This is a great install video. (HOWEVER) THE TANK IS NOT TO SAVE TIME AIRING UP TIRES. the stored air is a useful tool when using air tools out in the field. I know people will bash your video because OOHHH I saved 15 seconds... blah blah blah. if you would hook up a 1/2 inch impact gun to remove a tire it would loosen 1 lug nut and compressor could not catch up enough to hit the next lug. (trust me ive tried this) but when you install a tank you could loosen 3 wheels before running out of air pressure. a tank is a great idea no matter what any of these negative nancies tell you. people are a bunch of shit talkers and half of them don't do or ever try anything cool just to see if it saves 15 seconds. great channel keep the projects coming.
Hey man, I read your comment but I want to make sure if I purchase a system with a small 1 gal tank I can run a power tool and loosen 3 tires before it has to fill up again ? Or no
in the 2 ports you've blocked, i would have used the bottom one for the moisture drain and the last one for the pressure relief valve. also i dont know if arb compressor has a check valve but i'd be putting one between it and the big tank
Ive got a mutt mixed system with kline air horns jeep kit with a 2.8 gallon tank and under my drivers side seat ive got the dual arb pump. My fill times where not much faster filling my 37s up from 8 to 9 psi until I upgraded my hose sizes... that is the one thing that made the most difference. My tank empties very fast but the added capacity is very helpful for all sorts of things. I even use my kit when I'm cleaning up after the weekend, great for auto detail and filling tires... the air horns are a great communication device also
Having a tank vs not having tank is the purpose of this video. Most will just only have the compressor , which is slow and having a tank will speed things up. That’s the point of this video.
The tank doesnt add much for airing back up but it will help it you decide to use it with air tools and your pump will last longer because it will stop and cool off a little instead of running continuously
hey man, Good vid. I presently have a ARB twin, but mine is for air lockers for front and back differentals. Now I want to add a tank to run pneumatic tools. looking into it and watching your vid, I see something you may consider and overlooked. you have/had 4 openings..you blocked one on the side, one on the bottom and used two for inlet and outlet...AWESOME..YOU GOT IT!. Just one point, that one you plugged on the bottom is for a water drain. Pressure, humidity in the air is going to fill your tank full of water and rust until it reaches the outlet and start to blow out...but that will be some time, meanwhile your getting rust inside your tank.. Suggestion..if you cant work it out to put a water drain and reach it directly on the tank, then maybe undo everything you just did, fit a pressure hose that will dangle down where you can reach it. then have a fitting to screw on your compressor water drain spicket. i appreciated your vid..it gave me some insite to what i am going to do.
Schrader valves on a typical car tire only flow 2.6 cfm. So it doesn’t matter how much air you have or how big your line is, the valve is the restriction. That’s why you must use a multi-tap hose and fill up multiple tires simultaneously to see any benefit from a high flow rate compressor or tank.
The tank will help a bit when doing all 4 tires. The compressor continues to run while moving from tire to tire. So basically it reduces the total air up time by the small amount you get initially for the first tire and then the time is take you to move from one tire to the next (assuming you move quick enough that the compressor doesn't stop). Money would be better spent on a 4 tire inflation system with chucks that are off when not connected. You can start the compressor, hook up the first tire and as it starts to fill connect the other three tires. The compressor will run the entire time and since you are filling up all 4 tires at the same time the valve restrictions don't matter because you've split the CFM between them.
I've been through this scenario already... I upgraded to the ARB twin compressor and a 4 gallon tank. So much better. Shouldn't have ways my time with the single one. But you live and learn.
I have both portable ARBs and as others have said, You should of fitted the Drain Tap in the bottom hole because within a week of constant use with will have a lot of water in the tank, It's a great video but I really would pull the tank and fit the drain tap,
Ppl commenting , if you want to air up all 4 tires at one go, just mount. 25 gallon air compressor . He’s just working with space and what not s still Better than no tank.
Thank you for the video man that was an amazing follow along tutorial, I'm gonna have a blast this weekend to finally install this exact same air compressor and tank! thanks a bunch
Nice vid. Prob long run the pump has time to fill the tank between tires thus putting less strain on your air compressor running flat out for all tires.
The opposite… because now the compressor will constantly be running the whole time whilst trying to fill the tank and tyres before getting to cut off pressure and I’m pretty sure the ARB single compressor is not 100% duty cycle, so will likely thermal cut and burn out faster.
This was my thought as well - you REALLY don't want your tank to rust out! Is the best way to relieve pressure from the system as well - water and air both.
where did you get the AN lines and fittings? I'm unfamiliar with AN stuff but it looks a lot cleaner than rubber hose and clamps! Wow so many haters commenting. Glad you stay positive!
It’s because I’m dead inside... lol jk! You can get AN fittings and almost race shops. If you’re not too familiar with them, you’d want to go talk to someone that has them in stock so they can set you up with what you’re trying to do. If you know exactly what you want, you can order online on amazon or summit racing
The arb single or dual compressors seem fine.. but thats a huge huge amount of money for a small compressor. Rather add a second battery and a large inverter and use a mid size 120 volt compressor. I might consider the air tank under the truck...and weld two brackets on the rock slider with air line coupler bodies on the brackets. So all you need is a ten foot air line that plugs in on each side of the truck.
Air tanks are for train horns. It's silly to use for airing up tires because the tank empties almost right away as it has pressure but no real volume. It's all about the volume of air that the compressor puts out, not the PSI. It's a waste of time and effort. Besides, unless you're a chase truck in the Baja 1000 then what's the rush? Airing up after coming off the trail is always a good time to BS with buddies doing the same thing and have a beer.
I’d you have a decent size tank it’s worth it. This tank is fat too small . I have a 5 gallon tank and it definitely saves time . And being able to pre fill tank and let compressor cool down means less heat and running time when it comes time to fill
With very little difference, I would suspect a restriction in the hose or connectors (chuck?) You could check the line pressure at the tank end of the hose and open the line connected to nothing and see what the pressure is - restriction pressure.
Will check it out. My assumption is the tank is too small and gets depleted quickly. The single arb pump can only pump so fast. I only gain air when I switch between one tire to another
Whats wrong leaving air in the system ? Your tires are huge and have air in them all the time. Your gas tank stays almost full with 25 plus gallons of fuel all the time.. whats a tiny tank of air going to do ??
It’s more about moisture… without a drain, keeping the air in the tank will lead to condensation as the air inside heats up and cools down. This creates pools of water inside the tank that makes them rust out. The only real advantage of having a tank, is if you can fill the tank with very high pressures, so the air dumps into the tyres fast and speeding up the process. This style of setup only has a real small burst at the start and then its the compressor filling the tank and the tyres at the same time, which over drives the compressor. Not to mention the compressor now constantly running between tyres trying to fill the tank. Without a 100% duty cycle compressor, you’ll end up thermal cutting and shortening the life of the compressor…
is it possible the little tank had enough air to fill one tire and if would have continued with 4 the time would not have been 2:30 per tire and the extra tank at that point would have made things better? would love to see comparison filling 4 tires from 20 to 35.
HuskyNoob yea I think so too. I think the main advantage would be when I go from tire to tire. That in between time when I’m not airing up, the compressor is still on and charging up the tank. Let me see if I can do a comparison vid soon!
Im thinking of using the 1.5 gallon vixen air horn tank. It has 6 ports and comes with fittings and air line. Now I'm thinking 2 gallon would be better. Thanks
all that for a 10sec improvement? not to mention the cost lol. Maybe it's not the intent of the setup but on having an "onhand" compressed air when needed specially for tools. at any rate nice vid.
15 seconds doesn't make it worth it. I have the same compresor on my Jeep and was thinking about an air tank but after seeing the diffrence. The work and the extra money is just no worth it. Good video and info man. Thanks!
Good to know! I used the 90s because they fit well with my tank placement and also because I just had them laying around. I might redo the system later
chowcares you can get 90s of npt male to npt female on Amazon $8/pair. Then run a short length of 1/4 or 3/8 inch pneumatic hose (also very cheap) and I think you would have an appreciable increase in output. Would be worth the ~$10-15. I would also try using a heavier gauge air hose to fill with, for the test, not that I would carry it with you, but just to see if that is also restricting your airflow. Anyway, I'm jealous of your setup, it will be a while before I get to do mine
The pressure switch was marked 100PSI on, 70PSI off, 5AMP when he showed it to the camera while installing it in T fitting. You can see it if you pause the video because I was also wondering what PSI the tank would be charged to.
Unnessecary cost is subjective. If you’re poor, anything is expensive. Compressed air is handy if you want to use some air tools while remote. The safety aspect doesn’t really mean anything. You’re carrying fuel in a plastic tank under your vehicle, thats far more dangerous than compressed air. Weight is negligible, if its a concern, leave a passenger at home and save more. Compressed air doesn’t explode. The container can fail, but its unlikely. The air hose connecting the tank and compressor is more likely and that wouldn’t result in an explosion, just some hissing.
I have a 25 gallon tank on my compressor in my garage airing up one tire will cause the compressor to start, at that point the tank is doing nothing and you are using 100% compressor. Any air tool will turn on the compressor quickly. So I don't see the point in these tanks for air tools or airing up tires.
What safety come if you was do g something real dirty or reason not to get duty under finger nails real men don't wear gloves on simple jobs but this is the thinking of young men sometimes you need feel what you To touching my son done this once until I got on him for being like a sissy I love working of upgrades but I only wear gloves to protect my hands from cuts not dirt when you made videos like this , learn from comments
Remove that stupid fitting that has the pressure switch on it . Have a look inside it and see how small the hole is for the air to travel through. I removed mine and put a straight air fitting to hose . And out the pressure switch into one of the air locker outlets . I could be wrong but it seems to have helped with the fitting not getting too hot now too
This is a great install video. (HOWEVER) THE TANK IS NOT TO SAVE TIME AIRING UP TIRES. the stored air is a useful tool when using air tools out in the field.
I know people will bash your video because OOHHH I saved 15 seconds... blah blah blah.
if you would hook up a 1/2 inch impact gun to remove a tire it would loosen 1 lug nut and compressor could not catch up enough to hit the next lug. (trust me ive tried this)
but when you install a tank you could loosen 3 wheels before running out of air pressure. a tank is a great idea no matter what any of these negative nancies tell you.
people are a bunch of shit talkers and half of them don't do or ever try anything cool just to see if it saves 15 seconds.
great channel keep the projects coming.
Thanks for the support. I need to try hooking up some air tools before I inevitably take it out and replace it with a dual battery system
Man, use a Milwaukee M18 impact. Done. For me, air is for tires and air bags only...
I have several milwaukee m18 impacts and they are way better than a air tool in a truck powered by a tiny compressor.
@@cayman9873 same here bro. Milwaukee for the win 😎
Hey man, I read your comment but I want to make sure if I purchase a system with a small 1 gal tank I can run a power tool and loosen 3 tires before it has to fill up again ? Or no
in the 2 ports you've blocked, i would have used the bottom one for the moisture drain and the last one for the pressure relief valve. also i dont know if arb compressor has a check valve but i'd be putting one between it and the big tank
Yuuuup! I think you’re right.
Ive got a mutt mixed system with kline air horns jeep kit with a 2.8 gallon tank and under my drivers side seat ive got the dual arb pump. My fill times where not much faster filling my 37s up from 8 to 9 psi until I upgraded my hose sizes... that is the one thing that made the most difference. My tank empties very fast but the added capacity is very helpful for all sorts of things. I even use my kit when I'm cleaning up after the weekend, great for auto detail and filling tires... the air horns are a great communication device also
Yea the small brake line I used was most likely a bottle neck. Its all gone now, replaced with a second battery
Having a tank vs not having tank is the purpose of this video. Most will just only have the compressor , which is slow and having a tank will speed things up. That’s the point of this video.
Great video, I just received my single arb and was debating on a tank. NO TANK it is 🍻
The tank doesnt add much for airing back up but it will help it you decide to use it with air tools and your pump will last longer because it will stop and cool off a little instead of running continuously
Very true! I only wish I could fit a bigger one
hey man, Good vid. I presently have a ARB twin, but mine is for air lockers for front and back differentals. Now I want to add a tank to run pneumatic tools. looking into it and watching your vid, I see something you may consider and overlooked. you have/had 4 openings..you blocked one on the side, one on the bottom and used two for inlet and outlet...AWESOME..YOU GOT IT!. Just one point, that one you plugged on the bottom is for a water drain. Pressure, humidity in the air is going to fill your tank full of water and rust until it reaches the outlet and start to blow out...but that will be some time, meanwhile your getting rust inside your tank.. Suggestion..if you cant work it out to put a water drain and reach it directly on the tank, then maybe undo everything you just did, fit a pressure hose that will dangle down where you can reach it. then have a fitting to screw on your compressor water drain spicket. i appreciated your vid..it gave me some insite to what i am going to do.
Great install video. You may want to remove your tank and install a bleeder asap so you can remove the water that is building up in the tank.
It was just temporary, ended up using that spot for a 2nd battery
Schrader valves on a typical car tire only flow 2.6 cfm. So it doesn’t matter how much air you have or how big your line is, the valve is the restriction. That’s why you must use a multi-tap hose and fill up multiple tires simultaneously to see any benefit from a high flow rate compressor or tank.
The tank will help a bit when doing all 4 tires. The compressor continues to run while moving from tire to tire. So basically it reduces the total air up time by the small amount you get initially for the first tire and then the time is take you to move from one tire to the next (assuming you move quick enough that the compressor doesn't stop). Money would be better spent on a 4 tire inflation system with chucks that are off when not connected. You can start the compressor, hook up the first tire and as it starts to fill connect the other three tires. The compressor will run the entire time and since you are filling up all 4 tires at the same time the valve restrictions don't matter because you've split the CFM between them.
I've been through this scenario already... I upgraded to the ARB twin compressor and a 4 gallon tank. So much better. Shouldn't have ways my time with the single one. But you live and learn.
Carter Allen I’m thinking about the twin compressor. Idk if it’s worth it at this point, I’d like to save up and get other upgrades first
I have both portable ARBs and as others have said, You should of fitted the Drain Tap in the bottom hole because within a week of constant use with will have a lot of water in the tank, It's a great video but I really would pull the tank and fit the drain tap,
Ppl commenting , if you want to air up all 4 tires at one go, just mount. 25 gallon air compressor . He’s just working with space and what not s still Better than no tank.
Nice! Only thing I would change is run a hose to the wheel well so you don’t have to open the hood to connect hose.
I’ve seen people do that, so convenient! Maybe in the future
Good stuff- going to copy your setup
Thank you for the video man that was an amazing follow along tutorial, I'm gonna have a blast this weekend to finally install this exact same air compressor and tank! thanks a bunch
Nice vid. Prob long run the pump has time to fill the tank between tires thus putting less strain on your air compressor running flat out for all tires.
The opposite… because now the compressor will constantly be running the whole time whilst trying to fill the tank and tyres before getting to cut off pressure and I’m pretty sure the ARB single compressor is not 100% duty cycle, so will likely thermal cut and burn out faster.
Aluminium narrow tanks for undertray tanks have a one way valve on the supply
Why don"t you use the bottom port of the tank to release the moisture out of the tank. Compressors always make H20! Nice video.
That’s a good idea! Maybe I’ll hook up a small line with a valve at the end of it to release the moisture.
This was my thought as well - you REALLY don't want your tank to rust out! Is the best way to relieve pressure from the system as well - water and air both.
Smart idea
You need a drain plug on bottom for moisture build up in the tank
Thanks! I need to find another 90 degree and a easy open and close valve.
New subscriber here. Thank you so much very detailed video. Keep the awesome videos coming
where did you get the AN lines and fittings? I'm unfamiliar with AN stuff but it looks a lot cleaner than rubber hose and clamps!
Wow so many haters commenting. Glad you stay positive!
It’s because I’m dead inside... lol jk! You can get AN fittings and almost race shops. If you’re not too familiar with them, you’d want to go talk to someone that has them in stock so they can set you up with what you’re trying to do. If you know exactly what you want, you can order online on amazon or summit racing
The arb single or dual compressors seem fine.. but thats a huge huge amount of money for a small compressor. Rather add a second battery and a large inverter and use a mid size 120 volt compressor.
I might consider the air tank under the truck...and weld two brackets on the rock slider with air line coupler bodies on the brackets. So all you need is a ten foot air line that plugs in on each side of the truck.
Dual batteries are a must!
Air tanks are for train horns. It's silly to use for airing up tires because the tank empties almost right away as it has pressure but no real volume. It's all about the volume of air that the compressor puts out, not the PSI. It's a waste of time and effort. Besides, unless you're a chase truck in the Baja 1000 then what's the rush? Airing up after coming off the trail is always a good time to BS with buddies doing the same thing and have a beer.
I NEED A TRAIN HORN!!! Hahaha
Beer 🍺 😋
I’d you have a decent size tank it’s worth it. This tank is fat too small . I have a 5 gallon tank and it definitely saves time . And being able to pre fill tank and let compressor cool down means less heat and running time when it comes time to fill
I needed this comment haha cause I was deciding whether to add a tank or not.
With very little difference, I would suspect a restriction in the hose or connectors (chuck?)
You could check the line pressure at the tank end of the hose and open the line connected to nothing and see what the pressure is - restriction pressure.
Will check it out. My assumption is the tank is too small and gets depleted quickly. The single arb pump can only pump so fast. I only gain air when I switch between one tire to another
Most excellent video
Good info good video nice work!!! Tks
Whats wrong leaving air in the system ? Your tires are huge and have air in them all the time. Your gas tank stays almost full with 25 plus gallons of fuel all the time.. whats a tiny tank of air going to do ??
Didn’t really feel too safe with it full. Plus it fills up so quick it doesn’t even matter
It’s more about moisture… without a drain, keeping the air in the tank will lead to condensation as the air inside heats up and cools down. This creates pools of water inside the tank that makes them rust out. The only real advantage of having a tank, is if you can fill the tank with very high pressures, so the air dumps into the tyres fast and speeding up the process. This style of setup only has a real small burst at the start and then its the compressor filling the tank and the tyres at the same time, which over drives the compressor. Not to mention the compressor now constantly running between tyres trying to fill the tank. Without a 100% duty cycle compressor, you’ll end up thermal cutting and shortening the life of the compressor…
is it possible the little tank had enough air to fill one tire and if would have continued with 4 the time would not have been 2:30 per tire and the extra tank at that point would have made things better? would love to see comparison filling 4 tires from 20 to 35.
HuskyNoob yea I think so too. I think the main advantage would be when I go from tire to tire. That in between time when I’m not airing up, the compressor is still on and charging up the tank. Let me see if I can do a comparison vid soon!
@@chowcares This would be great. 10 seconds is not worth the extra money and time IMO.
The difference of the two is the duty cycle 50% vs 100%.
Nice set up ! I wanna do the same in my Jeep
Thanks!
Nice video and install. Doesn't look like the price for the tank is justified only saving 15 seconds.
Im thinking of using the 1.5 gallon vixen air horn tank. It has 6 ports and comes with fittings and air line. Now I'm thinking 2 gallon would be better. Thanks
all that for a 10sec improvement? not to mention the cost lol. Maybe it's not the intent of the setup but on having an "onhand" compressed air when needed specially for tools. at any rate nice vid.
Seems like the connection between the tank and the compressor is pretty small. Do you think making this a bigger line would help?
C Wood good question, I don’t really have an solid answer. I think for fluid, it would make sense. But for air I think it should be ok.
Restriction is still restriction. I use 3/4 inch i.d. pipes on my 125 gallon 5 hp compressor in my garage.
15 seconds doesn't make it worth it. I have the same compresor on my Jeep and was thinking about an air tank but after seeing the diffrence. The work and the extra money is just no worth it. Good video and info man. Thanks!
Not really worth it unless you have room for a bigger tank. I ended up with a dual compressor
The dual ARB is 100% duty cycle, and the ARB tank is aluminum.
Good to know, thanks!
A 4 gallon tank is way better but without the right space this is really your only option.
Wow 10 seconds saved, imagine all the things you can do in that time.
Good job.
That was a lot of work for 15 seconds. Wonder how the two compressor model ARB would perform.
It was! Then I ripped it all out to try the dual compressor! Here’s that video: czcams.com/video/npXlo6dN_SY/video.html
What about a drain plug for condensation? Rust can become an issue
Wow all that work for 10s save in time 😁
Where did you get the hose and adapters???
Amazon, check the discription for links
My friend how long the singel compressor take to fill that 1gallon from empty???
15-20 seconds
@@chowcares thank you
You bottlenecked your output by using the smaller adapters. You should run straight 1/4 inch NPT For better air flow.
Good to know! I used the 90s because they fit well with my tank placement and also because I just had them laying around. I might redo the system later
chowcares you can get 90s of npt male to npt female on Amazon $8/pair. Then run a short length of 1/4 or 3/8 inch pneumatic hose (also very cheap) and I think you would have an appreciable increase in output. Would be worth the ~$10-15. I would also try using a heavier gauge air hose to fill with, for the test, not that I would carry it with you, but just to see if that is also restricting your airflow. Anyway, I'm jealous of your setup, it will be a while before I get to do mine
Pretty sure the restriction will create more heat at that connection point too…
I thought the arb single only gives 75psi?
The pressure switch was marked 100PSI on, 70PSI off, 5AMP when he showed it to the camera while installing it in T fitting. You can see it if you pause the video because I was also wondering what PSI the tank would be charged to.
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15 seconds?
Not worth it at all
With a tank, you can also use pneumatic tools
is there any moisture? moisture is always problem at the end.
It was ok for the year or so I ran it. If I had to do it over again I would install a drain at the bottom
not worth it. Unless, you use that hose to blow down the dust on there trail. Is there enough air to clear dust from bed or tail gate?
what the PSI cut off switch at? with the bigger tank it may be rated for a higher PSI which should net faster times.
So for just flat tire refill this is overkill.
4:25 did it come with the plug? The one I order didn’t.
You need a inflator that removes the valve as thats your bottle neck do this and a tank will greatly improve your inflation times
the main advantage is air tools
Damien Frizzell that’s a good point! I haven’t tried any yet but I will now. Thanks!
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These tiny compressors don’t put out nearly enough air for any real useful air tool like an impact wrench
10 seconds I’ll rather scratch it while waiting then going through all of this man !!!
Where’s the videos on your RX7 vert!?
That shit sucks no one wants to see it 😑
Can this setup be used for air horn?
Can I put more than one gallon tank
Yes, but space is tight in that location
All that effort to save 15 seconds 😂
to many cons over pro, unnecessary cost, safety, more weight to the car, have you seen compressed air explode?
Very true, when I had it installed, I’d make sure it was only filled when in use. Since then a second battery has taken its place 😐
Unnessecary cost is subjective. If you’re poor, anything is expensive. Compressed air is handy if you want to use some air tools while remote.
The safety aspect doesn’t really mean anything. You’re carrying fuel in a plastic tank under your vehicle, thats far more dangerous than compressed air.
Weight is negligible, if its a concern, leave a passenger at home and save more.
Compressed air doesn’t explode. The container can fail, but its unlikely. The air hose connecting the tank and compressor is more likely and that wouldn’t result in an explosion, just some hissing.
There's better options
When I spoke to arb they told me the single compressor only hold 75psi. Did you upgrade the pressure release to 150psi?
The cut off sensor says 150psi. Maybe I’ll put a gauge on it and see what the psi is when it cuts out
I called them back today and now theybsaid its 100psi smh but he did say we can switch it to a 150psi so it works
Definitely not worth it
Baja Overland I might try to do a bigger tank in the future
I have a 25 gallon tank on my compressor in my garage airing up one tire will cause the compressor to start, at that point the tank is doing nothing and you are using 100% compressor. Any air tool will turn on the compressor quickly. So I don't see the point in these tanks for air tools or airing up tires.
Not worth it. Another point of failure. You're still as slow as the last guy in the group.
All you guy dont use 12 volt compressor s!! All junk. Buy pancake compressor..that you plug in 115volt. Go get INVERTER!! RUN 2 PANCAKE COMPRESSOR S
Stop it bro / lose the gloves u wear gloves to air up mind blowing
Safety first! 🤣🤣🤣
What safety come if you was do g something real dirty or reason not to get duty under finger nails real men don't wear gloves on simple jobs but this is the thinking of young men sometimes you need feel what you To touching my son done this once until I got on him for being like a sissy I love working of upgrades but I only wear gloves to protect my hands from cuts not dirt when you made videos like this , learn from comments
Spell and use grammar correctly. Great video bro!!
Remove that stupid fitting that has the pressure switch on it . Have a look inside it and see how small the hole is for the air to travel through. I removed mine and put a straight air fitting to hose . And out the pressure switch into one of the air locker outlets . I could be wrong but it seems to have helped with the fitting not getting too hot now too