Post-Soviet Transit: How Free Market Competition Can Ruin A City

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  • čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
  • All these nice things we have are the result of a tough competition between their makers striving to create the best product at the best price. But the world is complicated, and while in most cases competition leads to prosperity and wealth, there are areas where it can lead to a disastrous decline. This happened with public transport in Russia and other Post-Soviet countries on their transition to the free market economy: great public transit systems were destroyed in a span of a few years, losing to brisk and flexible marshrutkas, the worse public transportation experience!
    Voice-over: Grant Bolton
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Komentáře • 187

  • @TomCouger
    @TomCouger Před 3 lety +140

    Such an underrated CZcams channel.

    • @johnhockenhull2819
      @johnhockenhull2819 Před 3 lety +5

      And it would be so much better if he used his own voice rather than this impersonal voiceover.

  • @coconspirator
    @coconspirator Před 3 lety +65

    Watching this in a marshrutka stuck in traffic, packed like a can of sardines... I hate my life (and marshrutkas)

    • @Me-eb3wv
      @Me-eb3wv Před 3 lety +1

      :(

    • @horribleIRUKANDJI
      @horribleIRUKANDJI Před 3 lety +4

      @Firecraft Pyro yeah, and then he can comfortably watch youtube videos while standing in a traffic jam 😅

    • @kevinsandow5354
      @kevinsandow5354 Před 3 lety +1

      @Firecraft Pyro That's not a solution at all.

  • @dzarkadas
    @dzarkadas Před 3 lety +93

    Brilliant. Your narration and overall quality of production is superb. As an urban planner I agree with everything you said. Your channel deserves more subscribers.

    • @RailwaysoftheWorld1
      @RailwaysoftheWorld1  Před 3 lety +21

      Thank you! It's nice to hear that a professional agrees with my naive amateur judgements :)

  • @ivveG
    @ivveG Před 2 lety +23

    As a Russian, can confirm! They are fast and frequent, but not reliable for long term development of the city. Real good public transit may be more expensive and hard to set up at first, but in the long term it's way more profitable for the city as a whole. Thanks for a great video, your research and narration are splendid.

  • @MrTarmonbarry
    @MrTarmonbarry Před 3 lety +88

    Kharkiv has recently installed a new route of trolley bus with all new overhead lines and have replaced the marshrutka on another with trolley bus that run part of the route on the overhead lines and the rest on the batteries , it works fine , a lot more comfortable and close to the same frequency as the marshrutka . its to cut down on traffic and pollution

    • @thedamntrain8700
      @thedamntrain8700 Před 3 lety +7

      Actually, it's still a lot of marshrutkas in Kharkiv. In the city centre, at the airport, in neighborhoods around the city. They have bigger capacity than typical Gazelle (apr. up to 50 people) but this type of transport is still too uncomfortable and even dangerous.

    • @ligametis
      @ligametis Před 3 lety +5

      Vilnius, Lithuania has banned marshrutkas 6 or 7 years ago. Only public city transport is left in the center. Marshrutkas can still service those more remote outskirts, suburbs locations where are no buses.

    • @smoussie
      @smoussie Před 3 lety +6

      Kharkiv is full of marshrutkas. Green horrible boxes. The noise of their brakes is the first thing you will hear when you’ll arrive to Kharkiv. And you’ll be hearing this noise literally always when you’re in the city. BAZ A079 which is basically TATA LPT 613 truck based bus. Awful thing, the exhaust system feels like goes inside of the cabin, so passengers can experience some nazi concentration camp. It’s hot like a hell in a summer, cold as fuck in the winter, you need to be acrobat to stand in this shit and it’s always banked to the left side...

    • @MrTarmonbarry
      @MrTarmonbarry Před 3 lety +1

      @@smoussie Ah yes , green horrible boxes but they move people around very cheaply . The council is trying to reduce the amount of them and replace them with trolley bus where they can but in some places it is not practical and the cost of installing a new route is huge . They put a new one that comes to where i live , it goes to Heroiv Pratsi , the number 47 , massive amount of money . They have also put in the number 48 route but not all the overhead lines yet for power so they run part of it on the batteries , its not ideal but they have a work around . I know what you mean about the noise of brakes , a terminus is very close to me , then traffic lights and yes, the brakes scream a bit now and then

    • @yuriythebest
      @yuriythebest Před 3 lety

      @@ligametis when I lived in Vilnius for a year ( I'm from Ukraine), I was amazed at the army of buses and trolleybuses, and they had a SCHEDULE - if a bus was 1-2 mins later than on the schedule this meant it was "late" lol.

  • @etherealis1943
    @etherealis1943 Před 2 lety +5

    We had these in Lithuania (but I can speak only in regards of the capital) until 2013. Not only Marshrutkas, but we had private carriers with 12 m buses running along the same routes as the most crowded municipal routes did. They had a conductor with a bag who collected a fare from the passengers.

  • @shtetc
    @shtetc Před 3 lety +39

    You definitely have a talent! It's nice to listen, everything is clear and understandable

    • @RailwaysoftheWorld1
      @RailwaysoftheWorld1  Před 3 lety +19

      Thank you, but that's just a carefully chosen voice-over actor 😃 If you check out earlier videos, I myself don't speak well

  • @died4us590
    @died4us590 Před 2 lety +18

    If you go to NFKRZ's channel, he tells you how bad it was having to take these vans to college. I believe in his video that came out today, he said his city is getting rid of the vans soon. He has a large youtube channel and is moving to st. petersburg from his current big city. Just found your channel and subbed. I have an interest in russia, because my grandpa was a medic during ww2, and he along with some russian soldier's liberated some concentration camp survivor's that had been on a forced death march. The soldier's from russia and america gave what food they had to these men who were dying from malnutrition, quicker than they could get supplies in. I was the only one he told some of the horrific thing's that happened during the war. God bless.

  • @asiersanz8941
    @asiersanz8941 Před 3 lety +19

    Public transport may be expensive in economic terms, but it is enormously cheap in social terms. And helps running the economy of cities. Plus the right of moving from one place to another should be compelling for every authority in the world, no matter if you are a disabled person or a parent.

    • @kevinsandow5354
      @kevinsandow5354 Před 3 lety +4

      Yeah and the problem is that it is not REALLY more expensive if you take in account the market externalities generated by other forms of transportation that are so bad for the environment and the wellbeing of people in cities. Yes minibuses are cheaper to run but omg that just looks like a distopic fumed, noisy and jammed future.

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 Před 2 lety +4

      If you look at the overall turnaround generated by public transit vs private forms public transit is actually a lot more profitable. While the city transit company might itself not be profitable public transit generates so much GDP growth that the city and state will end up making more money off it in the end through taxes. It's rather simple to figure out why this is, regardless of what form of transit a city uses it still has to pay for road and utilities maintenance but with public transit the city can actually earn back a bit of what it spent on those things and it can also make sure that the infrastructure it builds is used in the most efficient way possible. We've all seen those diagrams of how much space 50 people in cars vs in buses vs on bikes takes up but it's not just about the traffic because each square meter of road used is more road that the city has to build and pay the maintenance of. So basically in the end public transit does end up being more cost effective, you just have to look at the whole system which would be common sense to everyone if it wasn't for neoliberalism which has managed to convince us that considering the nuances and context is somehow the wrong thing to do.

  • @saltedpopcorn2424
    @saltedpopcorn2424 Před 3 lety +18

    As someone who is half russian and who visits russia regularly to visit relatives and friends, can confirm everything in this video is very accurate.

  • @biryux6566
    @biryux6566 Před 2 lety +6

    Sorry for my bad English, I am a Russian guy. During the last several years the situation with marshrutkas (at least, in my town) has turned better. Marshrutkas are operated under contract with local government, the operators are required to service the contracted route from early morning till late evening, to accept Troika cards (universal ticket, similar to Oyster cards in Britain) and Moskvitch's cards (providing free travel for senior people and discount travel for students). The contracted routes are different from the routes of town public transport and typically have lower commuter flow. Old "gazelles" have been retired and replaced with new minibuses, typically Ford's. However, the situation is still quite worse on the routes serving the suburban area and neighbor towns ('sputnik-towns'), probably because taking control under them causes bureaucratical conflicts between the town and oblast' (county) governments.

    • @ricktownend9144
      @ricktownend9144 Před rokem +2

      really interesting - your English is fine, by the way - a lot better than my Russian!

    • @koiyujo1543
      @koiyujo1543 Před 5 měsíci

      I heard life was better when commuism was still around and it's sad to see what capitalism has turned your country into as an American I'm sorry for what happened and how capitalism destroyed your peoples freedom

  • @unconventionalideas5683
    @unconventionalideas5683 Před 2 lety +6

    Note also that Asian Public Transit Systems are profitable even though they are rail based. Hong Kong's system worked well and thrived in spite of the presence of Public Light Buses. Of course, those were better regulated than Marshrutka, which may have something to do with it.

  • @hbarudi
    @hbarudi Před 3 lety +11

    Public transportation is always important and I think cities need to just make it better and more cost effective than before.

  • @stivvits1067
    @stivvits1067 Před 2 lety +5

    Moscow actually banned marshrutkas in 2017. I wish more Russian cities will pay more attention to public transit

  • @fuckfannyfiddlefart
    @fuckfannyfiddlefart Před 3 lety +9

    It's also less efficient in terms of LABOUR TIME!!

  • @dav948
    @dav948 Před 3 lety +6

    This reminded me of the (pre-Covid) Friday and Saturday night central London Uber Prius chaos!

  • @bertspeggly4428
    @bertspeggly4428 Před 3 lety

    Very professional work. Well done!

  • @estevaodealmeidasilveira3822

    Here, in São Paulo, Brazil, we have this same situation in 90's.... organized crime made a lot of money, threatened and killed a lot of people.....thank god we managed to resolve the situation in the 2000s

  • @justinleemiller
    @justinleemiller Před 3 lety +1

    I just discovered this channel! It's great. Keep up the good work!

  • @D.A.A.321
    @D.A.A.321 Před 2 lety

    This all is so true, thank you for the video!

  • @thebiggerbyte5991
    @thebiggerbyte5991 Před 2 lety +1

    Absolutely agree! As someone who got dragged down the road half-in, half-out of a marshrutka's door because the driver wasn't paying attention, I much prefer the proper buses.

  • @railmaster.7752
    @railmaster.7752 Před 2 lety

    Tanks! A relevant topic!

  • @rambojambone4586
    @rambojambone4586 Před 2 lety

    What a great video. More great news I never heard about.

  • @JohnDoe-gc1pm
    @JohnDoe-gc1pm Před 2 lety +1

    The UK outside London has bus competition. The county pays for unprofitable services and for free travel passes.

  • @live-br6dt
    @live-br6dt Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for video! Спасибо за видео!

  • @GBA811
    @GBA811 Před 2 lety +3

    It does remind me of the clandestine transport vans in São Paulo in the same era, until sucessive mayors were elected and ended this type of transport, no more vans but minibuses, while they are private operators, they are subzided and run in routes defined and by the city. The problem is that organized crime uses this privative companies for money laudering.

  • @darek4488
    @darek4488 Před 2 lety +1

    Public transportation is very important. I want as much vehicles out of my way when I am driving.

  • @wainber1
    @wainber1 Před rokem

    When I think of a video posted late last month by the Not Just Bikes CZcams man (a resident of the Dutch capital Amsterdam, but born in London, in the southwest of the Canadian province of Ontario) on the jitney system in the Bahamas (title: “This tiny island has insane traffic“), I think of a local equivalent to what in many post-Soviet states are known as marshrutkas.

  • @josdesouza
    @josdesouza Před 3 lety

    Spot on, buddy!

  • @rezaalan3991
    @rezaalan3991 Před 2 lety

    In my country, we have sharing taxi like this and every region have their own names. For city routes, Some cities called it Angkot or Bemo, meanwhile for connecting between city and rural area, some cities named it Angkodes. Some sharing taxi even running on short distance intercity trip.

  • @CC-rx9ty
    @CC-rx9ty Před 3 lety

    Great Video

  • @o_s-24
    @o_s-24 Před 3 měsíci

    It took the Yerevan authorities 33 years to get rid of those evil things (they definitely could've done it faster). In this time the marshrutkas completely eradicated the tram network and most of the trolleybus one. Luckily, some trolleybus routes survived, and now the system is expanding again!

  • @frank1015
    @frank1015 Před 3 lety +8

    You should talk about cubas fleet of vintage trams and buses still going down the roads

    • @marcelomarcos3568
      @marcelomarcos3568 Před 2 lety

      There are no trams in Cuba since a long time ago. The Hershey was an electric railway and now is nearly defunct.

  • @fhs7838
    @fhs7838 Před 3 lety +14

    The minibus service would be OK if they can be monitored by laws properly. At least HK's red van and green van (public 17~19 seats minibus) are OKish. But as I heard before, russia ,especially its traffic police is so corrupted that road traffic is a mess.
    In China, Beijing, we also had this minibus service running out of control in 90s~00s. At first, all passengers thought it was much better than BPTC's(Beijing biggest and state owned bus company) buses. Than, after many traffic accidents and rude drivers, and government and passengers couldn't stand any more, and all minibuses stopped service before 2007.
    Now we have "shared bikes" for the flexible "last mile" connection to the public transport, especially the Beijing Subway.
    Also, China has a very strict laws of who can operate public transport service, including "uber" service. Also government here sees the profit of good public transport can increase the land price.

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 Před 3 lety +2

      HK's "green vans" (essentially 16-seater minibuses e.g. Toyota Coaster without standing passengers) operate essentially the same as public buses, stopping only at designated bus stops with regular all-day timetables. Only the "red vans" can stop anywhere along the route they travel on. Heard they do face safety concerns though, since drivers sometimes speed (speedometer displays are now mandated in the buses' cabin as a result), but they do make sense along many of HK's smaller roads that are often about as densely populated as the larger main roads (that're already served by the more conventional full-sized (& usually double decker) public buses)

    • @Chikanuk
      @Chikanuk Před 2 lety +2

      This video more about "wild 90-s" and few years after. Right now several laws was passed what force minibus companies to take responsibility. And at least my town have some sort of balance between old and new system - for example state trolleys and buses now give discounts to everyone who pay with credit card, on top on usual stuff for elderly, youngsters, etc.
      Also uber-like taxi take big chunk of client base from marshrutkas.
      Still feel sorry for towns which lost their trolleys and trolleybuses.

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 Před 2 lety +1

      Barcelona also has mini-buses as part of their system and they function really well as an in-between on lines where a regular bus might not make sense.

    • @michelletomaino8311
      @michelletomaino8311 Před 2 lety

      It would be ok if they got new buses

  • @countpoolnoodleiii99
    @countpoolnoodleiii99 Před 3 lety +1

    I really like this take on public transit and I think a lot of it goes for public infrastructure as a whole in a lot of ways.

  • @ryanzacsanders
    @ryanzacsanders Před 3 lety

    again a very good video

  • @wellardme
    @wellardme Před 3 lety +1

    Amazing video! As an Englishman who's been in Russia for 15 years, I can say you're 100% accurate!

  • @dogameda
    @dogameda Před 3 lety +4

    You could say the same about the England once glorious train services

  • @Eltaurus
    @Eltaurus Před 2 lety +1

    "Троллейбус горит? Да и хуй с ним!"

  • @Tom-Lahaye
    @Tom-Lahaye Před 3 lety +2

    Good informative documentary.
    Marshrutkas are similar to the minibusses that you will find all over Africa and many countries in SE Asia, where a proper public transport system can't be sustained due to lack of money or interest from authorities.
    But the same is sadly true in the richer parts of the world where the public transport has been privatised, first to fall where the services in unprofitable hours and regions, or brought back to a minimum when tenders written out prompt operators to have some form of service in these conditions.
    For instance, when I want a bus service from my village, not far away from towns, I have to call the bus operator and make a reservation and then they will send a minibus, it ceases operation after 20:00.
    I rather would like a good service in a 10 or 15 year old bus than new busses every 5 years because they have to meet certain standards for their busses in the tenders.

    • @anthonybanchero3072
      @anthonybanchero3072 Před 2 lety

      These minibuses sound a lot like jitneys of 20th Century America.

  • @user-gc1hg9sp9k
    @user-gc1hg9sp9k Před 3 lety +5

    We have same public transport like matsruka in indonesia, it's called angkot

    • @MrTarmonbarry
      @MrTarmonbarry Před 3 lety

      The marshrutka in Kharkiv are from your part of the world

    • @hermenegildoc3933
      @hermenegildoc3933 Před 3 lety

      @@MrTarmonbarry in Spain they are call micro , they are common in Spanish rural areas

    • @winters4960
      @winters4960 Před 2 lety

      "ANGKOT" is like privately or even individual owned mode of transport except (only) the *fare* is regulated by local govt. Causing traffic jam by occupying whole lane, risky manuver, competition, unreliable timetable, unsafe, lack of regulation&control by municipal govt, etc.

  • @unconventionalideas5683
    @unconventionalideas5683 Před 2 lety +1

    Tram and trolleybus operators also suffered heavily from corruption, so government support was often much less than it nominally ways.

  • @warmike
    @warmike Před 3 lety +1

    There should be competition, but there must be requirements for carriers to only high capacity buses, so vans and minibuses don't create traffic jams, and they must accept preferential tickets and work until midnight/1am. And a tram CAN win a free market competition with a bus, if it's separated from the road. While buses have to wait in traffic jams, trams have a separate line and are not slowed down.

    • @lkrnpk
      @lkrnpk Před 2 lety

      Yeah it's more a problem that these services are not regulated enough (or at all), then again the more they are regulated the less ''free market'' they are (city gives out subsidies etc. to cover the less popular routes and buy new busses), so then you end just with a proper public transit but kinda like private and municipal partnership

    • @warmike
      @warmike Před 2 lety +1

      @@lkrnpk and that's exactly what is needed

  • @mcuhacking
    @mcuhacking Před 2 lety

    Яндекс закадровый переводчик творит чудеса! Очень интересно, кстати про мой родной город Астрахань тоже упомянули, где маршрутки уничтожили весь общественный транспорт

  • @fasa3422
    @fasa3422 Před rokem +2

    If post Soviet countries had proper government, they would have regulated the sector

  • @azukiminazuki397
    @azukiminazuki397 Před 3 lety +1

    But there was also marshrutkas in Soviet Union (as state service). It was mostly RAF Latvia.

  • @BillDeef
    @BillDeef Před 3 lety

    Yours is a measured evaluation. People nowadays cannot see the forest for the trees.

  • @Zheka67rus
    @Zheka67rus Před 3 lety +3

    Это видео навело меня на мысль, как быстро эвалюционирует транспорт. Приятно было увидеть автобус гармошка. В городе Вязьма 10 лет назад они ещё ходили вместе с старенькими лиазами. Проезд стоил 8 рублей. На сегодняшний день в городе нет ниодного хорошего автобуса их заменили газели и неудобные добитые пазики. Проезд по городу стоит 21 рубль.

    • @RailwaysoftheWorld1
      @RailwaysoftheWorld1  Před 3 lety +5

      Как по мне это эволюция в неправильном направлении ☠️

    • @Zheka67rus
      @Zheka67rus Před 3 lety +1

      Я живу не в самом городе Вязьма, а в спальном районе и иногда себя балую. Еду в город не на маршрутке на на рельсовом автобусе. Правда от дома 1 км до платформы. Но оно того стоит))) сразу атмосфера путешествия. Платформа в березововом лесу, природа, тишина и только звук дизеля и стук колёс.

    • @RailwaysoftheWorld1
      @RailwaysoftheWorld1  Před 3 lety +1

      @@Zheka67rus это очень классно!

    • @ImreSaks
      @ImreSaks Před 3 lety +1

      10 лет назад рубль был 3 раза дороже, 3х8=24 => сейчас дешевле))))

    • @MrKhabirov
      @MrKhabirov Před 3 lety +2

      Инфляция же, 8 рублей 10 лет назад дороже чем 21 сейчас. Скажем «спасибо» нашим политикам

  • @mayanlogos92
    @mayanlogos92 Před 2 lety

    i myself do not linke much marshrutka cs u always have to tell the driver where to stop, but in rest they do win much time indeed, plus their easier to get crowded than a bus or trolley bus, which I love, trolleybuses..

  • @sammynasery2228
    @sammynasery2228 Před 3 lety +1

    Marshruka = Angkot in my country Indonesia but now have competitor a motorcycle online taxi

  • @jimmyj1969
    @jimmyj1969 Před 3 lety +1

    So, how is situation of public transportation today in Russia?
    I know that they 've been improvements in p.t., but are matsutkas still a thing?

    • @RailwaysoftheWorld1
      @RailwaysoftheWorld1  Před 3 lety +4

      Sadly, this video describes the current situation. Very few cities (Moscow, Kazan) managed to get rid of marshrutkas (long ago), a few more announced plans to do so until 2022-2025.

    • @mr.t2553
      @mr.t2553 Před 2 lety +1

      I can confirm that marshrutkas are everywhere and their as**ole drivers that do not give a damn about the security of their passengers continue to be involved in accidents all the time. Half of them are just a big bunch of rust with holes everywhere badly filled with paint primer. I had the 'luck' to see how these Gazelle mini-busses are repaired and put back on the road... It is appalling. Also, the 'funny' part is that most of these genius businessmen are actually not really making money (if making any money at all) as they make the cheapest repair to the vehicle and, as could be expected, this repair does not last and has to be done again regularly. So between standing times during repairs and the cost of these many repairs + the cost of the license (they pay a certain amount per month for using a certain line and time), they do not have much remaining.
      The ones making money are the people that bought the licenses from the city (family and friends of mayors or other people in administration) and then sub-rent these licenses to drivers.

    • @jimmyj1969
      @jimmyj1969 Před 2 lety +1

      @@mr.t2553 Like taxi-drivers but with minibuses! A nightmare!

  • @haroldcampbell3337
    @haroldcampbell3337 Před rokem +2

    I lived in Russia for 5 years. The problem isn't capitalism, it's gross negligence and corruption.

  • @alephthiago
    @alephthiago Před rokem

    I am Brazilian and in my opinion, the URSS > Russia history is probably the most fascinating because we have been bombarbed by USA and Europe movies, midia and news but nothing of URSS and China. Getting to know how different types of governments and economy reflects on the daily lives is amusing

  • @AndreyS333_10
    @AndreyS333_10 Před 3 lety +6

    Everything is as it is. From myself, i will add that in minibuses, even sitting, it is dangerous to drive, since from such a ride you can fly out of the seats, not to mention driving standing up, where there are mo handrails at all, for which you can hold on. Minibuses are not designed to transport people at all. I hate minibuses and always choose tram/trolleybus/bus.

    • @petrfedor1851
      @petrfedor1851 Před 3 lety +1

      Minibuses are sometimes used as regular buses in low population areas in Czechia but they are in various aspect more akin regular buses, just smaller.

  • @qjtvaddict
    @qjtvaddict Před 3 lety +2

    Post soviet transit sounds like public transport in the US and African countries (now)

  • @AlexCab_49
    @AlexCab_49 Před 3 lety

    This kinda reminds me of uber and lyft, on how they seem to be better than taxis or even public transport but have serious problems like causing more congestion, pollution and lowering the wages of most drivers.

  • @zarzavattzarzavatt9309

    Luckily, many cities are gradually getting rid of them. Hi from Chisinau

  • @Obitatel_Eestu
    @Obitatel_Eestu Před 4 měsíci

    Не зря говорил Варламов что Пазики для деревень годятся , а не для городов

  • @eugenia9999
    @eugenia9999 Před 2 lety

    Пересмотрел видео и полностью согласен, всё-таки общественный транспорт очень важная вещь в городе, который должен быть организован грамотно и выполнять в т.ч. определенные социальные функции.

  • @justaboringjoha3678
    @justaboringjoha3678 Před 2 lety

    0:08
    Apple: oh what, i didnt listen.

  • @ShadowWizard123
    @ShadowWizard123 Před 3 lety +1

    3:31 My wife drives exactly like that

  • @sergeychernyshov7469
    @sergeychernyshov7469 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow, man, how do you know the situation with public transport in Russia so good?

  • @azukiminazuki397
    @azukiminazuki397 Před 3 lety

    2:15 о, это ж Луидор, у меня дядя на таком работает (хоть и не по городу)

  • @fpswhore9973
    @fpswhore9973 Před 2 lety

    As someone who's country 5 years ago had better and big buses running in the roads compared to now where owners are fitting 45 seats in a 28 seats s bus I fell this very personally.

  • @gabrieltomte7723
    @gabrieltomte7723 Před 3 lety

    I live in a country with a functioning judicial system, and I have never seen any vehicle drive that recklessly. It seems to me like the problem lies with corruption/lack of trafic police. Also, if there was a higher sales tax on the profitable routes/hours that money could be awarded to other bus companies for providing service on unprofitable routes.

  • @flinx
    @flinx Před 3 lety +3

    You say good public transit is expensive and requires subsidies to provide service especially in unprofitable areas and times of day. So it would be valuable if the video compared that expense to how much it would cost cities to pay Mashrutkas for service in those places and times.
    The conclusions in the last minute don't consider whether a hybrid approach will work and what it will cost. Use large high capacity vehicles on busy routes, and pay Mashrutkas for service elsewhere.

    • @RailwaysoftheWorld1
      @RailwaysoftheWorld1  Před 3 lety +18

      I now see that I forgot to make an important note: in the end, "marshrutkas" are only bad in the part where they provide a poor transit service. There is nothing wrong with private transit companies (as long as they are regulated) or mini-buses themselves (if their capacity is enough). Actually many cities work this way: city council buys transportation service of predetermined volume and quality from a private company, and that private company is free to run small-capacity vehicles on less popular routes.

    • @asis_thoughts4399
      @asis_thoughts4399 Před 3 lety +4

      Marshrutkas are also bad in the way that they limit access to disabled people, old people, moms with strollers, people with bikes, electric scooters etc., so in less densely populated areas I think a better solution would be a small sized bus instead, like Pazik which was mentioned (but the issue is that Pazik sucks because it isn't low floor, you have to literally climb to get into it, as it was designed for rural areas with high clearance...). So the best solution for low density areas would be a small bus with low floor and wide doors.

    • @petrfedor1851
      @petrfedor1851 Před 3 lety

      @@asis_thoughts4399 Basicly "true" minibus rather then pickup with seats in :D

    • @Chikanuk
      @Chikanuk Před 2 lety +2

      @@RailwaysoftheWorld1 maybe its too late for a comment, but in my city right now things works this way: Public transport for poor or people ones who dont want to spend extra money or ones who need to go in some unpopular
      ural areas. And marshrutkas for people who need to go faster, but dont wanna spend money for taxi. Imho in last years new laws what force marshrutka companies take responsibilities, cheaper online taxi services and new prices in goverment public transport made a serious blow to marshrutkas. They are still very common, but not omnipresent like before.

  • @mayanlogos92
    @mayanlogos92 Před 2 lety

    Id like to see videos abt Riksha s too, or its not on the railway topic? indeed it does not seem to be.... or I mistake?

  • @eugenia9999
    @eugenia9999 Před 3 lety +4

    Них*** не понял, но очень интересно !)))
    Лайк конечно же поставил ))))

    • @RailwaysoftheWorld1
      @RailwaysoftheWorld1  Před 3 lety +1

      Субтитры же есть!

    • @eugenia9999
      @eugenia9999 Před 3 lety +1

      @@RailwaysoftheWorld1 С субтитрами - так это каждый может !!))) Это для слабых 😉😁 PS конечно же нашел =)

    • @user-sv6ls2fe4k
      @user-sv6ls2fe4k Před 3 lety

      А можно оригинал видео?) С какого канала?

    • @RailwaysoftheWorld1
      @RailwaysoftheWorld1  Před 3 lety +3

      Какого видео? На каком моменте?

  • @qjtvaddict
    @qjtvaddict Před 3 lety

    So like NJ Hudson county?

  • @intel386DX
    @intel386DX Před rokem +1

    At least it is not like marshrutka mafia in Africa

  • @StephenOKane
    @StephenOKane Před 3 lety +7

    Well said that man. Capitalism at its worst - no public benefit, only profit for those who don't care.

    • @muzaffar278
      @muzaffar278 Před 3 lety +4

      I agrre, capitalism is ugly

    • @muzaffar278
      @muzaffar278 Před 3 lety +4

      Communism is much better, and incomparable to corrupt capatilism

  • @kwn1276
    @kwn1276 Před 2 lety +1

    marshrutkas isn't really that unique you know. From description in this video, marshrutkas simply is like red-minibus in Hong Kong.

    • @wainber1
      @wainber1 Před rokem

      Route taxis can go by all sorts of different names depending on part of the world. If I want to get somewhere quickly, I likely will use Lyft or Uber if using public transport either is impractical or will simply take too long for me to get to where I want to go so I can arrive at my destination on time.

  • @mayanlogos92
    @mayanlogos92 Před 2 lety

    best price for them or for us?, cs ithink that for us it is cheap best but ffor them expensive is

  • @bluemoondiadochi
    @bluemoondiadochi Před 3 lety

    I expected you to mention the marshrutka MAFIA and their burning of tram depos.

  • @wiedietie
    @wiedietie Před 3 lety +2

    So, bottom line, you might end up in a "Fake Taxi"

  • @asis_thoughts4399
    @asis_thoughts4399 Před 3 lety +8

    UNREGULATED competition can ruin a city

  • @johnwhite7700
    @johnwhite7700 Před 3 lety +1

    Nothing said about marshrutka mafia?

  • @solevoysoleviksolovikkilla9698

    You really interested in Russian public transport and f4pping like Russians on old buses? Man you are amazing

  • @alexgallagher4594
    @alexgallagher4594 Před 3 lety

    This is literally how FedEx and ups can make so.kuch money

  • @brygos7436
    @brygos7436 Před 3 lety +3

    Two sentences into the video and I’ve had my fill of capitalist drivel for the day.

  • @Adamsmithv
    @Adamsmithv Před 3 lety

    are you russian or spanish?

  • @justarussian8714
    @justarussian8714 Před 3 lety

    I'd rather take a bus, than marshrutka, it is cheaper and more spacious inside.

  • @askme5805
    @askme5805 Před 2 lety

    How on earth can be defunct tram system in a city which build trams? It is terrible. It is like defunct tram just next to ex-ČKD Tatra Smíchov building.

  • @theovanstaden5766
    @theovanstaden5766 Před 3 lety +1

    lol same thing here in south africa after 1994, its so funny, mini buses allover and communist anc, lol!

  • @xapver
    @xapver Před 3 lety +4

    Капитализм, счастье, заебись!(ц)
    Capitalism, happiness, fucking-A!(c)
    About the shortage of goods and food in late USSR: that deficite was created artificial to sway people from socialism. There are videos on yt showing warehouses and whole trains full of food that was left to rot so it don't arrive in stores and they remain empty. It was by no means an accident but all calculated by so called reformers.

    • @Nairda00
      @Nairda00 Před rokem

      same thing happened with morsi

  • @MrCelroy
    @MrCelroy Před 2 lety

    Carlos Sainz 8:50

  • @edgarpoinsot5502
    @edgarpoinsot5502 Před 3 lety

    Sadly in its transportation, Rusia is looking alike, more and more, as a third world country than a first world country.

  • @Tuppoo94
    @Tuppoo94 Před 3 lety +1

    Keyword here is "regulation". It's possible to outsource public transport, especially bus services, to private companies. City X pays Y amount of Z currency to a bus company, which in return is obligated to provide the service as a package, including running at unprofitable times or on unprofitable routes. If there's money left at the end of the year, the bus company gets to keep it. This is how many public transport systems are operated these days without significant problems. This is also possible with trams, LUAS in Dublin, Ireland, being a good example.

    • @MrKhabirov
      @MrKhabirov Před 3 lety +1

      If I’m not mistaken, this is also the way it works in the Netherlands. There is one catch, though. Different municipalities can outsource public transport to different private companies. And these companies have different fares and different types of tickets.
      I particularly disliked it in Amsterdam. After buying a prepaid ticket, you need to understand for which transport it will work, and for which it won’t. This was very strange for me coming from Kazan, Russia, where one type of tickets works on every kind of public transport.

    • @Tuppoo94
      @Tuppoo94 Před 3 lety

      @@MrKhabirov You're right. Every company should be required to at least offer the same prices. Transfers should also be covered by this, so you can buy a ticket from operator 1 and continue your trip with operator 2 with the same ticket, if the travel time hasn't been exceeded.

    • @1wun1
      @1wun1 Před 3 lety

      With bribery regulations get ignored

  • @user-is4hg2zn5s
    @user-is4hg2zn5s Před 3 lety +3

    Хобби у русских такое ... смотреть видео о себе на английском языке

    • @mirisch64
      @mirisch64 Před 2 lety +2

      Автор русский, конкретно-из Новосибирска, просто за английским ником специально спрятался.

  • @kietvo2633
    @kietvo2633 Před 2 lety

    this is reason why russia had most car crash in the world

  • @peaveyst7
    @peaveyst7 Před 3 lety +1

    they can do nothing right...

  • @1wun1
    @1wun1 Před 3 lety +4

    In soviet Russia we grow from 2nd to 3rd world

    • @justarussian8714
      @justarussian8714 Před 3 lety

      Your concept doesn't seem to be easy to grasp.

    • @1wun1
      @1wun1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@justarussian8714 it's a joke about post soviet chaos

    • @justarussian8714
      @justarussian8714 Před 3 lety +1

      @@1wun1 I don't know which Russia you live in but if you a fan of exaggerated jokes, that's fine.

    • @1wun1
      @1wun1 Před 3 lety

      @@justarussian8714 of course it's exaggerated, although this transport mode is common in Nigeria and the Philippines

    • @justarussian8714
      @justarussian8714 Před 3 lety

      @@1wun1 you forgot to say Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, and that your Ukranian public transport is the system the whole world should look up to.

  • @fleekrushyt9410
    @fleekrushyt9410 Před 2 lety +1

    In ukraine, mashrutkas are actually dieng down lol

  • @akulalance1766
    @akulalance1766 Před 3 lety +3

    Я не удивлён почему то почти во всех бедах России виновато СССР

    • @azukiminazuki397
      @azukiminazuki397 Před 3 lety +1

      Ну дык Ленин жеж бомбу заложил под что-то там))

    • @lkrnpk
      @lkrnpk Před 2 lety

      а где он сказал что виноватo СССР?

  • @WesternOhioInterurbanHistory

    Fun fact: Some Soviet Trams were based off of the American PCC design.

  • @AleLGB
    @AleLGB Před 3 lety +1

    With the cease of communism in post-soviet countries, people started to get more wealthy in economic terms and could more easily afford private vehicles. With a more cheap and faster alternative to buses and fewer people using public transport it's obvious that public transport will decline drastically. To solve this problem you can always regulate those drivers to pay a tax or permit or something.

  • @jarrodyuki7081
    @jarrodyuki7081 Před 2 lety

    horrible.

  • @Killerspieler0815
    @Killerspieler0815 Před 2 lety +2

    unregulated capitalism is like a nuclear powerr plant without a control room

  • @koiyujo1543
    @koiyujo1543 Před 5 měsíci

    as an american gen z socialist capitalism actually destroyed russia and many people wanna go back to commuism where life was better tbh I can't blame them it's pretty sad to see this

  • @wclifton968gameplaystutorials

    This video shows a perfect example of why local governments should privatise their public transport networks.
    Here in the UK, almost all public transport services are privately owned and operated with only the Glasgow Subway, London Underground, Edinborough Trams, London North Eastern Railway, Reading Buses, Transport for Wales (which was nationalised in 2020) and a handful of other municipal bus operators excluding Northern Ireland being owned by either the local (generally only buses & light rail) or the central government in Westminister, London, England or Holyrood, Scotland.
    When you said that Public Transport should not be put up to market competition, I think your incorrect in that view; here in the UK, we first privatised & deregulated buses outside London in 1989 and then in London in 1994 with the Mainline railways in the same year and what happened is that ridership skyrocketed on all modes of passenger transport and investment that was previously non-existent finally took place.
    What I do think should happen though, at least in Eastern-bloc countries is that vehicle requirements are put in place like they are here in the UK and some of it should be implemented if not done so already:
    vehicle safety checks by 3rd parties every year tied to the license plate of the vehicle, this is done as a requirement of the MOT Test & it's equivalent in the Republic of Ireland
    Driver's Licenses for those wishing to undertake passenger transport seperate from those only using private motor vehicles, these should be much more stringent and people should be re-evaluated every 2 years or so
    Line registration - i.e. You have to register the bus service & it's line number with a regulatory body who will then apply several rules who will then have the power to remove the license and close the line if any rule is broken.
    This was still a good video though.

    • @user-le8wr4yz6q
      @user-le8wr4yz6q Před 3 lety +10

      Three problems with your opinion:
      1) widespread corruption cannot be regulated normally and adding private enterprises (who themselves are usually mafia-owned) only worsens the whole thing
      2) Russia’s BIG public transport has already been privatised (like railroads for example) with governmental corporations acting as a “collective face” of dozens of smaller corporations hated by the populace
      3)Russia is blatantly BIGGER than the UK so applying small European country logic does not work here - bureaucracy is already at it’s limit and connecting information from the 3rd party has lead to more problems in the past.

    • @wclifton968gameplaystutorials
      @wclifton968gameplaystutorials Před 3 lety +1

      @@user-le8wr4yz6q Privatisation has worked well in the USA such as when Conrail was privatised (except for Amtrak passenger trains), Privatisation of buses has worked well in both Australia and New Zealand and it has especially worked well in Japan, privatisation has also worked well in all the nordic countries which are sparsely populated for the most part.
      Size is not the problem, Government is, especially big-government which is what was adopted following the fall of the CCCP/USSR in 1991

    • @user-le8wr4yz6q
      @user-le8wr4yz6q Před 3 lety +7

      @@wclifton968gameplaystutorials privatisation in Russia did not work out properly in the 90s, with the current social and political climate the “correct” privatisation is simply not possible, especially with the attitude people have for private enterprises and the history of slave-like exploitation of workers by the subsidiaries of RZhD and other Russian super corporations. Making the governmental structures smaller will also lead to lots of jobless people.

    • @wclifton968gameplaystutorials
      @wclifton968gameplaystutorials Před 3 lety +2

      @@user-le8wr4yz6q I get your point but, if it were easy to set up a business in Russia like it is in say New Zealand then all those newly unemployed people can find new work on running their own business but currently the Russian Federation is not quite near the top of the Heritage Foundation's ease of doing business index

    • @sodinc
      @sodinc Před 3 lety +3

      @@wclifton968gameplaystutorials It is easy to open a business, but only a small one, like a small shop, but competition in all these small-business sectors is huge. To make a big private transport system you need huge investment - who can spend this amount of money exept government?