Front and rear arm wrap
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- čas přidán 21. 11. 2012
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Thank you for posting this video. It is very helpful. I work in a juvenile detention center. It helps to know some different techniques
Your employer should be sending you to mapa training then
If you're working with those techniques, you will have problems for sure...it's pure garbage
You should tuck the persons hands into their hips so you can not have them pinch your legs! Also you should hold onto your arm to tighten the stance and lastly your last stance was not a correct way the individual will walk backwards out of it... when you get out of the shift staff needs to communicate a safety check.
Fact is those technics learned feels to me sometimes very humanite. Technics used in practise at door works even looked crazy was very useful at cases stairs down even stairs up way . Sometimes even out off maybo technics but adecvate risk managament
Not realistic at all. The straight arm should have the staff members closer into the aggressors hips to limit movement. They should be placed more behind the shoulders of the aggressor to limit movement with the aggressors palms facing backwards to help shut down muscle strength in the aggressor. They should be almost back to back with a spragged foot position which allows better stability if the person is being resistive. The turned position is ridiculously bad.
Also, they should not have their hands on their joints (wrists)
I’ve had that type of restraint
Anyone here done price training?
Yes, for quite a number of years. In my humble opinion far more effective than what I just watched here.
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My social worker mrs Alex did that to me because I refuse to walk
thats illegal
That switch leaves person released for a moment it is not the best going into figure four is better
This obviously isn’t TCI but the last thing you want to grab is a joint like the actual wrist. Also the transition from the front arm wrap to the back arm wrap isn’t as secure as the TCI team standing position
So where are you supposed to hold when the client is trying to pinch you scratch you bit you
So just above the joint, the only joint TCI approves being in contact with for safety reasons is the shoulder when in supine. So think about your average person you are trying to protect from doing harm. Whether it’s a kid or an adult they are not gonna be like this model, as if they were a restraint /hold would not be necessary. They are more then likely going to be fighting. We use a variation of this, way more secure, If done appropriately. But think about a struggling subject, the more they struggle the more you the staff need to brace and make sure your holds are secure. Being in a joint like a wrist, elbow, knee they are the more delicate areas of the body susceptible to injury. Which if your causing an injury during a restraint/hold then it kind of defeated the purpose . Though at times a minor injury may occur to prevent a larger injury or death. Especially if it gets more into a full hold and a kid is struggling. All staff should be extra cautious about staff that are much bigger then the other staff or person being held. This can cause situations where both parties can get injured , by larger staff over correcting , or simply using too much pressure from their body weight. Especially in high stress environments/situations. Foot and hip positioning is just as important as hands .
The most important will be you and your staffs demeanor, tone, language, body language. At least with TCI the two biggest things are de-escalation and harm reduction. A hold or restraint should always be the last resort.
And remember just because you’ve watched some CZcams videos that doesn’t mean you know how to do something. It’s not like woodworking, where you can start fresh. What you do can trigger trauma responses in people especially children with histories. You can cause them to relive their trauma, or create new trauma. We had 28 hours of classroom training. Plus on going training every month heavily around TCI techniques. As well as on going debrief, or retraining if your consistently doing something wrong.
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not the best for a standing restraint, allows too much movement on the violent person
I am a TCI certified trainer for the past 8 years and am current in all updates
Not realistic at all. The straight arm should have the staff members closer into the aggressors hips to limit movement. They should be placed more behind the shoulders of the aggressor to limit them also. The aggressors palms should be facing backwards to help shut down muscle strength in the aggressor. They should be almost back to back with a spragged foot position which allows better stability if the person is being resistive. The turned position is ridiculously bad.
James Barlow Figure of Four can be chosen over the wrap demonstrated. However, from my own experience it’s easier to turn in from the wrap displayed. It’s also seen as a step up. However, Finger and Thumb is used in the most extreme circumstances. You always need to have justification for restraint and the type of technique used within the NHS and the wrap used is not wrong.
@@graceroberts3091 The figure 4 is a lower level hold and should then progress onto the straight arm and then finally onto the thumb and forefinger. Turning in is not realistic as it doesnt shut down the muscle groups of the aggressor and gives free reign to grab and rotate out of the hold. It allows them to work to their strengths in the centre of their body. Whether you use the figure of 4 or thumb and forefinger you have to explain clear rationales for it use under least restrictive. My comments were simply to identify that the straight arm is being taught incorrectly. There are inconsistencies in the technique. Not that the hold is incorrect, unless younwas referring to the ridiculous turn in.
Thats mostly for children
This video isn’t made for behavior ppl
Too much emphasis on wrist restraint here. There are gentler techniques that achieve the same outward result
Totally wrong
any ex psych patients in these comments?
Totally bs
Les meilleures techniques pour être certain de manger un coup....vraiment dangereux