KLAVAN: Why I Left Judaism for Christianity
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Klavan reveals to Ben why he chose to leave Judaism for Christianity and how living with a belief in God is the only logical way we can live.
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Yo that's a great testimony Klavan, I too grew up in an atheistic Buddhist home and I came to Christ a few months ago
Amen! I was atheist my entire life because of how I was treated by Catholics in my family. But about two yrs ago I had my own experience and came to Christ. It's been amazing
@@swampypolitics9574 True dat, I know how absurd Catholicism can be: like worshipping saints etc...
Jesus wasn’t the messiah. Jesus isn’t god. The messiah isn’t god.
Accept the truth and return from your sinful ways. That the only way to repent.
Congratulations!
@@bennywolfe4357 Hush now, Satan.
I love how Ben, as a devout Jew, is able to have a very open and non argumentative conversation with a friend who does not only have a different faith but left the same faith as him to go to another one, without any mockery or a "your wrong" attitude
Judaism and Christianity is a bit like Astronomers and preppers.
They're both aware of the same dangers, but one side is more focused on the physical while the other is on the ethical.
They're not in conflict, but 2 sides of the same coin.
Islam on the other hand is trying to banish the coin altogether and go back to the idyllic life of bartering and childlike adventure.
@@fredriks5090 Oof. Modern Judaism has more in common with Islam.
Jews are forbidden by Torah Law to fraternize with idolaters.
I agree. No mockery. Open conversation even when in disagreement.
It’s hard to say that Andrew left the same faith as Ben when Andrew was never a religious Jew.
My 81 year old father started having seizures this week and a tumour was found in his head, pressing in his brain. I gave myself to God this week and prayed for the gift of health and strength for my family and the amazing people taking care of my dad. My father’s surgery was a success and my faith has been ignited. I’m so grateful for God’s mercy and blessings.
🙏🏾
Isn't he a good God😌
@@juliettejohnson3510 the best. I’m so grateful for His blessings
@@sandwich-breathI’m Jewish
You should be thanking the surgeon not santa clause.
As a Christian, I have huge respect for Ben. He’s always fair and his conversations are always respectful and gives opportunity for his guests to speak freely. You are awesome Ben and I wish you all the very best with everything you do. God bless you!
Ben needs saving from hell
@@1danieltube794 we cannot judge a person’s heart. The Lord knows what’s in Ben’s heart. As Christians, we can only pray for people. Let’s unite in prayer and ask God to open Ben’s eyes🙏🏼. God bless you
@@marinae.3504 yes but as Christians we are to spread the word and to save people. Ben needs saved
@@backofthedime9445 That not what the Bible says.
Actually, according to your own religious principles, not only will God not bless him, God is going to roast him in eternal fire. Ain't religion great?
My favorite quote by C.S. Lewis is "I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else." It appears that Mr. Klavan has reached the same epiphany.
Yeah maybe thats why Christianity borrowed the sun worship deity and traditions from the Iranian cults
@@ketsune23 Historically ignorant and you didn't understand the quote at all. Sheesh your fantasy is amazing.
@@onethdasanayake3689 historically ignorant in what? You prefer to spread your hate than exactly point out why I am wrong. That shows the real spirit of your religion. Nicene Christianity is based not only in the Iranian cults but also its core is pure Greek philosophy.
@@ketsune23 Don't you know something called 'criticism.' I never hated you, and I did point out that you were wrong cos there's no evidence that Christianity 'borrowed' from Irish cults. And the way you judge something based upon someone's BEHAVIOUR rather than the TRUE TEACHINGS says something. And wasn't it Jesus who said to 'love your enemies?'
@@l.patrick2171 Well research has a chance of being biased and flawed, and you people never EVER consider the possibility that those religions borrowed from Christianity. Why? Simply because the world hates it.
For example, there are some striking similarities in Islam and Christianity....but can we accuse Christianity for allegedly 'stealing' from Islam. No, right? Why? Cos Islam originated 600 years AFTER Christianity.
And this is not only one. There are more bad objections (and it is a common one) regarding this 'borrowing' issue. Some say Jesus was borrowed from pagan myths. Some say Genesis was borrowed from Babylon pagan legends. Some say Jesus prayed to a pagan god, and the list goes on....
And someone who says those stuff probably don't know much or haven't studied Christianity...
And regarding the sun issue, there's a possibility that C.S Lewis knew Irish cults since he was an Irish. It's easier to argue when you don't know much about Christianity and accuse someone who ACTUALLY knows the REAL history of Christianity rather than carefully research the evidence, take in the accusations safely and come to own conclusion.
Note - If you are interested Mr. Patrick, I hope we could have an honest and friendly conversation about this. Now I don't know MUCH about Irish cults and their ancient beliefs and traditions, and if you know some, teach me. AND I DEMAND YOU TEACH ME AT ONCE, ok sorry, lol.
I find it honest that Shapiro will have guests that will tell their stories as ex-Jewish without hard feelings.
He's afraid to debate nick fuentes
@@MythicDawn Hahahaahahahahahahahahahagahahahahhahahahaha
You can’t be serious?
I truly feel sorry for you
Why would there be hard feelings? That seems very petty to get upset over other people's life choices.
@@BasedDad35 ?
@@Adam-jl8nu the world is full of people despising "infidels" as traitors, damned, etc.
Was waiting to hear why you decided Christianity was the true path, I also had a similar struggle. Was raised christian, became agnostic and a mess, and came back to being christian, but this time I became a real christian.
💙💙💙🙏
You don't choose Christ, Christ chooses you. You are chosen. "My sheep hear my voice and they come when I call."
😲🤫Tender Plant Lives
Hidden Message in the
Torah /Tanak / Bible
Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32
NAMES ---- Name
MEANINGS
Adam - Man
Seth - Appointed
Enos - Mortal
Cainan - Sarrow
Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD
Jared - Shall come Down
Enoch - Teaching
Methuselah -His Death shall
Bring
Lamech -To Make /Low
Mighity
Noah -Rest / Favor /
Fulfilled
Name Meanings written in a
Sentence 😳
Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down
teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED
My Interpretation:
Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔
Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲
Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God
Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened .
Who hath believed our report ? For and to whom is the arm of lord Lord revealed ?
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath
No form nor comeliness ; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
He is despised and rejected of men; a men of sorrows , and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised and we esteemed him not.
Surely he hath borne our grief , and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
He was oppressed, and he was
all .
He was oppressed , and he was afflicted , yet he opened not his mouth : he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter , and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openers not his mouth.
He was taken from prison
From judgment: and who shall declare this generation? For
He was cut off out of the land of the living: for he was cutting off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence , neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him ; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin he shall see his seed , he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
He shall see of the travail of his soul , and shall be satisfied : by
His knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many ; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore Will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the spoil with the strong ; because he hath pored out his soul unto death : and he was numbered with the transgressor ; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Who is this About?
KJV in Isaiah 53
The Truth will set you free !
Christ means Messiah ,
Jesus was a Jew and still is . Jesus is not a religion,
Jesus Loves You
Believe ON The Lord Jesus Christ
You are Born Again
Believe as a child
Just Believe
RAPTURE Very SOON 😳
Thursday 25,2022
Or
28 , AV 5782
9:32 AM
Control time , has not happened yet , any Second
Are you Ready ,
Believe
Heaven or Outerdarkness
God will not hear your prayers that is hell.
CZcams : Rapture 2022
Ze-Chavalier, All the best to you and your family. May God bless.
@@louistart1173 "they come". He calls. We choose to follow. We have a will that was created to follow.
A Jew doesn't leave Judaism to become Christian, their faith is completed.
Jordan Peterson is actively pursuing God after his life-changing experience near nihilism last year. And his daughter is now a new Christian seeking understanding
Don’t be mistaken... many say the believe in “Christ”.. and that doesn’t mean they believe in Jesus as the Christians do. The Jews have a different understanding of that, than the Christians do.
@@jawknee13 JP is a lifelong CRIP who is moonlighting as a secular philosopher for the sake of being marketable.
You don't get that?
What’s a CRIP?
@@privatejr2702 I'm hawking the LA gang term to mean "Christ Rest in Peace". So, I am inferring that JP is a Christian who pretends to be merely interested in the religion on a philosophical level for amelioration purposes.
People pursuing God while God is in us and all around us.
We are made in image of God, we have been given moral law and commandments to follow, closer we follow closer we are to our God.
People have to think about God relations with us through a relation of us with or sons or daughters.
In essence it's so simple, but yet the world which is under evil made it complicated and very deceiving.
JP is trying, thinking, searching so hard meanwhile all he has to do is follow the law, commandments and righteousness and he will find God.
I recently started going to church with my girlfriend for a bit now, it’s so much more fulfilling of a life. I grew up in remnants of Catholicism without practice. Intellectual Agnostic was definitely how I saw myself. I am now a Christian.
Wonderful news, brother.
You came back to your roots(?):D
When you understand the Eucharist, you're home.
What good news! JESUS IS THE WAY AND THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE...NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY HIM...🙏 Follow JESUS and flea from sin🙏🕊❤👑
Praise God!
Following Jesus has completely changed me. Praise him!
Imagine a Muslim and an ex Muslim having a conversation with this politeness and professionalism. It would literally be the game of thrones
Instead, you get the Muslims either supporting or working towards the murder of ex-Muslims.
There are 1.8 billion Muslims in the world. To make an all encompassing statement about 1.8 billion people is silly. You are thinking about the radicals that receive all the attention; they are only a fraction of all Muslims.
It happened multiple times! though Judaism is not a religion in as much as its an ethnicity, so a Jew could be an atheist or agnostic and believe that the Bible is a myth, actually most Jews today are.
Plus an ex-Muslim motivated by Western propaganda will be the most abusive long before he starts a conversation with any Muslim, which is observed everywhere.
I still want Ben to have a show about finances, titled: All About The Benjamins 🙄
Ha! Sounds dope.
I want him to do a kind of shadow how to rival 60 mon.
Called 50 min.
Same format. IInterview with everyone.
Find our equal footing and have a conversation..
Fyi- We dont need that extra 10 min to obfuscate, twist and sugar coat the truth, like youknowwho.
That Title exists. 790 KABC
He likely won’t due to the stereotypes of his ethnicity. The second he makes that show, the Jewish money jokes come pouring in at an alarming rate. It would be a great show but would get the man harassed like crazy. I think he doesn’t because he’s prudent.
He could have Dave Ramsey guest star as a "Shapiro" personality.
What a brilliant conversation, and what a great testimony, Andrew!
😲🤫Tender Plant Lives
Hidden Message in the
Torah /Tanak / Bible
Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32
NAMES ---- Name
MEANINGS
Adam - Man
Seth - Appointed
Enos - Mortal
Cainan - Sarrow
Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD
Jared - Shall come Down
Enoch - Teaching
Methuselah -His Death shall
Bring
Lamech -To Make /Low
Mighity
Noah -Rest / Favor /
Fulfilled
Name Meanings written in a
Sentence 😳
Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down
teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED
My Interpretation:
Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔
Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲
Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God
Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened .
Who hath believed our report ? For and to whom is the arm of lord Lord revealed ?
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath
No form nor comeliness ; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
He is despised and rejected of men; a men of sorrows , and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised and we esteemed him not.
Surely he hath borne our grief , and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
He was oppressed, and he was
all .
He was oppressed , and he was afflicted , yet he opened not his mouth : he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter , and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openers not his mouth.
He was taken from prison
From judgment: and who shall declare this generation? For
He was cut off out of the land of the living: for he was cutting off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence , neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him ; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin he shall see his seed , he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
He shall see of the travail of his soul , and shall be satisfied : by
His knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many ; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore Will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the spoil with the strong ; because he hath pored out his soul unto death : and he was numbered with the transgressor ; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Who is this About?
KJV in Isaiah 53
The Truth will set you free !
Christ means Messiah ,
Jesus was a Jew and still is . Jesus is not a religion,
Jesus Loves You
Believe ON The Lord Jesus Christ
You are Born Again
Believe as a child
Just Believe
RAPTURE Very SOON 😳
Thursday 25,2022
Or
28 , AV 5782
9:32 AM
Control time , has not happened yet , any Second
Are you Ready ,
Believe
Heaven or Outerdarkness
God will not hear your prayers that is hell.
CZcams : Rapture 2022
Klaven is a true thinker who articulates himself well.
The thing that I love about Andrew Klavan is that he is both honest and humble about the journey that led him to Christ. It is not easy to tread the path of despair and admit that you are in need of redemption from the clutches of your personal struggles.
This is the best part of why I love these conversations that the Daily Wire is having. Though they might differ in certain aspects of their worldviews, one thing is for sure: there is respect and a collegial spirit of desiring to understand the other party better.
God bless you both. To God be all the glory.
He didn’t mention Christ what are you talking about?
The quickest way to have a kid who grows up to be an atheist is to try and raise them with a faith you don't believe in.
Wiser words have rarely been spoken.
So True!!
That is not even close to being true.
Being presented with god and truth is not the same as somebody trying to instil their will upon a person for the sake of it.
Children who rebel against Christianity tend to be rebelling against their parents weak authority. And just sometimes a person is born to rebel just for the sake it.
@@bighands69 But you must admit , that there are some parents who try to be “Christians” and drag their kids to church every Sunday , but they are not fully spiritually invested in their Faith so they don’t grow spiritually in the Faith and they come across as either too conservative or too controlling or too hypocritical to their children and therefore, the children rebel against this.
Ofcourse, even Christian parents can’t always be “perfect Saints” all of the time and they too have their own hang ups , childhood issues, tempers, weaknesses and shortcomings, just like everybody else!
But there are some truly genuine and mild tempered Christians out there who foster good relations with their loved ones and then they reap the rewards of a good bond with their children.
This is a rare gem nowadays!
(I’m not a parent myself because I would honestly mess up my kids because I’m messed up myself - but at least one can be honest about it and know their limitations)
I love tadanott300 statement. That is so powerful,. We must live our faith openly and honestly.
Question: "Why did you convert from Judaism to Christianity?"
Klavan: "I have an obsession with things making sense."- Great comment on the New Testament.
The New does not make sense without the Old.
The 1st commandment never changed to include a human being. The great deception of Christianity. Worshipping a man as God Almighty is an abomination of the highest order as Jesus, the son of MAN clearly warned not to be deceived by. He said not to be deceived by a false image created by Rome the harlot in Revelation. Yet 2 billion believe the great lie. Only now is this false image being revealed to those who can hear the Fathers WORDS spoken by MEN as his representative in the earth. Just like Jesus said. He spoke FOR the father not himself.
@@RoseSharon7777 Hi! Jesus is God. He also said: I am the path, the truth and the life. (Jn 14:6), I am the good shepherd, (Jn 10:11), Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father.(Jn 14:9), before Abraham was born, I am!”(Jn 8:58), I am the Messiah (Jn 4:25-26) (Mark 14:61-64) and I can continue for hours, Jesus IS GOD, is THE VERB, THE SAVIOR. I hope you can get to know Him, to know THE truth, if you deny the trinity, you deny the Word of God. Have a good day.
@@tatianam9938 He was speaking FOR the father. If you knew the OT you'd know the father is the great shepherd of your soul. Psalms 23. The SPOKEN WORD of God is the path, the light, the way. Not a human being. You are deceived.
@@RoseSharon7777 Because I know the O.T. Is that I believe in Jesus, He is the savior, you can see him all through out the O.T. Isaiah 53 is the great example of a prophecy of Christ. He became human to live the perfect life no one can live, to die in a crux to receive the punishment of your sins and my sins, and he resurrected as the first one, as our hope, as our savior. You answer with one phrase don’t even know the verse, I can see that you do not know the word of God, and how can be if you deny Jesus, God almighty Himself. Jesus is not only human, but also 100% GOD. Isaiah 9:6 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given,and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Zechariah 9:9 Rejoice greatly, Daughter Zion! Shout, Daughter Jerusalem! See, your king comes to you,righteous and victorious,lowly and riding on a donkey,on a colt, the foal of a donkey. Micah 5:2 "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, little one to be among the families of Judah, out of you shall come forth to me one who shall be Lord in Israel; and his goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting." And again I can continue for hours, the whole Bible is the history of Jesus Christ. Repent and believe. He die for you and me, pray to God to open your eyes and broke your heart so the light of His son can shine in you. I’ll pray for you. Have a good day.
How refreshing ....2 intelligent grown men, with different views, exchanging ideas and respecting each other.....this is life!!
Studying and believing the Christian message is eminently logical and rational. Or in Klavan's words "I just tend to believe things that make sense".
How is christianity logical and rational?
Does this make sense brother??
Here is some truths to look into.
How did Judas die? Matthew 27:5 (HANGED himself), Acts 1:18 (Fell headlong and burst his guts open)... What? Which one is true?
Who was the Father of Joseph?
Matthew 1:15 (Jacob) and Luke 3:23 (Heli)... What? Which one is true?
Exodus 21 : 20 - 21
(20 “When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. 21 But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money)
So beating your slave is no crime and it's ok? 🤔
You're adorable...
Right. A god who creates a son who is really just another manifestation of himself, who comes to earth to pray to himself so that human beings can be saved from himself makes all the sense in the world.
This is an interesting talk, but the title feels like clickbait. He doesn't explain why exactly he chose Christianity or why he left Judaism for it.
Exactly
If you go to his more complete testimony at One for Israel's channel, he says, "It wasn't until I was baptized that I really became a Jew." So yes, it's kind of clickbait because one certainly doesn't have to "leave Judaism" to come into Judeo-Christianity. Unfortunately it was the Christians who left Judaism in the 4th Century and lost the very source of depth and nourishment that come from the "root".
@@carolepoysti3810 he was never a religious Jew anyways.
If you watch Jordan Peterson's more recent stuff, he definitely seems to be coming round to the idea that Christ is real and true.
And his daughter also accepted Christ and we should pray for Peterson too🙏
not at all; he does not even believe in god, let alone man-god
@@whousa642 "Coming around" implies that he doesn't believe but is changing his mind. Your input is unnecessary and just a way of justifying your own folly.
@@whousa642 you should go and tell your kids about that not us.
@@JUSTFORFUN-gv5ot // nonsense
Well that’s ok, I took the opposite path from Christianity to conversion to Judaism. Judaism is not always an easy religion to love, but the G-d of Israel is my rock and my redeemer, and I follow where He leads me. Sometimes I think He is less concerned with the labels and more concerned with placing you where you’ll receive what you need for spiritual growth.
It makes more sense but it is a difficult religion to practice. I’m not as pious, so I haven’t converted to Judaism.
@@MysterEarl it makes less sense historically. In 70AD the temple was abolished. The messiah who the jewish people expected either came before that and the OT religion is true or he didn’t come and the OT religion was wrong.
@@arminius504 When OT compared to NT, OT should make more sense mathematically by laws of probability since the truthfulness of NT is dependent on truthfulness of OT. But let’s also remember that the scriptures were written in different genres. Not everything is to be read historically. Crime and Punishment is a work of fiction but coneys truths and lessons. Even Little Red Riding Hood and Peter Pan have similar value.
Here’s why Christianity is the logical next step after Judaism:
1) God created the universe and created man in His image. This is the first step to our relationship with God. (Family with God)
2) God creates woman. This is the first step to our relationship with each other. (The human family)
3) God makes a covenant with Noah. This is the first step to reconciliation with God.
4) God makes a covenant with Abraham. This is the first step to creating a people of God. (Many people, one family)
5) God makes a covenant with Moses, which is fulfilled in Joshua. This is the step toward God making a nation of God, which is where we get God’s CHOSEN people, and essentially when Judaism is built.
6) God establishes a Kingdom with David, and a priesthood (the step toward maintaining both a nation, which is the perpetuation of human relationships, and a priesthood, to perpetuate the relationship between God and man.)
7) God becomes incarnate in Jesus Christ and establishes a new Church and a new covenant to mediate between God and man, thereby closing the gap between man’s kingdom and God’s Kingdom.
For this reason, the chosen people of God are those who would follow in the Church established by Christ, just as God created man, family, covenant, nation, kingdom, priesthood, and Church.
Just as God told Moses to slaughter a lamb, eat it, and cover the entrance of their homes with its blood, so too must we take and eat the slaughtered Lamb of God, His Son, reflected in the sacrifice of Abraham’s son, with a ram taking Isaac’s place, Jesus takes our place, and becomes the Passover lamb. This is the connection we have of being FORMERLY the Jewish people, now fulfilled as Christian people, no longer only a family, a nation, or a Kingdom, but a UNIVERSAL people, spread throughout the entire world, being prepared to enter into the Kingdom of God.
@@dinopad10 Entitled to your opinion but you get in very shaky territory with #7. Sounds a whole lot like the very anthropomorphic Greco-Roman gods.
This is why I'm a fan of the daily wire. Although I disagree on many fundamental things they're honest about their bias and very objective and because of conversations like these. 2 men disagree on faith but still able to sit together and have a conversation. Brilliant example of honesty and integrity.
"to live as if there is a God is to want the conclusions of a syllogism whose premises you do not accept" is an amazing line. gained massive respect for him with that.
Yeah, I'm going to have to remember that one too. What a great way to phrase it.
I wish I was smart enough to understand it! Lol
@@lisadakar9928 syllogism example: if x is true, y is true. x is true. therefore y is true. you must accept that x is true to get y and the results or benefits of y. he was saying that people want all the benefits of God existing (logic, morality, coherence, etc) without believing He exists. "if x is true, y is true" is the premise they don't believe.
something like if God is real, morality is real. God is real therefore morality is real. or If God is false, morality is false. God is false therefore morality is false. things like that.
@@WhoNeedzaName Prove logic, morality, and coherence are creations of a God, and not merely of Man.
@@redmen2822 I don't need to prove it. what an ignorant thing to say. there's copious amounts of philosophically and logically valid arguments that demonstrate the accuracy of the claim. you would actually have to prove them invalid or reject the axioms. read more.
Very nice testimony, though I wish Andrew would have given more detail about why he chose Christianity instead of Judaism in particular. The only conclusion he came up to was that God is real... Ok, but what about Jesus?
He talks about Jesus a lot in his memoir, "The Great Good Thing" - it's worth the read.
Yeah, zero discussion of either one
@@tzadiko In his memoir he talks about his journey from Judaism to atheism , to agnosticism with "Zinn Meditation" practices, ultimately to Christianity. You really should read his memoir, "The Great Good Thing" to understand more fully his beliefs and testimony- spoiler alert he ultimately believes in Christ.
@@ValentinoDagher Thank you. I'm going to get the book.
Read The Great Good Thing and he has a talk you can find on CZcams
I love Andrew Klavan’s story of salvation.
Western civilization can only survive if we allow more conversations like this one: two people talking about their different views, but united by good will and intellectual honesty.
I think western civilization can only survive if we turn back to God and turn away from our wicked ways.
This used to be the rule, not the exception :(
His explanation is much better in his video for “One for Israel”.
Wow! Two smart men discussing an important question of life.
@Daryl Brown You spelled your right. I am jelly.
Andrew Klavan, the first time I ever heard your name was watching your testimony on @One for Israel. I appreciate both you and Ben. May God continue to bless your testimony for Jesus christ.
I just came across Klaven from watching his testimony, and wow, GOD never disappoint!!
Jesus Christ is the Way,True and Life.
Ben will need to come about or his future isn't going to be pleasant.
No... Old Testament only
@@therubicon
There is an old Jewish expression,
"Talk is cheap, people are judged by deeds."
Ben will be judged his deeds, and he will be judged very favorable.
@@hyacinthlynch843 unless he bends the knee to Christ he ain't going to get anything! The Jews were rejected. As a people just being born Jewish will not save you anymore you have to accept the Messiah. Just like I have just like Andrew has.
@@therubicon
As a Jew you have to obey God's precepts, just as Jesus himself would have done.
With each day, Andrew Klavan becomes more impressive. His comment about how fiction actually works is brilliant. He even appears in a poem I recently wrote. : )
How many E's did you put in Klavan?
@@sirobnole I left out the implicit E for excellent.
Per say .
With respect, but his idea that fiction doesn't create anything, but instead describes reality, is completely ass-backward.
And his example about money just reinforces that: "money describes the value of a person", yeah, but that "value" is entirely fictional, it's a system we ourselves created out of thin air.
Because monetary value is fictional, because it only exists to those that believe in it.
To a peasant from the Dark Ages, your stack of papers bills means nothing, and conversely, did Vercingetorix not have any value, because the Celts did not use money?
@@wiederganger1959 well I can not agree with your ass backward interpretation. Money is with the false world but human ingenuity to ask questions and explore future horizons may contribute something that is wanted by the masses, and may increase a personal wealth in their efforts, but that's not the power. Human minds and ideas are God given gifts. What man does with those talents goes with him and his Creator. But maybe it's that Creator idea is more the problem. SHTF non of us are of any value.
I am a 29 year old woman (a real one) and Andrew is my spirit animal.
Real women make regular men move mountains ... for them women ...
and that's the way it should be
'cause together we'll stand, divided we'll fal
"why I left atheism for Christianity" would have been a better title
Except he didn't leave atheism for Christianity. He's explained that he believed in God but embraced no religion until God told him to get baptized.
Sure, then agnosticism to Christianity. But hey, still an amazing testimony
Mad respect for both of you guys. I could listen to Klavan all day.
Great conversation.
I’d pay good money to see debate between Andrew Klavan and Ricky Gervais
Yeah, but problem with that is you would have to listen to Ricky Gervais *barf*
Gervais is nowhere near an intellectual level of Andrew. He is very funny I do admit. I know he was talking to Dawkins, but that was a bit silly. Let's meet and find out how much we agree with each other. Dawkins is very dishonest person in general.
@@ALavaPenguin Gervais is amazing.
Klavan is not a theologian. It would be like two 60 year olds boxing. That didn’t box professionally.
Ricky Gervais doesn't debate, he just mocks
Really incredible to hear the methods in which God enters people’s lives. Incredible testimony
I find this very interesting because i spent 5 years approx on weekly therapy that helped me tremendously but i reached a point where not only I couldn’t go further but I had terrible panic attacks for the first time in my life and i had suicidal thoughts. At the absolute bottom of my life I met Jesus and it all showed me that no matter how hard i try on my own, it all leads to the same result without Him
Probably the best comment, which is why you only got three upvotes. People don't love Jesus at all, in fact they hate Him.
Andrew Klavan's journey is incredibly important to me... I hope he knows how many people listen closely to his words and think about his experience on this exact subject - as many of us (even relatively late in our lives) are traveling down a similar path of considering our faith and responsibilities to our family, ourselves and our god.
Ah, to have a Doctorate in Philosophy and actually get paid for it, PRICELESS!!!
For real
😲🤫Tender Plant Lives
Hidden Message in the
Torah /Tanak / Bible
Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32
NAMES ---- Name
MEANINGS
Adam - Man
Seth - Appointed
Enos - Mortal
Cainan - Sarrow
Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD
Jared - Shall come Down
Enoch - Teaching
Methuselah -His Death shall
Bring
Lamech -To Make /Low
Mighity
Noah -Rest / Favor /
Fulfilled
Name Meanings written in a
Sentence 😳
Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down
teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED
My Interpretation:
Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔
Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲
Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God
Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened .
Who hath believed our report ? For and to whom is the arm of lord Lord revealed ?
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath
No form nor comeliness ; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
He is despised and rejected of men; a men of sorrows , and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised and we esteemed him not.
Surely he hath borne our grief , and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
He was oppressed, and he was
all .
He was oppressed , and he was afflicted , yet he opened not his mouth : he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter , and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openers not his mouth.
He was taken from prison
From judgment: and who shall declare this generation? For
He was cut off out of the land of the living: for he was cutting off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence , neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him ; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin he shall see his seed , he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
He shall see of the travail of his soul , and shall be satisfied : by
His knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many ; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore Will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the spoil with the strong ; because he hath pored out his soul unto death : and he was numbered with the transgressor ; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Who is this About?
KJV in Isaiah 53
The Truth will set you free !
Christ means Messiah ,
Jesus was a Jew and still is . Jesus is not a religion,
Jesus Loves You
Believe ON The Lord Jesus Christ
You are Born Again
Believe as a child
Just Believe
RAPTURE Very SOON 😳
Thursday 25,2022
Or
28 , AV 5782
9:32 AM
Control time , has not happened yet , any Second
Are you Ready ,
Believe
Heaven or Outerdarkness
God will not hear your prayers that is hell.
CZcams : Rapture 2022
Honestly, Klaven didn't really ever experience Judaism, only a knock off version, and I would love to watch him explain why he chose Orthodox Christianity over Orthodox Judaism.
"The problem to be faced is: How to combine loyalty to one's own tradition with reverence for different traditions.
- Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
Wise man.
@Super Genius
Truth is what you believe. And we believe that G-D gave us commandments to obey.
My Greatmother was a Orthodox Jew, and my Grandmother believed that Jesus was the Messiah. I live my life trying to love everyone, and do my best to try understand other's. It's a daily struggle, and I love that feeling when I feel the Holy Spirit in my life.
Sir, you can't be an orthodox jew and believe J is your saviour. It is the first tenet of Judiasm that God is the only one we believe and and pray too. Perhaps she does everything that an Orthodox Jew does, but her beliefs ate definately not Orthodox.
@@brucheweinberger6863 the first christians were orthodox jews, christianity began as a jewish movement before it identified as a seperate religion
@@samuelmithran5586 Yes. Thank you for making the distiction.
If your grandmother is your mother's mother, than you, too, are Jewish.
@@samuelmithran5586 If Hitler was Jewish, would that mean Nazism was a Jewish movement? No, the mere fact that Jews were among the movement's founders does not mean it is true.
Did I miss something... Christianity without any mention of Christ whatsoever? Surely the journey from Judaism to Christianity merits at least a few words on the significance of Jesus Christ.
I was wondering the same thing!
Maybe this is just an excerpt? It doesn’t seem complete to me.
It's not the full episode. Im searching for it next. Im sure it will be as great as this clip.
Read his memoir, The Great, Good Thing. But I think growing up I was convinced that someone had to first know the name of Jesus before they could come to know Jesus, but I now don't believe that's exactly true. In Romans 1:20 Paul describes how it's possible for even distant pagans to reason from creation itself that there is a God, and to know something of his nature. I believe that's the path Andrew Klavan describes following. God can work through his created work, through his spoken words, and through the Living Word that was embodied by Jesus' earthly ministry. After all, wasn't creation itself made by the Word of God? How is that not a path to Christ through Christ?
@@brianhumphreys6275 This clip is titled KLAVAN: Why I Left Judaism for Christianity. As the fundamental difference between these two faiths is the person of Jesus of Nazareth and His claim to be the Christ, Son of the Living God; the savior of the world. It would seem impossible to answer this question without reference to Him.
In answer to the Romans reference. Paul starts with the general and then moves to the specific. Yes, everyone has a knowledge of God so none will have excuse on judgment day. As James states, even the demons believe and shudder.
But God sent His Son to show us the way to know God, as fully as we are known. How can we know someone if we never met them? Romans 10:14: How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone telling them?
Ben CRUSHED ONCE AGAIN! LOVELY INTERACTION 💪🕊
I'm an atheist, but when I read "The Karamazov Brothers" I could understand christian morality and even the struggles to be living by this standart, so I guess Dostoyevsky has this effect on many people
Some read Dostoyevsky and become convinced of a moral reality that can only be attributable to God ("Without God anything is possible"). The thinking goes like this: Morality must be real and how can it be if there is no God? The problem is that the reverse is just as true. If there IS a God, then anything is possible -- and anything done at God's command or pursuant to His "law" is good and moral.
Klavan walked the road to Damascus. Klavan realized that Christ is the true messiah. I pray Ben has the same conversion.
Ben understands too much Hebrew to fall for the deliberate corruptions of the Hebrew bible which Christianity is built upon.
never
Yes💞
@@stephenduke7494 humble yourself and open your mind to actually looking into whether Christianity is true or not. Don’t go into it with the preconceived biases against Christ, but genuinely seek out the truth and test your beliefs. Your eternity depends on this truth, so don’t dismiss Jesus Christ out of spite but actually research whether He fulfilled all that was foretold of Him in the law and prophets. Look and see if the message of New Testament books has truly been preserved in thousands of manuscripts that say the same thing about Christ. I challenge you to present actual historical facts that refute the life and work of Jesus Christ and His fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy.
@@stephenduke7494 Jesus Christ is the Subject of Isaiah 53.
The second half of Isaiah portrays Israel as the failed Servant of Jehovah. Some of the harshest criticisms of Israel's wickedness in the Bible is found in Isaiah. Against that, is another Servant Who is righteous enough to bear the sins of the world.He is called Israel, and yet is seen as being distinct from Israel, and alongside Israel. His worldwide effect is marked by being the light of the Gentiles, bringing Jehovah's salvation to the ends of the world, bringing many to righteousness, bringing healing to the nations, being an astonishment to the Gentiles for His suffering for our sins.
This is describing, not the general righteous of Israel, but One, the most righteous of Israel, King Messiah, Jesus of Nazareth. None of these worldwide effects can be attributed to the general righteous of Israel. Yet they happened, and are still happening. Jesus healed me, and is healing me of my wickedness to this day. He has and is healing millions around the world.
God bless you Andrew. Better late than never-I can relate to you testimony! Thanks for sharing!
😲🤫Tender Plant Lives
Hidden Message in the
Torah /Tanak / Bible
Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32
NAMES ---- Name
MEANINGS
Adam - Man
Seth - Appointed
Enos - Mortal
Cainan - Sarrow
Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD
Jared - Shall come Down
Enoch - Teaching
Methuselah -His Death shall
Bring
Lamech -To Make /Low
Mighity
Noah -Rest / Favor /
Fulfilled
Name Meanings written in a
Sentence 😳
Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down
teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED
My Interpretation:
Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔
Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲
Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God
Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened .
Who hath believed our report ? For and to whom is the arm of lord Lord revealed ?
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath
No form nor comeliness ; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
He is despised and rejected of men; a men of sorrows , and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised and we esteemed him not.
Surely he hath borne our grief , and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
He was oppressed, and he was
all .
He was oppressed , and he was afflicted , yet he opened not his mouth : he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter , and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openers not his mouth.
He was taken from prison
From judgment: and who shall declare this generation? For
He was cut off out of the land of the living: for he was cutting off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence , neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him ; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin he shall see his seed , he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
He shall see of the travail of his soul , and shall be satisfied : by
His knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many ; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore Will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the spoil with the strong ; because he hath pored out his soul unto death : and he was numbered with the transgressor ; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Who is this About?
KJV in Isaiah 53
The Truth will set you free !
Christ means Messiah ,
Jesus was a Jew and still is . Jesus is not a religion,
Jesus Loves You
Believe ON The Lord Jesus Christ
You are Born Again
Believe as a child
Just Believe
RAPTURE Very SOON 😳
Thursday 25,2022
Or
28 , AV 5782
9:32 AM
Control time , has not happened yet , any Second
Are you Ready ,
Believe
Heaven or Outerdarkness
God will not hear your prayers that is hell.
CZcams : Rapture 2022
I pray that Ben comes to the same realizations as Klavan.
Great job of interviewing, staying relevant and actually listening to your guest, Ben. Most interviewers are so busy formulating their next question to listen to the answer from their last.
😲🤫Tender Plant Lives
Hidden Message in the
Torah /Tanak / Bible
Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32
NAMES ---- Name
MEANINGS
Adam - Man
Seth - Appointed
Enos - Mortal
Cainan - Sarrow
Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD
Jared - Shall come Down
Enoch - Teaching
Methuselah -His Death shall
Bring
Lamech -To Make /Low
Mighity
Noah -Rest / Favor /
Fulfilled
Name Meanings written in a
Sentence 😳
Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down
teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED
My Interpretation:
Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔
Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲
Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God
Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened .
Who hath believed our report ? For and to whom is the arm of lord Lord revealed ?
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath
No form nor comeliness ; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
He is despised and rejected of men; a men of sorrows , and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised and we esteemed him not.
Surely he hath borne our grief , and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
He was oppressed, and he was
all .
He was oppressed , and he was afflicted , yet he opened not his mouth : he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter , and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openers not his mouth.
He was taken from prison
From judgment: and who shall declare this generation? For
He was cut off out of the land of the living: for he was cutting off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence , neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him ; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin he shall see his seed , he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
He shall see of the travail of his soul , and shall be satisfied : by
His knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many ; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore Will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the spoil with the strong ; because he hath pored out his soul unto death : and he was numbered with the transgressor ; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Who is this About?
KJV in Isaiah 53
The Truth will set you free !
Christ means Messiah ,
Jesus was a Jew and still is . Jesus is not a religion,
Jesus Loves You
Believe ON The Lord Jesus Christ
You are Born Again
Believe as a child
Just Believe
RAPTURE Very SOON 😳
Thursday 25,2022
Or
28 , AV 5782
9:32 AM
Control time , has not happened yet , any Second
Are you Ready ,
Believe
Heaven or Outerdarkness
God will not hear your prayers that is hell.
CZcams : Rapture 2022
Thank God for Klavan. The wisest of the Daily Wire crew ✌️
That would be Knowles. Ironic because of his age but his wisdom is greater than the others'
I grew up Christian and converted to Judaism. I love the basic premise of Judaism that you have a direct relationship with G^d and it is not enough to just believe but it is essential to also understand.
This is also confusing to me. It could just as easily be said if you converted from Judaism to Christianity.
Jesus said whoever denies the Son does not have the father.
Andrew Klavan was never practicing the Jewish religion, so the title is misleading. you cannot leave something you never really a part of. His family were secular Jewish (practicing some of the traditions and culture) without the spiritual practice. What he really left was secular Judaism, to become an agnostic, he then left agnosticism to become a Christian.
@@trevbarlow9719 No, because Christianity states that you have to believe in Jesus in order to come to the Father. Judaism obviously states no such thing. Every Jew has a direct ''line of communication'' to God, there is no need for an intermediary such as Jesus.
@@robmancuso964 I don't think you quite understand what Christians believe.
I grew up Roman Catholic, but I am more traditionalist than my family and most of the people around me. I think intellectually like Klavan, and searched around for more traditionalistic sects of Christianity from 18 to about 22 or 23 (im 26 now). What brought me back to Roman Catholicism is 1- I believe in the Corporal Works of Mercy, as you can be extremely devout spiritually but if you do not do acts of mercy towards others then you are committing sins of omission and you are not contributing to the betterment of society. 2- I believe in free will (contra to predestination), and especially follow Christ's phrase of "when you fast do not look downtrodden and disheveled to show that you are fasting" and the readings of Wisdom "Do not say: 'He himself has led me astray,' for he has no need of the wicked.". 3- I believe that Mary, the Mother of Jesus, is not solely whom we must implore to converse with Jesus and God, but we can converse with them directly, but Mary is considered the Queen of Heaven and is above the saints and angels.
You Can’t Handel the Truth OR
Can you Handle the Truth
4 REASONS YOU SHOULD NOT PRAY TO MARY
1. THERE IS ONLY ONE MEDIATOR
1 Timothy 2:5 says, There is one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity-the man Christ Jesus.
This confirms we don’t need a “go-between.” We don’t need a middle-man (or woman) beyond Christ.
When Jesus died, shed His blood, and was raised from the dead the need to have someone (e.g. high priest) represent us was ripped away just like the curtain that tore from top to bottom.
2. GOD ALONE SHOULD BE WORSHIPPED
Luke 4:8 says, Jesus replied, “The Scriptures say, ‘You must worship the Lord your God and serve only him.’”
Praying to Mary and/or any living or deceased saints is an act of worship…which is reserved for God alone.
When Jesus modeled prayer (Matthew 6:7-13) He began with, “Our Father in Heaven.” No where in Scripture is it suggested that we pray to Mary or any other deceased saints.
3. MARY WORSHIPPED JESUS AS GOD
In Acts 1 the disciples and about 120 believers were in an upper room waiting for the promise of the Holy Spirit (at Jesus’ command). Guess who was present with them? Mary. What was she doing? Praying.
Acts 1:14 says, They all met together and were constantly united in prayer, along with Mary the mother of Jesus, several other women, and the brothers of Jesus.
It’s important to note that the apostles weren’t praying to Mary as a go between. She was joined with them in prayer…to GOD.
4. MARY WAS A SINNER IN NEED OF A SAVIOR
According to Psalm 51:5 we are all born as sinners in need of a Savior, Mary included.
Mary was highly favored, not sinless. There is not one scripture to support that Mary was without sin. JESUS is the only one who never sinned (2 Corinthians 5:21, Hebrews 4:15, 1 Peter 2:22) which explains why Mary had to be impregnated by the Holy Spirit.
Extras
• The Bible is about JESUS, after all Jesus is the Living Word (John 1:14). The Old Testament points to JESUS. The New Testament is about Jesus. The authors of the four Gospels saw JESUS as the central figure and only mention Mary in reference to JESUS. The word “Jesus” is mentioned 1,478 times in the New Testament. The word “Mary” is only mentioned 55 times and some of those are in reference to Mary Magdalene. Also, Jesus is referenced in 26 of 27 New Testament books.
• Mary can’t hear you. Only God can hear all of our prayers as He is the only one omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.
• Mary was not even recognized in Scripture as a leader in the early Church. Peter is the one who stood up, addressed the crowd, and preached in Acts 1, not Mary.
• JESUS is the only Way, Truth, and Life. No one can come to the Father, except through JESUS.
• The TRUE second commandment: Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me You Can’t Handel the Truth OR
Can you Handle the Truth
4 REASONS YOU SHOULD NOT PRAY TO MARY
1. THERE IS ONLY ONE MEDIATOR
1 Timothy 2:5 says, There is one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity-the man Christ Jesus.
This confirms we don’t need a “go-between.” We don’t need a middle-man (or woman) beyond Christ.
When Jesus died, shed His blood, and was raised from the dead the need to have someone (e.g. high priest) represent us was ripped away just like the curtain that tore from top to bottom.
2. GOD ALONE SHOULD BE WORSHIPPED
Luke 4:8 says, Jesus replied, “The Scriptures say, ‘You must worship the Lord your God and serve only him.’”
Praying to Mary and/or any living or deceased saints is an act of worship…which is reserved for God alone.
When Jesus modeled prayer (Matthew 6:7-13) He began with, “Our Father in Heaven.” No where in Scripture is it suggested that we pray to Mary or any other deceased saints.
3. MARY WORSHIPPED JESUS AS GOD
In Acts 1 the disciples and about 120 believers were in an upper room waiting for the promise of the Holy Spirit (at Jesus’ command). Guess who was present with them? Mary. What was she doing? Praying.
Acts 1:14 says, They all met together and were constantly united in prayer, along with Mary the mother of Jesus, several other women, and the brothers of Jesus.
It’s important to note that the apostles weren’t praying to Mary as a go between. She was joined with them in prayer…to GOD.
4. MARY WAS A SINNER IN NEED OF A SAVIOR
According to Psalm 51:5 we are all born as sinners in need of a Savior, Mary included.
Mary was highly favored, not sinless. There is not one scripture to support that Mary was without sin. JESUS is the only one who never sinned (2 Corinthians 5:21, Hebrews 4:15, 1 Peter 2:22) which explains why Mary had to be impregnated by the Holy Spirit.
Extras
• The Bible is about JESUS, after all Jesus is the Living Word (John 1:14). The Old Testament points to JESUS. The New Testament is about Jesus. The authors of the four Gospels saw JESUS as the central figure and only mention Mary in reference to JESUS. The word “Jesus” is mentioned 1,478 times in the New Testament. The word “Mary” is only mentioned 55 times and some of those are in reference to Mary Magdalene. Also, Jesus is referenced in 26 of 27 New Testament books.
• Mary can’t hear you. Only God can hear all of our prayers as He is the only one omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.
• Mary was not even recognized in Scripture as a leader in the early Church. Peter is the one who stood up, addressed the crowd, and preached in Acts 1, not Mary.
• JESUS is the only Way, Truth, and Life. No one can come to the Father, except through JESUS.
• The TRUE second commandment: Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me
😳 Joseph and Mary
Easy to Understand Blood Line
Point where Blood lines touch
How , where
GOD
Abraham Abraham
David David
(Parental ) ( Maternal )
Line Line
Solomon👈🏽brothers👉🏽Nathan
100%
Inter marriage
Shealtiel Shealtiel
Zerubbabel Zerubbabel
Sons of
Zerubbabel’s
Abiud 👈🏽 👉🏽 Rhesa
Son in law to 👉🏽Heli
Joseph 👈🏽 Virgin Mary
Seed!
Jesus was born !
Holy Sprit provided the Male
Side BY GOD
Short Version
Blood line of JESUS
Basic Guidelines
Mary does have Joseph blood
Through her relationship as family.
God Provided male Side
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Came 200 years
Before The Rabbinic New Testament
Which on should be used the oldest or the newest 🤔
Different City’s
1.Jesus was Born Bethlehem
2. Joseph Warned in a dream , went to Egypt there they lived , until the king died.
3 . Nazareth, where HE was called a Nazarean
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The Bible New Testament with Jesus
Came 200 years
Before The Rabbinic New Testament
Which on should be used the oldest or the newest 🤔
Different City’s
1.Jesus was Born Bethlehem
2. Joseph Warned in a dream , went to Egypt there they lived , until the king died.
3 . Nazareth, where HE was called a Nazarean
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Wow, well done Ben! Great guest! Lord Jesus bless you!
I bet this will be an inspiring story.
A another tale of conversion to Christianity without mention of Christ… unless the clip is left wanting due to the editors?
@Nathaniel J. Franco Protestants believe Christ is all that’s needed to save you. Catholics believe a priest has to sign off on it first. Who’s without Christ?
@@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193 I mean Klavan some times reffers to himself as catholic he is Anglican so hes not much of a protestant.
The title should have been, "Klavan comes to believe in God...." If you know Klavan, you know he accepts Christ too; however, you are correct, Christ was not mentioned or edited out.
You are exactly right, I have heard
Klavan speak before , he has his own " brand" of Christianity. His son is gay and he ( Klavan) doesnt accept or agree with the God of the Bible condemning that lifestyle. Can he really be a Christian if you pick and choose? He makes his own God.
@@mariodatguy4988 he specifically rejects the authority of the Pope. What more do you need?
Thank you for broadcasting such an intriguing conversation. Some of your comments struck a resonance in my own mind and helped me have confidence that my own recent transformation of belief from scientism to Catholicism was the right switch to make.
The modern world and its academic classes have lied and warped the culture. Science is perfectly in line with religion.
The academic classes that try to warp society constantly bang on about the age of enlightenment but what they leave out is that the age of enlightenment was born out of religion. Robert Boyle was a devout christian as was Francis Bacon.
To be a liberal means that person must practice Life, liberty and estate as a core set of everyday values. And that philosophy is from natural law.
@@bighands69 Hello. Thank you for making those valid comments. (P.S. It is also interesting to see that you have an interest in the martial arts.)
🤫😉
Tender Plant Lives
Hidden Message in the
Torah /Tanak / Bible
Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32
NAMES ---- Name
MEANINGS
Adam - Man
Seth - Appointed
Enos - Mortal
Cainan - Sarrow
Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD
Jared - Shall come Down
Enoch - Teaching
Methuselah -His Death shall
Bring
Lamech -To Make /Low
Mighity
Noah -Rest / Favor /
Fulfilled
Name Meanings written in a
Sentence 😳
Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down
teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED
My Interpretation:
Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔
Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲
Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God
Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened .
Who hath believed our report ? For and to whom is the arm of lord Lord revealed ?
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath
No form nor comeliness ; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
He is despised and rejected of men; a men of sorrows , and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised and we esteemed him not.
Surely he hath borne our grief , and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
He was oppressed, and he was
all .
He was oppressed , and he was afflicted , yet he opened not his mouth : he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter , and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openers not his mouth.
He was taken from prison
From judgment: and who shall declare this generation? For
He was cut off out of the land of the living: for he was cutting off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence , neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him ; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin he shall see his seed , he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
He shall see of the travail of his soul , and shall be satisfied : by
His knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many ; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore Will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the spoil with the strong ; because he hath pored out his soul unto death : and he was numbered with the transgressor ; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Who is this About?
KJV in Isaiah 53
The Truth will set you free !
Christ means Messiah ,
Jesus was a Jew and still is . Jesus is not a religion,
Jesus Loves You
Believe ON The Lord Jesus Christ
You are Born Again
Believe as a child
Just Believe
RAPTURE Very SOON 😳
Thursday 25,2022
Or
28 , AV 5782
9:32 AM
Control time , has not happened yet , any Second
Are you Ready ,
Believe
Heaven or Outerdarkness
God will not hear your prayers that is hell.
CZcams : Rapture 2022
Ben seems more bothered by “socialists” than by those who leave the faith.
The one who left the faith in this case is still God loving, harmless intellectual who wishes the good of the other. Socialists on the other hand are mostly Godless, narcissistic, nihilistic people who go as far as accepting, tolerating and imposing the general misery (hell) and trying to fool others by justifying it as the equality.
@@arbencukaj5520 harmless? He put his testimony on the one for israel missionary channel.
Probably because socialism almost has a prerequisite of leaving the faith, thereby being a greater threat, due to its current cultural attraction, especially to young people. If a person leaves the faith on their own accord, it’s simply a matter of personal growth. Socialism, on the other hand, is a herd mentality that gathers “followers” like a plague, and it’s construct is based on taking away the faith of nations.
Ben as a liberaterian goes by the rule do what you want as long as it doesn't harm me. Apostates are harmless (at least in Andrew's case). Socialists harm others because they want that to be the law.
@C.W But isn’t he an Orthodox Jew?
Yes!!! This took a LOOOOONG time. I'm sure this is just the first On Camera conversation. Keep going Andrew and may God help you and guide you in your testimony!!
This is from one of Ben's first "Sunday Special" shows from 3-4 years back, just an excerpt. It's all worth the time if you search it up and view the whole thing.
😲🤫Tender Plant Lives
Hidden Message in the
Torah /Tanak / Bible
Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32
NAMES ---- Name
MEANINGS
Adam - Man
Seth - Appointed
Enos - Mortal
Cainan - Sarrow
Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD
Jared - Shall come Down
Enoch - Teaching
Methuselah -His Death shall
Bring
Lamech -To Make /Low
Mighity
Noah -Rest / Favor /
Fulfilled
Name Meanings written in a
Sentence 😳
Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down
teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED
My Interpretation:
Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔
Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲
Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God
Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened .
Who hath believed our report ? For and to whom is the arm of lord Lord revealed ?
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath
No form nor comeliness ; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
He is despised and rejected of men; a men of sorrows , and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised and we esteemed him not.
Surely he hath borne our grief , and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
He was oppressed, and he was
all .
He was oppressed , and he was afflicted , yet he opened not his mouth : he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter , and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openers not his mouth.
He was taken from prison
From judgment: and who shall declare this generation? For
He was cut off out of the land of the living: for he was cutting off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence , neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him ; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin he shall see his seed , he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
He shall see of the travail of his soul , and shall be satisfied : by
His knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many ; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore Will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the spoil with the strong ; because he hath pored out his soul unto death : and he was numbered with the transgressor ; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Who is this About?
KJV in Isaiah 53
The Truth will set you free !
Christ means Messiah ,
Jesus was a Jew and still is . Jesus is not a religion,
Jesus Loves You
Believe ON The Lord Jesus Christ
You are Born Again
Believe as a child
Just Believe
RAPTURE Very SOON 😳
Thursday 25,2022
Or
28 , AV 5782
9:32 AM
Control time , has not happened yet , any Second
Are you Ready ,
Believe
Heaven or Outerdarkness
God will not hear your prayers that is hell.
CZcams : Rapture 2022
The title of this video is misleading. Klavan did not "leave" Judaism. He was never exposed to Judaism. He left secular ethnic nothingness and found meaning in Christianity.
They are all routes to god.
@@bighands69 No. For a Jew, Torah is the only route.
Micah, at the end times when all the nations are coming to Jerusalem and recognizing the one true God, his Torah, and his people Israel:
"Let all the peoples walk each one in the name of its god, but we will walk in the name of the Lord our God for ever and ever."
There are many paths. How sad that Andrew threw away the real thing for a counterfeit.
@alakabetz: Exactly.
@@leeannep.7652 Christianity is Judaism in its fullest form. Try reading the Hebrew Scriptures with the New Testament Scriptures critically and see the similarities and also fulfillment of God’s promises in the New.
@@loganw1232 I’ve read them and came to conclude: Christianity flourished only because it satisfied the political requirements of Rome not the Jewish requirements of the messiah.
If the promised messiah already came, there would be peace on earth and everyone would believe in God.
Several books to read:
When Prophecy Fails - about cognitive dissonance of avid believers
Misquoting Jesus
How Jesus Became God
The Mystery Cults
He explains how he came back to God, but didn’t really explain his move to Christianity, as opposed to Judaism.
@Dhjeff Hhinckelle no they are not lol
@Dhjeff Hhinckelle I'm an Orthodox Jew my dude...Christianity is not a "Jewish" religion
@Dhjeff Hhinckelle Well, sort of, but the video title is “KLAVAN: Why I left Judaism for Christianity.” Shapiro himself proclaims in the video that the religions are “very separate places”.
@Dhjeff Hhinckelle Ahh, I see. You only came to mock the believers. I hope in the end your heart can change. Peace be with you.
@Dhjeff Hhinckelle I'm an orthodox Jew. According to our understanding of the Torah(Old Testament) Christianity goes against G-d's will and is considered idol worship Worshiping a man, or claiming that G-d physical in any way. This understanding of Jewish law dates from long before J was born, which is why the Jews never accepted his ideology.
I wish someone with real understanding of halacha would have reached you and explained these concepts. You would come to the conclusion that the deepness and logical approach judaism offers cannot be found anywhere else. רפואה שלמה.
Where else have you looked?
Well stated! 👍🏻
maybe if you studied all religions and did not limit yourself to only one point of view you would come to deeper and more logical conclusions?
"Why I left Judaism for Christianity."
BACON.
Bacon 🥓 totally rocks!
I'm a bad Jew who eats bacon.
That's not the only benefit of being a Christian.
@@NATIVEMANHATTANITE 😮🤭
I’m a Christian and I don’t eat bacon because God never said the law is done away with.
@@jordanlinehan7478 actually, He did. 1 Timothy 4 deals with it quite handily.
So you actually DIDN'T convert from judaism to christianity. you had some vague jewish cultural references in a basically atheistic home
Being Jewish is an ethnoreligious thing, with a strong emphasis on the ethno-part. Religiously, his home was atheistic, not particularly Jewish - as you say - but to adopt another faith and particularly one whose adherents, at least in Europe, were vicious towards the Jewish People, is a pretty big deal.
What a beautiful discussion of faith. Thank you gentlemen. God bless you.
I was raised a strict Mormon. I am so lucky that my parent's were educated, and from 8yrs old, and mom would take me and my 4 brothers, to other religions. She knew her 5 children would learn about them, and then we grew up, we could make our own decisions.
IF Klavan could have had the opportunity to learn Torah, think of the possibilities....with his mind, his literary skills, what a great rabbi he would have been.
At best he'd have been like David Wolpe,, a well paid non orthodox rabbi that people like, that some say should have been a psychiatrist!
Great movie rabbi
There's always the possibility he could revert.
Andrew Klavan was never practicing the Jewish religion, so the title is misleading. you cannot leave something you never really a part of. His family were secular Jewish (practicing some of the traditions and culture) without the spiritual practice. What he really left was secular Judaism, to become an agnostic, he then left agnosticism to become a Christian.
@donaldseigel4101 he was Jewish but yes had he been orthodox there would have been a much higher likelihood he would not have become Christian
Good interview but I was expecting to hear about his journey from religious Judaism to Christianity. This is more of his journey from moral secularism to Christianity. There seemed to be little, or no, explanation as to why he chose Christianity over Judaism.
why do you believe a knowledgeable, religious Jew would seek to become a Christian?
@@marchess7420 I never made that claim. Did you misundestand my comment or are you trying to bait me into a debate?
@@DonBakke - that's the focus of your question. you wrote you were "expecting " to hear about it.
Yup
@@marchess7420 You misunderstood my comment. I wrote, "I was expecting *to hear* about his journey..." This journey is the very subject of this video (i.e., "Why I left Judaism for Christianity"). I don't think this can be much clearer. You rephrased my words to convey something different.
When I was younger my dad used to make me go to church on Sundays. I hated that. When I grew up there was always something missing. I went to church and the Holy Spirit told me to start praying and read the Bible. I didn’t understand a word so the Lord told me, pray and ask God to give you understanding. I did what He told me to do and understanding came like a miracle. I couldn’t put the Bible down. That’s when I learned HOW MUCH JESUS LOVES ME, The happiest day of my whole life. 🙏🏼
I can't believe how similar my journey has been to Andrew's. My family was never Jewish, in any sense, but I had to divide from them for faith reasons and others. So much of this happened to me also.
Same with me, growing up in religious home, as an adult, I came to the conclusion it was an acult more than Christianity. Because, I was so mislead, I didn't wait until I was vulnerable to find true meaning of Christ. When the Lord did lead me to Him. The power of Him was astounding. I never looked back.
What denomination was it?
Same with me?!
Klavan did not grow up in a religious home.
Crime and Punishment is the best work of fiction ever. Covers self-justification, relativism vs absolute morality, it also explains why punishment is good for us and why grace sets us free. Op top of that we can relate to the murderer in the book. Our fallen state is laid bare, our attempts to justify are void, justice does not redeem us, only true repentance met by grace. It is deep book everyone should read at least once.
Have you read the Brothers Karamazov?
@@rainking50 not yet. first Dostoyevsky I read as a teen was The Idiot. I found it when my Dad and I went trash picking. Read it through the night. The Brother Karamazov is on my list... I am just older and busier and TV is easy after a long days work.
This was an excellent intro to Klavan the man and his worldview, I'll watch the whole show now.
"I think to live as if there were God, is essentially to want the conclusions of the syllogisms whose premises you don't accept"
Andrew Klavan
agree this is a significant point
This doesn't really fit the title, but I liked this segment anyway.
Thank you for speaking the truth. That's the trouble with content providers these days, not one person has the courage to speak the whole truth.
Just threw away the marijuana and booze for good hopefully this time.
Was clean for about 6 years and got into medical marijuana and was eventually thrown back into the cycle again.
Thoughts and prayers please
Romans 10:17, " So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
This coversation demonstrates how rational and unthreatened Ben Shapiro truly is. Also, Klavan is impressive and inspiring.Good talk.
I've often thought the same about Peterson's take on things, but I have to also give him credit for broaching the subject in a way that makes it more relatable to non-religious people. The way he broke down the bible and other mythologies made them make sense on an intellectual level that didn't require faith.... and therefore made them much more approachable to people who are outside the faith. I like to think of his bible series as a gateway to understanding that shows people the way. It gets them started on the path, but isn't the destination.
Let's hope that like Klavan, and I believe, soon to follow Peterson, you also will have a crisis of faith, and must make a choice. You have it backwards. In the Bible the destination is what is important. The problem is getting lost on that path you mention.
Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one come to the Father except through me." John 14:6
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it."
Matthew 7:13
@@lilitincher4973 Not only did you miss the point, but you did exactly what so many non-religious people are aggravated by. You were just aching to preach the gospel and show people how devout you are that you couldn't even be bothered making sure you understood my point. And to top that off, you actually wished that I would have a "crisis of faith", which is a bad thing, so that through my suffering I might come to understand. It's that kind of attitude that drives people away, and exactly the opposite of what Peterson has accomplished with his series.
@@threeriversforge1997 But what the person said makes a lot of sense, whether I agree with it or not. The faith they describe is one arrived at not through rationale, but something else.
I think though in world where people are allowed to not believe in god this type of faith will become more and more rare. But hey we'll see, just my two cents.
@@cosmic0076 I'm not saying that you can't arrive at faith through "something else", but that far too often people are turned off faith from the outset because they look at it with what they believe is a logical eye. Peterson's work helped me to see through my own ignorance, not knowing facts or bringing up trains of thought I'd never considered. Because of that, my thought on religion is no longer as short-sighted as it once was.
A lot of the atheists I've met are very angry at religion, and sometimes for good reason. They might have asked the questions when they were little, but they got answers that were much like "Lili Tincher" said above. Wishing someone to have a "crisis of faith" so that they would understand... even when they don't understand themselves and couldn't be bothered to actually think outside the dogma. That is so very off-putting to people that it's no wonder the churches have seen a decline in membership over the years if paritioners act like that.
@@threeriversforge1997 Look I agree with you. But at the end of the day true faith sounds like something which requires you to abandon all logicale. And that's what that guy means when they're saying a crisis of faith.
I'm similar to you, very open minded and so when someone like JP comes along and investigates christianity and the biblical texts the way he does, it's educational, informative and perhaps makes me rather appreciative. I've even started to come to the conclusion that I may do believe in God, for instance I can't bring myself to say I don't believe in God, and in times of hardship whether for myself or others I pray, as if it's a manifestation of my hope. It's my religious instinct turning to this force I believe in. Maybe?
So even if it's off-putting, it doesn't mean that poster is wrong. Faith is a leap and rather irrational. It's more akin to a decision that you're going to live a certain way and that's that, in the way that I reject cynicism and talk that makes me a victim and that's that. It's a stand, it's a choice, but it's not logical, it's that there's no other way forward.
You're so remarkably bright, Klavan. I find you echo a lot of my thoughts (more articulate of course) and I really, truly enjoy your spiritual and philosophical insight above your political content. I need it now more than ever in college where I feel like I'm in a perpetual Dark Age. Please do more of this.
😲🤫Tender Plant Lives
Hidden Message in the
Torah /Tanak / Bible
Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32
NAMES ---- Name
MEANINGS
Adam - Man
Seth - Appointed
Enos - Mortal
Cainan - Sarrow
Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD
Jared - Shall come Down
Enoch - Teaching
Methuselah -His Death shall
Bring
Lamech -To Make /Low
Mighity
Noah -Rest / Favor /
Fulfilled
Name Meanings written in a
Sentence 😳
Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down
teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED
My Interpretation:
Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔
Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲
Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God
Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened .
Who hath believed our report ? For and to whom is the arm of lord Lord revealed ?
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath
No form nor comeliness ; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
He is despised and rejected of men; a men of sorrows , and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised and we esteemed him not.
Surely he hath borne our grief , and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
He was oppressed, and he was
all .
He was oppressed , and he was afflicted , yet he opened not his mouth : he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter , and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openers not his mouth.
He was taken from prison
From judgment: and who shall declare this generation? For
He was cut off out of the land of the living: for he was cutting off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence , neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him ; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin he shall see his seed , he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
He shall see of the travail of his soul , and shall be satisfied : by
His knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many ; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore Will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the spoil with the strong ; because he hath pored out his soul unto death : and he was numbered with the transgressor ; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Who is this About?
KJV in Isaiah 53
The Truth will set you free !
Christ means Messiah ,
Jesus was a Jew and still is . Jesus is not a religion,
Jesus Loves You
Believe ON The Lord Jesus Christ
You are Born Again
Believe as a child
Just Believe
RAPTURE Very SOON 😳
Thursday 25,2022
Or
28 , AV 5782
9:32 AM
Control time , has not happened yet , any Second
Are you Ready ,
Believe
Heaven or Outerdarkness
God will not hear your prayers that is hell.
CZcams : Rapture 2022
Mr.Klavan, by accepting Yeshua you are now a fulfilled Jew 💕
But, surely, there is no explanation of why Klavan embraced Christianity.
This is a 7 minute video about Christianity and Jesus the Messiah isn't mentioned once. Good job, guys.
Because Ben as a Jew doesn't believe Jesus is the messiah.
Yeah was looking for the reason he became a Christ follower the whole video and all he explained was his deism, not his acceptance of the gospel.
@@aaronpetersen2736 Well, facts don't care about his feelings.
@@TheTenCentStory but his feelings are right, and fact based.
@@bennywolfe4357 How so?
Crime and Punishment is the most powerful fiction book I have ever read.
Yessss!!!!!!
Every Dostoevsky book I've read thus far has brought me to tears.
@@maurice5402 Absolutely. He truly was a literary genius. Brothers Karamazov is a masterpiece as well.
God bless you Klavan!
What a GREAT conversation!
Absolutely loved this👑❤
"To live as though there were a god is essentially to want the conclusions of a syllogism whose premises you don't accept." -Andrew Klavan.
What a great quote.
I thought that was a particularly terrific insight, as well.
Maybe you can explain what it means?
@@anameichose8854 Klavan is saying the two people he mentioned (JP and Marcello Pera) want all of the benefits of God without having to accept the reasons leading to the reality of God's existence. In a syllogism, there are premises that lead to a conclusion dependent on the premises listed. It is a form of deductive reasoning. For example, Premise 1: A=B. Premise 2: B=C. Conclusion, therefore: A=C.
So applied here, the conclusion is that the West has flourished under the Judeo-Christian belief system, so they want the good things of God. But they do not want the premises that lead to it, i.e. God exists, Jesus died for our sins and rose from the grave to reestablish man's connection with God, conquering death, and giving us access to heaven -- a gift freely given that we cannot earn, which is grace.
It is like wanting to eat a cookie because it's delicious, but rejecting the recipe and the steps you'd have to go through to make it. Hope this helps.
@@anameichose8854 He is basically saying if you live as though there is a god without necessarily believing that there actually is a god, that you are living an inconsistent life, and therefore, your life philosophy is built on a less than rock solid foundation.
If you live as though there is a god, but do not wholly give your life to God, then if there is a god, you will not have salvation in the end.
If you do not fully believe in God, but live as though there is a god, then you are living an intellectually inconsistent life.
It is basically the old story of wanting to have your cake and eat it too... but in this case it goes both ways.
Of course, as a Christian, I believe that you can maintain intellectual integrity while having full faith in God, but some people are afraid to bridge that gap.
@@jonathanmcentire970 the quote loses sense when you realise that living as if there is a God is no different as living as if there is no God.
Andrew Klavan lets be honest, you were never in authentic Judaism. According to your bio, you came from a "secular" Jewish family, which basically means you learned Jewish tradition without the spirituality. You never experienced true religious, spiritual Judaism. You left "secular Judaism", to become an agnostic before converting to Christianity. IF you had converted to Christianity from one of the Orthodox spiritual streams of Judaism, you would know much more about it, had really experienced traditional Judaism, and could actually say you "left" Judaism for Christianity.
Well said.
You won’t easily find people who lived an authentically Jewish life, who truly delved into its meaning and foundation, and then converted to Christianity.
Not that they don’t exist. But it’s quite uncommon. There are many Jewish people who stopped practicing Judaism and gave it up, or converted due to finding acceptance and community.
But it’s not common for people who’ve been immersed in Jewish life to convert to Christianity based on philosophical reasons.
So all those hoping that Ben will do the same, it’s highly unlikely.
@@gl9088 i doubt there's actual data to support this claim. also, bc christianity is the cultural default in the u.s., many ppl who think they are christian are not. they just go to church and are conservative. so the same can be said of ppl who are true christians rarely convert to judaism
@Super Genius Your obviously not Jewish and know nothing about Judaism. You have no idea about who most Jews are, or what they believe, stick with subjects you might know a little about.
@@k.h.a.l.i.l. Yes their is a huge amount of data to support this and even books. Most Jews who intermarry or convert to other religions are not traditional or Orthodox Jews. Most converts are secular Jews, and even a large amount are religiously Reform or Reconstructionist.
@Super Genius "Cut the shit", Im gonna need a shovel for the amount of BS your putting out. So you now Know two words in the Jewish religion, do you also know matzah, bagel, and most importantly in Yiddish schmuck? You have no idea what Judaism really is, and definitely do not know anything about Kabbalah or Zohar.
This didn’t exactly get to the point of the title of the video. It began the journey but never finished it
Awesome. Love the testimony Drew. Ben I appreciate how you interview. Ask a question and listen until they are done. Amazing and lost skill. This is amazing guys. I hope and pray I can talk you all at DW and possibly work for you. It’s a dream but it’s somewhere I would thrive. Anyway God is important and love this discussion. God bless
Christ completed judaism. It was designed to bring the messiah to the jews and the world. I believe with all my heart that Jesus of Nazareth is that messiah.
As far as Ben Shapiro is concerned Andrew Klavin has gone over to the dark side.
Only satan is the dark side.
Very similar to Klavan and yet the opposite, i am also of Jewish blood, but i was raised by radical leftist atheists, when i was in high school my parents began practicing non theistic satanism, when i moved out i began to study my heritage but became a catholic in an attempt to heal the wounds left by my family, but i found myself forced to swallow my questions in every RCIA lesson, and was instructed that my questions about how a religion based ONLY on faith and not good deeds would be destructive, how the papal institutions denounced their own scripture in favor of woke politics etc… when i had a near death experience i had a divine awakening and have since returned to the faith, culture and traditions of my ancestors… i feel eternally blessed, altho my parents no longer know or care if i am alive bc of my devout orthodox judaism. ✡️
Catholics believe in faith she works ....
He's not an ex Jew, he's Judeo-Christian.
There's a huge flaw in Klavan's religious testimony.
1) his parents practiced Judaism (somewhat) but admitted they didn't believe in it.
2) he thought that was dumb and empty
3) therefore Christianity
So he's comparing a bankrupt caricature of Judaism with normal Christianity. Not a fair comparison at all. He never even encountered or investigated "believing Judaism" (like Ben)
It's like comparing 2 restaurants by smelling the dumpster of one compared to the kitchen of the other
Sadly when people don't experience the fullness of their heritage, they go elsewhere. Judaism has plenty of spirituality and intellectual learning.
😂 Love the dumpster/kitchen analogy.
Christ will save us, only Christ crucified. He died. He rose. He will come again. We must preach Christ crucified to this lost world. Every nation.
Amen.
@Nathaniel J. Franco not necessary.
Repent from worshipping a man as a false god.
If he died to pay the wages for YOUR SINS, then he would still be dead, as that is the price for my sins. Youve been deceived by Rome.
@@RoseSharon7777 I am not Catholic, get over yourself.
This has absolutely zero to do with "why I left Judaism for Christianity." It's "why I went from being an atheist to believing in God." Since both Ben and Andrew believe in God, there's no actual argument or discussion. Certainly no explanation of why Andrew became a Christian.
"to want the conclusions of a syllogism whose premises you don't accept"
This is such a great phrase. Our logic-deprived culture would really do well to learn it