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Vauxhall Zafira B Front Disc And Pads Change Hell
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- čas přidán 8. 05. 2018
- Vauxhall Zafira B Front Disc And Pads Change Hell. In this video we change the front Discs and pads on this 2008 Vauxhall Zafira B. We also come up against a problem with Euro Car Parts who's customer service isn't all its cracked up to be.
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You should NEVER put copper grease all over the rear of the pads, you should only put them on the little ends/ears as this is the part where they sit on the carrier.
Big NEVER lol. This used to be the industry standard where most mechanics would do it in the 70's 80's 90's and even into the 20's now because of the internet. Every so called know it all preaches this. They even quote Edd Chyna says don't do it but in an earlier episode of Wheeler dealers, he put copperslip on the rear of some pads. It's true, you don't need it on today's vehicles as the anti squeal plates are so much better than years ago.
Do yourself a favor, don't just regurgitate stuff that you have heard others say.
I lived through those times where it was common practice. I don't really do it now but I understand why people of a certain age would still do it.
retrorestore as I work for Volkswagen I would understand I know what I’m saying. I understand it was common practise back in the day, but today’s vehicles don’t need them all over the rear, just on the ears as I said.
@@jtmgolden7825 Yes bud, I said that in my reply. I do love it when people say NEVER and don't explain why though. I'm sure you get my point bud
@@retrorestore I don't know a lot about cars but I would say, "NEVER put copper grease all over your bellend then eat Fish and Chips without washing your hands." I've seen a lot of old timers do it but things have changed! We use lithium grease for that sort of thing now :P
@@paps69shed So I'm a feckin "Old Timer" now am I?
I’ve never known any company to serve people as slowly as Euro car parts, does my swede in!!
Even if you "click & collect", you still have to join a queue and the counter staff still have to faff around picking the parts.
I thought it was just my local. It's the same where you are then. The other day the guy was processing a refund for wrong parts and he buggered off out the back and had his lunch. The other guy eventually asked if i was being served. When i explained, the original guy came back through scoffing his sandwich "sorry mate" like he forgot all about me. Atrocious service.
I must be one of the lucky ones because I always use Euro Car parts and never had a problem 👀 I bet i have just jinxed myself for my next Euro Car Part order!
Brilliant walkthrough. I have a 2011 Zafira and your vid, while not targeting exactly my motor, does a great job of explaining the step by step required for disassembly all the way through to everything put back together. I'll be double checking the disc size before completing my order tomorrow ;)
I was living in the UK for couple of years and I really miss common English folks like you! Greetings from PL.
Great to see a Brit doing car videos, one thing I would not personally do, is to use copper grease on the pins/sliders as it tends to gum them together after a while, I use silicone grease. Like you I have had problems with Euro Car Parts with wrong parts/sizes etc.
Yes, i'll be using silicone grease in the future Mart.
when you wind the brake calliper piston back in, when this forces the brake fluid back to the reservoir it does not stop when the reservoir is full, the system is vented so as not to create a vacuum, hence any excess fluid will escape out of the vent hole usually resulting in the fluid running down the inner wing/ bulkhead, if this is not then washed off it will eat into the paint then rust these items.
Good video Martin. You make it look so simple. Next time mine need doing I’ll try it myself. Never knew it was so easy. Only basic tools needed too.
I had the same problem with my front discs , but thanks to your nightmare I realised I had bought the smaller front discs from eurocarparts so I was able to go and get the larger size before starting ..... so cheers for that , .... keep up the great videos , they are brilliant for a bit of revision, before starting on my own car 👍🏻
Thanks for your help Sir, we're currently half way though changing our discs & pads, I've just had a look at the size of the disc and we have also been given the wrong ones, bloody euro car parts... That's the last time I use that company!
Super video!! I’ve had a brake disc size problem with euro parts. Luckily I clocked the size difference before installing!!!
Excellent informative vid Martin. I have the zafira b and will be tackling this job soon so cheers for the heads-up :)
Hi, look up Ed China's CZcams video on brake pad replacement. He explains why you should not use copper slip grease. It's to do with dissimilar metals, electrolysis etc and dust mixing with the grease causing ceasing up...Always a good idea to keep an idea on the brake reservoir level when pushing the pistons back 😉 Loving the videos by the way 👍 Real world repairs in a real world setting 😎
There is another episode where Edd puts copper slip on the back of brake pads. We've all done it in the past as this was the standard back then. Ask any mechanic of the 70's and 80's
Glad to see that you didn't use impact wrench on the caliper carrier bolts. I had fun removing carrier bolts on a Pug 206. They loosened slightly then locked up thanks to copious use of threadlok which almost beat the breaker bar. Had to tighten them then back them off a bit more. Took ages winding them out but had I used the windy gun on them, the bolt heads would have snapped.
great timing for this video, i`m getting a Zafira B this week
Nice simple job really.
Had this a few times myself! Trouble is now that manufacturers use mandatory different parts for the same model! My astra had 2 different sizes of discs listed and God knows how many different styles of pads. Great videos as always.
I had the same problem with my zafira B, it was made in the final year of production, so they used all sorts of bits and pieces from previous revisions. Mine had 5 variations of the air filter, 3 different brake pads, 4 different brake callipers, and a whole hoast of other crap.... Getting the brake pads, i had to check which calipers i had to match them to the pads.
i will never buy a car again thats in its last 2 years of production
I like euro car parts there great never had a wrong part with them most vauxhall have different size dics for the same model like my signum has 3 different size discs i always check the disc and pads before fitting them great video
nicely said bro but martin is a diamond geezer top bloke
I've just bought the same car, same disks, same pads from the same place (euro car parts)!!! Doing the job day after tomorrow! Was lookin forward to getting it done but I'm a bit apprehensive now! Great video mate! Cheers
You are the reason i am a mecanic now, youre video when you did the headgasket of corsa c. Thank you for sharing youre expierence.
Thanks bud. All the best.
Good stuff Martin. With regards to euro car parts, I had so many problems with them, that I stopped using them all together.
never ever order anything on line from euro car parts always go to the shop and take the part with you also they will lie to you on the phone when you ask if they have a part in stock
Great video as always I to dislike the way these big corporate firms treat people customers employees etc. Cheers all the best Steve.
brilliant video just done my front discs and pads and so easy after watching your video so much appricated thanks from andrew from shrewsbury
Glad the video helped Andrew.
You really do deserve a lot more subscribers with the amount of effort you put into these videos. Couldn't agree more regarding euro car parts they are a disgrace.
Another great video buddy
You make it look so easy
Keep up the good work and two fingers up to euro car parts.
They give me the wrong clutch kit for my focus.Did not realize till everything was stripped down.I got the comment "we don't usually make mistakes like this"Service is always slow too.Nice Rottweiler you got there.
great job martin, cleaning up the caliper carrier and slide pins is vital when doing pads and discs most garages tend to overlook this and just swap them out which is the main cause of one pad sticking and causing uneven wear.
At 18.50 the pad with the wear indicator should go on the inboard side of the disc not the outboard side. with the leading edge of the wear indicator facing the brake rotor during forward wheel rotation. Great videos and content and thank you for taking the amount of time and effort you do to produce quality content.
while this is normally true .. Zafira front brakes always have wear indicators on the outside .. the pad that clips in the piston doesn’t have one installed no matter which brand you use ..
Thanks for the video I found it useful , I’ve replaced the front brakes but just wondering if replacing rear brakes do you have to do anything different?
Cheers for the video! Helps a lot!
I had a similar problem a couple years ago with my Mk3 Avensis, which is 58 plate but a 2009 model - the year the range was released. This was an independent and they went by the car reg plate on their computer. It was when the discs were compared that we knew they were wrong. The discs were smaller and for the Mk2 Avensis. We checked the part numbers with the garage manual and back to the parts shop. The person said that licence plate is what they go by, but we told him the car is a T27 (Mk3), not the earlier T25 (Mk2) which can also have '58 plate.
I now have a a list of part numbers for my car, plus the specs, to help get the right parts and save wasted journey and time. I think ECP are good and the discounts worthwhile, so long as you do your homework and use their discount codes.
Love the spanner on the allen key, I have done that very often!
Great channel, thanks for the good content! Keep up the good work
Thanks bud
I now always take the old part in, even with a local parts shops. I have learned the hard way, usually on a Sunday afternoon, when everything is closed and you realise you cant carry on with two left handed track rod ends.
Great video
Thanks for sharing also loved your video on shed building I used your tips and save so much money.look forward to working on my car now after watching your video thanks again 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank for this video. It is a help for me . Thank you so much.👏👏
16:35 you have at least a one true friend who will always cover your back in these difficult times. Lol I wish I had one exactly like yours:)
I learned a long time ago, the hard way, to always take the old part with you , and compare the parts before you leave... I live in north west ohio , U S .
Never really had a problem with ECP I use them quite often. Always read the fitment detail box that comes up and if in doubt measure first before ordering
Surprisingly I’ve never had no problems with Eurocarparts but there’s always a first time I must be Lucky good video Martin like always 👍
Never use copper grease on the sliders as it goes hard. By the look of the black crap on the sliders someone used copper grease on them before.
Yes I should have use a different grease.
retrorestore I recommend silicone grease as it’s friendly to rubber parts 😉 petroleum based grease on rubber can react with it.
nice, i'll look into that.
Yeah i was going to say exactly the same thing as Hard Worker.Silicon is the way forward Martin.
silicone paste is best for slides.
I feel your pain! I have had the same problem with euro car parts, they sent me the rear discs instead of the front not once but twise!!!! Utter useless!
Great video as per usual 👍
Twice*
Great job Martin .
Hi, after watching all of your videos over the last 6 years I have taken the plunge and bought a 27 year old Land Rover Defender 90 200tdi, now I have my own project. I hope to have it finished in a few months. I just need you to get one so I can follow you.lol wish me luck.....Paul
Nice one Paul, Treat it as a hobby and have fun.
Cheers
Martin
Hi Martin, yes your right with euro car part sort of places, but even smaller place are the same. I bought a van from a dealership professional frontage loads of newish vans, I had a few problems they were very unprofessional dealing with me and lied to me saying an injector had been fixed when it wasn't, also to top it off that complained about the vehicle I traded in I've been around car people all my life and I've never ever heard of a dealership doing that. Anyway good vid thanks🙂👍
Martin, As you and I are buying parts on a regular bases i know how frustrating this can be but for me i can‘t pop down the road lol. Cheers Dave.
Great job done just remember next time use silicon grease on the sliding pins also take the old disc with you and compare them with the new disc when you get there if you can get a lift that is that will always save you a lot of trouble.
I feel your pain, Although it wasn't euro car parts, I bought a pair of discs for my Rover 75 off fleabay, stripped all mine off yesterday & then came time to fit the new discs, Opened the parcel to find they had sent the wrong discs (for a KA), As the seller was only about 15 miles away I thought I could just take them back & they would change them, Phoned them up & was told I couldn't take them back for a swap, So I asked them if they would send the correct ones,,,,,,,No was the answer & refunded me my payment instead, So now my car is sitting on axle stands until I get the chance to get the correct ones,,,,But they can get stuffed if they think I am going to pay the postage to return the wrong ones. I will sell them as my compensation!!.
LOL. I've never had a problem with ECP. Every part I've ordered has been correct and spot on.
they take ages to serve customers, even if it's like a bottle of screenwash or something it will take 5-15 minutes and that is with an empty queue
I noticed you fitted Eicher discs & pads. Eicher is Euro Car Parts in house 'own brand', they are manufactured by TMD friction in Scotland 👍
I fully agree with you on ECP.. I have had nothing but issues and I really don't use them much anymore.. 2 weeks for a set of wiper blades to arrive, orders being split into several packages days and days apart.. not ideal when youre trying to do a DIY service! Orders being delivered to wrong house was the most annoying.. they recently moved distribution centres and they really messed themselves up big time.
No way. I had the same problem with Euro car parts. It was 16:00 on a Sunday afternoon so I was humped. It was the first and last time I used them. Their pads were a real bad fit also. Every time you went forward to reverse the pads were moving and clucking. It was not my car so I had to buy decent pads somewhere else at my expense as I could not return the poor ones as they had been used for about 100 miles. It gives my work a bad name. The woman was not happy who's car it was. She had bought the parts herself though thank goodness. I only found this channel 3 days ago. Vids are great. So car the tranny van has been the best.
Its a common theme through all the comments Jim. Glad you are enjoying the vids.
Cheers
Martin
Always a pain when you have choices on the discs etc. but should be stated on the website Martin.
Talk about getting your proverbial chain jerked around. I'm sorry to see there's so much rigamarole over such common parts, Martin. Now we've learned to verify parts with national customer service.
Also clean the face of the hub up before you put new discs on. Also always match parts up before you fit!!
I suppose its a case of 'speak as you find' Martin. My local ECP store in Wrexham offer a pretty good service to be fair. I've bought loads of stuff off them over the years and not had to take much back because its been the wrong part. Granted, they're a long way from perfect - and the queue's to the till are always huge! - which shows how competitive/popular they are, I suppose. There are two other local car parts suppliers in my area and I usually phone all three for quotes on parts, and 9 times out of 10 ECP are the cheapest. I recently serviced a friends Zafira B (including front and rear discs/pads) and ECP were £100 cheaper for all the parts than the other two suppliers. Like I said, speak as you find :)
you need to physically measure your old disc not just give your registration as theres often more than one size available- ie a 150bhp zaf will have bigger brake discs than the 120 ,but that's the least of your worries as it will probably just go up in flames anyhow..hahahaha
Euro car parts are a waste of time, ordered A coil Pack for Vauxhall Astra and the wire plug did not fit!!
Got a rear caliper for a bmw and give me the wrong side and bits missing! Anyway great video as usual! 👍
I ordered a coil pack for my Zafira B, when I got it home and opened the box, it had a 2nd hand and what looked like a coil pack for a Corsa C in it, I rang them up straight away and explained the situation, after a bit of haggling, they delivered a new one within the hour. . Always check the box before u leave the store !
Its just another day in the office for Euro Car Prats...
Thanks for the video...great info ....
Never had any issues with ECP either, and ive used them for more years than i remember. Interestingly enough, after owning a Vectra C for over 8 years, when you whipped the wheel off I recognised the Caliper as being a 302mm variant.
The squealing is caused by the vibrations resulting from pressure applied to the ungreased back of the pads. The grease permits them to slide around quietly as they vibrate when you step on the brake pedal. Also, don't forget to remove the cosmolene (that's what we call it here, anyway) packing grease from the discs before installing them. Otherwise, you'll put the brakes on and you'll get a nasty surprise as the vehicle keeps right on going. Not fun!
Great vid Martin 👍 We have to deal with Euro car parts all the time send wrong parts and the warranty claim process is fun and we are in the trade and they are buying up all the small motor factors like andrew page.
Is that correct?, Only I had dealings with Andrew Page only yesterday who managed to send me the wrong discs via fleabay, unless of course euro are using that trade name. Were far from helpful that's for sure.
no1froggy LKQ Corporation own Euro car parts, car parts for less and now andrew page from late 2016 i believe
Martin, fantastic tutorial about how to change brake pads/discs. Shame about the part hassle. Keep up the great work
Fred Locke, top bloke. Did all my brake work back in the day.
This guy is magic. Even changing brake pads made me laugh with the rant about euro car parts. 😄
You gotta have a rant now and again bud lol
Afternoon Mart
Great video mate , just the same happened to me regarding a oil filter for my sons corsa , they gave me the wrong one , Euro car parts are 15 miles from me and I couldn’t be bothered to drive there to replace it , so I went to my local car factors instead thinking a replacement oil filter will be twice the price of Euro car parts but sod it, anyway they gave me the correct filter and it was £2 cheaper
There you go, they are not what they are cracked up to be. Heard this type of thing so many times.
For my own car I buy from the dealer directly, they always give trade prices and the price is only very slightly higher, but you get an OEM part and the part is always right.
2:37 your secrets safe with me mate😁
Haha, we've all been there Leon lol
Great video Martin very in depth you should have your only telly program restoring stuff, do you still have your transit van ?
Yes awaiting a new sill the other side.
Owning a Zafira is hell enough.
Hey, Martin, I see that you guys are working under the shade tree... good fix.
Haha, yes George, you can't beat it lol
I love your videos keep it up
Cheers bud.
Just changed discs and pads on my car , bought top notch Brembo parts, from euro parts had identical problem to video, shop assured me they where correct, they, after an activation they agreed they gave me wrong ones, what a hassle I've had.
Common problem .always take old part to compare. Great vids keep up the good work
Not always possible Mart.
At least compare the part before fitting
I just love hindsight lol
It's not just ecp it's major dealership as well .changing bolts to different types .I now have a bigger tool set than ever before .drives the DIY er to give up .
I like your video of Vauxhall zafira b
Used to use Euros every day. They got new ownership a couple of years ago & it seems they went down hill fast from that point. You can tell from the staff morale things are not good. I now give my business to two or three of the smaller factors in my area & they go the extra mile to make my life easier!
Same issue recently with renault discs and a rear lamp cluster. Stopped using ECP now.
fantastic videos
I’ve had a problem with euro car parts too. I got all the things to service my car and it was all successful until a few months down the line when I went to start my car and it wouldn’t start and when it did it misfired. Turned out the spark plugs I had was at fault.
Great video as usual. Shame about Euro car parts, a familiar story sadly!
Yes it's the exact same here in Scotland I've had nothing but problems with eurocarparts and is now why I do not use them any longer
had the same hassle with euro car parts, if I use them now I take the part i need with me to match it up at the shop. good video tho.
As other have stated ECP shows more than one size available but they do state to make sure you have the right size before ordering. On the bright side I always end up using discount codes for car clubs and they're 5 minutes down the road if they screw anything up.
I got sent some cheap 10w40 when I actually purchased some better quality 5w30 from euro car parts! Similar thing you said, even the guy at the desk said the customer service is useless
Nice job, proper geeza, like your English, my teacher at college had proper old British English, when I was student learning motor vehicle repairs at college, he had 30 yeas experience.
Thanks! 😃
Brill video thanks
Great video Martin just goes to show not all plain sailing.
Just one thing caliper spring on outside sits under the the bracket not between bracket and caliper.
Keep Lee locked out 6.16 he will only wind you up even more.
Yes the spring is sorted now Frustration with ECP made me do it lol, Lee was locked outside as well as to not wind me up haha
Well l did not have too much trouble doing the front discs and pads...but it was quicker dismantle to whole lot..but just check on you pads...
Rear ones were a bit more tricky...even resetting the hand brake...
You can reduce the brake noise by simply chamfering a 45° angel on the leading edge..
It's that corner that bounces...the copper slip is like glue behind the pad...keep them steady, but you do not need much..
Well done..you seem to work on these Zafira cars...a lot
Mechanic's dream... customers nightmare 😅
Nice 1 jst fitted my rear discs and pads and I havnt lock threaded them I didn't no so will do that 2moz an I agree eurocar parts are are a pain that's why I stopped buying from them good video
Great video. What size are the brake pads? I have a zifara B design.
Had the same problem with my mk 4 golf front discs and it took Euro Car parts two goes to get it right.
Must admit never used loctite on bolts , just torque them down to FT LOL
had problems with ecp as well as many other motor factors they never give a toss or take responsibility just cough up the difference or nothing will be done and that's what i've to face with anyways but after a few bad experiences I always always check the correct parts before purchase.
Hey I’m in the USA and I feel ur pain we have similar stores that do the same thing to me but you always end up going back to them again and they know you will but nice video and good luck
Cheers Brian
When I saw brake disc he'll I laughed and thought you had the same trouble as my ducato van as the discs were welded to the hub. After two days even with a sledge hammer and meltdowns, tearing my eyebrows out in rage... I eventually took a cutting disc and a monkey wrench to snap them off in pieces... And yes euro parts sent me wrong pads once 🤣
That exact mix up happened to me when I changed my front discs on my zafira.. And it was euro car parts.
Just like woody woodpecker with that hammer! 😀
Nice video, would have done few bits differently myself, but got the job done safely which is the main thing at the end of the day, on the wrong parts, if your order them online they have a large notice saying there is more than one possible fitment, but really should be made much more obvious, if you rang them and ordered them whoever you spoke to is a muppet since they have a better system but its not perfect but would help sort this one out at least.
I don't work for ECP, but have never had a problem but usually been lucky and already know the size etc of what I need, if it is of an interest I do work in the parts trade (breakers yard), the best way to match a lot of things up is with photos/measurements or to the actual part itself, do have one system( have also personally bookmark 10+ websites from various places when out of luck on that one)
It helps to narrow things down but it's far from perfect, and depending on the manufacturer you will still have 4/5 different variants, sometimes with notes to help select the correct one but not always so lucky, just the way cars are made, and its gets even more fun with older cars that have been messed around with people do some odd things to cars!!
Every variance in a part fitted does have a reason, but sometimes and much more than you would think in this day and age its bloody hard to find out what the hell they were thinking when they made these differences and have they ever bothred to actually tell anybody!
Ecp are a nightmare, inaccurate listings online, wrong parts, sometimes hardware missing, damaged packaging, poor counter service...from what I can tell they’re only interested in the telesales to trade. Personally I avoid them at all costs and go online and which half the time is no worse than ecp