Is Punishment in Hell Forever? | Dr. Shabir Ally
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- "Is punishment in Hell eternal or finite?" Dr. Shabir Ally responds to this question from a viewer. He explains that for a long time, he held the simplistic view that Hell was forever. But he asks us to consider what that means for our understanding of God. Does it align with God's kindness and mercy to think of God watching people burning forever? Dr. Shabir says that important scholars in history said that Hell was temporary. He cites Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyyah, who argues that Paradise is forever but Hell isn't, and Dr. Shabir describes some of his arguments.
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In Quran 6:128, it is mentioned that hell will be forever, but then the exception is given, that is, except if your Lord wills otherwise.
In Surah Hud verses 106-108, there is description of people of hell and heaven. When God describes heaven, He says that heaven will remain forever except if your Lord wills otherwise, but the. The verse continues with the expresion that your Lord will not go against His promise.
But when Hell is mentioned, Allah says that Hell will remain forever, except if your Lord wills otherwise and then Allah says that He will do whatever He wills.
This difference should be pondered upon.
@Mohammed Talib
Why not? Even satan will enter heaven one day Insha Allah. 🙂🙂
@@omerali2690 No Shaitan shall be Annihilated. To believe in the salvation of Shait:a:n is a heresy if not Cufr.
@@omerali2690 Shait:a:n Shall be Annihilated .End of Hell / Jahannam does not mean people in hell shall be sent to Heavenly Paradise, an other alternative is that they shall be Annihilated for all aeviternity . ‘Ibn :Arabi also hold an analogous view that people in Heavenly Hell shall become punishment resistent and they shall not feel any torture in the apparent torture . Some one extended this view that they shall enjoy the apparent torture.
@Esse And Essence
Bro satan was already in Jannah even after he refused to accept Allah's command and after being casted out from God's presence. This is where he deceived Adam and Eve.
But in anycase, I used to think that Allah alone will decide the fate of His creation and I had a hope that Allah is above this poinless eternal torture which will be of no benefit. But it seems that the belief that the most merciful forgiving God is Malik e Yumiddeen is atleast heresy if not Kufr and God will ask muslim scholars first before deciding the fate of His creation. Bro, here is a request, when Allah will ask you about the fate of His creation, please ask Him to forgive me for believing in heresy. 😥😥😥
Either it remains forever or not we are sure that Allah never ever treats anyone unjustly.
Yep exactly Allah is the most Merciful.
Indeed Allah SWT is soo merciful
@@fountainofspeech1379 it remains forever regardless of shabir's misunderstanding
@@Bulayla1426 yes I know alhamdullilah. I've unsubscribed from this channel due to such views
according to Quran yes its for ever...
I'm not taking any chances. Gonna be good in this life to get into Heaven.
Yeah bro, better safe than sorry
That's what he said in the beginning. You do not want to spend even one second in there
Without Jesus it’s hell he told he is the only way and allah is a demon
Exactly, Man of honour. No need to put effort to gain a place in hell. May Allah's mercy be upon us so that we go to Heaven.
Being good is not enough , you also have to be muslim...
I explained something similar to my dad about a month ago. He's a non-muslim and he was asking questions about it. I told him that bad things cannot be in the presence of Allah, so if after your life you still have some bad in your soul, hell is there to purify your soul and then you'll be ready to go to heaven. This makes 100% sense with Allah's mercy.
but is that true?
Did u tell ur dad that he will go to hell becoz he is non Muslim.
It does not make sense at all. If the purpose is to purify as you say, he can purify without subjecting unimaginable torture in hell
@@trillanthropistgawd8488 I think it has more to do with being fair and just; If someone was a good person then it makes sense to put them in heaven. If someone was a bad person, then it does make sense for them to be punished. Why would god just purify them on the spot and put them in heaven? That wouldn't be just for the person who was good. But then again, this is my understanding of it, it is also possible that I am wrong.
ONLY those who believe in ONE GOD and belive that prophet Muhammed peace be upon him is the last prophet of God will go to heaven, don't rely on this scholars view because it is mentioned forever in hell in Islam. Tell your family/dad to convert to Islam if he wants salvation. The truth is the truth.
Oh Allah I please save all of us from the hell fire and guid us to the straight path
Ameen ❤️🥺
@@PurplesavitarVerse christ died for sins so if repent and trust then hell will not see you
@@nchofuasegaidprotus8040 Astagfirullah Jesus Christ (Hazrat Isa a.s) was never God he is Messengers of Allah ❤️ King of all and You should Repent to Allah ❤️ King of all and trust Hell will not see You
@@nchofuasegaidprotus8040 jesus is prophet, not a god. I hope someday you will understand.
Don’t worry about hell, it’s nonsense! First century, apocalyptic, Orthodox Jews, including Jesus, did not believe in heaven hell or an afterlife of reward and punishment. The concept of reward or punishment after death came to the Jews after repeated failed prophecies, military defeats and episodes of exile and dislocation culminating in the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE (after the death of Jesus). Jewish thinkers slowly began to lose faith in their prophetic past and any hope of immediate change, instead they invested greater expectations in a messianic future and in life after death. This was coupled with the introduction into Judaism of Hellenistic notions of the division of the material, perishable body and the spiritual, eternal soul. I am saying that Mohammed knew non of this when he wrote the Quran so he accepted the latter ideas of heaven, hell and the afterlife and plagiarised it!
But those who disbelieve and deny Our signs will be the residents of the Fire. They will be there forever.” 2:39
May Allah spare us from the punishment in hell, even for the smallest fraction of time.
Oh dear, I normally don't get into conversation about hell and heaven, but i see you might be a kind person. The hell and heaven are not in afterlife. We create them here, within our hearts and minds. Best
@@EK-fc8ms and the consequences follow through the afterlife in real hell and heaven.
@@MnSakib007 have you seen it? Have you been to the other side? I am telling you , all of it is here. But it's up to you, you either can have a life of fear, or a life of joy and trust
@@EK-fc8ms I believe because Allah says so. That's the only reason. And I don't think I'm missing out on much. You and I both haven't been on the other side. For the sake of argument, if there's nothing on the other side (which, I believe, there is) then I don't see much harm for me. BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING, MY FRIEND, GOOD LUCK 😁.
@@MnSakib007So just in case, you are protected :) or so you think and also speak for yourself. I have seen it a little. But why wishing me good luck? ( than you :)) You don't know my life, what kind of person I am. My understanding is always evolving, I am always inquiring and searching. I've been through dogma, don't need it anymore. If you think it's working for you... great. Sorry I have tried to respond, you don't need anyone, you know it all
May Allah bless all of you people who watched this video
NOT ME
Ameen
Yes, this clip may bring forth an other controversy. But, it make sense hearing argument with open mind. We hope and pray that non of us be subject to that fire.
It brings controversy cuz he wrong. Ibn al qayyim Is free from his claims on him.
Ibn al qayyim believed that hell ends for the believers yet people twists his words
@321Love-Walking The-Talk if you were a muslims but were a sinner you'd go to hell for some time then be removed1
@321Love-Walking The-Talk it's not fully mentioned in the quran. It's mentioned in the sunnah though
The host, Dr. Safiyyah Ally, was awesome with her questions. She asked things that many prople would ask.
Bravo.
Man thinking about is scary subhanallah may Allah protect us from hell fire🤲
Ameen
KM Hemmans The CZcamsr
Ameen and yes so scary we should cry thinking about it
Ameen
I've always held this view but I never knew there were other scholars who had this theory! Even though it's a minority opinion, to me it 100% reinforces the mercy and love God has for us and makes me want to do better because of it. Thank you so much for sharing!
I'd disagree it's simply going against basics and is not understanding God is the full capacity of the attributes such as mercy, majestic etc so thereby his punishment should be as befits him as he is truly the most just the Qu'ran emphasises it too that God could've put all the good on jannah and bad in hell but to be fair he put them through life.
By no way philosophically speaking hell fire being eternal is not against God it'd just a very intense punishment as it should to befit God.
But i understand one's issue with it from a emotional standard we obviously understand its a painful punishment but God knows best hellfire is truly for the evil.
@@omaribnalahmed5967 Well I'm still figuring out the whole free will problem, which is also related to that. But yes, from an emotional and practical perspective, how many times have you forgiven your kids, parents, siblings, or pets despite them deliberately doing something you told them not to? Even though I'm not a particularly forgiving person and I can easily hold grudges, it's hard to not forgive the ones you love most. Of course God is all-powerful and can do whatever; only God knows what will happen in the end.
There actually have been medieval scholars who didnt believe in the eternal hell. Even today for every verse that implies eternal hell there are tons of other verses to support the non eternal hell.
May Allah protects us from hell fire, no body can be in hell for one second let's pray tonit the 27th of ramadan that allah save us from hell fire
Hellfire clearly does not exist my friend, so stop worrying, its all man made nonsense designed to control people, fear mongering etc
@@S24W2 praying for you, hopefully you find the right path to take
@@shark5651 thank you, but you'll be praying for a long long time! I've taken the right path, and I am happy living ams and enjoying my one life that I have
@@S24W2 bro its not worth its only 80 years.. heaven is endless
@@shark5651 I don't get your point? You speak as if you have evidence for this heaven which is endless
It was mentioned that it was forever. But there are verses that supports that idea that followed by saying in except of Allah's mercy. So I'm hoping that Allah than can have a mercy on us even the worst person on Earth. Its really terrifying to know that Allah punishes someone eternally. He's the most merciful and I personally believe He will forgive everyone. Maybe not the same time for each of us but I know the time will come when the last person in hell will be forgiven after the horrendous torture. But still Allah only knows. Inshallah.
An-Nisa - Verse 116
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَا يَغْفِرُ أَن يُشْرَكَ بِهِۦ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذَٰلِكَ لِمَن يَشَآءُ ۚ وَمَن يُشْرِكْ بِٱللَّهِ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ ضَلَـٰلًۢا بَعِيدًا
Dr. Mustafa Khattab, The Clear Quran:
Surely Allah does not forgive associating ˹others˺ with Him ˹in worship˺, but forgives anything else of whoever He wills. Indeed, whoever associates ˹others˺ with Allah has clearly gone far astray.
Ali 'Imran - Verse 9
رَبَّنَآ إِنَّكَ جَامِعُ ٱلنَّاسِ لِيَوْمٍ لَّا رَيْبَ فِيهِ ۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَا يُخْلِفُ ٱلْمِيعَادَ
Dr. Mustafa Khattab, The Clear Quran:
Our Lord! You will certainly gather all humanity for the ˹promised˺ Day-about which there is no doubt. Surely Allah does not break His promise.”
Allah is saying several times in the Quran that he wont forgive the Non-Muslims.
Surah Al Maida 5:72
Whoever associates others with Allah will surely be forbidden paradise by Allah
@@Shawrick. Yes but in some verses, it's followed by "except for His mercy". I don't believe Allah will punish people eternally, I just think God is very merciful. Maybe He only says eternal punishment in Hell so people get scared. But Allah knows best. What I just know is He's the most forgiving. And I wish to the kafir to be forgive by Allah because punishment in Hell is not easy. Just being there for a second terrified me, what about eternal, which doesn't make sense.
I also think the punishment in hell is a way of purification.
But again, this is just my opinion. Allah still knows best.
@@salihkh akhi what's your take on imam Mahdi being already born after 9/11
Dr Shabir ally is highly knowledgeable person, May Allah give him higher place in everywhere
@salman yusuf Not every old person is knowledgeable
I agree that the only true God is merciful in one way or another with his creation, good or bad !!
Here allh is defended by this greatest of lier.
No he isn't. He doesn't even quote ibn al qayyim or ibn taymiyyah properly. They didn't believe in hell ending.
They believed hell ONLY ENDS for the MUSLIMS that were in hell
yes, pls… everywhere .. i just love that❣️
I love how both of these PhDs, father and daughter pair discuss these topics, with humility and open mind at the same time maintaining the integrity of the questions and the subject matters relating to the Quran and hadiths! I would love it more if they concluded each videos with saying JazakAllahu khairan or something like that instead of ty/yw.
you are the only living scholar in Islam who had the same view of me..Alahamdulillah..May your view should be widely reached and lets make this world more beautiful
And both your views are incorrect! This man is a misguided scholar
@@drammehali7156 so the correct view is eternell punishement for few years of sinning on earth?
@@kamellolz7 Think again. A creator created you and you refuse him through your whole life. If you refuse Allah throughout your whole life from beginning to end, its obvious that you will refuse him if you get eternal life. So why not the eternal punishment?
Another point is, we dont know how worse is refusing Allah as creator. If it deserves eternal punishment, then Allah will definitely serve it. If it doesn't, Allah is Al-Hakim.
@@kamellolz7 Watch your words. Allah has said in Quran that disbelievers will be in hell forever.
@@saifanwartauhid1702 im not talking about refusing allah as creator im talking about people that are agnostique and chrsitian
Keep up the good work
The follow up questions were really good.
Thank you very much and jazzak Allah kol el-khair Dr Shabir Ally and many thanks to this great channel and its organizers. El-hamdolelah, Allah gave me the great gift of watching this video. I do not know how to thank you enough.
Don't believe in this solely. It's just his thinking. Allah knows best.
Dr Shabir Ally ,thanks for your phenomenon lectures you have been given to us
subhanallah this was exactly what i was looking for. Thank you
so well put!
Good discussion 👌🏼
ALLAH does not need anyone, we need ALLAH. So it doesn’t matter if someone doesn’t think Allah appealing to them. Ungratefulness always leads people to Downfall.
So we should always be thankful to ALLAH for not punishing us in this world despite of our uncountable sins and transgressions. May Allah forgive us and save us from hellfire.
Amen
I NEED HELP WITH MY CASH FLOW
Always enlighting 😊
I am mostly in agreement with Silver scorpion 17 (ss17) it is true mostly that if u do the right actions together with right intention u will be in bliss but at a higher level the mercy of god overides everything including punishment that is why he destined a prostitute to bliss because of her pure intention and right action
So I this world do what u du is right and inthe next uworld u will be in bliss
God's mercy overides everything else in this world and in the next
So samianaa was athaana (I believed and did the right action )
Hence come what may continue doing sujood till u are no more
Thanks for sharing!
In Quran 6:128, it is mentioned that hell will be forever, but then the exception is given, that is, except if your Lord wills otherwise.
In Surah Hud verses 106-108, there is description of people of hell and heaven. When God describes heaven, He says that heaven will remain forever except if your Lord wills otherwise, but then the verse continues with the expresion that your Lord will not go against His promise.
But when Hell is mentioned, Allah says that Hell will remain forever, except if your Lord wills otherwise and then Allah says that He will do whatever He wills.
This difference should be pondered upon.
Good Observation
unless God interfere, hell is forever?
@@rockhard9369 Well yes, if you look at it from a literal sense. But in the verse when god said that heaven will remain forever unless he wills it then we would understand that one day he might will it to not exist anymore, but the verse also says that god keeps his promise (and here i believe the promise that god made for humans that they will live forever in heaven) meaning that god will do what he wants but won't go against his promise meaning that heaven will exist forever because gods promised it will and he will never will for it not to exist.
With hell god doesn't make a promise that it will exist forever, he said it will exist forever unless he wills for it not to, but there is no promise here that states that hell will remain forever. Meaning that although he said that hell will remain forever, his addition to "unless i will for it not to exist" means that a time will come when he will remove hell.
One might say that: well, he could just leave it there forever, after all he said IF he wills for it not to exist. This argument makes sense but in the quran god shows that he is more merciful that angry and vengeful, so by that definition it means that in the end his mercy will drive him to remove hell eventually.
I am not a scholar or a scientist but this is my point of view from some observations on the quran and the infos this video gave us.
@@fury9947 okay, thank you, wish you peace and happiness, Allah bless you.
@@rockhard9369 happy to help, but please make sure to do your own research. Don't simply take everything that I've said for granted, I'm not a scientist or a scholar so if you want more details check pro scholars and their interpretations and see what makes sense to you most. To me what i stated made sense but it could always change because i made my analysis depending of what I know, meaning that my opinion might change if i learn more. So never stop asking and learning and don't close your mind to what makes you feel good, i believe god gave us intelligence to learn and ask and seek answers, not to live like mindless cattle. I hope this helps you out mate.
Put your trust in God, do good, guard your consciousness and it will be alright, God-willing.
Thank you so very much for your content!!! It has helped me so much with my iman and happiness!!!
MashaAllah
Mashallah ❤️
How can falsehood help you with your Imaan? If you want your Imaan to be helped then you need to follow the Quran and Sunnah with the understanding of the Companions of the Messenger ﷺ since they understand Islam better than anyone. If you listen to this fool in this video or any other sugar coater you will be misguided and far away from the path of Allah. The choice is yours!
Thank you.I have been looking for this answer forever.
Many thanks Dr. SABIR❤
One should take account that people who goes to Paradise goes there because of the mercy of The Most Merciful (God). But one who goes to Hell goes there because he deserves it.
no one deserves eternal hellfire, not even hitler..let alone a good disbeliever
yes 100%
@@psychologytoday1521 I believe that too, so, while Paradise is eternal (as the mercy of God who is giving it to people who doesn't deserve it is infinite), the Hell isn't (as the fault of people punished there isn't).
@@madjames1134 No ! ALLAH SUBBAHANATALAH is gracious, just and merciful ! THAT doesn't mean he'll give paradise to a person that doesn't deserve it, then that will be unjust there are criteria rules and commandments for it !
As a Muslim we believe this live is a test and the judgement day is our exam result hererafter is the final abode according to how we lived this life we will enter heaven or hell fire . ALLAH SUBBAHANATALAH our creator has given us free will it's up to us if we will obey or disobey him (I don't want to disobey my creator ALLAH SUBBAHANATALAH for sure )
So to pass our test in this life we have to keep his commandments and worship him alone without associating any partners which is the biggest sin ISLAM i we worship ALLAH SUBBAHANATALAH alone ! Just being a good human giving to charity doing good deeds won't cut it .
That why ALLAH SUBBAHANATALAH has sent Prophet's and messenger over time and time again to warn and guide us to the right path and stay away from Saitan trap of listen to him meaning own desire and sin being trapped in the worldly materialistic things .
I don't want to lose my eternity for a misley 100 years of earthly life .
Hitler will have to burn he's skin of the bone join back together six million times over then afterwards other cases will be heard it will take billions of year of wishful thinking .......
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Damn. I hope everyone forgives me during judgement day!
Alhamdulillah always enlighten with your insight sir
The Dr should say
" Allah knows the best at the end!"
WALLAH whenever i ponder a question Dr Shabir replies to it the next day. This is a regular occurrence with your channel and has happened again. I truly believe Allah is working through this channel, stay safe and love from the UK
Thats Allah swt answering ur questions my friend : )
Same here! I was thinking about this matter after I read verse 107 of Surah Hud a few weeks back.
Well then shaytaan be answering your questions because shabir talks bout issues he doesn't know anyhting sbout
@@Bulayla1426 if you say so wahabi
@@Hamza00011 wow such a great reply.
I have experienced a sense of relief after hearing the Dr.
it was really mindblowing for me, ma shaa Allah
Please everyone be nice to each other. And be a good Muslim.😎
YOU DONT HAVE TO BELIEVE TO BE GOOD
mashallah, may Allah bless you guys
I deal with this question a lot in philosophical point of view. Specially regarding non-believers.
Disbelievers will be in hell forever with the permission of Allah.
@@shahul8222 with permission * ?????
@@Anonymous_00020 with the will of Allah
I really enjoy Dr. Shabir Ally.
اللهم أرنا الحق حقا وارزقنا اتباعة، وأرنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابة. اللهم إني أعوذ بك من علم لا ينفع.
أَفَمَن حَقَّ عَلَيهِ كَلِمَةُ العَذابِ أَفَأَنتَ تُنقِذُ مَن فِى النّارِ
Saw it again!need part 2
Now the meaning of most merciful is cleared... Thank you so much... This video is just like lifting a heavy burden on my soul... My heart is happy now... We all are sinner... And the thought of staying in hell forever is so horrible
8:33 i totally love this line. Dr. Shabir Ally is such a wonderful person!
you are right, Quran says that Jews and christians used to say none other than jews and christians would enter paradise.
"The Jews and Christians each claim that none will enter Paradise except those of their own faith. These are their desires. Reply, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Show ˹me˺ your proof if what you say is true.”" Quran 2:111
Now some Muslims seems to say the exact thing. The judgment is for God, we are not to judge anyone, we should only see if we are on righteous path and think where we will end up, in Hell or Heaven
Hell is forever may Allah forgive us and keep us to his deen
If your children commit sin, would you send them to hell forever?
Allah send people to hell not me if my son live his life according to Islam. Allah is most merciful and forgive all sins
@@dzhamshedumarov7969 you’re missing my point but ok
@@Natalie-fj7fs relationship between son and dad isn't like that of a God and human.
@@Natalie-fj7fs yeah if i was God and people didn't Pray for Thanking me for their existence ofc i would do.
Well explained
I really love Dr. Shabir Ally, he represents islam very well, kindly, wise. Many could learn from his ways.
Lots of love and respect from Kashmir♥️♥️♥️
Is it true about the harassment of the Indian army ??
Or are you from POK or China occupied Kashmir ?
@@shashankphansikar7094 there isn't any POK, there's IOK, indian occupied kashmir! And indian army is doing genocide there.
A difficult question answered very well. Muslims like Dr Shabbir are exactly what our Ummah needs; familiar with the Islamic sciences; Academic and well spoken. Most people are hesitant about Islaam due to false misunderstandings and misconceptions which are widespread. If more Muslims study their faith tradition and are able to express and articulate a conversation on this level then there is no reason why Islam cannot spread.
what science
GO TOO CHRISTIAN PRINCE
WHAT SCIENCE
The reason why so many Muslims struggle to explain their religion is because their religion is nonsense. Jesus loves you, I pray you find him
@@mckaylarosej7009 ur nonsense
I admire Dr Shabbir a lot. I always feel troubled when I read a verse in the Quran mentioning eternal hell for some people will specific evil deeds. I can't really understand, but Allah knows best and may Allah bless all those people who feel that they may have wrong interpretation of what the Quran is really saying.
I am actually so scared that I don’t know what to do. May Allah forgive us for our weaknesses.
In the Quran Allah says ... those in the hell will stay as long as he (Allah) want ... that clear its not infinite .... Alhamdullilah
There are many verses that say Jahannam will be forever.
Forever not means infinity
@@mohdumar1594what's the difference between infinite and forever then?
And those who disbelieve and deny Our signs - those will be companions of the Fire; they will abide therein eternally." (39)
2 : 39
Chapter 2 Al-Baqarah, Ayah 39
In Quran 6:128, it is mentioned that hell will be forever, but then the exception is given, that is, except if your Lord wills otherwise.
In Surah Hud verses 106-108, there is description of people of hell and heaven. When God describes heaven, He says that heaven will remain forever except if your Lord wills otherwise, but you Lord will not go against His promise.
But when Hell is mentioned, Allah says that Hell will remain forever, except if your Lord wills otherwise and then Allah says that He will do whatever He wills.
This difference should be pondered upon.
@@omerali2690
The punishment will not be lightened for them, nor will they be reprieved.
Chapter 2 Al-Baqarah, Ayah 162
@@user-pz2uc5yh1b
There is a difference between warning of severe punishment, and actually delivering that punishment. In the end, Allah will do whatever He wills.
I remember that during my childhood, there were a lot of instances when my parent told me that if I do certain mistake, they will punish me ( at some instances, they said that they will kill me). I now know that they said it just because they wanted me to stay away from certain evils, and not that they would actually kill me, if I had done those things.
So I do hope that these are just warnings and in the end Allah is above that pointless and useless torture.
@@omerali2690 You might be fool to compare Allah(swt) to your parents. You need to understand when Allah swt said something in the Quran then it will happen and it won't change. HIS WORDS WON'T CHANGE AT ANY CONDITION, It is humans who don't keep their words but HE will always keep his words.
Why just hell? Even paradise is temporary then. Why do you think you will be in paradise forever?
Above concept doesn't make any sense it's just distroying people's faith.
@@omerali2690 WHAT !? “Pointless And Useless Torture” ??? satan Asked For Respite But Not Safety From Hell ! What is Happening in Palestine is Pointless And Useless Torture !!! Bro Why Defend satan’s side ? Be Careful of Your Words ! AsalamuAlaikum Ameen
Thanks!
What an enlightened answer
I totally agree with Dr Shabir Ally,
Allah's quality of Rahman and Raheem will be justified i think so.
I imagine Allah SWT this way, you cleared my 52 years stuck mind on this.
Jizak Allah.
This is a christian concept that God is all love which is why they are free doing what they want, Allah is just no one who will be in hell did not deserve to be there especially in this day and age where Islam is everywhere.
Amazingly explained Mash'Allah :) easy to understand, concise yet fully detailed. May Allah bless Dr Shabbir forevermore 🙏🏻
Amen.
Ameen
so he's saying that Satan won't be in Hell forever???
Thank you for your wisedom
Takbeer!!!
Ill take a beer....thanks.
@@tommy2972 nope we only serve coke ....Takbeer means God of Abraham akbar!!
@@fidelcatsro6948 god is the biggest
@@tommy2972 God is the Greatest!!
@@fidelcatsro6948 nope....just the biggest.
Thank you Dr. Shabbir Ally, for the such a crisp video. This surely helped me in my search; since, my search is more from a philosophical bent 😀😀 this video provided a vital insight...God bless us all 🙏🙏🙏
@Arjun K
Are you a Hindu ?
@@rizwanrafeek3811 yes
@@arjunk100 Have you read the Quran?
@@rizwanrafeek3811 planning to, read Surah Al Baqarah and Al e Imran this Ramadan...planning to continue 🙂
@@rizwanrafeek3811 Agar koi non muslim jisne 0 sins kiye ho aur Usko
Eternal hell Kyu mile.Temporary hell nahi Kya Islam main
Excellent
Very wise response 👏
Maaha Allah well explained topic BarakAllah feek both of you
I enjoy this channel and discussions it brings.
There are also verses referring to, as long as Allah will, and as long as the heavens and the earth last. This would also resolve the question of free will. Allah knows that everyone will eventually end up in paradise, but there will be purgatory hell to punish this life’s actions. In this way Allah doesn’t predestined eternal hell for everyone, not only temporary for those who did evil out if their own free will which He has granted.
Dr. Shabir has a lot of minority views that I really appreciate. He gives another side to what a lot of the classical scholars firmly believe and it's nice to have other viewpoints
You do realise he is effectively trying to appease people. Ibn Ul-Qayyim is free from this. If you read from those classical scholars you'd also realise hell is forever. Read the Tafseer of Ibn Katheer. Also there are many hadiths verifying this. Those who die upon other than Islam are in hell forever.
@@jagenaught The Bible does not teach a literal hell and God is described as the God of love. A loving God would never consider making such a place.
@@winstongrettum3412 So if hell doesn't exist, what happens to murderers, non Christians and atheists? Will they enter heaven according to you? Also how do you know what a loving God does or doesn't do? Can you explain the 10 commandments? Is there a purpose for them or it's just a set of commandments with no purpose?
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770:
"Allah will call them [on the day of Resurrection], and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across HELL and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers."
So Muhammad has been waiting and burning in hell 🔥 since he died.
Meanwhile Jesus Christ has the power to save people from hell, like when Jesus told the thief on the cross "Today you will be with me in paradise". Jesus gives His followers eternal life because He has the keys of death and hell (John 10:28, Revelation 1:18)
@@finalfantasy3808
you're grossly misguided. Jesus won't save you. He was a great Messenger of Allah. You don't understand the hadith at all.
Abu Huraira reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “I will be the first to cross the bridge over Hell. The supplication of the Messengers on that day will be: O Allah, keep us safe! O Allah, keep us safe! There will be hooks on the sides like the thorns of al-Sa’dan, except their enormity is only known to Allah. People will be seized by them according to their deeds. Among them are those who are ruined by their deeds. Among them are those who are cut into pieces and later saved, until Allah has finished judging between His servants and He intends to take out of the Hellfire whomever He wills to take out. For whomever testified there is no God but Allah, the angels will be ordered to take them out and they will be known by their trace marks of prostration. Allah has forbidden the Hellfire from consuming any children of Adam with traces of prostration. They will be taken out after they had been burned, then dipped into a water called the water of life. They will spring forth like seeds on a streaming river.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 6573, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 182
Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim
عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قال أَكُونُ أَوَّلَ مَنْ يُجِيزُ يعني جِسْر جَهَنَّمَ وَدُعَاءُ الرُّسُلِ يَوْمَئِذٍ اللَّهُمَّ سَلِّمْ سَلِّمْ وَبِهِ كَلَالِيبُ مِثْلُ شَوْكِ السَّعْدَانِ غَيْرَ أَنَّهَا لَا يَعْلَمُ قَدْرَ عِظَمِهَا إِلَّا اللَّهُ فَتَخْطَفُ النَّاسَ بِأَعْمَالِهِمْ مِنْهُمْ الْمُوبَقُ بِعَمَلِهِ وَمِنْهُمْ الْمُخَرْدَلُ ثُمَّ يَنْجُو حَتَّى إِذَا فَرَغَ اللَّهُ مِنْ الْقَضَاءِ بَيْنَ عِبَادِهِ وَأَرَادَ أَنْ يُخْرِجَ مِنْ النَّارِ مَنْ أَرَادَ أَنْ يُخْرِجَ مِمَّنْ كَانَ يَشْهَدُ أَنْ لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا اللَّهُ أَمَرَ الْمَلَائِكَةَ أَنْ يُخْرِجُوهُمْ فَيَعْرِفُونَهُمْ بِعَلَامَةِ آثَارِ السُّجُودِ وَحَرَّمَ اللَّهُ عَلَى النَّارِ أَنْ تَأْكُلَ مِنْ ابْنِ آدَمَ أَثَرَ السُّجُودِ فَيُخْرِجُونَهُمْ قَدْ امْتُحِشُوا فَيُصَبُّ عَلَيْهِمْ مَاءٌ يُقَالُ لَهُ مَاءُ الْحَيَاةِ فَيَنْبُتُونَ نَبَاتَ الْحِبَّةِ فِي حَمِيلِ السَّيْلِ
6573 صحيح البخاري كتاب الرقاق باب الصراط جسر جهنم
182 صحيح مسلم كتاب الإيمان باب معرفة طريق الرؤية
If hell is not for ever, then where will Satan and his entourage end?
A very good question my brother! Shabir Ally is a misguided scholar who gives wrong answers always
@@drammehali7156 agreed
@@drammehali7156 especially after onedawah exposed him
@@drammehali7156 serious questions on this guy’s aqeedah and understanding of Islam, has totally freed himself from the scholarly tradition
@@drammehali7156 He's misguided for following the opinion of the "misguided" Ibn Qayyim and Ibn Taymiyyah?
Mash Allah ♥️
Okay, Dr. Shabby Ally is smart and has beneficial knowledge. May الله invite him to Jannah.
What an interesting and amazing speaker!
Ibn Taymiyyah himself, and also Ibn Arabi held that hell is temporary for everyone who goes there.
Thank you
I asked this question a long time ago :)
Allah the almighty and the most Merciful will never reject anyone that turns to him and repent and ask for forgiveness from him. May Allah give the kind souls his mercy and Jannah.
Aameen.
Asagfirullah asagfirullah asagfirullah may Allah paak bless forgive all our sins ameen sum ameen ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
mashallah💓💓
Respected sheikh, i would like to ask one thing, u said hell will be there for a long time but not for infinity as it will serve its purpose and will be removed afterwards,,does that mean even iblees will be taken out,,he has not stopped since creation and knowingly rebelled against Almighty,and maulana tariq jameel i saw in his video said after spending a long time iblees will be taken out of hell fr a moment and asked whether he will repent but he will not give up his arrogance(ignorance) in that context i fail to see how hell will ever cease to exits,,,kindly reply.
VERY INTERESTING! As long as Hell REMAINS, so one day Allah could erase it, very mindblowing for me!
The best reasoning to hell not being eternal is justice. The only reason someone would be put in hell is to fulfill justice. An eternal hell means god doesnt have power to bring justice as an infinite punishment would mean justice can never be fulfilled. An all powerful god would have power to bring a punishment fitting to justice.
Nice way of thinking.
@@thehourglassfan3515 you edited your comment but i got the gist of the part you deleted. Well some will say an infinite sin needs infinite hell. When i ask what this is some will refer to associating partners ie idol worship. But i dont see how some ppl worshipping other deities would need infinite hell, never made sense to me.
You will also find that ppl will not like my hell reasoning but if i said god cannot repair the damage done to those who suffered on earth they get angry saying how dare you say that but they dont believe god can punish justly without infinite hell
@@Yameen200 Yeah I edited it but basically I was saying most people in here reply negatively to Dr. Shabbir Ally’s views.
@@Yameen200 Yeah I never understood this concept either and by the way, any person belonging to whatever religion he happens to follow believes it to be the truth so he’s not disobeying God in that regard.
@@Yameen200 idol worship can be mean anything. not only to worship statue,it's just a small sin which will led into bigger sin. means you are stepping away from Allah rules and makes new rules who is not Allah approved which is majority of religion is doing now. heck even tradisional islam. so you worship the wrong deities, not considering read the quran but scholar, pastur, etc like they are know it all
I love how she's asks her father probing questions. The kind that I (an atheist) would ask. These two are a great duo and great at explaining their beliefs.
Great scholar
MALAY SUBTITLES Part 1 of 2
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Seperti gambar Tuhan anda
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adakah seseorang yang disebut benda ini neraka,
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dan dia akan meletakkan orang di sana
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dan dia akan menyaksikan mereka terbakar selama-lamanya.
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Oleh itu, apakah maksudnya bagi Tuhan?
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Dan kemudian anda mengatakan bahawa Tuhan itu baik dan penyayang.
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Jadi bagaimana kebaikan dan rahmat ini
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dinyatakan dalam keadaan itu?
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Jadi ini memerlukan jawapan,
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dan dalam menangani persoalan ini,
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Saya mendapati bahawa terdapat banyak sebab
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kerana berfikir bahawa ...
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Untuk mengatakan bahawa neraka itu selamanya
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bukan idea yang baik.
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Dan saya berasa lega untuk mencari
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bahawa terdapat sebilangan sarjana Islam dalam sejarah kita
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beberapa sarjana penting yang sebenarnya berkata
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neraka itu tidak akan selamanya.
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Yang paling terkenal dalam hal ini adalah Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya.
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Dia adalah pelajar terkenal Ibnu Taimiyah,
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yang dianggap sebagai sebilangan besar Syeikh ul-Islam.
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Inilah gelaran yang telah dianugerahkan kepadanya
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oleh penduduk yang ramai, sarjana Islam.
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Bukan hanya seorang sarjana, tetapi anda tahu, seorang sarjana ulama.
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Dan tentunya dia terkenal
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untuk banyak tulisannya, koleksi besar
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fatwa atau keputusan yang telah diberikannya.
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Anda tahu, hanya koleksi fatwa seperti ini
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selebar ini di rak buku,
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mengisi keseluruhan rak.
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Pelajarnya, Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyyah
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juga cukup berjaya
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dan sangat dihormati.
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Dia menulis sebuah buku berjudul (bahasa asing)
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"Petunjuk untuk jiwa ke tanah kebahagiaan."
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Dalam buku itu, dia mengemukakan persoalan
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sama ada syurga dan neraka akan kekal selama-lamanya.
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Dan dia memberikan pelbagai penggunaan sarjana Muslim mengenai perkara ini.
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Oleh itu, ketika datang ke neraka secara khusus,
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dia mengambil kedudukan dan dia berkata
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bahawa ini adalah kedudukan gurunya juga,
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neraka itu tidak akan selamanya.
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Dan bagaimana dia sampai di sini?
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Baiklah, dia terlebih dahulu memberikan hujah
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dari mereka yang mengatakan bahawa ia akan kekal selama-lamanya.
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Dan kemudian dia membantah hujah-hujah itu
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dengan memberikan hujah balas.
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Dan kemudian dia memberikan sekitar 25 mata untuk menunjukkan perbezaannya
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antara syurga dan neraka pada persoalan ini.
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Jadi syurga harus selamanya, tetapi neraka tidak selamanya,
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kerana ada perbezaan antara keduanya.
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Jadi apakah perkara utama yang akan digunakan oleh orang lain
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untuk mengatakan bahawa neraka itu selamanya?
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Nah, kad truf besar untuk mereka
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adakah terdapat ayat-ayat dalam Al-Quran
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yang mengatakan bahawa orang akan masuk neraka
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dan mereka akan tahu, seperti (bergumam)
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akan berada di neraka selama-lamanya
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dan seperti bermaksud mereka akan
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tinggal di sana - seperti jenis tinggal di sana.
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Seperti, ia seolah-olah tidak berakhir.
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Kadang-kadang, ada yang (bergumam)
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seperti mereka akan berada di sana selamanya.
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Jadi ini kelihatan sangat jelas dan harfiah
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tetapi jawapan Ibn Qayyim untuk itu adalah ya.
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Tetapi dalam konteksnya, seperti ketika kita katakan
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bahawa sesuatu akan kekal selamanya, tetapi kita bermaksud selamanya.
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Seperti seseorang yang berkata, "Perkara ini berlaku selamanya."
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Kita tahu dalam konteksnya, itu tidak bermaksud selamanya
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dalam erti kata falsafah bermaksud terlalu lama
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betul? Ini berlaku selama-lamanya.
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Seperti yang diperlukan untuk memuat turun filem ini selama-lamanya?
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Dan kita tahu hanya beberapa minit
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tetapi ada yang mengatakan bahawa ia memerlukan selama-lamanya.
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Mereka bermaksud beberapa minit.
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- Tetapi adakah anda fikir Tuhan akan menggunakan bahasa dengan begitu tidak tepat?
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- Baik tetapi maksud Ibn Qayyim tepat
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adakah bahasa itu digunakan seperti dalam konteks tertentu.
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Jadi apabila diketahui, bila ada alasan yang baik
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kerana berfikir bahawa neraka akan menjadi sementara.
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- Mhmm.
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- Apabila dikatakan bahawa orang akan dilemparkan ke neraka
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dan mereka akan kekal di dalamnya,
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itu bermaksud selama neraka.
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Jadi selagi neraka kekal.
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Tetapi jika Tuhan memadamkan neraka
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seperti ia membuahkan hasil,
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maka neraka tidak kekal.
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Tetapi selagi ia kekal, orang akan tetap berada di dalamnya.
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Jadi sebagai contoh,
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syurga, ini adalah ungkapan rahmat Tuhan.
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Dan menurut Ibn Qayyim
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Rahmat Tuhan adalah sesuatu yang wujud di dalam Tuhan.
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Ini adalah, ini bukan disebabkan oleh sesuatu yang diluar dirinya.
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Inilah bagaimana Tuhan.
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Tetapi kemarahan Tuhan tidak begitu melekat pada Tuhan.
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Ia disebabkan oleh perkara lain yang berada di luar Tuhan
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adalah kerana dosa orang.
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Maka kemarahan Tuhan dinyatakan sebagai neraka.
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Dan itu adalah dosa orang
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yang menyebabkan neraka dinyatakan.
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Jika tidak, tidak ada apa-apa di dalam Tuhan
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yang mengatakan bahawa saya mesti mempunyai neraka.
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Maka neraka itulah ungkapan kemarahan Tuhan
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menangani dosa melainkan rahmat
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mengatasi kemarahan, menurut Hadis yang terkenal.
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Dan bahkan pernyataan Al-Quran tentang ini mengatakan bahawa
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Rahmat Tuhan sangat kuat.
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Oleh itu, dari perspektif ini, mudah difahami
May Allah forgive us all.
The beautiful thing about this question/discussion is the opportunity to think about Allah's mercy. Please share this video as it could be good dawa. Many would find these ideas inviting.
Thanks amiina
I found your explanation very informative and gave me something to think about because it's a subject I've wondered about I'm non Muslim and I've thought about becoming Muslim. It's troubled me that as a non Muslim I won't go to paradise and your explanation has eased my mind a lot
I think u should consider becoming a muslim like the fact that ur here means that u have faith in ur heart may allah guide u 💗
Search for a video called "Laughing at Unbelievers in Hell?". It will give you some good ideas.
The interpretation of this man is wrong. The Qur’an says that non-Muslims will be in Hell forever
Hellfire is not eternal,
the word "khalidina" and "abad" it also means for a long time.
read also V.128 to V.130 (An-naam) in arabic: ila macha allahu which means "except what God wants"
From 103 to 108 (Hud)
v23 (an-naba) in arabic
V.35 (Al jaathiya )
the prophet mohamed talked about the last person in the hellfire who after he go in paradise in hadith Muslim Bukhari
God wrote in a book my mercy precedes my anger
I came to the conclusion as a Christian after many years of study that hell is more like a refiners fire. Nobody can enter heaven in its purity without being refined. God is good and merciful, unlike most humans, and he is merciful and forgiving,
This explanation sits comfortably with what I have learned.
God bless all my Muslim brothers and sisters and May Palestine be free ❤️
SubhanAllah, thank you for your work
Your video was really helpful.. jazakallahu khair. But can u tell me, what will happen 2 the people of hell when Allah extinguishes it? Will they too be destroyed? Or what will happen to them?
I believe the opinion is they will cease to exist
The wisdom behind eternal hellfire is that if a non believers were to live eternally he would never believe in Allah, therefore he deserves eternal hellfire. Dr Ally always brings forward most controversial opinions
With all due respect, this is absolute nonsense my friend. Nobody knows that, if let’s say someone rejects a certain religion at one point of his life he may come back on his word after deriving to different conclusions, it happened to me many, many times. A longer life implies changing your mind over certain topics. Let me use a different example if someone is a Muslim one day, there’s no assurance he will still be the next day and this is why we ask God to “Guide us to the True Path.” Also, your analogy is greatly flawed because you said IF, let’s say for arguments’ sake that you were right then what would be the point of creating him in the first place knowing he would never listen to his Creator? No, Dr. Ally does not bring forward controversial opinions, he’s using some evidence as well as his intellect but if you don’t want to listen to them then what’s the point of even watching his videos? 🙂
This is not a valid argument considering that people change all the time
Atheist here, previous Christian. Recently I've coming back to that the concept of God is so obviously true, but I couldn't go back to Christianity because I don't want to accept a God that thinks that mistakes in a finite life equals infinite pain. So to learn that Islam actually thinks different about this is super interesting.
Not all Christians believe in Hell.
Some believe in universal salvation.
I have been absolutely HATIng what Ive been hearing about the Islam religion lately but Dr Shabir Ally is such a refreshing voice of logic and If I were god, I'd make him my "front man." The things he says and his adherence to the words of the Quran instead of every other hadith seems so reasonable to me. I could see Islam becoming a kinder and embraceable religion if more muslims were like him.
God is the greatest Redeemer. If he is unable to redeem all, then he is a lesser redeemer than He could be.
Therefore as his redemption is the greatest one and his ability to redeem is the greatest, all must eventually return to him! None are outside his love, mercy and redemption.
Dont put your own philosophical ideas into gods nature. Allah is direct and tells us about his attributes. Hell is eternal
@@wolverinegonder9997 He is ALL merciful. He may or may not make it eternal, but you can't speak or confirm for him.
@@wolverinegonder9997 that punishment is very cruel
with although respect, Dr. Shabir ally did not let the Quran speak with not referring to even one verse of Quran about the topic. he spoke from himself
The video did make reference to Surah 7:156
In Quran 6:128, it is mentioned that hell will be forever, but then the exception is given, that is, except if your Lord wills otherwise.
In Surah Hud verses 106-108, there is description of people of hell and heaven. When God describes heaven, He says that heaven will remain forever except if your Lord wills otherwise, but the. The verse continues with the expresion that your Lord will not go against His promise.
But when Hell is mentioned, Allah says that Hell will remain forever, except if your Lord wills otherwise and then Allah says that He will do whatever He wills.
This difference should be pondered upon.
@@omerali2690 allah says he will never forgive SHERK which is partnering someone with god, so those people will forever remain in hell
@@wolfblockstrike2924 a man who is ungrateful to Allah all of his life here on earth and he did a lot of sin that we cannot imagine. but how long he lived his entire life? 100 years?
if Allah is just, and for sure he is just, then how could the punishment of that man be forever when he just lived for a hundred years? does a hundred years punishment is not enough to pay for his crimes?
it may seem forever to us isnt it?
Hello, I asked a question on Instagram do you check dms?
Safiya is asking all the right questions, catching Dr. Shabbir off guard.
Hey, she is his daughter and this question has been asked multiple times on this channel. Dr. Shabir knows very well these counter questions. 😊
@@omerali2690 I know very well that she is his daughter. The main question of course he knows the answer. What I referred to was the cross questioning In between, which Dr. Shabbir wasn't able to answer satisfactorily.
Astagfirullah, Jahannam is forever for some people - clearly mentioned in Qur'an. Unbelievable 🤦♂️
Exactly!
As mentioned here
So taste [punishment] because you forgot the meeting of this, your Day; indeed, We have [accordingly] forgotten you. And taste the punishment of eternity for what you used to do."
They should also say heaven is not forever and we will die again 😂
yep the reasoning is: Those who do more evil than good in a limited lifetime, are capable of an infinite amount of evil if given an infinite lifetime, and hence deserve eternal damnation...
@@noon6394 yep the reasoning is: Those who do more evil than good in a limited lifetime, are capable of an infinite amount of evil if given an infinite lifetime, and hence deserve eternal damnation...
@@noon6394 There is an exception to this rule
Salaam!
Dr Shabir,
Regarding your view about finite nature of eternal hell fire, Kindly compare it with Sura 35 verse 36 of the Holy Quran that says “ As for those who disbelieve, for them is the fire of hell wherein they will never be finished off and die, nor will it’s punishment be lightened for them. Though We will repay every ingrate”
I will much appreciate your response!
Jzklh
You have a point.