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- Harbor Freight's predator 9000 generator test on powering a full house with all appliances operating. first time generator start up and review.
I've had my predator 4000 watt for about 10 years now. We live in the Carolinas but when power goes out it has no trouble running the essentials. I do run STABIL in my gas year round, also start it once a month and let it run and power something for about 15-20 minutes. Change the oil once a year, blow the air filter out and brush the spark plug with some gum out & a old tooth brush starts first pull every time. I also store in in my garage, great product. FLY NAVY!!!
I'm in South Carolina and have a Champion 5500 Running Watt Generator. Bought in 2018 just before hurricane Florence. Ran for 36 hours straight, although I to refuel it 2 or 3 times.
It also ran during Tropical Storm Idalia for about 6 hours, and during a scheduled power outage 2 years ago to change the pole transformer.
20 minutes once a month on the first according to the maintenance schedule.It's due for an oil change this Summer. GO AIR FORCE!
I've read some pretty good reviews about Champion's. Like all portable generators they are worth their weight in gold when the power goes out. Longest non stop run on mine has been 22 hours. BTW my father was Air Force Korea. FLY NAVY!!!@@dougadams9419
I just bought this generator for a backup for my all-electric home. Was wondering how to make it power the whole house. I had no idea it would be so simple. Thanks for posting!
Be care with your load if you have all electric I’m not sure this will handle resistive heat. You’ll need to do a load calculation be sure to contact an electrician to help out
I've got one of their older Chicago Electric models. I've had it 15 years. Still runs great. Run them 4 times a year on a light load and you should never have any issues.
⚠️Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips whenever you use your portable generator. This is a very important announcement for everyone. This is just a reminder for everyone’s safety. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully
Generator safety tips:
1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Children often get curious about anything so we should keep an eye on them to also make sure they’re not wandering towards the generator.
2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules.
4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
czcams.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/video.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators. All generator safety rules should be followed carefully.
Hope this helps.
I have a predator 9000 and I love it, great quality and very stable. I've played the gamble and run sensitive electronics (PC, playstation, TV, router etc) and got clean power with no problem. Keep up the maintenance and run it regularly it will work great 👍
We bought one of these for my in laws about 3 years ago. It runs a 1500 square foot home that has central heat and air with zero problems. It has literally started the first pull every time. We do run it completely out of fuel after each use.
I just bought one with a 10% off coupon and got it for 760 out the door..couldn't beat it
There is a 20% off coupon now. You could probably take the receipt back to the store and get a partial refund.
Very helpful video.
Viewers might benefit from being sure to never start the generator, and never shut it down, with any load on it.
I know it is in the instructions, but easy to forget.
Not doing so can lessen the strength of and the form (sinusoidal) of the AC electrical output a little more each time it happens.
Thanks for the video, I bought one of these today , to use as back up for my house.
My old ryobi the hertz were all over the place, and my electrician warned me not to use it to power the house during an outage.
Why?
I have the 9000 too, for 5 6 years now, whole house i installed myself, im thinking of hooking up propane or natural gas, in case gasoline becomes a problem, that way my home is covered with plan A,B, and C, was just thinking outloud, dont forget to add the ground wire to the srcew showing on panal, i read the info and part of the ground white wire nuetral goes to the frame ,many grounds needed i guess, nice machine and good video. Thanks.
When using a portable gas powered generator to power your home, make sure the neutral on the generator is floating. Which just means the neutral and ground on the generator are not connected. It’s also good practice to drive a proper ground rod into the ground and connect a wire from it to the external ground terminal on the generator. When using a generator as a stand alone unit like for tools or lights with them just plugged straight into the generator, the neutral and ground on the generator should be bonded (connected) to each other.
You just spoke in a language I do not understand 😒 I'm a basic diy er so I'm interested I'm what exactly all this means you're trying to explain.
Here is a video to show how to replace the fuel line on these generators. czcams.com/video/-8DvrBtSUCE/video.html I like using tubing actually make for gasoline contact and they should be braided hoses and is part of the reason they are so brittle and easy to break and leak over time. I also had to replace the carburetor so just make sure not to let gas sit in the carb or it will gum up. How to trouble shoot a Predator Generator: czcams.com/video/p3ldRNiRJ0A/video.html
I bought a new generator and wanted to load test it on a Friday evening in November here in NH. It had snowed and it was cold outside. My neighbors called the police saying it was disturbing their sleep. The cop came to my door and asked if I was using it for heating purposes. "Why yes young man, as you can see I have two space heaters hooked up to it." He said there is an exemption for the elderly to use generators in the city. Hardy har har. My neighbors had to live with it until I shuffled off to south Florida for the winter.
typical of an American... Hardy har har
@@elbinx760 No, not the average American. But there are far too many such whiners here in the US. I wish everyone had the sense to have a face-to-face conversation to resolve problems.
@elbinx760 you mean we have freedom? Yes very typical 🤔
My manual said less than 9000.
And running watts must be less than 7,250 start up watts should be 5,400. The largest additional start-up watts 1,200 check out your manual page 14
Till them move back to the gay state Massachusetts asshole state
Same generator. Started on first pull as well 👍🏻👍🏻
I have the previous version (Predator 8750) and it's been rock solid. The run time is around 11-hours. The only time mine has ever loaded up is when my pool pump timer unexpectedly kicked on. If memory serves, they did suggest running a couple of gallons of fuel through it to break the engine in before putting it to work. My only minor issue is the fuel lines were of poor quality and they started to dry up and crack (easy fix).
I have the same one I live in Massachusetts too. It works like a champ. I love our interlock feature which allows us to pick and choose what circuits u want to use. It works like a BOSS!
Thanks. I appreciated your review. I'm setting up my home for generator power during hurricane season.
Learning from the military its always nice to have back for the back up and to give the suggestion of buying two generators is almost as important as having just one. When you have two generators this will give you greater flexibility to allow you to shut one down and insert the other while performing maintenance, refueling, and just giving each generator a break. It will also give you the power to just run one, if the other is broke down and needs some repairs. And if you want to get really good results and flexibility, then you would have a generator that will provide more watts than needed. Less strain on the generator and more starting power.
I just got home from HarborFreight in Portsmouth where I picked this up, yes, based on the phenomenal reviews it has. I have an older McCulloch that has done fine but, like you, I wanted more assurance of it being able to handle life as close to normal as possible during power outages. I did get the battery because I want my wife to be able to get this going if I’m not home and the pull start proved to be a bit more than I felt comfortable subjecting her to. So, I’ll built a shelter for this, more of making it easier on my wife. Now, I had a fail once on the 5600 I have now...because it obviously gets used most often during rain or snow events and after the event is over, the machine gets stowed away again. Because it gets wet most often during use, the recoil spring had rusted solid! I took it apart and attempted to clean it and the spring snapped into pieces! And yes, that renders it totally inoperable! I did find a knock off recoil and replaced it but, if it had been during a power outage, I’d have been without power. So, since you’re set up with a pull only right now, I’d recommend throughly drying the recoil spring, oil it lightly and, keep some spare recoil rope in hand as it will also suffer from exposure. Thanks for the review...I’m 100% confident now that this will without a doubt, be precisely what I’d hoped for!! New subscriber in NH.
That’s where I bought mine! Fellow Live Free or Die buddy. Thanks for the comment. I am looking to design and build a mobile cover in case I need to be mobile, however the most practical use is stationary in a shelter. Take care and thanks for watching.
I’m going back tomorrow and get the wheel kit. I went back and forth about getting it or not. I was going to scavenge the wheels off the macullough generator but now, seeing this thing...I can’t do it!!🤣
I’m with ya on a shelter for it. Those things can get pretty ornate!! But, it does have to be vented and cooled and I’d like to make it quieter, but let’s face it...it the grid goes down, no ambient noise...any noise will carry for miles and miles!! Which means I’m not going to invest stupid money to make it noise free. I’m in Milton but work in Portsmouth. I grew up in Durham and Newmarket. My family ancestry, my moms father, goes back to roughly 1637 as best we can figure. I’ll check out your other videos. Praying your channel does well...it’s a lot of work!!
Get the big wheel kit 10” not the 8” I was forced to get the latter due to availability and regret it.
@@livefreeandtoolon I should’ve read this first because GUESS what I got?!?! Yes, the 8 inch!!🤣 I guess if there’s any consolation, I really got the wheel kit to get it into the shelter....I may regret it too but....😁
Now I’ve got to go back and get the whip cord because the plug configuration is totally different from the one I have for the Mac generator!! Geez!!
We have a GenTent to protect ours from bad weather. It works really well in protecting the generator from rain and snow.
Just a thought..be sure to check the output on each breaker turned on when running a large load. Just because it’s running a pump or turning on a light doesn’t mean it’s putting out the full 120/240. Not having full voltage will burn up pumps, appliances, tools, etc..
Just learned this the hard way…
How do you check?
@@spikey9azn6 you’ll want to use a meter. For example say it’s a microwave you’re wanting to use…once your generator is running and supplying power to your panel, turn the breaker on and start the microwave. Then take your meter and put one lead on the neutral bar and the other lead on the load side of the breaker (where the wire is connected to the breaker) with the appliance running you will want to see 120v on the meter. This shows the amount of power being supplied. (A lot of things only require 115v minimum and 125v max, 120v is just common language.) For a 240v or double pole breaker you will want to repeat this on both wires connected to the breaker, one at a time. Each load wire should say 120v. 120+120 on each wire gives you the 240v total. If you get the correct voltage you are looking for you can start to turn on more breakers and put a load on them (for example leave the microwave running and turn on a breaker that controls some lights and plugs) and repeat the process one breaker at a time. Once your meter reads less than 115-120 or 230-240 you know you’ve found your limit. You can do this and play with what you can or can’t have on at the same time. You might have to turn lights off to run the microwave or make sure everything is turned off to run the dryer etc. Keep in mind you don’t have to turn the breaker off to stop the load. Just turn off the microwave, turn off the lights, unplug the space heater etc. to stop the load. It’s a good process to go through ahead of time and it’s a good idea to make notes for yourself so that when the power goes out and it’s time for the generator it’s a stress free process to fire it up and know what you can and can’t do.
@@spikey9azn6 I’m not the best at explaining things through text but I’m sure there’s some videos that will walk you through the process better than I can. Also just a disclaimer, working in a hot panel is dangerous. My advice is to call an electrician and pay them for an hour of their time to help you get set up and prepared. Edit..please always make sure the first thing you do is turn off the main breaker in your panel. If you don’t you will send power back through the lines. This is very dangerous to people working on the power lines.
Thanks I just got a predator generator
They are good Generators just remember its a Metal Gas tank, Keep it empty when your not using it. also keep your eye on the oi;l. They tend to use oil some more then others.
empty tanks will rust
@@rickgagne8564keep tank full with fuel stabilizer, mine sleeps outside with a gen cover and roofing shingles under a roof canopy. Always ready. Oil ,n filter checked, your good to go.
From the 413 here. I just bought one of these yesterday for the storm. They went up in price
⚠️Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips whenever you use your portable generator. This is a very important announcement for everyone. This is just a reminder for everyone’s safety. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully
Generator safety tips:
1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Children often get curious about anything so we should keep an eye on them to also make sure they’re not wandering towards the generator.
2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 🚭
4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
czcams.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/video.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators. All generator safety rules should be followed carefully.
Hope this helps.
Still a great price though. (Even without the wheel kit and oil) We bought ours back in Aug. 2020 for $599 with coupon.
It won't do all that.
Might has trouble running my hot water tank and frig
And AC x 2 tv and fans. So glad to got what you got.
U should show a video on how you installed the switch and the plug that ties to the house
It’s called a suicide switch, 2 male plugs
⚠️Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips whenever you use your portable generator. This is a very important announcement for everyone. This is just a reminder for everyone’s safety. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully
Generator safety tips:
1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Children often get curious about anything so we should keep an eye on them to also make sure they’re not wandering towards the generator.
2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 🚭
4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
czcams.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/video.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators. All generator safety rules should be followed carefully.
Hope this helps.
Probably should call an electrician for that one man. Insurance won't cover it if your DIY electrician work burns your house down
Its not 700 anymore. I just bought one because of an emergency so no sales, it was 1200. Well worth it. It saved my aquariums!! In the summer ill probably have a transfer bix put in.
I ran a extension cord from the out side to the inside of the house running the cord around up the ceiling and to each room with a surge protect with a switch to turn off and on power to that room. The kitchen and central air and heat where the most electric is used at
How do you run a 100 amp panel (I assume your panel is 100 amp...200 amp even worse) off a 30 amp generator feed? Pretty sure you'll burn out the windings on that generator quickly.
Yes, the generator didn't stall and the lights stayed on but the important question that you didn't answer is what was the actual voltage at your heaviest loads like the pump, hot water ect? if that generator lugs down and stays that way with the governor at full throttle but the engine running below optimum speed, not only will the low voltage condition possibly damage sensitive electronics but the LOW FREQUENCY condition damage pump, well pump and refrigerator motors. AC induction motors are extremely dependent of the 60 Hz frequency of the power. Most of our home appliances run on 120 VAC. Some things like electric stoves, hot water heaters and central air units run on 240 VAC but ALL run at 60 Hz or what used to be called 60 cycles. This means that the power alternates between 60 volts positive and 60 volts negative, 60 times a second or 120 volts positive and negative, 60 times a second. Think of tying a rope to a tree and swinging it up and down 60 times a second. When the rope crests high, this equates to 60 ot 120 volts positive and when it crests low, 60 or 120 volts negative. In the case of your house, if the wife is taking a long hot shower, she's running the well pump, water heater and recirculating pumps all at once. Probably half of your generator's running capacity right there. Now the kids are running the microwave. That 1100 watt microwave? 1800 watts. You don't get something for nothing. The other kids are playing video games on the big screen, 600 watts easy. with that generator under maximum or near maximum load, the governor can only open the throttle plate all the way to try to bring up the engine speed and no more. If that engine stays lugged down for an extended period of time, the voltage and frequency of your power, the 120 volts at 60 cycles, will fall below this limit. If it drops to114 volts at 58 cycles or if the generator develops a minor vacuum leak and speeds up to output 123 volts at 62 cycles, you'd never notice the difference and your equipment won't suffer but if you get down under 115 volts and 55 cycles, things will eventually overheat and possibly be damaged. Purely resistive loads like electric heating units, stoves, filament light bulbs, space heaters, hot water tanks without electronic controls will be fine albeit operating at reduced efficiency. It's mainly motors and sensitive electronics that you have to worry about. A good example of problems is in Europe and Australia, they run 240 VAC like we run 120 VAC but at 50 CYCLES. if someone emigrates from Europe and brings filament type light bulbs and a space heater with them, they could have their house wired to accommodate these with no problem. If they also brought a refrigerator and had it wired up, It would be destroyed in days or weeks. Resistive loads can be run on any frequency from DC to 400 cycles on a world war two bomber. the European motor coils are wound to operate at 50 cycles. While our 240 VAC is just right, our 60 cycle frequency is not and will destroy it in short order. Just like if you moved to Britain and took your well pump with you. Their 240 VAC is fine but at 50 cycles, your well pump will overheat and eventually burn out because it's windings aren't wound for that frequency.
My advice is to go to Walmart's electrical section and pick up a cheap digital multimeter and learn how to use it to keep an eye on your load voltages under different conditions with your generator. Honestly, I wouldn't go to Harbor Freight. I have one of their meters and it isn't very accurate. I hope this helps you and anyone else who reads this
I love electricity. It was my favorite part of physics but i could never master it.
⚠️Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips whenever you use your portable generator. This is a very important announcement for everyone. This is just a reminder for everyone’s safety. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully
Generator safety tips:
1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Children often get curious about anything so we should keep an eye on them to also make sure they’re not wandering towards the generator.
2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 🚭
4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
czcams.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/video.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators. All generator safety rules should be followed carefully.
Hope this helps.
You bring up some very good points. I can tell you from personal experience, if you use a manual transfer switch to manage the loads, you will not max out the generator. We have the same generator that I installed a Tri-fuel kit, so NG is our primary fuel. We have a 10 and 6 circuit manual transfer switch with watts meters.
I've tested the volts/frequency at 5800 watts on gasoline. The volts range from 119 thru 124 and frequency 59.76 thru 60.44 hertz. (The distance of the outlets, from the power source, effects the volts) On NG at 5200 watts, the volts range from 119.8 thru 122.5 and the frequency 61.64 to 62.49.
@@Pk3_Garage I believe what you say but I can't imagine for the life of me why your frequency readings go up on NG. These TroyBilt generators, at least mine which is 9 years old, are frequency regulated strictly by governed engine speed. One or two Hz either way isn't important but I'm still confused. Speaking for mine, if the engine is lugged down below the maximum governor limit, the frequency goes down as well. I was told by a small engine mechanic with decades of experience that when you run a gas engine on LPG or NG, you lose 20% of it's rated output due to horsepower loss from less dense fuel, (fewer BTU's per equivalent unit). I understand why your power capacity dropped but am baffled as to the upswing in your frequency unless yours is a newer model with electronic frequency regulation.
On a different note. I keep mine in my detached garage which explains why it still looks new. It has a nested spot by the side walk-in door. I also keep a box fan next to it and plugged into it as the small alcove that it is in does not provide for much fresh air if it is running with the door shut during active precipitation not wanting rain or snow to blow in on the hot engine. The box fan provides ventilation otherwise it tends to choke itself out on it's own exhaust. I also open the big garage door a few inches to provide an exit for the exhaust. My garage is a sheet metal building so it isn't sealed like wood or block. The wind just doesn't blow through it well.
My father in law passed recently and the garage is full of his stuff but if my generator starter battery goes dead, I can pop the hood of my car and jump off the generator through the side door. This happened just once when it was 6 years old. I called Lowes and they wanted $99.00 and 10 days to get another battery.
TIP: Get on Amazon and search 22 amp hour, 12 volt gel cell batteries. The original
battery is an 18 amp hour but I got a 22 amp hour Mighty Max battery made for portable jump starter packs for $44.00 INCLUDING FREE NON PRIME DELIVERY on an 8 pound battery. My father taught me to always over buy when buying a car battery. Normal cranking stresses a larger capacity battery less and when it does begin to wear out, it's a slower process giving you time to replace it before it dies completely. Plus, if in the winter it takes a little longer for it to start, you have the extra capacity to crank a few seconds longer without over taxing the battery. I don't know if it's still free delivery as this was 3 years ago but my new battery hasn't left me in the dust yet, it is the same physical size and slides into the same slot and it still charges with the original wall wart charger that came with the unit. Just be aware when ordering that you get the
same flat tab terminals as the original and the battery will slide in like new. Good luck.
We have the Predator 9000/7250 watts generator too.
I should have stated in my comment that I made a small adjustment, to the idle screw, when switching to NG. My non-load readings are: Gasoline volts 122.1 at 64.54 thru 65.05 hertz; NG volts 122.0 at 64.76 thru 65.11 hertz.
I have the same generator it ran my house very well except for the trane heat unit. I have an 18 SEER and the a/c company who installed it said this furnace will not operate on generator power, and it would not run on the generator at all...
I will ask no to the AC guys for the answer, you will be better asking an electrician to check the electrical requirements to run it, as start up amps and running amps, then figure if your generator have enough, don't give up yet
⚠️Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips whenever you use your portable generator. This is a very important announcement for everyone. This is just a reminder for everyone’s safety. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully
Generator safety tips:
1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Children often get curious about anything so we should keep an eye on them to also make sure they’re not wandering towards the generator.
2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 🚭
4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
czcams.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/video.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators. All generator safety rules should be followed carefully.
Hope this helps.
Put a soft start on your ac it will reduce your serge watts by 70 percent
Hello, Thank you for this great video 👍, if you don't mind i would have few questions about the predator 9000 (that's our first generator)
we have a son with health issues that requires a generator in case of hurricane to power his equipment and the appartement for AC etc ( we are in Florida ), we live in on the first floor, the connection to the board has already been done by an electrician, we just have to attach it to a three if necessary.
On the generator it says to run every 3 months for 15/20 min, is it mandatory? We live in a community and if not really necessary, that would avoid too much noise for the neighbors...?
Is it rain proof or does it needs additional special cover when outside?
On the generator it's written to use appropriate line conditioner for TV, phones etc...we have the extension to connect the generator to the plug specially installed, is it this ?or do we need anything additional?
Is connection to ground mandatory ?
Thank you in advance for your time
Great question s too badd he didn't bother to answer
Doesn’t this have 2 x 30A outs? How do you get the full output into your house panel?
Need to get a Battrey
Mine just lost all compression after 11 months. Used it 6hrs a day with no large wattage draws, kept oil changed...there chondas so buy at your own risk, or luck of the draw... Never had any power problems. Pisses me off, next one will have an oil pump with a filter.
Good job Leomonster mass.👍😎👍winter sucks just got the 9000👍
Great video. I had my reliant transfer switch connected for my 5500 watt generator. It’s the best way to go. However, my right leg on my transfer switch has 10 more amps Tran the left. That really shouldn’t matter, correct?
If you have an all electric home, you'll need more that that. My furnace is 15 kW. So I would need at LEAST a 20 to 25 kW generator to run the entire house.
Thks gonna buy one
How about a sound deadening box? Can u do a vid on lowering the db w ssome sorrt if sound box?
How much does it cost for the whip, to be able to connect to the house? If you have solar panels will it mess up the generator?
the whip was typical 30' from HD and it cost 80$ and if you have solar it will need to be isolated so it doesnt have two different supplies, your solar controller should be tied in to prevent this the same as your typical power. But you will need to check with a professional
HF has a really good 30 amp 25' extension cord for $50. Might be able to get it cheaper with a coupon.
Thanks for sharing 👍!!
Awesome video
Thanks , well explained and good safety tips
You didn't do the break-in as instructed by the owner's manual?
03:14 THAT is the norm for this generator...starts on the first pull.
Replace the spark plug with NGK.
When the plug is out, drop in a teaspoon of engine oil then pull the rope slowly 10x.
Use straight 30w dino oil for the break-in.
Then use whatever weight non-dino oil that the owner's manual says.
Always run this genny with some electrical load.
Only run non-ethynol gas.
Get the eBay $40 carburetor assembly so you can run gas or propane.
Check the voltage and frequency of electrical output and adjust the RPMs as needed.
I'm glad that you spent time on the panel interlock. There are soooo many people who skip that part. Be sure to check with your local building inspection department as related to the electrical grounding requirements. There is no standard.
You may want to invest in an hour meter and a wattage meter for both legs of your 220V. That way you can be sure your load is reasonably balanced and your maintenance is on schedule.
Glad you are happy.
03:02 What is that white stuff on the ground?
awesome comment, and that white stuff is cold and typically forms around 32 degrees F.
I took a look on eBay but could not find a carburetor kit around that price. Do you have a model number or name? Thanks
@@jeremiah.k.mathis
Copy/paste into eBay search bar:
190F dual fuel carburetor manualchoke TONCO safer generator GX420 Propane/LPG/NG
Why did you start the generator without it being grounded?
Running any generator constantly, big enough to run a well pump 10 minutes a day is sure expensive power. Transfer switch allows me to turn off a couple circuits long enough to run my well and use half the size generator as this guzzler. $40 for 8 hours. Mine ran great but I sold it after using it 13 days.
Why run it constantly? Also a well pump's starting load is 2-3 times greater than its running load.
@@percyfaith11 for things like lights and TV it has to be running. I have to turn off two freezers to run the well or have a 7000 watt generator.
@@stevesmith9221 Depending on the HP of the well pump a 5-6Kw starting watt capable generator may be needed.
Lights and TV? Make a camping adventure out of it. Get some LED camping lights. The house lights aren't really needed much. Kindles and gasp, actual paper books make a great break from the idiot box.
Everybody has different priorities and I can write only for myself but I'd rather cut way back on the electrical needs and spare the generator and the fuel for it.
@@percyfaith11 we lose power too often for that. My well has two pumps as there is a 3000g storage tank. I believe they are both 3/4 hp. I broke into it's power line and made it an outlet. So I can unplug it and plug into generator. I only did that once using 3000 watt generator. Worked fine. Now I can control it from in the house breaker box.
So through the 30 amp plug is it running all 7250 watts? Or when in 240 would it be 60 amps or still 30 amps divided
It’s a 30amp plug, double pole from the gen. So yes it can run full capacity or at least that’s what the data show. It runs the house well but I do not have resistive heat.
7250watts/240v=30amps.
How do sensitive electronics do with this generator like smart TV, Smart refrigerator, laptops etc. ?
I have had no issues, the power seems to be clean and stable
@@livefreeandtoolon ok was wondering if my Harman pellet stove would be safe don’t want to be in worst case no power no back up heat
We have this same generator and it works just fine. We have over 70 hrs. runtime of testing/maintenance. I'm working on a comparison volts/frequency video doing load testing on utility, gasoline and natural gas. This generator, worked great.
If you are able to run your whole house through a 30 amp double pole breaker, you really shouldn't be overly concerned about only having a 150 amp service.
Yeup I have 100amp service with 30amp double pull breaker and everything works fine. Grant it I’m not running everything and not doing laundry or drying during an outage so I’m good!
What is the max amps it can handle, that is also important info when lookin at buying a generator, I had the smaller one and I couldn't exceed 58 amps, it was a great generator exceeded my expatations. But no one will tell how many amps it can handle
9000 watts ÷ 240 volts = 37.5 amps
it only runs at 7250kw and runs at 9000kw when maxed out one down fall is the generator only has 15 amp breakers on it and will shut down on you the more you load it down the less gas you have
if mama hast to start that thing u better have that battery installed
My question is the cord is a 30 amp cord but fed probably up to 45 amps. How does that work?
It's protected by the 30amp breaker on the generator. But he has a 50amp breaker in the panel for the generator, that's wrong and should be changed out.
@@mark31383 that’s what I am saying.. I’ve done electric most of my life.
@@mark31383 this leaves room for a bigger unit
The generator is limited to 30 so it will not achieve the limit of the breaker. I am planning to get a larger gen in the future once I install AC it shouldn’t be an issue.
Why @@mark31383 ?... The onboard circuit breaker is there mainly to protect the generator, not the house. The back-feed is basically replacing his main service, which in any house built in the last 50 years will be a minimum 100 amps, so no danger there. The beauty of a back-feed through the panel is that each circuit is still protected by it own circuit breaker. In a setup like this the 50 amp circuit breaker is just a switch allowing the bus bar to be energized by the generator instead of the utility line.
IS IT BAD TO USE A GENERATOR BIGGER THAN YOU NEED ?
You can only use what your breakers allow, just make sure you use the right voltage
Can I use it to run the A/C unit?
With a soft start on the ac it will
Pretty loud. Whats the db at full load?
Why a grantor make a air like explote ?
The price isn't bad I just wish it was dual fuel.
1000% agree
@@livefreeandtoolon I saw on a other channel there's a conversion kit for it, might look into that.
Did you have to ground the generator when using it? I live in the mountains and powered been in and out so I bought this exact one but every video I’ve seen with this generator in use no one grounds it.
The instructions for this generator clearly stated it should be grounded.
6 kids? Jesus, you’re a busy guy ain’t you?
What is the max amps it can handle, the one you are reviewing? Not the one I stated that I owned.
7200watts divided by 120volts equals 60amps. Or 30amps on each leg of 220volt.
@@mikek8229 thanks for the reply, these Jenny's are pretty good and reliable, was hoping that there be a few more amps, but that info is really helpful, especially when they wouldn't put it on the box like they used too.
was just quoted 1500 to hook up just the connecton
What amp inlet box would I need for this generator?
I bought a 30 amp from Lowes
30 amp
Do you think it could run your ac to
Depends on the type and amps you would need to check the rating of the ac and compare to the gen
I have the Predator 8750. Bought new 10 years ago. Still running strong using Motor Snorkel tri-fuel adapter. I noticed you turned the generator off while it was under a load. You will ruin it! Unplug everything first!
what can I do when predator 8750 / 7000 pull three times before kick back on you before starting
Use the electric start? Sometimes I use starting fluid ("cheater spray", I like to call it). I don't have the patience to pull and pull and pull like when I was a fit teenager. But really, if an engine is hard to start, I do have the patience to remove the carb and clean it up very well -- that takes care of the real problem. You could also have a bit of water in the carb bowl. Gasoline with ethanol can slowly absorb moisture from the air, and then the water stays with the ethanol and sinks to the bottom of the gas, down to the bottom of the carb bowl. There is a simple screw there for draining the bowl.
use the battery start.
What size is the fuel tank? Harbor Freight's website only states "New larger tank".
6 gallons
6 gallons
Generator safety czcams.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/video.html keep in mind that carbon monoxide fumes are not safe and generators can be dangerous if not used carefully. Hope you all stay safe. Thank you
my 9 thousand is 8 gal.
I would love to have one but i need it to kick on qhen i am not home.😐 I dont want all my food to spoil.
Get ready to drop 10k or more
I hooked it up to my panel box. When the electric came on? It over loaded my generator. So the extension cords is what i used around in my house around the ceiling walls >> This hides the extension cords and keep them off the floors. >> ONE MORE VERY IMPORTANT THING ABOUT A PORTABLE GENERATOR! THEY MUST BE EARTH GROUNDED or it will magnetize the generator and ruin it. They got a place that is marked > EARTH GROUND. That where you run your copper line down into the ground about 1 to 2 foot deep. I just made me a copper rod, by twisting the copper lines to gather, then hook it to the rod > You can get these rod clamps cheap
How does this work if you have solar??
Your question is much too broad to answer. It raises other questions like, "does the home connect to grid + solar + generator?", "is the home only using solar now?" , "is the intention to use solar AND generator at the same time, or either solar OR generator at any given time, but never both at once?" Many other questions could follow.
What size breaker did you use for the secondary generator power supply?
You should use the same as your generator supply
Where do you get that cable for the 220?
Home depot
Harbor freight
@@user-th8sz1wu3o I ended up finding em at Home Depot but harbor freight has em too
I had one of those exact ones and someone came into my back yard and stole it right out of my cargo trailer.
Anyone know the decibel level on this?
Can I use this for my tesla?
You need to ask Tesla
How many gallons is the tank
8 gal.
New key start, talk to me right out of it
Predator 13000 watt generator OVER KILL but i got one
Will 30Amp run the entire house? This unit has one 30Amp and one 20Amp. An entire house typically has 200amp service. This surely can not run an entire house can it?
You need to be realistic about a whole home during an outage, you will only operate what is needed. ie fridge, heat, lights etc. not range, oven other non necessary items.
plus your house doesnt pull 100-200a all of the time in fact most homes do not pull 100a at any given time typically 30-50a is normal at one time pending the timing of the day
It really depends on your energy usage. So for example, we use around 5K watts an hrs. in the summer, using our central air. We use around 2.5K watts an hrs. in the winter. So yes, it can for our house. But you do have to be smart about your usage of big loads though. Don't run to many big load items at once.
It's for emergency power. You don't have to run your hair dryer at the same time as your cappuccino machine.
Be careful with your inductive loads starting up, that sine wave probably gets pretty fucking ugly. Don’t kill ur well pump
This generator sounds to loud if heard it on other videos its like a harley davidson. They didn't even try to dampen the sound a little bit. Id even spend another 100 just to not hear it so much. Also I think its bad that you put it in your garage but dont explain about carbon monoxide poisoning. In Texas recently like 20 people died from going into their vehicles to try and stay warm in their garages. Their are a lot of people especially women and younger men who do not know about that.
Yes. I agree with your advice. Generators are outdoor use only. I know a lot about generator safety: there is something that everyone really needs to know about using generators. Generators can be dangerous if not used carefully. That’s why everyone should be careful. Remember not to run your generator indoors because of carbon monoxide. And also, we should also keep our children safe when we’re using portable generators so children won’t get electrocuted or burned by the generator and poisoned by carbon monoxide. Generators can be hot which can burn children or electrocuted them. I know all about the safety and hazards of using generators. Generators should not be operated in wet conditions. Don’t try to plug a generator cord into a wall outlet which can cause fire hazards. Only plug a generator cord into a transfer switch. Turn on your generator before Plugging in appliances. Keep your generator 20 feet away from your house. Install a carbon monoxide detector. This is for everyone’s safety. Hope you stay safe as well. Thank you
@@nobodynever7884 yes, that’s why generator safety is required and warnings should not be ignored for safety
@@nobodynever7884 hahhahhaaa!!!! I agree! A lot of pansy asses out there
My boy got a 6 piece lol
I had one and it's said on the box will run your freezer and refrigerator plus fans lights ECT . Problem I had it ran all but the refrigerator I took it back to harbor freight for a refund the next day cause it didn't do what it said it would they charged me a 120.00 restocking fee I said on something that's false advertisement I won't never buy another one from them
800 plus tax plus the wheels kits . Luckily the girl that worked there gave me a 20% off
Get the inside track membership. You are saving money even though you paying 20$ for the membership.
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According to the Maintenance Schedule, each year or 300 hours of operation, we are supposed to check/adjust the Valve Clearance. What the stink is that all about. I’m supposed be a Mechanical no it all. What am I supposed to do? Pull the engine and field strip it. Nuts. I’m sorry I bought this finicky trash.
You literally take a feeler gauge and adjust the valve clearance. You have to do this with any generator no matter what engine powers it.
Looks like a really tiny house...hardly anything in that panel. Also that looked like a gas boiler not electric so it won't use any power at all hardly...our water heater is 4800 watts, downstairs furnace is 15kW, upstairs 10kW...and I haven't got to the kitchen or laundry stuff yet.
Even my parents house a 17kW standby generator can't run everything at once and requires load-shed on the larger appliances like 2nd stage furnace/heat pump defrost, hot water heater, stove, clothes dryer, etc.
Home furnace and water heater that are fueled directly using gas/oil/wood are much more efficent then heating electricly from gasoline.
This type of mobile generator shuldn't be used with load that excedes ~70% of max nominal power for long period of time, so forget about high demand aplianaces... As well fridges, HVAC and other compressor based units due to requirement of smooth sinus from AC, works very uneficently on generators. (not mentioning the current spikes that are require when starting - high potential of failure, if generator is overloaded already)
Did you even watch the video? He said it was a gas boiler. He also said it was 150 amp service and his panel is approximately 3/4 full so I don't get what you're saying.
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