos.

  • @ItsJustLisa
    @ItsJustLisa Před 2 lety +2

    Wonderful video.
    Just a note, the Prince of Wales went by his fourth name David until he became king in January 1936 and then used his given first name Edward as his regnal name. After his abdication 11 months later, he went back to going by David. His brother did the opposite, always going by his given first name of Albert (Bertie) and taking his fourth name, George, as his regnal name.

  • @rickyf
    @rickyf Před 2 lety +2

    I grew up in the development that had been Harbor Hill in the late 1950s. We always pronounced the former owner’s name as “Mack key” not “Ma kay. Don’t know which pronunciation is correct. The gate house shown in the video became the entrance to the neighborhood pool club at the intersection of Harbor Hill and Roslyn roads. There were still other derelict robber baron mansions in the area back in my day that my buddies and I used to ride our bikes to.

    • @AlumniQuad
      @AlumniQuad Před 2 lety

      "Mackie" is the way it's pronounced in Virginia City and I think I've heard it that way somewhere else as well.

    • @kmerena
      @kmerena Před 2 lety

      I spent a lot of time sneaking into the Country Estates pool at night after all the homes were built. It was technically on Mimosa Drive because the Gate House which led to the Pool House hadn't been open for many years after the Estate was sold and developed for Country Estates homes. I'm sure you all know what became of the two "Horse Tamer" statues----------- One wound up at 55 Peach Drive and the other graced the circle at Roslyn High School. Later, the one on Peach Drive was relocated to The Duck Pond (Sorry, Dr. Gerry, but for us Roslynites, it will ALWAYS be The Duck Pond)

  • @mariaboletsis3188
    @mariaboletsis3188 Před 2 lety +1

    All the beauty and grandeur of those years...gone within minutes. So sad. Thank you for your videos, you bring back all the splendor that we will never know in this generation.

  • @randomtest3932
    @randomtest3932 Před 2 lety

    I really enjoy your videos and descriptions and info on these homes... Library ALWAYS my Favorite Rooms!

  • @krab1791
    @krab1791 Před rokem +1

    The 1974 film adaptation was filmed in two of the Mansion in Newport RI. You can still tour them. It is amazing how opulent these houses are. The two used for the 1974 film were Rosecliff and Marble house.
    Marble House was built for some of the Vanderbilt’s.
    If you do go visit them make sure to stop at The Breakers (not related to the film but one of the best mansions there).
    For some odd reason, the 2013 version was filmed in Australia.

  • @chesspiece81
    @chesspiece81 Před 2 lety +1

    What an absolutely gorgeous house

  • @jonnarobinson7541
    @jonnarobinson7541 Před rokem +1

    Fortunately, many of the grand houses in Newport, Rhode Island are still standing. They used Rosecliff and Marble House for the 1974 film version of Gatsby.

  • @src4409
    @src4409 Před 2 lety +2

    Imagine it as a museum today, or a hotel, a private school.

  • @rogersledz6793
    @rogersledz6793 Před rokem

    Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!

  • @aronc24
    @aronc24 Před 2 lety +2

    Just want to say thank you for taking the time to keep history alive. Are there any other channels you love or would recommend?

  • @henrygardner8418
    @henrygardner8418 Před 2 lety +3

    Ken,
    Superb. This is your best video.

  • @josephpadula2283
    @josephpadula2283 Před 2 lety +4

    You have to remember income tax rose to eventually be up to 90% for high income earners!
    There were lots of deductions but what was taxed was at 90 %.
    Taxes are lower now and more can be put into big houses again .
    The price of fuel to heat these houses also went up dramatically.
    I worked in the basement of a Stanford White House built for his daughter in Rumson, NJ doing a repair.
    They were well built!

  • @thedativecase9733
    @thedativecase9733 Před rokem +1

    I've recently discovered your channel and find it fascinating. As an English woman I never realised how many interesting old houses there were - and are- in the U.S. This appealed to me especially as I love the Great Gatsby, it's one of my favourite American novels.

  • @JFCllPtown
    @JFCllPtown Před rokem

    I was stationed at Roslyn ANG station for 6 years back in the 1980’s. I knew there once was a mansion there but never knew the history of it. Thanks for filling in the blanks.

  • @pattiearehart118
    @pattiearehart118 Před 2 lety +63

    I’ve watched several of these “Mansion” videos. I find them depressing. So much money poured into building these works of art just to be demolished 50 or so years later. What a waste! And we think we live in a disposable world!

    • @MelvinJ64
      @MelvinJ64 Před 2 lety +5

      They should never have been built to start with. That's where the real waste of money occurred. Who needs to live like this? Even his wife left him cause it's all emptiness. Empty egos. Gross waste of money by the owners. Inevitable that the unsustainable monstrosity would be torn down.

    • @patricksutfin9374
      @patricksutfin9374 Před 2 lety +5

      @@MelvinJ64 I think the staff that used to feed their families by working there may disagree. Being envious because you can not live that lifestyle is no way to go through life. Ambition to live a better life for your children and yourself and able to support others families through gainful employment even the lavish parties which were used to break ice on business dealings to generate more employment and more production.

    • @kathymcel
      @kathymcel Před 2 lety +3

      @@patricksutfin9374 I agree that it is a gross waste of money. No one needs to live this way. No one needs such a huge mansion to have a lavish party either. That is a ridiculous statement. It's a cold place to live and far bigger than anyone could possibly need. On the other hand it is a shame to have it torn down.

    • @ecott837
      @ecott837 Před 2 lety +2

      @@patricksutfin9374 It is not about being envious, it is about the waste, total misaloccation of resources and complete unsustainability. To need a 100 people to maintain a single family home is ludicrous.
      The proof of this unsustainability is evident in the bankruptcy of the owner and the fact that no one wanted It.

    • @MelvinJ64
      @MelvinJ64 Před 2 lety +1

      @@patricksutfin9374 what you typed up is pure garbage. Having maids and grass cutters is not justification for that monstrosity. It's funny you think I'm the type of person that hates on rich people because i ain't rich myself. That's false. You don't know me. You don't know how i grew up. I grew up with maids and chaffeurs on hand mind you. I know billionaires and millionaires help create wealth for others through investment in businesses, not through stupendous spending on unsustainable luxury items. The proof is in the pudding. The house got abandoned because it was always ridiculous to start with.

  • @JohnHausser
    @JohnHausser Před 2 lety +1

    Hey
    Just discovered this wonderful channel! Nice job 😊 👍
    Cheers from San Diego California

  • @Gizathecat2
    @Gizathecat2 Před 2 lety +70

    Your tours of the Gilded Era mansions makes me so sad. If they could have hung on a bit longer they could have been made into luxury condos, resorts, or conference centers/schools. So sad.

    • @653j521
      @653j521 Před 2 lety +5

      This one was a mess by 1947. They also hadn't been able to get staff for years.

    • @moodypet8837
      @moodypet8837 Před 2 lety +3

      Go to Newport lots of them still there.

    • @sailorarwen6101
      @sailorarwen6101 Před 2 lety +1

      @@moodypet8837 one of my favorite places to visit. My family would go to the Newport mansions at least once a year. It never gets old

    • @MonsieurSingh
      @MonsieurSingh Před 2 lety

      @@moodypet8837 in Li?

  • @kartiersupremewhite330
    @kartiersupremewhite330 Před 2 lety +1

    This was extremely interesting and informative!!!!!

  • @codyrasmussen5032
    @codyrasmussen5032 Před rokem +1

    New to your channel and am so far thrilled with your work. I’d love to see more of these historical videos if you can work it.

  • @migueltor6434
    @migueltor6434 Před rokem +1

    I love the library.

  • @danasandoval624
    @danasandoval624 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video!!

  • @coopsevy5664
    @coopsevy5664 Před rokem

    I loved all the rooms the art work is amazing!

  • @taylorbumbum
    @taylorbumbum Před 2 lety +1

    CZcams algorithm brought me here randomly and you know what… definitely subscribed

  • @SpanishEclectic
    @SpanishEclectic Před 2 lety +10

    I love all that beautiful woodwork, created from the bounty of old growth forests. The word 'demolished' sounds so awful. It's sad to see beautiful homes stripped of their finery, but at least the materials could have been reused. I hope. Employment for workers at the beginning, and at the end, and the staff in between. I reread The Great Gatsby recently, and it's an odd tale about the frailties of humanity, and the consequences of great wealth.

  • @mikenixon2401
    @mikenixon2401 Před 2 lety +14

    Ken, I always enjoy making cultural and historic coparisons between 100 year segments of time. Perhaps a comparative to when it comes to mansions may be interesing. Thanks.

  • @fredk6992
    @fredk6992 Před 2 lety +1

    i love how these houses all share identical stories, built in the 20s an a ridiculous scale only for its owners to by wiped out by the crash and rendering the houses unsellable

  • @Linda-pw8gx
    @Linda-pw8gx Před 2 lety +2

    You noted that this was the 8th largest house, it would be wonderful if you could do a show listing them all in order ? Love your videos! Thank you so much.

  • @danfreisting2874
    @danfreisting2874 Před 2 lety

    Great explanation of the house

  • @Tiffany-vj1tv
    @Tiffany-vj1tv Před 2 lety +12

    This is like watching a train wreck 😢Why were these people so wasteful... I love your channel new subscriber and just love the history!!!!! Thank you for sharing and all your hard work!!!!

  • @tgmorrow
    @tgmorrow Před 2 lety

    I love your posts!

  • @kathleenlingenfelder2287
    @kathleenlingenfelder2287 Před 2 lety +1

    The story was GREAT!

  • @sergelouissieben6754
    @sergelouissieben6754 Před rokem +1

    What a waist such a beautiful house
    I love this channel
    Thank you 🙏

  • @soniadubey4773
    @soniadubey4773 Před 2 lety +1

    Splendid house

  • @JuangONZALES-jb6eq
    @JuangONZALES-jb6eq Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the book report lad

  • @65stang98
    @65stang98 Před 2 lety

    my visit to the vanderbilt mansion in the early 2000s will always be a treasured memory of mine

  • @lisad476
    @lisad476 Před 2 lety

    Wonderful

  • @nathaliedufour3891
    @nathaliedufour3891 Před rokem

    Amazing

  • @loridriskell8121
    @loridriskell8121 Před 2 lety +4

    Ohh that such a shame to let go of such elegance😭

  • @rd4501
    @rd4501 Před 2 lety +1

    I am a new fan of your channel great job 👍

  • @Brokenheartsministryjan714

    Beautiful place.

  • @NotSereyus
    @NotSereyus Před 2 lety +2

    Good video, well researched, edited and colorized. We’ll done.

  • @Dackota
    @Dackota Před rokem

    I remember going to UNR and touring the Mackay School of Mines.

  • @Jakereviewsall
    @Jakereviewsall Před 2 lety

    Such gorgeous elaborate homes they built back then, nothing is built today like it once was. I would have looked to see these in their prime.

  • @crawfordsmith3700
    @crawfordsmith3700 Před 2 lety

    I enjoy these presentations , as I continue to study and learn American social and financial history at the dawn of my elder years.
    Thank you much for your video documentary report. I am slightly enlightened.

  • @whigparty6180
    @whigparty6180 Před 2 lety +2

    The lack of respect for art, craftsmanship and history is staggering. Didn't anyone protest such senseless destruction?

  • @JimJoeKnoxTenn
    @JimJoeKnoxTenn Před 2 lety +67

    That destruction, and for similar reasons, continues to this day. Here in Knoxville, Villa Collina, the largest single-family mansion in Tennessee (40,250 square feet, 86 rooms) was built of the finest materials available as recently as the late 1990s. Sited on 8 acres overlooking the Tennessee River and with scenic views of the Great Smoky Mountains, it was demolished -- following two auctions to dispose of interior furnishings and then interior and exterior architectural features -- last month (April 2022). The new owners plan to subdivide the site into three separate lots for three new private homes.

    • @jellis260
      @jellis260 Před 2 lety +8

      It was atrocious and the architecture was way out of place. Im not sure how you’re confusing that with these homes.

    • @meadowsmama9423
      @meadowsmama9423 Před 2 lety +3

      From Tennessee and did not know this.
      We went out by Dixon springs and saw whole farms for sell, huge beautifully maintained farmhouse for sell and we believe they’ll be town town and built lots like this. It’s happening around us in cross plains. Tn. Sad they hold so much history

    • @melissajenniferjones9959
      @melissajenniferjones9959 Před 2 lety +4

      How sad to read this. When we destroy our history we destroy a piece of ourselves.

    • @jellis260
      @jellis260 Před 2 lety +4

      @@melissajenniferjones9959 that home was built between 1993-2000. It was incredibly tacky and out of place. No one destroyed a piece of history.

    • @melissajenniferjones9959
      @melissajenniferjones9959 Před 2 lety

      @@jellis260 oh well.

  • @rick0e295
    @rick0e295 Před 2 lety +5

    Another great post! As others have said it is sad that so many magnificent historic buildings have been sacrificed to greed! So many were built on mining fortunes, such as FILOLI, the Bournes estate ( probably best known as seen on DYNASTY) from wealth of EMPIRE gold strike. Fortunately, through some rough times, it is now a National Trust property. Was fortunate enough to visit some years ago. If you do posts on property still surviving , would suggest FILOLI, Mar A Lago, and Lyndhurst. Have you done Winfield Hall or any other Woolworth or Barbara Hutton property? I understand that at one time in not too distant past a branch of the Woolworth family had substantial holdings in Maine. Believe there were multiple homes on property and perhaps a working farm.

  • @allisterfong4867
    @allisterfong4867 Před 2 lety +1

    Tragic that this masterpiece like so many others didn’t survive the times.

  • @judyimel5697
    @judyimel5697 Před rokem

    Wow love

  • @nomadbrad6391
    @nomadbrad6391 Před 2 lety +4

    CRAZY that such a magificent property was abandoned LESS than 42 years after it was built.

  • @folsominc2
    @folsominc2 Před 2 lety +2

    This is sooo sad! Something that great, and like the others, should be preserved and made use of.

  • @ladyshakari
    @ladyshakari Před 2 lety

    Beautiful home

  • @nonamenoname4175
    @nonamenoname4175 Před rokem

    This was very interesting. I grew up on the North Shore of Long Island and people always speculated about which house was the "Gatsby mansion". Now I know. There was another house called, Land's End (Sands Point), and legend had it that Fitzgerald wrote some of the "Great Gatsby" while he stayed there. This mansion was supposed to be razed about 10 years ago to make way for smaller plots. William Randolph Hearst also had a mansion at the very tip of Sands Point which also was eventually torn down. Supposedly, Orson Welles had him in mind when he filmed "Citizen Kane". It would be great to hear the story of that mansion.

  • @a.alegates641
    @a.alegates641 Před rokem +1

    So sad when something so beautiful and timeless is destroyed

  • @billy1673
    @billy1673 Před 2 lety +11

    I wanna say I hate watching your videos because they inevitably end with some scumbag with a bag full of money buying these works of art/historical landmarks and bulldozing them.
    Drives me nuts how shortsighted those people were back in the day.
    But I keep watching because I love these houses!
    I’m one of the lucky few that grew up on Long Island only a mile away from Sagamore Hill in Oyster Bay.
    Thankfully Teddy Roosevelt’s house isn’t going anywhere!

  • @keithng128
    @keithng128 Před 2 lety +7

    Just this mansion alone, can support a livelihood of a village.
    How, nice would it be, if they are looking and working on around this idea... And create a living, out of this wonderful work of art / mansion, and the surrounding lush greenery and land.
    Just, Keeps the work going, and money will rolling ... Not huge per say, but it will be enough, to support a decent living conditions for everyone around it.
    Sad... It's all gone for good.

  • @oliviadawson8665
    @oliviadawson8665 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m related to Stanford white, this was such a cool thing to learn I didn’t know he did that

  • @ezragonzalez8936
    @ezragonzalez8936 Před 2 lety +5

    A manhattan condo is more than $28 million now! lol

  • @cherylb2008
    @cherylb2008 Před 2 lety +2

    Sad so many of these beautiful estates were torn down

  • @katebogarin
    @katebogarin Před 9 měsíci +1

    His fathers house is still in Virginia city, it is beyond amazing.

  • @brianpeck4035
    @brianpeck4035 Před 2 lety +2

    It's interesting how so many get depressed at the thought of these monuments to excess being destroyed. My depression triggers at the thought of what will replace it. Maybe I love ruins. It is amazing that the couple lived in a little cottage on the estate while the manor laid empty. The Great Depression!