Death Knight ICC BiS Lists & Gearing Guide (ALL SPECS)

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  • čas přidán 22. 08. 2024

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  • @patrickmurphy7767
    @patrickmurphy7767 Před 10 měsíci +5

    I am lucky enough that my guild has chosen me to be our first shadowmourne recipient. Will be doing 2h unholy

    • @Fr33mx
      @Fr33mx Před 10 měsíci +1

      Do you guys not have any good furys or rets in the guild?

  • @keyrih
    @keyrih Před 10 měsíci +5

    When do you switch from gemming Strength to Ar.Pen ? I'm simming but strength still looks better for now ?

  • @F_L_U_X
    @F_L_U_X Před 8 měsíci +1

    I was Unholy DK while WotLK was current the first time and got to do the Shadowmourne quest. Even before Shadowmourne and Deathbringers Will, I was top DPS in my guild and like 4th on my server... Good ol times. I remember the Unholy vs Frost and Frost slightly coming out ahead in theory but my Unholy groove was so deep already...I even remember my rotation and doing the whole **spin 180, Gargoyle, spin 180**

  • @H-D-D
    @H-D-D Před 10 měsíci +17

    I say if you havent yet, give blood dps a try. It is literally the last chance you will ever get to try it. Once cata comes it will be purely tank spec. It is fun to play. Big crits with big chad 2 hander.

    • @WoWUndad
      @WoWUndad Před 10 měsíci +2

      Ever? You mean next year next fresh

    • @badwolfxd3593
      @badwolfxd3593 Před 10 měsíci

      💯
      playing blood dps would be the only thing that could bring me back for this phase, haha

  • @ChippiesBR
    @ChippiesBR Před 10 měsíci +5

    Had top prio on garash and DC for the entire phase and got neither. Feels bad

    • @McfcxEz
      @McfcxEz Před 10 měsíci +1

      I was top prio on Garrosh rage all phase and finally got it this last week. Better late than never when people aren’t running 50/50 nearly as often

  • @luzifer5198
    @luzifer5198 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Why still Sigil of Awareness as a Frost DK? Is the Base dmg that much stronger than the stacked 219 strength (3x73) from the new Sigil ? :)

    • @H-D-D
      @H-D-D Před 10 měsíci

      Sim it. But yes.

    • @jagosvujovic2086
      @jagosvujovic2086 Před 10 měsíci +1

      yeah last time i checked sigil of awareness was simming like 300 dps higher or something along those lines over sigil of the hanged man in full icc bis

  • @kelltik2000
    @kelltik2000 Před 10 měsíci +4

    "You don't go Blood until you get Shadowmourne." *laughs in current Blood dps enjoyer*

    • @Chimmy_36
      @Chimmy_36 Před 10 měsíci

      i was laughing too been running blood since the start of phase 3 i would be purple parses across the board but i have to switch to frost on anub because of the self healing the spec does in phase 3 of the fight

    • @donkeyhacks
      @donkeyhacks Před 10 měsíci

      @@Chimmy_36 Tbh you unholy frenzy yourself anyway so you kinda need to use Dstrike to stay alive and only ever 2nd set of runes do u even get to use deathstrike, hell when i had unholy frenzy up at the same time as Penetrating cold and in p3 i actually had to use 2x Death runes on another Dstrike out of fear for my life :D , so its not like your perma full hp, i know there was a lot of talk about frost sub-spec and using obliterate instead for that boss but most people seem to have just not bothered with that myself included and its never been an issue in any of my runs , just "forget" to swap one pull and see how it goes :^)

    • @cococock2418
      @cococock2418 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Do you think that's impressive lmao? Purple parses on a spec that 5 people inthe world play? That's like saying you have purple frost mage parses. Clearly in some shitty dad guild because blood isn't even remotely viable til smourne, and still is mid at that point.@@Chimmy_36

  • @af94248
    @af94248 Před 10 měsíci +2

    The 277 Tier looks amazing on DKs.

  • @TheSilentkiller1971
    @TheSilentkiller1971 Před 10 měsíci +3

    one quick question i have to ask is, if your swapping from UH to frost when should you do it?

  • @peanutbutter1692
    @peanutbutter1692 Před 10 měsíci +1

    PLEASE DO HUNTER NEXT! You're the only one i trust for it lol

  • @MrColeslaw7
    @MrColeslaw7 Před 10 měsíci +1

    when you say replace every piece before you drop 4 piece, do you mean wait for all heroic gear?

  • @scotty1436
    @scotty1436 Před 10 měsíci +2

    As frost dk main when do we start gemming armpen? as we get upgrades from ICC or get full tier then start gemming arm pen?

  • @larssonarobin
    @larssonarobin Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hey Sarthe, love your videos. Why arent unholy getting the expertise cap? Seen guides saying you need the 173 points but none of the bis sets have expertise in them at all.

  • @Nstromzz
    @Nstromzz Před 9 měsíci

    Winding sheet + bloodvenom blade in MH with LKHC25 axe in OH is bis for humans by like 30dps (400s fight sim)

  • @rianeagan2693
    @rianeagan2693 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Wait when do I start gemming for armor pen when I’m frost dk? And I’m currently frost blood. When do I switch to frost unholy??

  • @fede97662
    @fede97662 Před 10 měsíci +1

    i see some play sub unholy and some sub blood, isnt sub unholy better at this point??

  • @robertj6523
    @robertj6523 Před 6 měsíci

    i have a question silly noobish as it may seem do you pop speed pot and gloves before gargoyle or vica versa

  • @robjobb
    @robjobb Před 10 měsíci +3

    The Realistic BIS list is interesting, been working on my BIS list for guild. outside of simming, is there a suggestion on when the offset pieces become more valuable than tier 9.5?

    • @Fliegenkot
      @Fliegenkot Před 10 měsíci

      I tought we stay t9,5 until we have the new hc set.

  • @sNNNNNable
    @sNNNNNable Před 10 měsíci +2

    You wouldn't prio tier based off of set bonuses this phase. Everyone gets their set bonuses from badges. So it'd just be prio'd over stat scaling

    • @soccerawesome1000
      @soccerawesome1000 Před 10 měsíci

      if that is the case then maybe they edge out rogues but not mage or druid

    • @sNNNNNable
      @sNNNNNable Před 10 měsíci

      @@soccerawesome1000 ye mage and feral scale the best out of that tier

  • @williamferguson1817
    @williamferguson1817 Před 10 měsíci

    Is there a link to the prio sheet you brought up in the video showing the dps difference between items in each slot?

  • @1ShadowRaider1
    @1ShadowRaider1 Před 10 měsíci +1

    How is Deathbringer's Will realistic bis for uh dk when he's probably the last class to get it?

    • @donkeyhacks
      @donkeyhacks Před 10 měsíci

      Maybe if your guild knows your gonna be swapping to Frost or with SM blood then they would prio it higher is the thinking, but thats just my shot in the dark guess

  • @sekijou3622
    @sekijou3622 Před 10 měsíci +1

    do not go frost unholy the whole time during the raid or youll lose a bunch of aoe for trash

  • @anthonyg6083
    @anthonyg6083 Před 10 měsíci

    tyvm!

  • @HollowdTV
    @HollowdTV Před 8 měsíci

    my frost spec sims 1.2k higher, 9.5k dps as unholy, 10.7k dps as frost. but i always hear i should be unholy until i get better gear. any explanation for this?

  • @morion_eds
    @morion_eds Před 9 měsíci

    What weapon I can use for 2h UH DK if i still ddont have SM? or its unnecessary

  • @MrGeorgeRohman
    @MrGeorgeRohman Před 10 měsíci

    I am more curious about which fights you want to put Tier 9 set on and which fights to wear your ICC BiS/Tier 10 and how would each scale? I am assuming Deathwhisper, lootship(joke), Saurfang(blood beast?), Dreamwalker, and LK.

    • @alexandreshin88
      @alexandreshin88 Před 8 měsíci

      Tier 10 it's only to single target fights :
      Lord Marrowgar, Deathbringer, Festergut, Rotface, etc...
      Tier 9 for multiple target fights

    • @SupGarry
      @SupGarry Před 7 měsíci

      On lich king you can use t9 its very efficient

  • @sylg1733
    @sylg1733 Před 8 měsíci

    Question for Frost DK, since strength is the most important stat, why armor penetration gems are the bis gems over than strength ones?

    • @Mirage0153
      @Mirage0153 Před 5 měsíci

      I don't know if anyone answered, but frost has a very high proportion of physical damage compared to unholy - obliterate and your melee swings, along with blood caked blade are all physical and amplified by arpen, so it's worth it to try and go for the hard cap (1400 rating) which is why you gem it instead of str. Str will improve all components in a balanced way, but arp only improves the physical components.

    • @sylg1733
      @sylg1733 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Mirage0153 Thank you for the answer!

  • @Narcissae
    @Narcissae Před 10 měsíci

    Horn of winter for a minor glyph ? Isn't that a mistake ?

  • @Fatmeatdyl
    @Fatmeatdyl Před 10 měsíci +1

    Please do a Hunter video as well!

  • @baorc7015
    @baorc7015 Před 9 měsíci

    frost dk bis only has 16 expertise. Is this intended?

  • @danielhenry6777
    @danielhenry6777 Před 10 měsíci

    frost/ unholy is only better for single target?

  • @kevinjohansson9358
    @kevinjohansson9358 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Could you make a guide for the 2 hand rotation? would be really helpfull for when u swap later on

  • @malestrength
    @malestrength Před 10 měsíci

    How is Mithrios simming compared to Last Word for UH DK?

  • @tyrnip7868
    @tyrnip7868 Před 10 měsíci

    Is there anyone who has done the BiS/alternative stuff for Blood Tank? Haven’t been able to find anything recent that shows more than just #1 options

  • @agent00jesus41
    @agent00jesus41 Před 10 měsíci

    All speccs? So where is the tank specc?

  • @MrGeorgeRohman
    @MrGeorgeRohman Před 10 měsíci

    Also, why is this the pre Shadowmourne set simming lower, below tier set? Your video doesnt make any sense.

  • @gvidotristram6456
    @gvidotristram6456 Před 10 měsíci

    Why didnt you mention t9 as part of nearbis set for udk, its super strong

    • @HollowdTV
      @HollowdTV Před 8 měsíci

      he does at the start, he says "you dont take it off until you replace every piece" meaning, these stay on til you can right click equip every bis piece.

  • @nicholasxridiculous
    @nicholasxridiculous Před 10 měsíci

    Thoughts on Bryntroll for 2h unholy until Shadowmourne?

    • @zuku9455
      @zuku9455 Před 10 měsíci

      i think there are better options but blood-caked strike is op with bryntroll, need simulations about this tho

  • @atanasganev8334
    @atanasganev8334 Před 10 měsíci

    Do u think that a SM arp capped Unholy with Disease duration reset glyph(for more SS) can work?

    • @zulphax4016
      @zulphax4016 Před 10 měsíci

      No, they have simmed the most options, arp is not good for scourge strike cause it deals shadow damage already and ignores armor, thats why its such a low upgrade for UH

    • @atanasganev8334
      @atanasganev8334 Před 10 měsíci

      @@zulphax4016 The shadow dmg is % of the physical SS, if u know what i mean.

    • @atanasganev8334
      @atanasganev8334 Před 10 měsíci

      Also the melee deals the highest amount of dmg. Im also curious about 2h frost with SM.

  • @adriandiegelmann2417
    @adriandiegelmann2417 Před 10 měsíci

    Why do frost dks not go for the expertise rating to get the classic 26 rating? I am a bit confused. When I add up the hit ratings, the value seems quite high, why are we gemming full hit in yellow?

    • @wowdkftw80
      @wowdkftw80 Před 9 měsíci

      As dw, hit will always be a favored stat because it indirectly increases sooo much other aspects of the build. Up front yes, more hit rating=more melee hits=more damage. However, more melee hits landing also means more KM procs meaning higher FS crit %. More melee hits also means more necrosis damage and more Blood-caked Blade damage. Hopefully this makes sense.

    • @baorc7015
      @baorc7015 Před 9 měsíci

      @@wowdkftw80 I understand the value of hit for the dw frost meta. Still not sure why only 16 expertise is needed tho

    • @Mirage0153
      @Mirage0153 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@baorc7015Because getting dodged just means your runes will be refunded and you can recast whatever spell got dodged

  • @majorbones251
    @majorbones251 Před 10 měsíci

    Gender-me 😂
    The pronunciation is tricky, but it’s “ZHänˈdärm” like John Darm almost. It’s a French word for man of arms or more modernly a policemen.

  • @devanpy
    @devanpy Před 10 měsíci

    Link to the actual sheet?

  • @ranzo-
    @ranzo- Před 10 měsíci

    Isnt shapened twilight scale a better trinket?

  • @Imicicle
    @Imicicle Před 10 měsíci

    Where blood tank

  • @DerangedFinger
    @DerangedFinger Před 10 měsíci

    I’m having trouble finding a rotation guide for 2h unholy! If you have a recommendation, plz comment here

    • @Lawgunner
      @Lawgunner Před 10 měsíci +1

      Keep your diseases up and spam scourge strike. Use blood strike for desolation and blood runes. Not sure if blood boil should be used or not. Can use blood tap for ghoul frenzy.

    • @DerangedFinger
      @DerangedFinger Před 10 měsíci

      @@Lawgunner thanks mate! I have the general rotation down pat, just hoping to see some more dynamic numbers for “when to blood boil, when to dnd” that kind of thing.

  • @Tred42069
    @Tred42069 Před 10 měsíci

    Imagine stealing your prot pala's Havoc's Call, smh

  • @iandugal5186
    @iandugal5186 Před 10 měsíci

    LOL "gender me curious" hahahahahaha

  • @Wolf1337DK
    @Wolf1337DK Před 10 měsíci +1

    is Whispering Fanged Skull better than Comet's Trail for UH?

    • @afscrew123
      @afscrew123 Před 10 měsíci

      comet is shit fuck that trinket, cringe to use optimally. 100% id use whispering fanged skull. Id even use greatness over comet. and fangskull > greatness

    • @brandonkruse6412
      @brandonkruse6412 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yes WFS is an upgrade

    • @StickyBuns1390
      @StickyBuns1390 Před 10 měsíci

      It's situational. Both are very strong, but if you find yourself in a cleave-heavy/target swap fight, WFS can be stronger than comet.

    • @witza1489
      @witza1489 Před 10 měsíci

      AotD scale very well with haste. So on fights you can use AotD, Comet is better. However for fight where you can't snapshot AotD with Comet's WFS is better. That's at least to my sims.

  • @atomparish
    @atomparish Před 10 měsíci

    Always blows my mind how much better the pros are vs normal guild groups. Down 25m hm lk in togc loot....mind blown

  • @angeljesus4800
    @angeljesus4800 Před 10 měsíci

    Can any dk player tell me in which bosses i can do army? 😂

  • @ColCoal
    @ColCoal Před 10 měsíci +3

    UH:”No! Our time to shine can’t end! We need to be buffed to stay at the top!”
    Blood dps chads:”TO THE MOON!”

    • @StickyBuns1390
      @StickyBuns1390 Před 10 měsíci

      UH is still gonna be damn strong in ICC, what UH DK is crying for buffs? lmao

    • @ColCoal
      @ColCoal Před 10 měsíci

      @@StickyBuns1390 Scroll down to Recksav1's comment.

  • @cdub8594
    @cdub8594 Před 9 měsíci

    Frost/uh sims better but is an actual giant loss in raid. Tested over and over. Stick with frost/blood.

  • @CoolStoryBruh
    @CoolStoryBruh Před 10 měsíci +1

    Imagine a DK getting Shadowmourne... Lmfao

    • @witza1489
      @witza1489 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Not all guilds are tryhards

    • @jeffsanders5444
      @jeffsanders5444 Před 10 měsíci +1

      not all guilds kill the hardest boss@@witza1489

    • @WoWUndad
      @WoWUndad Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@witza1489did your thunderfury go to a rogue lmao did you wonder why both your guilds quit first boss of aq and naxx

    • @witza1489
      @witza1489 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@jeffsanders5444 So if you're giving SM to a DK you're not killing LK HC but to a ret or warrior you for sure are? That's great logic.

    • @donkeyhacks
      @donkeyhacks Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@jeffsanders5444 Not all guilds need a perfectly placed SM to kill the hardest boss either :)

  • @jeffsanders5444
    @jeffsanders5444 Před 10 měsíci +2

    if your guild is giving the first leggo 2 a dk you should leave the guild :D

  • @recksav1
    @recksav1 Před 10 měsíci +7

    To all of my unholy players, please submit a ticket to Blizzard to add haste to the Tier 10 gear. This is unfair.

    • @fg5332
      @fg5332 Před 10 měsíci +5

      Stop crying dk been at the top, especially UH.

    • @brandonkruse6412
      @brandonkruse6412 Před 10 měsíci

      Yeah, let’s just keep changing the expansion more and more to cater to one class kek

    • @brettfisher7535
      @brettfisher7535 Před 10 měsíci

      You trolling right? Just respec dawg who Tf gonna change a game to KEEP you on top?

    • @jagosvujovic2086
      @jagosvujovic2086 Před 10 měsíci +1

      bro u were breaking the game in phase 1 and were still top dps in phase 2 and 3 despite getting nerfed, sit down and let frost out damage u by 500 dps in full icc bis at least lmao

    • @TheTeamOden
      @TheTeamOden Před 10 měsíci

      🤣🤳

  • @rundown132
    @rundown132 Před 10 měsíci +3

    20 min video for something you can google and figure out in 30 secs lmao

    • @tamasnagy9235
      @tamasnagy9235 Před 10 měsíci +14

      What a pointless comment

    • @rundown132
      @rundown132 Před 10 měsíci

      $$$$$@@tamasnagy9235

    • @BREAKocean
      @BREAKocean Před 9 měsíci

      I found some parts of the ARpen insightful as frost dk

  • @lightner6924
    @lightner6924 Před 10 měsíci +1

    His 100th million dk video.